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I was SHOCKED to discover that Soviet citizens weren't allowed to generate portals for interstellar travel. It typically required three months of paperwork before you could build one. Unfortunately, no one could figure out a way to get back, and the practice was discontinued.
I was watching that new show about the Russian revolution with Ewan McGregor; and I realized that I couldn't think of a single American movie or show, or any media for that matter, that didn't tell the Russian story from the perspective of some royal, or wealthy, or otherwise bourgeois-ish character. I wonder if this is because centering the story around an average person would do too much to highlight the social gains resulting from socialism. It would be interesting to see a video that contrasted the narrative point of view between Soviet produced and American produced movies and such.
Wasn't there that Warren Beatty movie "Reds"? I haven't seen it, but I think I can be confident that it wasn't told from the perspective of the Romanovs! 😅🫣
Also the US banned (and still bans) movies all the time and no one bats an eye. Ever here of the Hays Code? One of the most destructive things ever to happen to artistic freedom in cinema-and it didn't come from the Soviet Union which allowed just about anything within reason on screen-it came from the bastion of freedom itself.
which allowed just about anything within reason on screen reason mostly condicing with Hays code aside from relgious or muerican epecifi themses in code.Sovet union was also largely puritanical and while hays code experide at end of 70s being chalged before hand cenzorship of problematic themes in ussr continued till era of glasnost whciuh was already end of USSR. Also one thing to note that 50s when Hays code as mostly implmeneted are also known as Golden era or hollyowood whcih coudl mean that those rules and rules in USSR whcih actined similiary in censoring degenated themes like sexual content drugs,glorificaion of criminals etc wasntr that bad.
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25:00 comrade Dusya is looking glorious under that light
It's funny how most of these dances are really dances that came from working class spaces to then get co-opted by mainstream culture. Maybe if the soviets had a little less going on, they could've worked on learning about the dances, and doing some deconstruction and reconnecting them to the working class. Also, some of the interpretations of "depravity" and "immorality" are ironically really western based concepts. like all the civilization - barbarism Ideas and such. I guess they couldn't realize that at the time.
Ballroom dancing was considered classist for obvious reasons. As for the immorality - it was reintroduced back because of two things: a STD epidemic and the pressure of traditionalist people from villages. So, death to sex.
The film "Footloose" was actually based upon actual events . It was largely due to the cultural hegemony of the Church of Christ , in the town that all social dancing was officially banned by local ordinance . I remember that also in the church which I largely was brought up in , the Church of the Nazarene , which if you all haven't heard of it , and I wouldn't blame you , is part of the larger Holiness movement , has likewise historically been against people dancing together , and still to this day condemns "carnal dancing " , as being incompatible with proper Christian conduct . So at least Soviet society back then was still relatively more personally free than in such restrictive religious sects as those which some persons , such as myself , had been raised in .
“There’s always context!” aka “can you please, for the love of God, at least understand what was going on here instead of having a knee jerk reaction?!” 😅 Like, I can roll my eyes about what they’re doing and not agree with it, but the entire story behind what led to those actions is FASCINATING. Especially when you place it in wider worldwide context, the thread of history has more mirrors than windows. AND OMG AS I WROTE THIS YOU MENTIONED ME. YOU’RE THE BEST THANK YOU.
*ITS ALWAYS CLAIMED* you could not criticise the government - a few years ago my Bulgarian friend showed me a Bulgarian Classic Movie - its a parody of the bureaucracy and the government from beginning to end. And this was their equivalent of the classic Christmas movie. And all that dark oppressive wood in the buildings - I realised from the movie -- that was bright and fresh and AMAZING when it was new. And so were the clothes, she still has her mother's wardrobe from the 1960's, 70's and 80's - they had BEAUTIFUL clothing.
with exception of maybe 1935-1950, criticizing govt was fairly acceptable. writers like Bulgakov, Demyan Bedniy and Sholokhov, Ilif and Pertrov duo were fairly critical of it. The real problem was not the lack of criticism, but the complete destruction of organized political opposition (i mean left-wing independent parties and organizations). The determination of CPSU to control all social movements (and destroy those that didn't comply) was really destructive, and what in the end led to the degradation of CPSU as many believe.
@@Daniel_Zhu_a6f You are 100 X more educated and knowledgeable than I am on this. Im a British guy who moved to Bulgaria with the usual lies in my head about what communism was like as provided by Western propaganda. Turns out propaganda is REALLY effective cos it was nothing like I was told. The bit that annoys me the most, is it was really LAZY propaganda, cos its not like people living here didn't have criticisms of socialism. Just not the ones we were endlessly told in the west,
I got into czechoslovak movies recently and yeah, showing wealthy bribing state clerks or just wealthy existing in czechoslovak society using power for their benefit like its Tuesday until something extraordinary puts an end to that doesn't fit the internet stereotype of communist enforced groupthink, lies being truth and nothing bad ever happening in communist countries by law.
@@piccalillipit9211 yes, reactionary propaganda relies on ignorance and emotional manipulation. it's fairly easy to see through, when you know basic facts on the subject, but the downside is that reactionaries can produce ungodly quantities of it in a matter of days.
@@piccalillipit9211 what's more interesting and much more disturbing, that many ppl in ex-soviet countries believe in a lot of these myths. eg one of the funniest things i've heard is that in gulag they made people to extract uranium from ore manually by melting it on giant (~1m in diameter) "cooking pans". soviet penitentiary system definitely wasn't fun, but this is bordering on breaking the laws of physics, kind of hard to heat an open pan to 1000C without air-frying people who operate nearby.
Hi, I think your looser style of telling stories and enjoying yourself, is even more engaging and fun to watch. Your energy is super inspiring to me, both politically and personally. The personal yapping time segment is fun, I think you should consider keeping it in. Apart from the history and the politics, there’s also a anti-alienation element to it, I think. Which is healthy for us. Thanks comrade!
I also find it funny that the West most officially the United States talks about it when they practically banned rock and roll and black music and Lily ran ads telling people why they shouldn’t listen to black music relying on stereotypes and racism. This is why I can’t stand the United States.
Western authorities since Middke Ages have sought to ban some dance it other, starting + moves vs. flamenco, later, vs. waltz, lindy hop?, early 50s rock (no dance style label, Argentine tango .etcetc.
The way the imperialist capitalist nations can just ban marginalised people's art over stupid stuff like sexism and racism like eg jazz was not widely loved for a time cuz racism for a while, and then the anti dance hall stuff due to misogyny. Although silly theres still a contextually understandable reason why the USSR and eastern germany "had to" ban certain things in the context of espionage. At least thats a legit reason that isnt, i hate minorities or women who are "impure" are bad. Only to have people who banned art for stupid reasons to try to explain to them certain things
Even if the ban was silly and kind of goofy, at least the ussr's reasons are somewhat more relatively "concrete" in context that isnt as flimsy as compared to "moral decay" from..listening to music made by poc and women going to dance halls. Although i personally find the bans p silly and odd its still so weird for the US to try to push red scare with this as if they werent doing the same for bigoted reasons.
This is why we must thoroughly root out conservatism within the communist movement. This attitude of putting chastity on a pedestal is detrimental to social progress.
'Social conservatism' is fundamentally anti-materialist. Social norms are just as much a part of the material world as everything else. Feudal modes of human reproduction are no more "default human nature" than wage labor and market competition are "default human nature".
More a problem of idealism in my mind. A proper analysis would easily have made it clear, that a certain dance or style of clothes is not equivalent to capitalism. Making people to hide their potential sympathies for capitalism does not make that go away. If there really were spies and western propagandists at those dance floors, the rational thing to do, would have been to send communists there to participate, catch the spies and carefully influence those, who actually were attracted to capitalism instead of just liking the dance or style. And the sure method to neutralize the whole problem, would have been to offensively embrace the foreingn culture in the name of internationalism and even invite comrades from the US or western Europe to teach those cultural aspects to change the context.
No, we must represent our people in its current stage of development. Which is what it was with these bans (which were more in the form of public discussion and criticism anyway) in the 1920's. 'Chastity on pedestal being detrimental to social progress' is confusing the basis with the superstructure.
That's not a good idea, the majority of the global south is conservative and it would only promote culture wars and conflict not social harmony. I think it would be better if things were just left up to the people to decide for themselves what they like, while also making sure local culture is available as well.
Dusya is my favorite, what a star! But also I have been loving your videos! Especially appreciate how you focus on aspects that you are personally interested and connected with because that’s what makes learning history enjoyable:)
Thank you!!! I'm really trying to get better at editing but my laptop is 5 years old and lags so much it takes me days to edit now and some of the timing of the text and images are skewed because of it 😭😭😭
I believe some of Aleksandra Pakhmutova's music was briefly banned for being "too western" in the 1970s, before the party realized that they were being a bunch of nerds about it and reversed it in less than a year.
I think personality to information ratio is fine as it. I certainly enjoyed the yapping section of the video and would love to hear more wacky/interesting stories. "Dusyaism is not revisionism"
Absolutely love the style on this one. Thank you, also, for discussing some of the more...ahhh...sensationalized and inaccurate pop culture claims about the USSR.
@@LadyIzdihar Im a "semi-professional" tailor of men's historical suits 1890 - 1940. But with women's clothes its just "OH that nice" - I dont have the background knowledge.
Really!!!!. My mother was born in the Soviet Union and later joined the Red army as a sniper. Singing and dancing was a very important aspect of Soviet life not only in civilian life but the military. During the Great Patriotic War famous male and female actors would entertain the troops behind the front lines an well as in Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow. In those same cities fashionable clothing was the rage.
this video had it all, stilyagi, soviet records, the wider cultural and social context of the infant soviet union...i love it. would you ever do a video about the whole bone record thing? i'm a lover and avid collector of soviet music!! speaking of soviet records of western artists, i have a soviet CCR record, they were HUGE in the USSR!!
I think you are doing great on the ratio of information and personality. I also enjoy the little stylized “skits” or whatever you want to call them. They add nice craft to the videos. And they’re fun! Dusyaism is not revisionism!
I originally started watching because I was really interested in this side of history and everything you knew about it and after seeing the addition of your personal inputs, opinions and stories I've only realized that your not just knowledgable but also super relatable which feels really good since there aren't many people I can talk to about workers history and then immediately switch over to a discussion about a show I watched last night lol (you should start a podcast btw 100% would watch)
Also comrade Izdihar it is amazing to get know your personal experiences, personality, etc, because as you told yourself it is humanising and helps realise that there is a real person with their own unique life behind these videos and not just another video on this platform that you consume and move on, but on top of that it also makes the videos feel less like a lecture and umm more friendly (not in like a parasocial) and that makes learning about these topics more engaging and fun, I hope im making sense. Also a Marxist analysis on Hazbin hotel? Yes plss ✨✨✨ Anyways these are just my lil ol opinions
Thank you, I appreciate knowing that people like this direction! And I agree, I think it's humanizing. I think it's just a constant uphill struggle to be taken seriously for me so I worry about making that aspect worse 😔
The only time I've seen adults learn the correct lesson about the consequences of telling kids not to do a thing are the marketing executives who created those federally mandated "Parents, please sit your kids down and tell them not to smoke" commercials for the cigarette companies back in the 2000s. (USA)
The appropriate ratio imo is malleable and whatever you are comfortable with. I think it's important to not forget the fundamental ugliness at the root of RUclips as a platform.
Loved this video! I love to dance and never knew anything about how it was approached by the soviet union. The balance between information, humour and personal stories was great, keep it up!
The intro reminds me of that time I was looking at a soviet sports magazine with my brother, and a picture of a women's basketball team was on the page. He pointed to it and asked, "Oh my god, are they pretending to be Americans?" And at first at, i had no idea what he was talking about, and I said "no, they are wearing soviet uniforms, " and he was like "no their hair. That isn't the standard soviet hairstyle for women. " 😭 Yes, all hairstyles except "standard" were banned of course
Chechenya also banmed banned bpm songs higher than a certain valeu, and i said it was to stop the attack by the west on their ideolgy, but the real reason for the ban was to stop punk and anti russian government songs, i think the bam in does dances might have been the same idea
This really helped contextualize some of the weird nonsense I heard about the USSR in the ‘70s and ‘80s (it wasn’t *fresh* nonsense, but it was still in circulation). For what it’s worth, I think your ratio is firmly in the Goldilocks zone.
loved this!! really appreciate the honesty and the contextual comparison between the soviet and north american cultural anxieties at the time. also, please we need the economics of hell thru a marxist lens I'M BEGGING
Re: the ratio of personality to info; I like it. It's great to learn about all the stuff you deep dived into and presented to us, but then having the personal aspect of *why* it's important or interesting to you gives it a further dimension. Also appreciating tovarisch Dusya's important and enlightening input, as always!
I'm so glad that you have found the energy and motivation to go back to posting. Your content is a breath of fresh air and an inspiration ❤ I found this video to be cohesive and coherent, honestly, and the end was the cherry on top!
People need to learn that even though context doesn't justify many actions, it's important to understand. Though I think banning ways for people to have fun is counterproductive to maintaining the faith of people, and is reminiscint of Bourgeois social conservatism
thanks for the video! very infomrative and well explained! yes, personal anedots and being yourself in the videos is super interesting and humanizes a lot the video! I watched it complete and enjoyed every part of it!
There was a bit of a "Jazz War" in the 50s -60s when the US tried to make American jazz ideological in a way and opposed to communism. But by that point jazz had flourished around the world!
I just subscribed to your channel and I'm blown away. It's one of the best channels in RUclips for those of us who love history, especially about the Soviet Union. This video was very informative about a subject that's not talked about much. As a film major many years ago I studied Soviet Cinema because it was required. I was lucky to have an excellent professor who, like you, had a passion for what she was teaching. She discussed various cultural and historical aspects in order for us to understand Kuleshov, Eisenstein and others because it could only be understood within the context of Marxist ideology. However, this is the first video I see about the banning of certain dance styles and the reasons behind it. Keep up the great work!
I love your videos because not only is it great to hear another perspective but you focus on the lives of the ordinary working class people and not just the rulers. Also, your fashion sense is impeccable. If I could afford a Patreon, it would be yours.Oh, and it's great to hear about you as a person. Dusyaism is not revisionism
@@aitnez Of course! Hakim, Yugopnik, and Second Thought are all excellent in what they do, and their podcast (The Deprogram) is amazing (Lazy Izdihar was even brought on the show for an episode!. Balkan Odyssey is especially good for all matters pertaining to the Balkans and Eastern Europe. If you want longer video-essays, with DETAILED sources, for all sorts of topics, BadEmpanada is also amazing at what he does. Lastly, and in my opinion most importantly, Ben Norton from Geopolitical Economy Report does INCREDIBLE work in analyzing the current news. Beware that he has a more Dengist perspective, which you might not necessarily agree with, but his analyses are always top notch. I hope this helps!
@@stefmyt5062 Thank you so much!!! I'm Brazilian, and here we have Soberana wich is a Marxist-Leninist group working to raise political awareness among workers online. Since more workers are using smartphones to access the internet, they believe it's important to be active in the social midia. So here, there's tons of communism channels, but I've been struggling to find communism content in English, everytime I try to search I just found a lot of anti communism content. So thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I'll start to watch these chanels. Oh and btw, I took a look at your youtube channel and I think you should do more arduino content, that's really cool! (I just started learning arduino at college)
@@aitnez Haha, that's awesome! Thanks for the kind words. I've not posted any videos in quite some time because university has started taking up a lot of my time too, but I might do something soon! Have a great day comrade.
I'm really glad I found both your youtube and instagram after I deleted my tiktok account and completely forgot to save the urls of the accounts I like :^) as an aside, I like watching these videos while I crochet and I'm a very big fan of that crochet flowery blanket you have in the background :^D
What a fascinating history and analysis ! Dance as a social artifact is so fragile to time but often so reflective of the culture and period it originated in. I never really thought about dancing as seriously before this video (at least non-folk dances), so thank you for that. The idea of the spy in the dance hall is so intriguing. The security justification for the ban I can get, even if may disagree somewhat. However, the whole banning dance as a source of immorality will always be funny to me. Especially from the point of view of today and how it happened basically everywhere in the world at some point. "Let the people dance!" I say. Anything less is revisionism, which dusyaism certainly isn't! Regarding the point at the end. I find it very hard to hide my enthusiasm about a topic I am passionate about. These video ooze with personality to me because of your drive and dedication and I like that. I found there was a good balance of education and personality. Have a good day, comrade!
Brilliant, unbiased presentation that conveys the character, mood, and thinking of those times well, which helps us understand the logic behind their actions.
That was awesome ... thank you. It is an excellent run-down of some of the more intricate details to help understand some of the more obscure decisions made in the USSR. It arms me with down to earth material for debate. And helps me understand how a new socialist revolution might shape culture through policy,
I love when you add in personal anecdotes, it really helps to humanize the subject matter. Knowing why another person in this modern day is fascinated with socialism helps me unpack my own mind. Please only ever share what you want though, no pressure. :D
thanks youtube for showing me your channel, Ive loved your sense of world and the clear vision of interests and facts on dynamic situations. parabéns from brazil :)
@@qwertykeyboard5901 I agree I really wish there was more literature out there that laid out the exact layout of the Soviet gov and how elections worked
Also Hazbin/Helluva is amazing! I like your current mix. The bigger worry is just that putting your info into the internet can be very dangerous. That kinda thing definitely stresses me the hell out and I don't even make videos.
An amazing video! It was very interesting, I love learning more about subcultures and the cultural aspect of the Soviet Union and other real socialist experiences throughout history so it had a little bit of everything I like. Don't worry too much about trying to give your spin on your content because as much as I like a profound video essay with references, not every knowledgeable historian(or whatever) is great at communicating or making a piece of media that entertains. And entertaining is also something that keep us watching, it doesn't mean it diminishes the information within it but to find a way to complement education is very good. It's these pieces of media that get people interested in learning more. As for your personal touch, I enjoyed it. It got to me thinking about when I was a very narrow minded metal head that went to anime conventions and how learning how to dance and enjoying dancing was a freeing experience. It's lighthearted and warming to see what you have shared so far. As a straight man that only in the last few years being a social democrat began to let go of anticommunist prejudice your content has been one of my fondest to watch and learn about the Soviet Union. Every woman friend I have I try to show your videos to nudge them more into marxist feminism. It is thanks to work such as yours that I started reading Krupskaya and Kollontai. Maybe one day I will start reading Anna Louise Strong.
Really like your take on this part of history, we generally know little and forget what we know - prohibition etc. Hearing you contextualising those times is very enlightening. Thanks.
Love your passion for Charleston!! It's inspiring. Thank you for sharing your research with us Btw, I don't know if I'd be the only one, but I am very curious about your dialectical perspective on the Hellaverse
Oh, I loved this. One angle that was not discussed, though, if there was a racism element to the North American moral panic in the 1920 and 30s and also the American government banning indigenous ceremonial dances in the late 19th century.
Great video comrade, and for shed some light on these issues. I hear that they also banned Metal on the Soviet Union. I kinda get it, but it's a bummer anyway. You have any information on that? I'm terrible looking for information on the internet, and find information about the Soviet Union without biases even harder.
I know Steve (who I mention and Link to in description) has some videos on hard music and music subcultures being banned or limited in East Germany so I'd suggest watching those and to consider the Soviets did the same for very similar reasons!
I think a good ratio is one at which you feel comfortable at. In the end, this is a two-way relation. Even if you don't see us, I wouldn't want you to share anything you don't feel confortable sharing. However, knowing how you came to like the dance style and got interested in the topic is quite interesting from the perspective of a person interested in culture. 😀
regarding the question of personality levels in the videos, i think you're on a good level more is okay too, i personally think it adds ''value'' to the video , for lack of a better word
Fun fact: In 1740 in South Carolina, drumming was banned for slaves because they thought that the slaves could send each other secret messages through percussion to organize revolts.
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Unfortunately the internet archive lied and one of the background songs was NOT royalty free 😂
Please, please please do a Marxist analysis of Hazbin Hotel! I feel like it would be entertaining and informative. I will be eternally grateful! ❤️
FROM CLE OHIO ANTIFA
23:19 *Kavkaz = from the Caucasus region, implying a (thick?) accent
Could you put the movie title you mentioned in the description/comments pls?
PLEASE cover the Chinese Social Credit system and how it actually functions.
Communism is when no charleston
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This is my new go to slogan to confuse the hell out of folks
The less Charleston there is the more communist it is
communism is when no fools
Because they were cartoonish villains that wanted to conquer the world of course! /s
No. Stop believing western propaganda
Yeah, just like Pinky and the Brain!!
b-but 300 millions of billions of deaths !!!! trust me bro !!!!
All leaders with mustaches are evil.
That's literally what the communist 'recolution' is. It calls for a global totalitarian system.
“My husband’s over there dancing with a twink having the time of his life”
I’ve never met your husband but he sounds wonderful
He's the best!! 😀
@@LadyIzdihar what's a twink?
Twinks are the best!!!!! From a twink.
@@AuraCraftA cute fellow.
I was SHOCKED to discover that Soviet citizens weren't allowed to generate portals for interstellar travel. It typically required three months of paperwork before you could build one. Unfortunately, no one could figure out a way to get back, and the practice was discontinued.
Is that a Lifeless Planet reference!?
@@listenToTheRats979 believe it or not, I hadn't heard of that one. Immediately looked it up. Wow! 😧
I was watching that new show about the Russian revolution with Ewan McGregor; and I realized that I couldn't think of a single American movie or show, or any media for that matter, that didn't tell the Russian story from the perspective of some royal, or wealthy, or otherwise bourgeois-ish character. I wonder if this is because centering the story around an average person would do too much to highlight the social gains resulting from socialism. It would be interesting to see a video that contrasted the narrative point of view between Soviet produced and American produced movies and such.
That's precisely correct, also that Russian Gentleman show is based on a novel, just a 100% made up guy
Wasn't there that Warren Beatty movie "Reds"? I haven't seen it, but I think I can be confident that it wasn't told from the perspective of the Romanovs! 😅🫣
@@joeyrufo Yeah, but Warren Beatty was Bulworth who was a US bourgeois politician pig.....so.....😂😂🤣🤣
@@jimmypickles1123 did you watch that movie? He was advocating for Medicare for all! The politics in that movie holds up way better than the humor! 😅
@@joeyrufo TLDW. I can't be expected to actually know what I'm talking about....in this economy.
Also the US banned (and still bans) movies all the time and no one bats an eye. Ever here of the Hays Code? One of the most destructive things ever to happen to artistic freedom in cinema-and it didn't come from the Soviet Union which allowed just about anything within reason on screen-it came from the bastion of freedom itself.
Every accusation the West makes is a confession of their past crimes
Eh…I think plenty of people get upset over anything being banned: books, movies, etc.
@@loadishstone Hardly anyone says that the US is a totalitarian hellscape where you can't speak your mind though. In fact it's the exact opposite
*within reason*
which allowed just about anything within reason on screen
reason mostly condicing with Hays code aside from relgious or muerican epecifi themses in code.Sovet union was also largely puritanical and while hays code experide at end of 70s being chalged before hand cenzorship of problematic themes in ussr continued till era of glasnost whciuh was already end of USSR.
Also one thing to note that 50s when Hays code as mostly implmeneted are also known as Golden era or hollyowood whcih coudl mean that those rules and rules in USSR whcih actined similiary in censoring degenated themes like sexual content drugs,glorificaion of criminals etc wasntr that bad.
25:00 comrade Dusya is looking glorious under that light
She really steals the show 😞
oh my god, Ian neves from the História publica channel, you here!
@@joaovictorpessoaqueiroz4783caralho
meu Deus, BR é igual areia, entra em todo canto mesmo
is this the brasileiro youtuber ian snow?
It's funny how most of these dances are really dances that came from working class spaces to then get co-opted by mainstream culture. Maybe if the soviets had a little less going on, they could've worked on learning about the dances, and doing some deconstruction and reconnecting them to the working class. Also, some of the interpretations of "depravity" and "immorality" are ironically really western based concepts. like all the civilization - barbarism Ideas and such. I guess they couldn't realize that at the time.
I meant to talk more about the Charleston coming from Black workers too but forgot!
I don't blame the Soviets at all for being paranoid about western influence
@@anb9999
yup ideas are diffcult to control..muercans wre paranoiud about communist influnces as well.
Ballroom dancing was considered classist for obvious reasons.
As for the immorality - it was reintroduced back because of two things: a STD epidemic and the pressure of traditionalist people from villages. So, death to sex.
Turns out that the town from Footloose was actually in the USSR
Fr 😮💨
@@LadyIzdiharKick off your bourgeois shoes
Also Virginia
The film "Footloose" was actually based upon actual events . It was largely due to the cultural hegemony of the Church of Christ , in the town that all social dancing was officially banned by local ordinance . I remember that also in the church which I largely was brought up in , the Church of the Nazarene , which if you all haven't heard of it , and I wouldn't blame you , is part of the larger Holiness movement , has likewise historically been against people dancing together , and still to this day condemns "carnal dancing " , as being incompatible with proper Christian conduct . So at least Soviet society back then was still relatively more personally free than in such restrictive religious sects as those which some persons , such as myself , had been raised in .
babe wake up, lady izdihar uploaded a new video!
“There’s always context!” aka “can you please, for the love of God, at least understand what was going on here instead of having a knee jerk reaction?!” 😅
Like, I can roll my eyes about what they’re doing and not agree with it, but the entire story behind what led to those actions is FASCINATING. Especially when you place it in wider worldwide context, the thread of history has more mirrors than windows.
AND OMG AS I WROTE THIS YOU MENTIONED ME. YOU’RE THE BEST THANK YOU.
💖💖💖 sorry I somehow forgot to say out loud that I was referencing your video. Idk what happened 😭
My ex was 6’3 and she’s right there with you for loving to dance the Charleston as a tall lady. I’ve seen her do it to Black Flag and Bikini Kill 😂
Hardcore 2-step is SO similar!! 💃🏻
*ITS ALWAYS CLAIMED* you could not criticise the government - a few years ago my Bulgarian friend showed me a Bulgarian Classic Movie - its a parody of the bureaucracy and the government from beginning to end. And this was their equivalent of the classic Christmas movie.
And all that dark oppressive wood in the buildings - I realised from the movie -- that was bright and fresh and AMAZING when it was new. And so were the clothes, she still has her mother's wardrobe from the 1960's, 70's and 80's - they had BEAUTIFUL clothing.
with exception of maybe 1935-1950, criticizing govt was fairly acceptable. writers like Bulgakov, Demyan Bedniy and Sholokhov, Ilif and Pertrov duo were fairly critical of it. The real problem was not the lack of criticism, but the complete destruction of organized political opposition (i mean left-wing independent parties and organizations). The determination of CPSU to control all social movements (and destroy those that didn't comply) was really destructive, and what in the end led to the degradation of CPSU as many believe.
@@Daniel_Zhu_a6f You are 100 X more educated and knowledgeable than I am on this. Im a British guy who moved to Bulgaria with the usual lies in my head about what communism was like as provided by Western propaganda. Turns out propaganda is REALLY effective cos it was nothing like I was told.
The bit that annoys me the most, is it was really LAZY propaganda, cos its not like people living here didn't have criticisms of socialism. Just not the ones we were endlessly told in the west,
I got into czechoslovak movies recently and yeah, showing wealthy bribing state clerks or just wealthy existing in czechoslovak society using power for their benefit like its Tuesday until something extraordinary puts an end to that doesn't fit the internet stereotype of communist enforced groupthink, lies being truth and nothing bad ever happening in communist countries by law.
@@piccalillipit9211 yes, reactionary propaganda relies on ignorance and emotional manipulation. it's fairly easy to see through, when you know basic facts on the subject, but the downside is that reactionaries can produce ungodly quantities of it in a matter of days.
@@piccalillipit9211 what's more interesting and much more disturbing, that many ppl in ex-soviet countries believe in a lot of these myths. eg one of the funniest things i've heard is that in gulag they made people to extract uranium from ore manually by melting it on giant (~1m in diameter) "cooking pans". soviet penitentiary system definitely wasn't fun, but this is bordering on breaking the laws of physics, kind of hard to heat an open pan to 1000C without air-frying people who operate nearby.
Hi, I think your looser style of telling stories and enjoying yourself, is even more engaging and fun to watch. Your energy is super inspiring to me, both politically and personally. The personal yapping time segment is fun, I think you should consider keeping it in. Apart from the history and the politics, there’s also a anti-alienation element to it, I think. Which is healthy for us. Thanks comrade!
Thank you so much for the feedback! It's helpful hearing this :)
I also find it funny that the West most officially the United States talks about it when they practically banned rock and roll and black music and Lily ran ads telling people why they shouldn’t listen to black music relying on stereotypes and racism. This is why I can’t stand the United States.
Western authorities since Middke Ages have sought to ban some dance it other, starting + moves vs. flamenco, later, vs. waltz,
lindy hop?, early 50s rock (no
dance style label, Argentine tango
.etcetc.
@@samaval9920 like literally they’re hypocrites like in the Soviet union artist had the opportunity to be artist which under capitalism doesn’t exist
The way the imperialist capitalist nations can just ban marginalised people's art over stupid stuff like sexism and racism like eg jazz was not widely loved for a time cuz racism for a while, and then the anti dance hall stuff due to misogyny. Although silly theres still a contextually understandable reason why the USSR and eastern germany "had to" ban certain things in the context of espionage. At least thats a legit reason that isnt, i hate minorities or women who are "impure" are bad. Only to have people who banned art for stupid reasons to try to explain to them certain things
Even if the ban was silly and kind of goofy, at least the ussr's reasons are somewhat more relatively "concrete" in context that isnt as flimsy as compared to "moral decay" from..listening to music made by poc and women going to dance halls. Although i personally find the bans p silly and odd its still so weird for the US to try to push red scare with this as if they werent doing the same for bigoted reasons.
@@espeon871 yuh definitely
This is why we must thoroughly root out conservatism within the communist movement. This attitude of putting chastity on a pedestal is detrimental to social progress.
'Social conservatism' is fundamentally anti-materialist. Social norms are just as much a part of the material world as everything else. Feudal modes of human reproduction are no more "default human nature" than wage labor and market competition are "default human nature".
More a problem of idealism in my mind. A proper analysis would easily have made it clear, that a certain dance or style of clothes is not equivalent to capitalism. Making people to hide their potential sympathies for capitalism does not make that go away.
If there really were spies and western propagandists at those dance floors, the rational thing to do, would have been to send communists there to participate, catch the spies and carefully influence those, who actually were attracted to capitalism instead of just liking the dance or style. And the sure method to neutralize the whole problem, would have been to offensively embrace the foreingn culture in the name of internationalism and even invite comrades from the US or western Europe to teach those cultural aspects to change the context.
The issue lay in the class corruption within the Vanguard party, which was ironically established to prevent such corruption.
No, we must represent our people in its current stage of development. Which is what it was with these bans (which were more in the form of public discussion and criticism anyway) in the 1920's.
'Chastity on pedestal being detrimental to social progress' is confusing the basis with the superstructure.
That's not a good idea, the majority of the global south is conservative and it would only promote culture wars and conflict not social harmony.
I think it would be better if things were just left up to the people to decide for themselves what they like, while also making sure local culture is available as well.
I feel spoiled by the amount of content you’ve released lately ❤
Trying to do a RUclips video every other week :) I have lots of ideas, I'm just not the best at editing or getting lighting right
@@LadyIzdiharyou’re great at editing
your Ahegao face needs the magical African seed 🕎🦍
Dusya is my favorite, what a star! But also I have been loving your videos! Especially appreciate how you focus on aspects that you are personally interested and connected with because that’s what makes learning history enjoyable:)
Yay! Thank you! I'm glad people are liking this!
Thumbnail? BANGER
New Blazer? SLAYS
Humor? ON POINT
Education? 💯
Editing and narrative? SLAPS
Outro? Loved it!
Keep it up comrade!
Thank you!!! I'm really trying to get better at editing but my laptop is 5 years old and lags so much it takes me days to edit now and some of the timing of the text and images are skewed because of it 😭😭😭
@@LadyIzdiharyour editing is great
I believe some of Aleksandra Pakhmutova's music was briefly banned for being "too western" in the 1970s, before the party realized that they were being a bunch of nerds about it and reversed it in less than a year.
We learn by making mistakes I guess 😂
@@LadyIzdihar Happens to the best of us! 😆
I think personality to information ratio is fine as it. I certainly enjoyed the yapping section of the video and would love to hear more wacky/interesting stories. "Dusyaism is not revisionism"
Absolutely love the style on this one. Thank you, also, for discussing some of the more...ahhh...sensationalized and inaccurate pop culture claims about the USSR.
*I ABSOLUTELY LOVE* your historical costumes - Im 200mm from the screen of a 27" iMac studying every detail LOL
Oh man, these aren't super thought out accurate outfits. Just impulsive "Ah! This looks 1920s enough!!"
@@LadyIzdihar Im a "semi-professional" tailor of men's historical suits 1890 - 1940. But with women's clothes its just "OH that nice" - I dont have the background knowledge.
Really!!!!. My mother was born in the Soviet Union and later joined the Red army as a sniper. Singing and dancing was a very important aspect of Soviet life not only in civilian life but the military. During the Great Patriotic War famous male and female actors would entertain the troops behind the front lines an well as in Leningrad, Stalingrad and Moscow. In those same cities fashionable clothing was the rage.
What does grad mean at the end of their names? Is it City sort of like Stan means land
@@waspwrap1235 yes, "grad" is shortened/different form of "gorod", which is city
@@wumi2419 ah thx
I think your ratio of personality to info is really great i enjoyed the yapping session too about how you got into learning 1920s dancing
this was really interesting! side note: you have the coolest outfits ever
this video had it all, stilyagi, soviet records, the wider cultural and social context of the infant soviet union...i love it. would you ever do a video about the whole bone record thing? i'm a lover and avid collector of soviet music!! speaking of soviet records of western artists, i have a soviet CCR record, they were HUGE in the USSR!!
I think you are doing great on the ratio of information and personality. I also enjoy the little stylized “skits” or whatever you want to call them. They add nice craft to the videos. And they’re fun!
Dusyaism is not revisionism!
I originally started watching because I was really interested in this side of history and everything you knew about it and after seeing the addition of your personal inputs, opinions and stories I've only realized that your not just knowledgable but also super relatable which feels really good since there aren't many people I can talk to about workers history and then immediately switch over to a discussion about a show I watched last night lol (you should start a podcast btw 100% would watch)
💖💖💖 thank you
having more of your personality in these videos has made them more fun and engaging, love seeing your passion!
I've noticed my feed was lacking some drip, because YT have unsubscribed me from your channel
Glad to be back
this is the best source of everyday USSR history
❤ the vid. Informative, engaging, simply wonderful. Cheers🎉
Also comrade Izdihar it is amazing to get know your personal experiences, personality, etc, because as you told yourself it is humanising and helps realise that there is a real person with their own unique life behind these videos and not just another video on this platform that you consume and move on, but on top of that it also makes the videos feel less like a lecture and umm more friendly (not in like a parasocial) and that makes learning about these topics more engaging and fun, I hope im making sense. Also a Marxist analysis on Hazbin hotel? Yes plss ✨✨✨
Anyways these are just my lil ol opinions
Thank you, I appreciate knowing that people like this direction! And I agree, I think it's humanizing. I think it's just a constant uphill struggle to be taken seriously for me so I worry about making that aspect worse 😔
I love hearing your Personal Stories
The only time I've seen adults learn the correct lesson about the consequences of telling kids not to do a thing are the marketing executives who created those federally mandated "Parents, please sit your kids down and tell them not to smoke" commercials for the cigarette companies back in the 2000s. (USA)
The appropriate ratio imo is malleable and whatever you are comfortable with.
I think it's important to not forget the fundamental ugliness at the root of RUclips as a platform.
Greetings from Brazil, comrade! 😀
Your channel is fantastic
The people demand more input from Comrade Dusya!
Alcohol was once banned here. Its called prohibition!
Thank you for the explanation, what an interesting little subject
Charleston reminds me a lot of Freestep, which was very popular here in the late 2000s
pls i absolutely need more. this is the first ive ever seen of you and i love it so much. this is the most i learned in 30 mins
Loved this video! I love to dance and never knew anything about how it was approached by the soviet union. The balance between information, humour and personal stories was great, keep it up!
3:12 Where I can see more of Lady Izdihar dancing charleston???
The intro reminds me of that time I was looking at a soviet sports magazine with my brother, and a picture of a women's basketball team was on the page. He pointed to it and asked, "Oh my god, are they pretending to be Americans?" And at first at, i had no idea what he was talking about, and I said "no, they are wearing soviet uniforms, " and he was like "no their hair. That isn't the standard soviet hairstyle for women. " 😭 Yes, all hairstyles except "standard" were banned of course
Chechenya also banmed banned bpm songs higher than a certain valeu, and i said it was to stop the attack by the west on their ideolgy, but the real reason for the ban was to stop punk and anti russian government songs, i think the bam in does dances might have been the same idea
This really helped contextualize some of the weird nonsense I heard about the USSR in the ‘70s and ‘80s (it wasn’t *fresh* nonsense, but it was still in circulation).
For what it’s worth, I think your ratio is firmly in the Goldilocks zone.
Your fashion is amazing. Love the look
loved this!! really appreciate the honesty and the contextual comparison between the soviet and north american cultural anxieties at the time.
also, please we need the economics of hell thru a marxist lens I'M BEGGING
Re: the ratio of personality to info; I like it. It's great to learn about all the stuff you deep dived into and presented to us, but then having the personal aspect of *why* it's important or interesting to you gives it a further dimension.
Also appreciating tovarisch Dusya's important and enlightening input, as always!
You are the absolute Apex of Soviet Fashion Comrade, Bravo. Hugs from Mexico.
The lenin head is sweet
I'm so glad that you have found the energy and motivation to go back to posting. Your content is a breath of fresh air and an inspiration ❤
I found this video to be cohesive and coherent, honestly, and the end was the cherry on top!
People need to learn that even though context doesn't justify many actions, it's important to understand. Though I think banning ways for people to have fun is counterproductive to maintaining the faith of people, and is reminiscint of Bourgeois social conservatism
I'd love to hear more of your personal stories! I think this format is good, to leave the personal stuff at the end, it's nice. Keep going comrade
@LadyIzdihar Thank you for being vulnerable it's not easy. You're doing great! I really enjoyed your format, and I love your sense of humor.
your videos are really good!
Keep being yourself! It's very important to show humanity!
thanks for the video! very infomrative and well explained! yes, personal anedots and being yourself in the videos is super interesting and humanizes a lot the video! I watched it complete and enjoyed every part of it!
I've heard that jazz was banned in SU, and yet there's plenty of Jazz in USSR. In movies, foreign and local
There was a bit of a "Jazz War" in the 50s -60s when the US tried to make American jazz ideological in a way and opposed to communism. But by that point jazz had flourished around the world!
Very informative video. Glad I found your channel on RUclips. I've learned so much about the USSR and please keep expressing your personality.
I just subscribed to your channel and I'm blown away. It's one of the best channels in RUclips for those of us who love history, especially about the Soviet Union. This video was very informative about a subject that's not talked about much. As a film major many years ago I studied Soviet Cinema because it was required. I was lucky to have an excellent professor who, like you, had a passion for what she was teaching. She discussed various cultural and historical aspects in order for us to understand Kuleshov, Eisenstein and others because it could only be understood within the context of Marxist ideology. However, this is the first video I see about the banning of certain dance styles and the reasons behind it. Keep up the great work!
I loved learning more about Lady Idzdihar
@LadyIzdihar Great video, GREAT OUTFIT, and thank you for the recommendations!!!!
Great to see Comrade Dusya also has something to say. Great video.
I love your videos because not only is it great to hear another perspective but you focus on the lives of the ordinary working class people and not just the rulers. Also, your fashion sense is impeccable. If I could afford a Patreon, it would be yours.Oh, and it's great to hear about you as a person. Dusyaism is not revisionism
Excellent video, as always!
hey, comrade. Just randomly asking:
can you recommend me more communists channels in English?
@@aitnez Of course!
Hakim, Yugopnik, and Second Thought are all excellent in what they do, and their podcast (The Deprogram) is amazing (Lazy Izdihar was even brought on the show for an episode!.
Balkan Odyssey is especially good for all matters pertaining to the Balkans and Eastern Europe.
If you want longer video-essays, with DETAILED sources, for all sorts of topics, BadEmpanada is also amazing at what he does.
Lastly, and in my opinion most importantly, Ben Norton from Geopolitical Economy Report does INCREDIBLE work in analyzing the current news. Beware that he has a more Dengist perspective, which you might not necessarily agree with, but his analyses are always top notch.
I hope this helps!
@@stefmyt5062
Thank you so much!!!
I'm Brazilian, and here we have Soberana wich is a Marxist-Leninist group working to raise political awareness among workers online. Since more workers are using smartphones to access the internet, they believe it's important to be active in the social midia.
So here, there's tons of communism channels, but I've been struggling to find communism content in English, everytime I try to search I just found a lot of anti communism content.
So thank you so much! I really appreciate it. I'll start to watch these chanels.
Oh and btw, I took a look at your youtube channel and I think you should do more arduino content, that's really cool! (I just started learning arduino at college)
@@aitnez Haha, that's awesome! Thanks for the kind words. I've not posted any videos in quite some time because university has started taking up a lot of my time too, but I might do something soon!
Have a great day comrade.
I think the way you make your videos works well! It is fun to see personality rather than just information. :)
Thanks for all your work!
I'm really glad I found both your youtube and instagram after I deleted my tiktok account and completely forgot to save the urls of the accounts I like :^)
as an aside, I like watching these videos while I crochet and I'm a very big fan of that crochet flowery blanket you have in the background :^D
Thanks for this, 17:19.
So sorry 😞
Thank you for covering this
I swear I saw the title of this video and had a stroke. Anyways good video, and keep it up. This is good content
Maybe I shouldn't do click bait 😞
What a fascinating history and analysis ! Dance as a social artifact is so fragile to time but often so reflective of the culture and period it originated in. I never really thought about dancing as seriously before this video (at least non-folk dances), so thank you for that. The idea of the spy in the dance hall is so intriguing.
The security justification for the ban I can get, even if may disagree somewhat. However, the whole banning dance as a source of immorality will always be funny to me. Especially from the point of view of today and how it happened basically everywhere in the world at some point.
"Let the people dance!" I say. Anything less is revisionism, which dusyaism certainly isn't!
Regarding the point at the end. I find it very hard to hide my enthusiasm about a topic I am passionate about. These video ooze with personality to me because of your drive and dedication and I like that. I found there was a good balance of education and personality. Have a good day, comrade!
Brilliant, unbiased presentation that conveys the character, mood, and thinking of those times well, which helps us understand the logic behind their actions.
Thank you for the feedback I'm so happy it comes off this way!
That was awesome ... thank you.
It is an excellent run-down of some of the more intricate details to help understand some of the more obscure decisions made in the USSR.
It arms me with down to earth material for debate. And helps me understand how a new socialist revolution might shape culture through policy,
I love when you add in personal anecdotes, it really helps to humanize the subject matter. Knowing why another person in this modern day is fascinated with socialism helps me unpack my own mind. Please only ever share what you want though, no pressure. :D
thanks youtube for showing me your channel, Ive loved your sense of world and the clear vision of interests and facts on dynamic situations. parabéns from brazil :)
Nowadays we have theory meaning we know what to do and what NOT to do.
The early Soviets didn't have this. They where pretty much winging it.
EXACTLY
They tried their best
@@LadyIzdiharI got a question, James Madison was the main architect for the us gov and how it worked who was his Soviet equivalent
@@waspwrap1235 And they did pretty good tbh.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 I agree I really wish there was more literature out there that laid out the exact layout of the Soviet gov and how elections worked
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Solidarité ✊
Also Hazbin/Helluva is amazing! I like your current mix. The bigger worry is just that putting your info into the internet can be very dangerous. That kinda thing definitely stresses me the hell out and I don't even make videos.
An amazing video!
It was very interesting, I love learning more about subcultures and the cultural aspect of the Soviet Union and other real socialist experiences throughout history so it had a little bit of everything I like.
Don't worry too much about trying to give your spin on your content because as much as I like a profound video essay with references, not every knowledgeable historian(or whatever) is great at communicating or making a piece of media that entertains. And entertaining is also something that keep us watching, it doesn't mean it diminishes the information within it but to find a way to complement education is very good. It's these pieces of media that get people interested in learning more.
As for your personal touch, I enjoyed it. It got to me thinking about when I was a very narrow minded metal head that went to anime conventions and how learning how to dance and enjoying dancing was a freeing experience. It's lighthearted and warming to see what you have shared so far.
As a straight man that only in the last few years being a social democrat began to let go of anticommunist prejudice your content has been one of my fondest to watch and learn about the Soviet Union. Every woman friend I have I try to show your videos to nudge them more into marxist feminism. It is thanks to work such as yours that I started reading Krupskaya and Kollontai. Maybe one day I will start reading Anna Louise Strong.
2:40 the blazer is good
Really like your take on this part of history, we generally know little and forget what we know - prohibition etc. Hearing you contextualising those times is very enlightening. Thanks.
noo this is the best personal story to information ratio! :)
More people need to watch your videos!
Great video!!
A little late, but I enjoy the yapping part.
I also used to dance the hare hare yukai when I was a kid lol
Love your passion for Charleston!! It's inspiring. Thank you for sharing your research with us
Btw, I don't know if I'd be the only one, but I am very curious about your dialectical perspective on the Hellaverse
Wonderful video comrade!
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution"
Oh, I loved this. One angle that was not discussed, though, if there was a racism element to the North American moral panic in the 1920 and 30s and also the American government banning indigenous ceremonial dances in the late 19th century.
I agree I could have made it a lot better talking more about the origins of the dances as well that came from Black Americans!
Great video comrade, and for shed some light on these issues.
I hear that they also banned Metal on the Soviet Union. I kinda get it, but it's a bummer anyway. You have any information on that? I'm terrible looking for information on the internet, and find information about the Soviet Union without biases even harder.
I know Steve (who I mention and Link to in description) has some videos on hard music and music subcultures being banned or limited in East Germany so I'd suggest watching those and to consider the Soviets did the same for very similar reasons!
@LadyIzdihar Thanks comrade ✊🏼
I think a good ratio is one at which you feel comfortable at. In the end, this is a two-way relation. Even if you don't see us, I wouldn't want you to share anything you don't feel confortable sharing. However, knowing how you came to like the dance style and got interested in the topic is quite interesting from the perspective of a person interested in culture. 😀
Recontextualizing the Soviet Union with other moral panics of the time just made my brain grow about three sizes, so thank you for that.
Great video.
The skits are good. The "Hi, I'm a spy," black and white filter was a smart thing to add for making it visually interesting.
Please do a Marxist Leninist analysis on hazbin. I have been trying to explain theory to my girlfriend and that might help since it is less abstract
Very good and interesting video, thank you comrade
regarding the question of personality levels in the videos, i think you're on a good level more is okay too, i personally think it adds ''value'' to the video , for lack of a better word
Fun fact: In 1740 in South Carolina, drumming was banned for slaves because they thought that the slaves could send each other secret messages through percussion to organize revolts.