If you did, it is positively real! Those albums are personaly signed by the idols. You have nothing to worry about, if you bought it directly off of Mnet.
@@remy690 that isn’t the point? mwave signed albums are real and who cares if mnet are snakes because that doesn’t matter because what you want is a signed album and companies have signed album opportunities is to give fans happiness. mnet is just a distributor no point in trying to call them snakes for no apparent reason at the most random times ??
As someone who can’t afford to enter fansign events, let alone travel that far for them, I’ve recently bought a few signed things bc they are special to me in a way. All my signed items have come from official company stores or Mnet ! I have a signed SEVENTEEN album and there’s even marker stains on the back from them being signed and stacked, so I take it that the one I have is real. Along with that I have a signed Ten SuperM poster from the official SM online shop. I also have another signed poster on its way from SM and a signed TOO album from Mnet. I never buy signed items unless it’s coming from an official source of some kind. One day I would love to get something signed in person but as of now that’s not an option for me.
Selena Teeter SAME WITH MY VERIVERY ALBUM AND MY STRAY KIDS ALBUM! i recently ordered skz’s new comeback album from mwave too let’s see what mwave gives :)
I think this is video is a bit poorly thought out. Instead of discouraging someone who may be a new collector, perhaps address the difficulties in getting signed items and things to consider if you do want to buy one. Allow someone to determine for themselves whether it is worth it or not. While legitimacy is always a concern, it is completely possible to learn to determine authenticity. I will mention albums specifically because that's what i have the most experience with. If you just spend some time to learn the member's signatures, and do some research into the company, group, and specific eras where they are particularly busy, you will have a good indication of whether an album was signed by the members. There are plenty of fans who have studied the signatures of an artist or group over time, and it is completely possible to tell if an item is signed when a member is tired versus signed by a manager. The more you look at each signature, the more obvious it becomes. Of course, not everyone you could show a signature to is to be trusted in determining legitimacy. They should be able to pull up reference photographs and compare the signs, and explain their reasoning behind whether an album is legitimate or not. Additionally, there are plenty of opportunities to buy albums sold by mwave or posters directly from the company. These are authentic. Soompi albums are not sold any more, but they're also a legit source. Not everyone can go to a fansign, and not everyone wants to. Some people are totally fine with just owning something that their favorite artist has signed. I encourage anyone who wants to buy signed merch or start collecting in general, it is just another way to show support for your group. My collection is almost exclusively signed albums and I enjoy each one of them :)
Yes! Honestly some fans also can’t afford to buy however amount of albums that are necessary for the fansign. As of now, there’s video calls, but that can really become expensive near $500+ for an all member video fansign call or individual specific members. Signed albums are much cheaper and are definitely meaningful even if the collector didnt get a face to face interaction. 💖
when you were talking about how idols sometimes have people do there signatures for them i looked up at my signed poster on my wall and just kept staring at it making sure it was real
I don’t buy signed albums because I want to be the one to be there in person when my idols sign them. It probably won’t happen any time soon but I have hope of one day meeting BTS!😆 💜
you can do both tho..? as long as you didnt get the opportunity the get it signed you can buy a signed one and then go to the artist with another album. if you are able to meet the artist, that means you do have enough money to buy another unsigned album as well ( in most cases)
@A_tiny_San bts don’t put signed albums on mwave anymore, you would have to buy from resellers but I difficult to know if their albums are authentically signed or not because they’re so popular
hi! just discovered this video in my feed! as someone who has bought a signed album, i can assure you that they're authentic if they have a silver 비매/bimae sticker at the back of the album, indicating that they're from broadcast events! ^____^ sorry if i missed that in the video or anything! just to let anyone know in case you ever plan on getting signed merch but cannot attend fansigns! :)
I saw these signed photocards online imma buy them though even though they're fake but as a person who can't afford "real" merch I always buy fake merch I don't really care whether it's authentic or not but if it has good quality and a cheap price I will buy it😂😂😂
I mean you really have some valid points but I still keep buying signed sf9 stuff xD I'm to young to travel to Korea and to get into a fansign even though I'd obviously really like too. I always ask the people I buy it from for proof because I just can't blindly trust them. But Ofc you can never be sure. And all those signed albums I have are really special to me and I'm so glad I bight them. 0 regrets
I wish I could do that but I feel this only applies to fans living in Korea/Japan and maybe USA. my faves NEVER did a fansign in my country so my only choice is to buy it, otherwise I'll never get a signed album. however, I agree with you a lot forge signatures! I see a lot ebay sellers trying to scam us intl fans *sigh* but thank god I have the eyes of a hawk when it comes to my faves signatures lol but still I only buy from Mwave which is 100% authentic
Oh, thanks. I wanted to buy the Stray kids new album and I saw that Mwave had signed one. But I didn´t new if It was a good a idea or a bad. But thank you
kpop stay get it asap before it's too late cuz they sell out quite fast, there's also an Meet&Greet event when you buy the album, make sure you check it out in case you win. it's genuine bc even the artists post on SNS to buy from Mwave
Very true! I only buy from mnet if I want a signed album. Especially because I can't personally get it signed. I live in Nevada, and K-pop idols hardly come here. I would have to waste more money to get into a fansign. Anyways, I bought my skz album and I'm waiting for it to get shipped😊
Yo!HiTmAnBaNGIntRoDuCEs HiTit! although with social distancing even video fansigns are hard to get in especially if you stan big groups! personally, I feel fansigns are worth it face to face. I hope your albums arrive safely~
i dont buy signed stuff only cause it dont feel real. i didnt experience the signing. i dont feel the excitement when i see the sign cause i wasnt personally there to get it sign. so getting something signed would feel like a normal album to me
such a great video~ glad you brought up fansigns at the end since there was a major issue in the atiny fandom (idk if it still goes on but it happens probably in all fandoms) when fans buy fan slots to have their album page signed and post it note question answered and the amount of fake slots and scammers was just nauseating. hence i urge anyone contemplating fan slots to be careful (make sure the person can even provide video proof they sat with each member and if they’ve had experience doing slots before) or just don’t support fan slots entirely because it’s gotten out of hand and i’ve had so many friends be scammed out of so much money (depending on the group fan slots can be close to $300).
Most of the time when I see someone selling a signed album, I'm suspicious as well, even when I see them in an official store like Tower Records who do genuinely get stuff signed and would probably ruin their reputation by forging. I did however buy a concert ticket + signed album bundle 'cause I don't think companies would watch event managements selling forged stuff from artists in combination with official tickets
Yeah I personally never buy autographed albums unless it's from an official provider, and most of the times it is for the special PC/goodies. But to be honest the fansign experience is the best. Looking forward to the next table talk thursday~
In the past, I used to really want signed stuff from artists I listened to, but the more I think about it the less meaning it has. I'd rather spend the money going to a concert, because even if I can't talk to them or anything I still get the experience of seeing them preform. I understand why people go to fan signing, but if you just buy a signed album online its not really a meaningful experience.
I mean, there’s no way my fav kpop artists will come to my city or country, or do a fansign here...participating on online fansigns is also impossible for me since I am a minor. So yeah, buying signed merch is the best option for me.
As for rather attending fan signs yourself than having friends or sellers attending in your place, yes it's a lot better to be able to go yourself, but I think it's a good alternative 'cause you still get to ask your questions or convey a message to them. It does depend on the price though if it's worth it. Friends usually don't ask for more then what they have to spend on album, packaging and shipping. Just my thoughts on that matter ^^
This was good to know. I mean, I see signed things like this all over social medias, saying it's authentic. It raises red flags for me now, but like I said. It's nice to know about.
I remember when superm had the FANSIGN and everyone wanted to purchase the signed albums from those that went and a lot of people were stealing the photos of the people selling their signed album.
I'm wondering about signed albums promoted by the artistes' company itself, that should be real? eg I got a signed #POISON album through mwave when #VAV had their comeback. cos it is unlikely that I could get to a fansign but if I did get to one, I would gather funds to buy another album for VAV to sign. 😆
You should absolutely buy signed albums if you can. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to personally receive signatures. Just do ur research, plenty of sellers are authentic.
Cant say that i agree. Lots of fans cant enter events or travel to meet them. Now the issue of genuine signatures is legit, but again, there can def be comparisons online to tell if it is legit.
No you did not Mnet are all real and not fake idols have done videos of them signing the albums and going to fan meets are very expensive so you did well
I’ve only bought signed items from mwave or the actual company. like Blackpink’s signed art card things. I see a lot of the korean sellers selling signed albums but I’m too anxious to spend so much money without knowing for sure 😭😭
I like this idea, I think you should talk about things that only really happen in Korea or that Korean people do, just an idea tho, you can talk about whatever you want tho
i do agree if you are new to kpop then no its not good idea as you may not know what to buy but i think if u are willing to put time and effort into researching before you buy and are able confirm that its 100% real then i feel go for it
I rather would have it signed in front of me because then I would be able to see my idols. I would also like work with idols but that’s probs not gonna happen ever. My parents never let me go to fan meets. 😔😔
I feel ya. I wasn't allowed to attend concerts or anything like that either, but luckily that time will pass and you'll be able to make your own decisions later^^ hang in there
I know this is 2 years too late but for those who might be coming here to watch this video. REAL authentic signed albums have a holographic sticker on the back 비매 (pronounced 'bimae') This guy is just a hater, buy them if authentic. We are all not traveling to Korea to be snubbed by other people for a signed album. Debbie downer
Thank you for your perspective Kenji! I have one other question! What about the signed merch that the artists companies sell themselves? Like for instance I bought the signed copies of NU’EST’s “The Table” albums that were signed by one random member. So I got JR’s signature. I also bought a signed VAV album once, before I had the chance to meet them. But the signed sales were promoted by the group themselves. Are those always legit? I know that’s getting into a tougher topic! Lol That said, I’d never just buy a signed album off eBay or Mercari, etc... 🤪
Oooh good question! I feel like the merch that the artist company sell themselves are usually genuine BUT you still miss out on the fansign experience! So personally I wouldn’t!
Kenji Kumagai smart thinking! I can totally see your point! Meeting VAV and getting my album signed in person was way better! I feel so blessed I was able to meet them in San Francisco before this lockdown started!
I live pay check to pay check and am only able to splurge maybe once a month or even two months and it can’t even be that big, so fan signs are a no.....
While it is very common to see fake signed merch, there are plenty of ways to get trustworthy signed merch that don't involve going to korea and applying for a fansign. I can't stress enough just how expensive it is to fly to korea, buy at least dozens (if not hundreds or thousands) of albums, just for the chance to get into a fansign. Most people don't have that kind of money to spend. If anyone's interested, some alternatives are: •joining a fansign group order This is where a group order manager will split the cost of applying to a fansign into slots equal to the number of members so it's less expensive per person. For example I bought a chuu fansign slot that's personally signed to me for around ~100 cad. This option is more expensive than some others but WAY less expensive than if I were to apply for a fansign all by myself •buying an album off mnet Sometimes groups will offer signed albums off mnet. These are legitimately signed and usually aren't too much more expensive than a normal album •buying promos from certain ebay sellers For this, there's a lot more research you have to do but you can definitely get legitimately signed albums off ebay. Promo copies are albums given to people in the industry and are usually signed. Whether or not it's legitimately signed depends on the group. For example, mamamoo RARELY sign their albums in recent years (most are manager signed), whereas most nugu groups will. Do your research for this one. A great seller for signed albums is grapemusiccd, but there are a few others as well Some more expensive but alternative options: •applying for an online fansign This will likely cost as much as applying for an in person fansign (sometimes maybe more) but at least you don't have to fly to korea •polaroids These are very expensive, but depending on the group could be less than a fansign. Polaroids are usually signed Other ways to get signed stuff include contests, merch at concerts, etc What to avoid: Photocards are rarely signed. There are exceptions but do your research. Random pictures are just about never signed. Posters are rarely signed. Signed albums that aren't a promo copy, from mnet, or a fansign are VERY rare. tldr; you should do your research if you're looking to get signed stuff but to imply that you shouldn't get signed merch unless you go to a fansign and see it signed in front of you is just ridiculous imo. I hope this helps someone!
I've found most 'signed' Mamamoo albums on ebay are not signed by the members or their managers/staff, the members signatures are pre-stamped or pre-printed onto the album.
Waa i just found your channel last night. Your channel content are so interesting and informative. I guess I will be checking your channel every time then 😊
I think people look for signed albums online because they aren’t able to experience the interaction with their idol and get a signed album. I know I can’t. But even tho is looks real you shouldn’t waist your money. Like there are people selling signed albums for over 200$ and it might even be fake. Never take the chance.
My brother bought a signed BTS album for our youngest sibling. It's a bad idea because he spent too much money and I have someone checked the album, it's fake. So yeah, don't buy signed album. Save up for the event. Who knows
i don’t think you know how to look at signatures.... also do you not know MWAVE exists? 😂 like if you buy it from a random dude on ebay ofc its suspicious
I'm just saying "some companies" claim they are authentic and they are not~ because I know people who used to work at those companies who told me they were paid to forge before but I haven't seen the inner works of Mwave so I dunno~
@@KenjiKumagai for MWAVE albums they're always signed by the artist. If they weren't they would be able to ship so much faster. Also you can always compare them with signatures that they gift their staff like their dance teacher. idols wouldn't gift a choreographer or hair stylist a fake signature. And also you can compare with polaroids, and albums from fansigns since some people will upload their photos of their signed album. signed albums from fansign obviously can't be fake when the idols sign it right in front of you. for my favorite group (iz*one) you can tell it's never manager signed. I have their mwave album from every era, multiple signed polaroids and i have gotten into 2 fansigns. Also IZ*ONE's signatures are more complicated so they're very easy to recognize if its fake.
I cannot afford fansigns at all, I’m a little too young to go and travel all the way to Korea. And cos of covid we can’t rlly go anywhere. I got a Taeyong superm signed poster off eBay for like £23. I asked the seller for proof of authenticity. She said it hasn’t been opened and showed the sm information stuff at the back. After looking at the poster, it probably does look like it’s rushed. Even though I would pay anything to get my idol to sign my album in front of me, I feel like signed merch gives the equal experience minus the interactions. And your idol touched it SEE THATS THE BEST PART. My poster hasn’t come yet but will do someday, and I might buy another piece of signed merch another time but hopefully in the future I will go to a fansign.🥺
As for me who doesn't have a vast income and I rarely buy signed albums. Buying them is much easier than going to meet them in person if we can even try to afford it. Traveling to a different country especially korea is extremely expensive especially because they almost always have them there. I would LOVE to meet every single group I'm obsessed with but it is impossible for someone like me other other people that can't afford to travel even to a difference state. If I can afford it and if I'm lucky I will try for video call events where the artists sign the album, but not many will do video calls so for me if I see the opportunity to buy a legitimate album and I hope they are legit especially because I try to do as much research as a can I will buy signed albums if I feel comfortable with whatever amount I can afford. So yeah it is nice to have the experience but not all of us will get that chance as you mentioned the competition is high. I do understand it's your opinion and respect it but I feel for people like me who loves and support the artist not many of use will ever get the chance to meet them in the flesh.
me after watching this video : damn he is right, why i never think about it Then: hmmm im gonna be doctor after college, i can afford money from being a doctor a couple of seconds later: realising that being a doctor will still take me more than 10 years and maybe twice is already disbanded after that: i will ignore this and try to buy signed album later just once in a lifetime What a great solution :)
usually when i buy signed albums, i ask for them like example if they bought it from hello82 that they show me the sc of the order purchase so i see that its original! :D
Nagging people about getting stuff signed just 'cause they work in the industry seems wrong to me though... I feel it would be unprofessional. Work is work and not a fan sign session. No wonder they start forging stuff, when people keep annoying them
I bought two signed albums from cst in March and they send videos of signing proof and the albums are only like £20-35 so I recommend buying from there. Even if the signing is fake the albums are still cheap lmao
i still remember i brought(preordered) a heartiz album from a third party claiming to have in contact with OTR for the members to sign my album. the signatures were inside the album on each individual member's pages. I was pretty desperate and uneducated back then so I went ahead and brought it anyway (it was dead expensive). looking back, I shouldn't probably do that but oh well I at least have learned my lesson whether or not if the signatures were legitimate or not. ngl if the album wasn't legitimate the person who "scammed" me signed them well HAHA
I just bought 3 but the seller had proof of other buyers so I can trust them and one I bought one on ebay and this Person had over thousand reviews soo
I have a “signed” BTS album that i about 2 years ago off ebay. I don’t want it anymore and I want to sell it. But I obviously don’t want to sell anyone a fake, I need money tho. I have no idea if it’s real or fake, I don’t want it.
This video is just for koreans, basically he said that maybe the album is not autentic, but theres mwave who sold autentic signed albums, and the 2nd reason was "to live the fansing experience", well...he is talking in english so this vid is for all people around the world, so, tell me, how do I go to there an get it signed? 😂 buy a signed album is the most accesible way to get one. So this vid just work for koreans or asian fans.
I'm just saying "some companies" claim they are authentic and they are not~ because I know people who used to work at those companies who told me they were paid to forge before but I haven't seen the inner works of Mwave so I dunno~
There will never be a sure way to tell if a signed album is genuine or not, but there are things you can do to help your self weed out fakes a ones .. Get to know the signatures of your artists, that is a sure way to weed out fakes. MNET/MWAVE is practically the only place i trust to buy signed albums from, My entire Collection of IZ*ONE signed albums are MWAVE .. obviously ive heard stories of Staffs signing for the artists and such but its just a rumor at best. I've seen some really great signatures and ive seen some god awful signatures coming out of MWAVE but i put it down to the artists having SOOO many to sign they rush alot of the signatures and get sloppy when signing, maybe your sloppy one was one of the last ones your artist signed that day after signing 1000 copies ! .. anything is possible . Buying from Ebay is a risky one .. like in the video states ... sellers forge normal albums and if there good at it they can fool you and make more money .. but i say if you happy with it and beleive its real then thats fine ... Last one is if your buying a FULL OT signed album (meaning all signatures on one album) of ebay for instance or another sellers site ... , there is a sure way to tell if its good, if it has a "NOT FOR SALE" stamped on the back of the album ... these are signed by the artists them selfs (PROMOTION ALBUMS) and given out to media Execs and corporations relating to media as such to promote the group and they usually find there way in to some ones hands and on to ebay. Read up on the KOMCA sickers meanings .. Komca is actually an abbreviation for the Korean Music Copyright Association, and these stickers are like a mark of authenticity. They come in two main different types: Gold retail sticker or Silver 비매 (not for sale PROMOTION ALBUMS) sticker. It is important to note that, though most will, not every album will have a Komca sticker on it, even if it is a real copy and not a fake
That moment when u just bought a stray kids go signed album 👁👄👁
Did you buy it off Mnet?
If you did, it is positively real! Those albums are personaly signed by the idols. You have nothing to worry about, if you bought it directly off of Mnet.
Yo!HiTmAnBaNGIntRoDuCEs HiTit! Oh thank god
OMG EXACTLY ME TOO
Alondra Torres same🤡
The best way to get authentic signed albums is from mnet
I wanted to ask that just now but i come across yur comment♡♡thank you
NO, mnet is a snake
@@remy690 that isn’t the point? mwave signed albums are real and who cares if mnet are snakes because that doesn’t matter because what you want is a signed album and companies have signed album opportunities is to give fans happiness. mnet is just a distributor no point in trying to call them snakes for no apparent reason at the most random times ??
@@calvinabdullah5526 bruh stfu i got scammed by mwave
@@arisawonglamtong5745 welp bad for you
We get it, you have money but some people can’t afford a $2000 ticket to South Korea
100% agree
But you can buy it on mnet
@@sitti-aesthetic9757 yeah but he says to not buy from there yeah well I bought a signed everglow one and it’s real
exactly
@@nojobtoobig_nopuptoosmall mnet is reliable, i’ve bought from them twice
I can only get signed albums from mwave since I’m across the country and highly doubt I’ll ever get into a fansign if I had the time and money
I am going to fix that soon
Kenji Kumagai lol how
As someone who can’t afford to enter fansign events, let alone travel that far for them, I’ve recently bought a few signed things bc they are special to me in a way. All my signed items have come from official company stores or Mnet ! I have a signed SEVENTEEN album and there’s even marker stains on the back from them being signed and stacked, so I take it that the one I have is real. Along with that I have a signed Ten SuperM poster from the official SM online shop. I also have another signed poster on its way from SM and a signed TOO album from Mnet. I never buy signed items unless it’s coming from an official source of some kind. One day I would love to get something signed in person but as of now that’s not an option for me.
Selena Teeter SAME WITH MY VERIVERY ALBUM AND MY STRAY KIDS ALBUM! i recently ordered skz’s new comeback album from mwave too let’s see what mwave gives :)
Selena Teeter same with what i did with stray kids 😔 it’s gonna take a long time to come doe 😭😭😭
I’m buying one from a a girl but she has proof of the purchase of mwave
if you guys are looking for promo signed albums there is this eBay seller named handdollmaking you should check them out!
Is ktown4u good too?
I think this is video is a bit poorly thought out.
Instead of discouraging someone who may be a new collector, perhaps address the difficulties in getting signed items and things to consider if you do want to buy one. Allow someone to determine for themselves whether it is worth it or not.
While legitimacy is always a concern, it is completely possible to learn to determine authenticity. I will mention albums specifically because that's what i have the most experience with. If you just spend some time to learn the member's signatures, and do some research into the company, group, and specific eras where they are particularly busy, you will have a good indication of whether an album was signed by the members. There are plenty of fans who have studied the signatures of an artist or group over time, and it is completely possible to tell if an item is signed when a member is tired versus signed by a manager. The more you look at each signature, the more obvious it becomes. Of course, not everyone you could show a signature to is to be trusted in determining legitimacy. They should be able to pull up reference photographs and compare the signs, and explain their reasoning behind whether an album is legitimate or not.
Additionally, there are plenty of opportunities to buy albums sold by mwave or posters directly from the company. These are authentic. Soompi albums are not sold any more, but they're also a legit source.
Not everyone can go to a fansign, and not everyone wants to. Some people are totally fine with just owning something that their favorite artist has signed.
I encourage anyone who wants to buy signed merch or start collecting in general, it is just another way to show support for your group. My collection is almost exclusively signed albums and I enjoy each one of them :)
I agree.
Agree
Yes! Honestly some fans also can’t afford to buy however amount of albums that are necessary for the fansign. As of now, there’s video calls, but that can really become expensive near $500+ for an all member video fansign call or individual specific members. Signed albums are much cheaper and are definitely meaningful even if the collector didnt get a face to face interaction. 💖
its nt only "showing" but directly "giving" support to the artists and companies so yeah do you
I just bought a signed Mamamoo album for 80 dollars so thank u
when you were talking about how idols sometimes have people do there signatures for them i looked up at my signed poster on my wall and just kept staring at it making sure it was real
Was it?
I can't even afford an unsigned album
I don’t buy signed albums because I want to be the one to be there in person when my idols sign them. It probably won’t happen any time soon but I have hope of one day meeting BTS!😆 💜
Yes! Exactly!
Lol but it dont has disadvantages to buy a signed album xD If you get the chance to meet them in rl then you can sign again ;)
That’s the spirit gurl! 💜
you can do both tho..? as long as you didnt get the opportunity the get it signed you can buy a signed one and then go to the artist with another album. if you are able to meet the artist, that means you do have enough money to buy another unsigned album as well ( in most cases)
@A_tiny_San bts don’t put signed albums on mwave anymore, you would have to buy from resellers but I difficult to know if their albums are authentically signed or not because they’re so popular
me after just buying p1harmonys new album but signed 👁👄👁
I was very close to buy a signed album in the past but caught myself because I didnt think it was real. So lucky I didnt! Thank you for the video!
Thanks for watching!
When u just got the signed in 生 album: 👁👄👁
you did well, dont worry and thanks for suppoting skz financially
Damn I wish I could say, “maybe one day I can go get it signed myself”😂😂
hi! just discovered this video in my feed! as someone who has bought a signed album, i can assure you that they're authentic if they have a silver 비매/bimae sticker at the back of the album, indicating that they're from broadcast events! ^____^ sorry if i missed that in the video or anything! just to let anyone know in case you ever plan on getting signed merch but cannot attend fansigns! :)
Yes if you can’t attend any fan sign then I guess people have no choice
May I ask how about there is a 비매 sticker but there is no the words 'not for sale'? Is that real?
Could you maybe talk about special events and celebrations that only happen in korea? ❤❤❤ or things that someone moving to korea should know?
Ooh thank you for the idea!
I saw these signed photocards online imma buy them though even though they're fake but as a person who can't afford "real" merch I always buy fake merch I don't really care whether it's authentic or not but if it has good quality and a cheap price I will buy it😂😂😂
I mean you really have some valid points but I still keep buying signed sf9 stuff xD
I'm to young to travel to Korea and to get into a fansign even though I'd obviously really like too. I always ask the people I buy it from for proof because I just can't blindly trust them. But Ofc you can never be sure. And all those signed albums I have are really special to me and I'm so glad I bight them. 0 regrets
If you love it that all that counts!
@Its sernii hi fellow fantasy 👀
So happy to find a FANTASY here!!❤️
@@CaroNoir yess^^
Interesting! I like the idea of Table talk Thursday😆😆
Thank you babe!!
I wish I could do that but I feel this only applies to fans living in Korea/Japan and maybe USA.
my faves NEVER did a fansign in my country so my only choice is to buy it, otherwise I'll never get a signed album. however, I agree with you a lot forge signatures!
I see a lot ebay sellers trying to scam us intl fans *sigh* but thank god I have the eyes of a hawk when it comes to my faves signatures lol but still I only buy from Mwave which is 100% authentic
Oh, thanks. I wanted to buy the Stray kids new album and I saw that Mwave had signed one. But I didn´t new if It was a good a idea or a bad. But thank you
kpop stay get it asap before it's too late cuz they sell out quite fast, there's also an Meet&Greet event when you buy the album, make sure you check it out in case you win. it's genuine bc even the artists post on SNS to buy from Mwave
Very true! I only buy from mnet if I want a signed album. Especially because I can't personally get it signed. I live in Nevada, and K-pop idols hardly come here. I would have to waste more money to get into a fansign. Anyways, I bought my skz album and I'm waiting for it to get shipped😊
Yo!HiTmAnBaNGIntRoDuCEs HiTit! although with social distancing even video fansigns are hard to get in especially if you stan big groups! personally, I feel fansigns are worth it face to face.
I hope your albums arrive safely~
I’m hoping that one day I’ll be able to get into a fansign. 💛😔 Thanks for the info Kenji!
Yes! You will!
i dont buy signed stuff only cause it dont feel real. i didnt experience the signing. i dont feel the excitement when i see the sign cause i wasnt personally there to get it sign. so getting something signed would feel like a normal album to me
One of my friends was actually thinking about buying a signed bts album, so you made this video just in time 😊
I’m so glad! Thank you for watching!
such a great video~ glad you brought up fansigns at the end since there was a major issue in the atiny fandom (idk if it still goes on but it happens probably in all fandoms) when fans buy fan slots to have their album page signed and post it note question answered and the amount of fake slots and scammers was just nauseating. hence i urge anyone contemplating fan slots to be careful (make sure the person can even provide video proof they sat with each member and if they’ve had experience doing slots before) or just don’t support fan slots entirely because it’s gotten out of hand and i’ve had so many friends be scammed out of so much money (depending on the group fan slots can be close to $300).
There are so many bad people in the world 😭 thank you for watching!
Most of the time when I see someone selling a signed album, I'm suspicious as well, even when I see them in an official store like Tower Records who do genuinely get stuff signed and would probably ruin their reputation by forging. I did however buy a concert ticket + signed album bundle 'cause I don't think companies would watch event managements selling forged stuff from artists in combination with official tickets
Thank you for watching! But yea some companies do it anyways;;
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Yeah I personally never buy autographed albums unless it's from an official provider, and most of the times it is for the special PC/goodies. But to be honest the fansign experience is the best. Looking forward to the next table talk thursday~
Exactly! Thank you for watching!
Okay this is actually so informative!!! Thank you kenji for sharing it with us
Thank you for watching!
I hear you but I buy them anyway 😅😅 but mostly when it's a MakeStar project or through mwave.
Wow I always wanted a signed album but the way you explained it.. makes so much now🥺
Yay~ Thanks for watching!
I don't know why but the video on my recommendation has a title "my sign album collection" next to this video😐
In the past, I used to really want signed stuff from artists I listened to, but the more I think about it the less meaning it has. I'd rather spend the money going to a concert, because even if I can't talk to them or anything I still get the experience of seeing them preform. I understand why people go to fan signing, but if you just buy a signed album online its not really a meaningful experience.
Exactly!
Uuuuuu 😶 it's still fun and u have their signature so stfu
I mean, there’s no way my fav kpop artists will come to my city or country, or do a fansign here...participating on online fansigns is also impossible for me since I am a minor. So yeah, buying signed merch is the best option for me.
I wish my albums would be signed by my favorite artists in the future ✨✨💜💜💜
They will!!
yes, i am watching this after spending good dollars on an autographed album.
I would love to go fansign rather than signed album..
Exactly!
As for rather attending fan signs yourself than having friends or sellers attending in your place, yes it's a lot better to be able to go yourself, but I think it's a good alternative 'cause you still get to ask your questions or convey a message to them. It does depend on the price though if it's worth it. Friends usually don't ask for more then what they have to spend on album, packaging and shipping. Just my thoughts on that matter ^^
Yes! If you can trust them than yes!
Nochmal gefunden hehe
*When its 2AM and you see kenji uploaded*
what sleep?-
Noooo sleep comes first! Lol
This was good to know. I mean, I see signed things like this all over social medias, saying it's authentic. It raises red flags for me now, but like I said. It's nice to know about.
Thanks for watching!
I really agree on this.Now its logical for not to buy a signed merch.Thank you.Luv u ❤️
Thank you for watching!
I remember when superm had the FANSIGN and everyone wanted to purchase the signed albums from those that went and a lot of people were stealing the photos of the people selling their signed album.
Yes! You never know~
me looking at my shelf of signed albums 😟
If you'd rather not have a signed album, I'll take yours since I've been trying to get an ateez signed album anyways lol
I'm wondering about signed albums promoted by the artistes' company itself, that should be real? eg I got a signed #POISON album through mwave when #VAV had their comeback. cos it is unlikely that I could get to a fansign but if I did get to one, I would gather funds to buy another album for VAV to sign. 😆
If the company themselves sell them it should be real! But yes! The fansign experience!
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I've never forged a signature before,, this soul is free of forgery crimes^^
So purrree
awwww, i've always wanted a signed album... but I would love to meet BTs and you even more!
Thank you for watching!
You should absolutely buy signed albums if you can. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to personally receive signatures. Just do ur research, plenty of sellers are authentic.
That moment when you just bought a signed CD: 👁️👄👁️
What about that sticker in the back of the album? Doesn't that comfirm authenticity? The silver one
yes but anyone can buy a real album and forge a signature
Cant say that i agree. Lots of fans cant enter events or travel to meet them. Now the issue of genuine signatures is legit, but again, there can def be comparisons online to tell if it is legit.
I bought a P1 Harmony album signed by all the members at Mnet.....did I mess up🥺
No you did not Mnet are all real and not fake idols have done videos of them signing the albums and going to fan meets are very expensive so you did well
I’ve only bought signed items from mwave or the actual company. like Blackpink’s signed art card things. I see a lot of the korean sellers selling signed albums but I’m too anxious to spend so much money without knowing for sure 😭😭
I like this idea, I think you should talk about things that only really happen in Korea or that Korean people do, just an idea tho, you can talk about whatever you want tho
Thank you for the idea!!
i do agree if you are new to kpop then no its not good idea as you may not know what to buy but i think if u are willing to put time and effort into researching before you buy and are able confirm that its 100% real then i feel go for it
Only problem i have is the artist or the managers signing them 😭
I rather would have it signed in front of me because then I would be able to see my idols. I would also like work with idols but that’s probs not gonna happen ever. My parents never let me go to fan meets. 😔😔
Yes! Exactly! Hey you will someday!
I feel ya. I wasn't allowed to attend concerts or anything like that either, but luckily that time will pass and you'll be able to make your own decisions later^^ hang in there
You know like some people just don’t care if it’s not real signed they just want to but it
this is actually really helpful tbh, i know alot of kpop fans who want to buy signed albums, i shall share this vid with them
Thank you!!
I know this is 2 years too late but for those who might be coming here to watch this video. REAL authentic signed albums have a holographic sticker on the back 비매 (pronounced 'bimae') This guy is just a hater, buy them if authentic. We are all not traveling to Korea to be snubbed by other people for a signed album. Debbie downer
Thank you for your perspective Kenji! I have one other question! What about the signed merch that the artists companies sell themselves? Like for instance I bought the signed copies of NU’EST’s “The Table” albums that were signed by one random member. So I got JR’s signature. I also bought a signed VAV album once, before I had the chance to meet them. But the signed sales were promoted by the group themselves. Are those always legit? I know that’s getting into a tougher topic! Lol That said, I’d never just buy a signed album off eBay or Mercari, etc... 🤪
Oooh good question! I feel like the merch that the artist company sell themselves are usually genuine BUT you still miss out on the fansign experience! So personally I wouldn’t!
Kenji Kumagai smart thinking! I can totally see your point! Meeting VAV and getting my album signed in person was way better! I feel so blessed I was able to meet them in San Francisco before this lockdown started!
I live pay check to pay check and am only able to splurge maybe once a month or even two months and it can’t even be that big, so fan signs are a no.....
Not at me holding a group order for the skz signed in life album and I come across this 👁
literally all official signed albums have a special sticker/not for sale sticker so why even bother?
My signed mamamoo album has that
thank you soooo much for making this youtube video,, it helps alot !!! now I'll be more careful on buying these signed ablums !!! really appreciate !💜
Thank YOU for watching!
Its save to buy a signed album from Mnet
i’m getting mine from mwave so ik they’re snakes but from what i’ve seen they’re authentic
lol the face u made when u remembered the scolding ur parents gave u- 😂 so funny
Lol 😝
While it is very common to see fake signed merch, there are plenty of ways to get trustworthy signed merch that don't involve going to korea and applying for a fansign. I can't stress enough just how expensive it is to fly to korea, buy at least dozens (if not hundreds or thousands) of albums, just for the chance to get into a fansign. Most people don't have that kind of money to spend.
If anyone's interested, some alternatives are:
•joining a fansign group order
This is where a group order manager will split the cost of applying to a fansign into slots equal to the number of members so it's less expensive per person. For example I bought a chuu fansign slot that's personally signed to me for around ~100 cad. This option is more expensive than some others but WAY less expensive than if I were to apply for a fansign all by myself
•buying an album off mnet
Sometimes groups will offer signed albums off mnet. These are legitimately signed and usually aren't too much more expensive than a normal album
•buying promos from certain ebay sellers
For this, there's a lot more research you have to do but you can definitely get legitimately signed albums off ebay. Promo copies are albums given to people in the industry and are usually signed. Whether or not it's legitimately signed depends on the group. For example, mamamoo RARELY sign their albums in recent years (most are manager signed), whereas most nugu groups will. Do your research for this one. A great seller for signed albums is grapemusiccd, but there are a few others as well
Some more expensive but alternative options:
•applying for an online fansign
This will likely cost as much as applying for an in person fansign (sometimes maybe more) but at least you don't have to fly to korea
•polaroids
These are very expensive, but depending on the group could be less than a fansign. Polaroids are usually signed
Other ways to get signed stuff include contests, merch at concerts, etc
What to avoid:
Photocards are rarely signed. There are exceptions but do your research.
Random pictures are just about never signed.
Posters are rarely signed.
Signed albums that aren't a promo copy, from mnet, or a fansign are VERY rare.
tldr; you should do your research if you're looking to get signed stuff but to imply that you shouldn't get signed merch unless you go to a fansign and see it signed in front of you is just ridiculous imo. I hope this helps someone!
I've found most 'signed' Mamamoo albums on ebay are not signed by the members or their managers/staff, the members signatures are pre-stamped or pre-printed onto the album.
*Looks at my 100 fansigned albums*
I guess they're fake. ʕ•ٹ•ʔ
Waa i just found your channel last night. Your channel content are so interesting and informative. I guess I will be checking your channel every time then 😊
Thank you for the support!!
I love the videos playing on the TV!
I think people look for signed albums online because they aren’t able to experience the interaction with their idol and get a signed album. I know I can’t. But even tho is looks real you shouldn’t waist your money. Like there are people selling signed albums for over 200$ and it might even be fake. Never take the chance.
Yes! Thanks for watching!
My brother bought a signed BTS album for our youngest sibling. It's a bad idea because he spent too much money and I have someone checked the album, it's fake. So yeah, don't buy signed album. Save up for the event. Who knows
I just started just started watching your videos, I'm new but i really like that you put your own captions because youtubes subtitles are messy lol.
It’s hard work! But I think some people might need them!
I’ve wanted to buy signed albums before but the amount of times people get scammed or that it turns out fake is too many so I don’t 😔
Yes! Exactly!
Just buy them on an official siteweb like MWAVE ??
I wonder what this one will be ! Can't wait ! :)
Thank you!!
i don’t think you know how to look at signatures.... also do you not know MWAVE exists? 😂 like if you buy it from a random dude on ebay ofc its suspicious
I'm just saying "some companies" claim they are authentic and they are not~ because I know people who used to work at those companies who told me they were paid to forge before
but I haven't seen the inner works of Mwave so I dunno~
@@KenjiKumagai for MWAVE albums they're always signed by the artist. If they weren't they would be able to ship so much faster. Also you can always compare them with signatures that they gift their staff like their dance teacher. idols wouldn't gift a choreographer or hair stylist a fake signature. And also you can compare with polaroids, and albums from fansigns since some people will upload their photos of their signed album. signed albums from fansign obviously can't be fake when the idols sign it right in front of you. for my favorite group (iz*one) you can tell it's never manager signed. I have their mwave album from every era, multiple signed polaroids and i have gotten into 2 fansigns. Also IZ*ONE's signatures are more complicated so they're very easy to recognize if its fake.
I cannot afford fansigns at all, I’m a little too young to go and travel all the way to Korea. And cos of covid we can’t rlly go anywhere. I got a Taeyong superm signed poster off eBay for like £23. I asked the seller for proof of authenticity. She said it hasn’t been opened and showed the sm information stuff at the back. After looking at the poster, it probably does look like it’s rushed.
Even though I would pay anything to get my idol to sign my album in front of me, I feel like signed merch gives the equal experience minus the interactions. And your idol touched it SEE THATS THE BEST PART. My poster hasn’t come yet but will do someday, and I might buy another piece of signed merch another time but hopefully in the future I will go to a fansign.🥺
As for me who doesn't have a vast income and I rarely buy signed albums. Buying them is much easier than going to meet them in person if we can even try to afford it. Traveling to a different country especially korea is extremely expensive especially because they almost always have them there. I would LOVE to meet every single group I'm obsessed with but it is impossible for someone like me other other people that can't afford to travel even to a difference state. If I can afford it and if I'm lucky I will try for video call events where the artists sign the album, but not many will do video calls so for me if I see the opportunity to buy a legitimate album and I hope they are legit especially because I try to do as much research as a can I will buy signed albums if I feel comfortable with whatever amount I can afford. So yeah it is nice to have the experience but not all of us will get that chance as you mentioned the competition is high. I do understand it's your opinion and respect it but I feel for people like me who loves and support the artist not many of use will ever get the chance to meet them in the flesh.
Table talk Thursday ㅋㅋㅋ brilliant
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ thanks brooo
and that's why you have you buy signed albums by mwave :)
Exactly
Glad i watched this but i did buy a signed blackpink cd through they're official site a few weeks ago so im hoping its real
me after watching this video : damn he is right, why i never think about it
Then: hmmm im gonna be doctor after college, i can afford money from being a doctor
a couple of seconds later: realising that being a doctor will still take me more than 10 years and maybe twice is already disbanded
after that: i will ignore this and try to buy signed album later just once in a lifetime
What a great solution :)
Thank you! i needed that. it is really best if you have it signed by your idols directly
Glad it helped!
usually when i buy signed albums, i ask for them like example if they bought it from hello82 that they show me the sc of the order purchase so i see that its original! :D
I buy them either promo albums or from an official web (I've got mcnd's two signed albums otw from mmt? So I think I'll be fine but- skfjsks)
I'm getting some mcnd signed albums from a small business and I-
are they real?
@@gispants yes :)
I'm really excited about this one
Thank you!
There are signed kpop albums that are legit because of the print at the back stating “Not for Sale” :))
AYY! First!
I dont think I’m qualified to answer that question lol
Nagging people about getting stuff signed just 'cause they work in the industry seems wrong to me though... I feel it would be unprofessional. Work is work and not a fan sign session. No wonder they start forging stuff, when people keep annoying them
Yea, it’s pretty bad in korea
I bought two signed albums from cst in March and they send videos of signing proof and the albums are only like £20-35 so I recommend buying from there. Even if the signing is fake the albums are still cheap lmao
i still remember i brought(preordered) a heartiz album from a third party claiming to have in contact with OTR for the members to sign my album. the signatures were inside the album on each individual member's pages. I was pretty desperate and uneducated back then so I went ahead and brought it anyway (it was dead expensive). looking back, I shouldn't probably do that but oh well I at least have learned my lesson whether or not if the signatures were legitimate or not. ngl if the album wasn't legitimate the person who "scammed" me signed them well HAHA
What about the preorder signed albums from the official site? like for example for Twice's.
What about winning signed merch from official events? Are those considered real, or are still signed by managers? 😢
I just bought 3 but the seller had proof of other buyers so I can trust them and one I bought one on ebay and this Person had over thousand reviews soo
Ooh interesting...Thanks for the info😊💜
Thanks for watching!
wtf how'd you know i was gonna buy a signed ateez album @-@
Is it even possible to get it signed and watch how it was done by other way than going to fansign? :OO
Yeah I don't have the money to travel to Korea so might as well get as closer to my idols as i can by buying those signed albums
I have a “signed” BTS album that i about 2 years ago off ebay. I don’t want it anymore and I want to sell it. But I obviously don’t want to sell anyone a fake, I need money tho. I have no idea if it’s real or fake, I don’t want it.
This video is just for koreans, basically he said that maybe the album is not autentic, but theres mwave who sold autentic signed albums, and the 2nd reason was "to live the fansing experience", well...he is talking in english so this vid is for all people around the world, so, tell me, how do I go to there an get it signed? 😂 buy a signed album is the most accesible way to get one. So this vid just work for koreans or asian fans.
if you buy from mwave or kpoptown youre safe
I'm just saying "some companies" claim they are authentic and they are not~ because I know people who used to work at those companies who told me they were paid to forge before
but I haven't seen the inner works of Mwave so I dunno~
There will never be a sure way to tell if a signed album is genuine or not, but there are things you can do to help your self weed out fakes a ones ..
Get to know the signatures of your artists, that is a sure way to weed out fakes.
MNET/MWAVE is practically the only place i trust to buy signed albums from, My entire Collection of IZ*ONE signed albums are MWAVE .. obviously ive heard stories of Staffs signing for the artists and such but its just a rumor at best.
I've seen some really great signatures and ive seen some god awful signatures coming out of MWAVE but i put it down to the artists having SOOO many to sign they rush alot of the signatures and get sloppy when signing, maybe your sloppy one was one of the last ones your artist signed that day after signing 1000 copies ! .. anything is possible .
Buying from Ebay is a risky one .. like in the video states ... sellers forge normal albums and if there good at it they can fool you and make more money .. but i say if you happy with it and beleive its real then thats fine ...
Last one is if your buying a FULL OT signed album (meaning all signatures on one album) of ebay for instance or another sellers site ... , there is a sure way to tell if its good, if it has a "NOT FOR SALE" stamped on the back of the album ... these are signed by the artists them selfs (PROMOTION ALBUMS) and given out to media Execs and corporations relating to media as such to promote the group and they usually find there way in to some ones hands and on to ebay. Read up on the KOMCA sickers meanings ..
Komca is actually an abbreviation for the Korean Music Copyright Association, and these stickers are like a mark of authenticity. They come in two main different types: Gold retail sticker or Silver 비매 (not for sale PROMOTION ALBUMS) sticker. It is important to note that, though most will, not every album will have a Komca sticker on it, even if it is a real copy and not a fake