I think Rosie being the one that owns Alastor soul was so out there Especially since S1 E7 Rosie was really close with Alastor and they seemed like good friends with giving him advice for people who he could make deals with and also with the fact that Rosie even said to Alastor the day when he came to see Rosie she was like "Alastor where have you been?" Personally i just think it was really out there reveling that Rosie owns Alastor and i don't know how to feel about it to be honest
@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739Theory: I bet Lilith and alastor have nothing to do with each other maybe?? And they (writers/Vivziepop) made it seem like they do so they (fandom) suspect Lilith owning alastor soul although plot twist: it was Rosie so nobody suspected it was her, since Lilith owning alastor soul would be so obvious 🤷♀️
@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739 Ahh, the classic red herring strikes again! Bro just needed a break from Vox and the dudes not so subtle obsession with him😂😂
@@HandsomeFrederickFastbear Don’t read the Bible don’t u okk find Cain killed Abel first murder first death Abel still had sin but god likely wipe away Abel sins since he technically won meaning Abel is someone in heaven or not but he definitely not in hell bc he never did anything wrong
Yeah, the hallucination of Adam is DEFINITELY giving off some Dusttale Pap vibes. Sans was grieving after having to kill his brother, and thus imagined him fighting side by side with him, and Lute watched Adam die, meaning to cope, she’ll imagine he isn’t dead.
Rosie has to be someone else. She has to be Roo in civilian form or something. There's a whole theory that cannibals aren't really sinners, which would make sense here.
1:04 I think that we’re really underestimating Rosie’s potential. Some people have done digging on her character design / comparing it to a few others, and she may have a few secrets to pull out of her hat.
SPOILERS: I feel that Season 2 is leading up to something big with Alastor, like maybe a second and much larger breakdown. Like absolutely everything is going against Alastor in season 2 from what ive seen and its driving him up the wall. 1. We see Alastor looking into a mirror with his scar from Adam's battle. His hands are trembling and he is seen smoking a cigarette and drinking shots. 2. Lucifer being at the Hotel and teasing him made him give up and try to quit the Hotel entirely, which was very out of character. (I liked that Alastor's mug was labelled with "Duck season") 3. Then Rosie starts tormenting him on her ownership over his soul, tugging him around on a leash and making him recite the song. It seemingly isnt the first time he's had to sing it. 4. Then we see from the artwork and still frames that Alastor is going to get kidnapped by the Vees and humiliated by Vox, alongside Angel Dust who gets hypnotised at one point. What could go wrong? Thats four entire plots against Alastor that he is having to battle against. The nasty scar and humiliation of fleeing, Lucifer's presence egging him on at the Hotel he is being forced to stay at against his will, Rosie's torment and refusal to fix his staff and Vox targetting him. Even for someone like Alastor, theres only so much he can take and it will be interesting to see if his character crumbles from it all. It is eating away at his pride. He was already pulling his hair out in the finale of Season 1, it will probably get worse.
Okay bro, but alastor was never smoking a cigarette i think i never saw that, i only saw him drink but i was a bit surprised when i saw him drinking. Anyways i saw a full 10mins of the full scene or just part of the entire episode on TikTok and didn’t see alastor smoking
@ahoy2010 He was smoking! It's a little hard to spot but at the very start of the mirror scene he had a cigarette wedged in his fingers. You can hear him sucking it in then exhaling when he looks up at himself. It suprised me too, super uncharacteristic of him
@@CyberJiveCreations oh okay i checked again and i did see it, but didn’t see smoke going out of his mouth so like uhh so i wonder why not shown? Bro has to be stressed to be drinking AND smoking also i dont thik i could see well cuz of the black text so yeh
@@ahoy2010 That's fair! And it's not a finished piece of animation, it's only the storyboards and rough sketches at the moment. They probably intended to add the smoke in afterwards when the animation is complete. Hope that clears things up! And yeah I feel so bad for him. I saw a comment that said apparently Vivziepop stated that Alastor hates smoking a while ago? If that's true, then Alastor must be hitting rock bottom to resort to it now 🥲
I'm sorry, did you say KIDNAPPED? Yep, okay lol, I'm done. Dudes a freaking joke and, as far as I'm concerned, there's no coming back from that. Dude could kill Lucifer himself and it's not gonna matter. What a freaking load. Oh well, at least I've still got Lute XD
In an extended clip it was shown on n a flashback that Alastor sold is soul to Rosie when he was alive in order to secure his place as the most powerful sinner in hell (at the time of his death). Also in was a hallucination or hologram of Adam that was singing with Lute, Abel (Adam’s son) is shown later
@@animehypehouse5546 yeah I mean it doesn’t make any sense and that leak with Al selling his soul is real but it certainly couldn’t have been Rosie he was selling it to
Yeah…I also don’t wanna think Rosie owns Alastor’s soul… I mean…They had a nice relationship and now i just don’t know if it’s just because she owned his soul Besides, it still doesn’t explain why Alastor was missing in 7 years and when he showed up, Rosie’s reaction is like she didn’t know why or where he was too. If she really own his soul, it shouldn’t be hard to know or just simply bring him to her place.
I feel like the only person who likes the idea of Rosie owning Alastor's soul. She doesn't seem like the type, so it hints to some hidden depths we haven't seen from her. Also feels interesting in implying his friendliness with Rosie in episode 7 is exactly what he was telling Charlie about at the start of the episode. Putting on a smile so people can't see your true feelings. In this case, hiding his resentment towards Rosie for owning his soul and limiting what he can do. And putting on an act of being purely her friend would keep people from suspecting she owns his soul.
In that case, Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from their interactions and expressions that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
@@STKHub i know right, i doubt anyone expected it to be Rosie. There are those who thoughr it was either Zestial or Niffty too😂. Most popular theory is Lilith and Roo. Compared to all them, Rosie is the best theory
It’s just really lazy tie in to them both being cannibals. That’s pretty much the only thing to lean back on on this poor headcanon choice. Very disappointing imo
1. Rosie is a helluva woman and a very dangerous person. So, I'm not too surprised about the situation with Alastor. 2. There might be the possibility that Roo's presence is more felt than seen. 3. The Queen of Hell has been around for a very long time. At one point, she sang of resistance. Rosie could have been a fan of Lilith at one point.
if you look back Rosie seems to be very happy when the cannibals accept charile as their general "there dancing along their sining her song!" as if charile becoming a leader is something she really want and they start to talk about potential that they can "guide" so i assume rosie and by proxy alistor want to make sure charile take the throne for whatever reason and with Rosie giving Charile advice and acting as a mother figure to her she will clearly have some position of power by the queen of hell that will allow her to achive whatever goal she has.
SPOILER honestly makes A LOT of sense it's Rosie because it was out there If you really think about it. They did drop some hints. For once Alastor did say to Charlie to not let Rosie fool her and that she's the most dangerous person in hell, then he talked to Charlie about the power of a smile and that no one knows what hides behind it and who also seems to be always smiling, happy and jolly? Rosie. Its subtle but it was there
Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable if you really think about it judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown. Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
If you rewatch the Cannibaltown scenes you can actually see moments where his resentment peeks through. I’ve also noticed that he seems to be able to dilate his pupils at will to manipulate people/disguise his intentions-you see him do it around both Rosie and Charlie during Hell’s Greatest Dad
@@heresheis2063 I did actually expect Rosie to be much more of a sinister character than not at all, and was throwing around the idea (with my twin) that she owned Alastor's soul, mostly because of their duet in Ready for This and the fact that she was the first he went to when needing help with something big. However, I wasn't FULLY expecting Vivzie to go that route, because she is known to change her mind about character midway through things based on fan interpretations or fan reactions.
Rosie makes alot of sense and is a more fun answer than Lilith. Alastor is essentially a Wendigo demon and is well loved amongst cannibal demons so his ties to Rosie makes sense. Overal i feel bad for the fans who didn't want spoilers but man did i love that plot twist.
I suppose you're right. Lilith and Roo are the most popular theory but the most predictable and predictable is boring. Rosie is unexpected but this thoery would also suggest that Rosie is more than what is shown so far. All in all i still have a lot of questions. We may know who owns Alastor's soul but i still want to know the story about this.
@@ThatInternetGuy420 Not lazy. Lazy and boring is choosing Lilith. There's even less connection aside from apparent time of disappearance. Nothing more. Rosie has the same style and hunger as Alastor and there are more fun possibilities with her. Plus this stops people's weird notions that Alastor has actual parental feelings for Charlie. There's just so much more with this reveal.
@@ThatInternetGuy420 there are multiple connections bet. them like the fact they are both overlords, they both like old fashioned and also the fact Alastor became a cannibal AFTER he descended to hell and due to Rosie's influence. You wouldn't guess at first that Rosie could be the owner of Alastor's soul from their interactions but with a little bit of imagination and if you analyze Rosie's interactions with Alastor and how brazen they are, the hints are there.
1:14 how do we know Rosie isn’t actually Roo? Like, let’s be honest: how much do we actually know about her? In the backstory scene, it’s revealed that Rosie made her deal with Alastor while he was still alive, and he summoned her (at least in some form) through a ritual. First of all, I’m pretty sure if Sinners are restricted to the pride ring, they probably also can’t access earth. As well as that, if Rosie is an overlord, even if she’s a powerful one, how could she make Alastor one of the most powerful beings in hell? After finding out she owned him, I rewatched all their scenes together. She really seems to boss him around more than make friendly conversation, and a few times his smile even drops. And just imagine what a big twist that would be; Alastor must be owned by Lilith, or Roo, or some other big bad force that Charlie will have to face. But surely not Rosie, right? Not sweet, charming, charismatic little Rosie, the owner of a little flesh emporium? She couldn’t be the Root of all evil in disguise, could she? While it’s certainly not damning evidence, look at their designs, their color schemes. Notice any similarities?
2:52 well yes. A majority of the Ars Goetia are Fallen Angels in Demonology, including Stolas, the Great Prince of Hell. Even his father Paimon belonged to either the Order of Dominion or the Order of Cherubim.
2:18 that’s not Adam’s son, that’s Adam. Lute’s just imagining him. He says as such actually. His son, Able, does actually look pretty different, wearing a more marching band-esque attire, although he does at one point wear his father’s helmet. He’s a much different character, not liking war and seemingly either gay or just slightly feminine. For that matter, Able doesn’t really feel driven for revenge because he knows his dad never cared about him. He reluctantly has become the leader of the exorcists.
I'm actually working under the idea Rosie is just a show persona to Roo or Lilith. We've known for awhile that Rosie is a overlord BUT she isn't a sinner. At least, she is a soul that never died. So to me, this hints at Rosie being a more approachable disguise for a very powerful soul. Otherwise, how could a deal be made to make Alastor that powerful?
The gravity song is actualy between lute and the ghost of Adam that’s in her head adams son only shows up at the end of the song cause he heared lute loosing her mind! Yes abel does look like Adam but they have two different voice actors and if you look at Abel’s form when he wears the mask his horns are curled up like a rams horns while adams are straight back like blitz’s
About Rosie owns alastor, like you said other characters fitted more. I personally am kinda disappointed there, I really expected that Lilith, Eve or Zestial owned him.
Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers. This newly discovered relationship makes me wonder if Rosie is more than what is shown so far🤔
Now something I would like to see is Alastor and Roo being besties, because that's the exact inverse of what we were expecting to have. The popular theories were that either Roo or Lilith owns his soul and forced him to disappear for 7 years and presumably work for the hotel, with Rosie being the one to support him. With Rosie owning Alastor's soul and being behind his disappearance, why not have Roo be a friend of his, that can't really get too involved with the sinners, and thus, can't help him out of his deal, but is supportive in any way she can, maybe she gave him housing for those 7 years. Additionally, since the eyes on everything are often theorized to be Roo's way of seeing everything, that would explain why Alastor has one on his staff and why he's so stressed about it being broken, it was a present from an actual friend and a way for her to look out for him. Plus a cool plot for that episode could be Alastor going to Rosie to have his staff repaired, then the whole song and reveal happens, but when Rosie is out of sight and his staff is finally whole, he contacts Roo with it and goes to her for help with the actual huge injury he has, showcasing the actual difference in levels of trust he has between the two. Another thing I realized while re-watching Alastor's and Rosie's interactions, is just how obvious it seems in hindsight. She's not concerned at all about Alastor's disappearance, neither on the overlord meeting or in cannibal town, she scolds him and commands him to do things, but without the knowledge it just seems like a casual interaction between two friends, he follows her around and hands her things, for example her umbrella. Now my new headcanons are that when Alastor was describing Susan while looking at Rosie he was actually subtly insulting her and that the reason he immediately hates Lucifer is because both he and Rosie are people he can't control and seem to have a bit of a performance aesthetic, guy is projecting the things he would actually like to say to Rosie but can't. Rosie on the other hand could be feeling a bit guilty about the whole thing, judging from when she said "it can be difficult to admit to things you're not proud of, especially if those things hurt the ones you love".
One thing, i feel as if mimzy has a hidden role with an episode that will still revolve around rosie being the controller as mimzy knows one half of alastors story, its more likely she was a friend of alastor into control, but she had no care as she doesnt overreacts dire situations and makes it seem delusional and always has more care of alastor protecting her because hes powerful which may also conclude to mimzy also learning some of alastors story from rosie
I didn't see a lot of the leaks, but if I remember correctly, then "Adam's son" that sings with lute is actually Adam... to quote Lucifer: "You... you got something sticking out of your... your thing there..."
Alastor soul is owned a Rosie lute has a duet with adam we see alastor sell his soul to Rosie in a flash back sera has regrets on killing sinners abel is the leader the angel army
Technically Lute has a duet with her hallucination with Adam And I believe the one of Rosie owning Al is a deep fake made by Vivian herself in case these leaks did happen
@@fantasy-writer-v5z but why would they bother animating it, making a whole song with fully developed lyrics, and voice act it, just for it to be a deep fake
I had Rosie on my flipping bingo card, heck yes! it was so obvious the way she trusted him to never do her wrong and everyone says its more likely that niffty owned his soul than that xD
Correction: It's not Abel who sang in Like Gravity It's adam except It's just Lute's hallucination so the whole song is just Lute singing alone At the end of the song, Abel even looked at her confused 😭
Let it be. Let it be like this. I also did not see Lilith in those leaks so this is quite questionable. Vivziepop said on Instagram that these days have been devastating for her though.... so I just wish the best for her and her team
Roise being alastors owner is completely ruining any potential for a more interesting character to be naturally introduced like roo. Honestly that just ruins her character dang, after s2 I'm dropping this shit writing
Spoiler warning Alastor is actually the strongest overlord in hell,he is on a leash to Rosie cuz he made a deal with her so he can become the strongest sinner in hell,He is technically stronger than her too but can't do anything to her cuz of the leash,if he is off it he can beat her easily cuz she is below 2-3 overlords
Actually that's not entirely true, he's the strongest sinner in hell yes (according to Rosie) but Rosie isn't a sinner she wasn't human first. Notice they said specifically "sinner" and not "overlord". Rosie could very well be far more powerful than alastor. It wouldn't make sense Rosie just somehow plucks up power she doesn't have to make alastor more powerful than her.
@user-egghead098 she could have given most of her power to him,and as Alastor said in the finale he said that off the leash he will pull all the strings
@@a1saiyan382 Well assuming their contract becomes null it also means he wouldn't get power from her anymore, unless the contract changes rather than ceasing
I agree that Rosie was literally one of the worst choices. I would even go as far as saying that even theories of Niffty owning Alastors soul made more sense
Very good videos, despites the small errors you made. And the fact that Rosie owns the soul is kinda lame. Especially without seeing her fight and all, to prove her worth.
Spoiler: The archangel Sera sings with is called the Speaker of God. Seems like she’s basically God’s representative because Sera confesses her sin to her. Also, since Abel has been shown then I’m expecting Cain to appear as well. Maybe a cameo or he’ll show up in Season 3.
@@goldiefoggy Not exactly, it seems. Based on the name, God does exist in this universe and assigned that angel to speak in his place at court. You know, as representatives do.
While I’d like something to get psyched over, the angelic Goetia thing isn’t exactly new. During the Trial in Heaven if you look in the background you can see a mural of a bird-looking Angel/Seraphim, who I thought looked a lot like Stella but after seeing Sera’s true form I think it’s meant to be her
Also another leak. Sir pentious was in hell because he watched someone get killed and didn't do nothing about it, he kenw the killer but didn't do nothing. Honestly kinda mid
The killer was Jack the Ripper. Keep in mind, in Helluva Boss. A camp counselor witnessed a drug deal go down at his camp, got killed & sent to hell. So apparently witnessing a crime, gets you sent to hell
So they should have remade the pilot and made it episode 1 and maybe 2 if needed. as it the show is reliant on people having watched it but because it is partly uncanon.
Okay, I'm going to do the whole spoilers behind the tab thing as I discuss these. . . . . Alastor is under contract... With Rosie?! Pfft! I love that! Everybody assumed it was Lilith, but having it be Rosie means it runs even deeper than that. It also explains how it is that Husk even knew that: Because Alastor has been under contract for as long as Husk has known him. But it also makes it that much more intriguing that Alastor appeared at the Hazbin Hotel in Season 1, which he did right after Charlie called Lilith. This might imply that Rosie has a connection to Lilith, or that Alastor explicitly went to the Hotel as part of a plot to get out of his contract. So if that Russian hacker was hoping to ruin Hazbin Hotel, he just did the exact opposite for me. Not sure how I feel about Adam having a son. That sounds like a cheap way to just throw in another villain. I figured Sera and Emily would fight over Pentious, but I figured it would be about whether or not to confirm that he had entered Heaven, with Sera arguing that they should keep it a secret until things calmed down and/or they had reliable information, not that he should be sent back to Hell even though he's clearly taken on an angelic form. Not even remotely surprised to hear they're going to ad an archangel to the mix. The archangels are among the most well-known in Biblical mythology, and more than that, were essentially described as supposed to be doing what the exorcist angels were doing. I already predicted they would touch on this, and my expectation was that they would introduce the archangels as defenders of Heaven, and that at least one of them (Michael or Gabriel being the two most famous) would show a lot of contempt for the exorcists, would have no sympathy for Adam, and would point out that it's entirely the fault of the exorcists that Hell is now armed with angelic steel and has any capacity to kill angels at all now.
@@heresheis2063 I mean its very clear to me that Rosie = Roo, but still, the Alastor i saw in the leaks was petty much the opposite of what we saw in the first season... i mean come on, he cant even fix his staff on his own now...
I had a feeling rosie was hiding smth but definitely didn't expect that, honestly im excited bc i never liked the roo or lilith theories and rosie would be a crazy af plot twist, making her even more loveable
Yeah, the Rosie thing is true. My friend is on TikTok and she likes has hotel like I do and she sent me a TikTok. I didn’t know what the TikTok was at first, but then I looked at it after watching it and it was oh yeah, one of the leaked clips of a storyboard.
Eh.... seriously? Rosie? Ugh... honestly kinda lame. I mean... how? Why? Takes away the whole overpowered overlord persona of alastor, hust so that another overlord owna him.
Adam has three sons. Cain, Abel and Seth. Seth is the youngest son. Abel is the son that died and the middle child. Cain is the oldest son. Cain killed his own brother but I think he will want to make amends with his brother, Abel. Seth never knew both of them. Seth could possibly be the one that just like Adam. If Cain wants to make amends would he go around and kill everyone? The answer is No. Here is one question: how did Adam became the first human soul in heaven? Abel was the first one to die. Abel could have chosen between Hell and Heaven. Abel must have chosen Hell. Did Cain ever wanted to kill his own brother? No he never wanted to kill his own brother. I don't think Cain will kill again. So Cain and Abel are out of the picture on this one. Seth is the obvious answer but the obvious answer is never the correct answer. Edit: or it was just Adam's spirit.
I feel like we’re gonna get way more information about Alastor and Rosie, it makes their dynamic a little more interesting since it makes a lot of Alastor scenes look way more like he’s a little thankful but still very resentful of Rosie.
⚠️SPOILERS⚠️ The archangel Sera is seen singing with is called the “Speaker of God”. She came down to find the truth of how sir pentious got redeemed. Sir pentious then explains his backstory. The reason he went to hell is because he witnessed a murder and didn’t do anything about it. And the murderer went on to commit 5 more ( I think he was referring to Jack the Ripper because sir pentious said he was in London).
I still believe in Sinner Adam. Had the show stuck to a seasons then leaving Adam as a hallucination makes more sense. But I definitely think that Lute will find Adam and he's just vibing or something. I don't trust his kid at all. He's going to be trouble big time and I wouldn't be surprised if Adam is shown in Hell q8th Cain.
1:15 That is dumb, Rosie is the last person you who think off also how the heck does Al getting his staff replaced tie into her owning him? THAT'S JUST ASKING SOMEONE FOR A FAVOR! Also in my opinion there was no point to introduce in Abel don’t get me wrong it’s cool just why? 4:09 I hope not, I'm just gonna say Katie has bad memory, also is Viv just done with the pilots of her shows? We wouldn't had the series without em
Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown.Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
@@nyrhine9664i suppose, that twist was DEFINITELY unexpected. It would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown so far. And there's still the seven year absence of him and Lilith. That couldn't be a coincidence, right?
I couldn’t help myself in watching so spoilers: Honestly it’s hard to tell if Alastor isn’t stronger and the only thing keeping him from being above her, is the string she has on him and his soul. After all she said he’d be THE strongest sinner and they succeeded because he was erasing the real big shot overlords, ever since he spawned in as a sinner at the time before ascending to being one himself. So it’s hard to tell if he wouldn’t be stronger than Rosie if he could resist (which he can’t due to her owning his soul)
its adam not his son in the song. adam reappears in a kind of ghost form which shouldnt be as hb said ghosts doesnt exists, but the whole s2 is just bad ab details and canon stuff. theres a leak when adam talks to his son.
1st! Can I get pinned!?
Alastor soul is owned a Rosie
lute has a duet with adam
we see alastor sell his soul to Rosie in a flash back
sera has regrets on killing sinners
@@hex-i4q Not Lute and Adam, is it? Heard it was Adam's son.
Pinned!
The geisha looking thing was the speaker of god
Quit spoiling the show bro I didn't know Rosie owned alastor soul thx ashole
That wasn’t Adam’s son Lute was singing with, that’s Adam himself but either he’s a ghost or is in Lute’s head
A ghost? how?
She's just crazy, she have visions of adam even though hes dead its in her head
I still hope that he comes back as a sinner :p
@@Omnisix he was killed by angelic weapon so i think its very little possibility but that song with lute and "him" was really something
I think it is an hologram
I think Rosie being the one that owns Alastor soul was so out there
Especially since S1 E7 Rosie was really close with Alastor and they seemed like good friends with giving him advice for people who he could make deals with and also with the fact that Rosie even said to Alastor the day when he came to see Rosie she was like "Alastor where have you been?"
Personally i just think it was really out there reveling that Rosie owns Alastor and i don't know how to feel about it to be honest
IKR! it feels like they said “It’s going to be Rosie because nobody suspects her” but, then where does the 7 years abcense of Alastor and Lilith go?
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@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739Theory: I bet Lilith and alastor have nothing to do with each other maybe?? And they (writers/Vivziepop) made it seem like they do so they (fandom) suspect Lilith owning alastor soul although plot twist: it was Rosie so nobody suspected it was her, since Lilith owning alastor soul would be so obvious 🤷♀️
@@dianitalittlecupcaketurtle3739 Ahh, the classic red herring strikes again!
Bro just needed a break from Vox and the dudes not so subtle obsession with him😂😂
2:20 It is NOT Adam's son(Abel). Lute is just hallucinating Adam in her head. Abel does appear in the end of the song though.
Isnt like Avel also in hell after Cain killed him in the original mythology
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Don’t read the Bible don’t u okk find Cain killed Abel first murder first death Abel still had sin but god likely wipe away Abel sins since he technically won meaning Abel is someone in heaven or not but he definitely not in hell bc he never did anything wrong
its a ghost kind of thing bc everyone sees him not only lute.
Yeah, the hallucination of Adam is DEFINITELY giving off some Dusttale Pap vibes. Sans was grieving after having to kill his brother, and thus imagined him fighting side by side with him, and Lute watched Adam die, meaning to cope, she’ll imagine he isn’t dead.
@BlazeFiresoul she knows adam is dead even when she imagines him.
Rosie has to be someone else. She has to be Roo in civilian form or something. There's a whole theory that cannibals aren't really sinners, which would make sense here.
Nah man you’re just going through the five stages of grief jk
GOD im praying that Rosie isnt who she says she is. CAUSE HOW DOES A HELLBORN OVERLORD HAVE SO MUCH POWER?!
@Dray_4_0_5 Right? And she knows so much about Alastor. She shouldn't have known so much if he isn't keen to revel on the past.
@@Dray_4_0_5 they’re hellborn. They know this place and how it works better than sinners
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According to a Leak, Lilith is disguised as Rosie.
1:04 I think that we’re really underestimating Rosie’s potential. Some people have done digging on her character design / comparing it to a few others, and she may have a few secrets to pull out of her hat.
SPOILERS:
I feel that Season 2 is leading up to something big with Alastor, like maybe a second and much larger breakdown. Like absolutely everything is going against Alastor in season 2 from what ive seen and its driving him up the wall.
1. We see Alastor looking into a mirror with his scar from Adam's battle. His hands are trembling and he is seen smoking a cigarette and drinking shots.
2. Lucifer being at the Hotel and teasing him made him give up and try to quit the Hotel entirely, which was very out of character. (I liked that Alastor's mug was labelled with "Duck season")
3. Then Rosie starts tormenting him on her ownership over his soul, tugging him around on a leash and making him recite the song. It seemingly isnt the first time he's had to sing it.
4. Then we see from the artwork and still frames that Alastor is going to get kidnapped by the Vees and humiliated by Vox, alongside Angel Dust who gets hypnotised at one point. What could go wrong?
Thats four entire plots against Alastor that he is having to battle against. The nasty scar and humiliation of fleeing, Lucifer's presence egging him on at the Hotel he is being forced to stay at against his will, Rosie's torment and refusal to fix his staff and Vox targetting him. Even for someone like Alastor, theres only so much he can take and it will be interesting to see if his character crumbles from it all. It is eating away at his pride. He was already pulling his hair out in the finale of Season 1, it will probably get worse.
Okay bro, but alastor was never smoking a cigarette i think i never saw that, i only saw him drink but i was a bit surprised when i saw him drinking. Anyways i saw a full 10mins of the full scene or just part of the entire episode on TikTok and didn’t see alastor smoking
@ahoy2010 He was smoking! It's a little hard to spot but at the very start of the mirror scene he had a cigarette wedged in his fingers. You can hear him sucking it in then exhaling when he looks up at himself. It suprised me too, super uncharacteristic of him
@@CyberJiveCreations oh okay i checked again and i did see it, but didn’t see smoke going out of his mouth so like uhh so i wonder why not shown? Bro has to be stressed to be drinking AND smoking also i dont thik i could see well cuz of the black text so yeh
@@ahoy2010 That's fair! And it's not a finished piece of animation, it's only the storyboards and rough sketches at the moment. They probably intended to add the smoke in afterwards when the animation is complete. Hope that clears things up!
And yeah I feel so bad for him. I saw a comment that said apparently Vivziepop stated that Alastor hates smoking a while ago? If that's true, then Alastor must be hitting rock bottom to resort to it now 🥲
I'm sorry, did you say KIDNAPPED?
Yep, okay lol, I'm done. Dudes a freaking joke and, as far as I'm concerned, there's no coming back from that. Dude could kill Lucifer himself and it's not gonna matter. What a freaking load.
Oh well, at least I've still got Lute XD
In an extended clip it was shown on n a flashback that Alastor sold is soul to Rosie when he was alive in order to secure his place as the most powerful sinner in hell (at the time of his death).
Also in was a hallucination or hologram of Adam that was singing with Lute, Abel (Adam’s son) is shown later
Not just at the time. Rosie directly confirms he IS the strongest sinner, present tense.
He still is the strongest sinner in hell,Zestial is older than him and he is said to be the strongest overlord(before Alastor came)
@@STKHubIt would make sense only cause Alastor seems to fake happy emotion near Rosie I can see inside of him is annoyed as hell
It is just a hallucination if Lute
Abel is shown to be a lot more laidback and "not-give-a-fucky" than Adam.
Yeah, I'm thinking Adam is a figment of Lute's imagination, she loved him so much her mind shattered when he died
Adel seems alot less annoying then Adam
@@LitbolbWdym, Adam was amazing.
I’m calling it the one with Al and Rosie is a deep fake made by Vivian herself in the event these leaks happen just to throw everyone off
I hope so
@@animehypehouse5546 yeah I mean it doesn’t make any sense and that leak with Al selling his soul is real but it certainly couldn’t have been Rosie he was selling it to
Yeah…I also don’t wanna think Rosie owns Alastor’s soul…
I mean…They had a nice relationship and now i just don’t know if it’s just because she owned his soul
Besides, it still doesn’t explain why Alastor was missing in 7 years and when he showed up, Rosie’s reaction is like she didn’t know why or where he was too.
If she really own his soul, it shouldn’t be hard to know or just simply bring him to her place.
it wasn’t AI because if it was AI then it would be a little distorted but it wasn’t
Really bro? You’re coping.
I feel like the only person who likes the idea of Rosie owning Alastor's soul. She doesn't seem like the type, so it hints to some hidden depths we haven't seen from her. Also feels interesting in implying his friendliness with Rosie in episode 7 is exactly what he was telling Charlie about at the start of the episode. Putting on a smile so people can't see your true feelings. In this case, hiding his resentment towards Rosie for owning his soul and limiting what he can do. And putting on an act of being purely her friend would keep people from suspecting she owns his soul.
It kinda fits, but then Zestial can own his soul and it'd be equally as compelling.
In that case, Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from their interactions and expressions that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
@@STKHub i know right, i doubt anyone expected it to be Rosie. There are those who thoughr it was either Zestial or Niffty too😂. Most popular theory is Lilith and Roo. Compared to all them, Rosie is the best theory
Yes I’m actually happy that got leaked omg
It’s just really lazy tie in to them both being cannibals. That’s pretty much the only thing to lean back on on this poor headcanon choice. Very disappointing imo
1. Rosie is a helluva woman and a very dangerous person. So, I'm not too surprised about the situation with Alastor.
2. There might be the possibility that Roo's presence is more felt than seen.
3. The Queen of Hell has been around for a very long time. At one point, she sang of resistance. Rosie could have been a fan of Lilith at one point.
It would make sense only cause Alastor seems to fake happy emotion near Rosie I can see inside of him is annoyed as hell
if you look back Rosie seems to be very happy when the cannibals accept charile as their general "there dancing along their sining her song!" as if charile becoming a leader is something she really want and they start to talk about potential that they can "guide" so i assume rosie and by proxy alistor want to make sure charile take the throne for whatever reason and with Rosie giving Charile advice and acting as a mother figure to her she will clearly have some position of power by the queen of hell that will allow her to achive whatever goal she has.
Well actually, the guy in a song is Adam but only in Lutes imaginarion
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honestly makes A LOT of sense it's Rosie because it was out there If you really think about it. They did drop some hints. For once Alastor did say to Charlie to not let Rosie fool her and that she's the most dangerous person in hell, then he talked to Charlie about the power of a smile and that no one knows what hides behind it and who also seems to be always smiling, happy and jolly? Rosie. Its subtle but it was there
Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable if you really think about it judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown. Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
If you rewatch the Cannibaltown scenes you can actually see moments where his resentment peeks through. I’ve also noticed that he seems to be able to dilate his pupils at will to manipulate people/disguise his intentions-you see him do it around both Rosie and Charlie during Hell’s Greatest Dad
@@heresheis2063 I did actually expect Rosie to be much more of a sinister character than not at all, and was throwing around the idea (with my twin) that she owned Alastor's soul, mostly because of their duet in Ready for This and the fact that she was the first he went to when needing help with something big. However, I wasn't FULLY expecting Vivzie to go that route, because she is known to change her mind about character midway through things based on fan interpretations or fan reactions.
It’s not Abel in the song, it’s Adam’s ghost/memory
Rosie makes alot of sense and is a more fun answer than Lilith. Alastor is essentially a Wendigo demon and is well loved amongst cannibal demons so his ties to Rosie makes sense.
Overal i feel bad for the fans who didn't want spoilers but man did i love that plot twist.
I suppose you're right. Lilith and Roo are the most popular theory but the most predictable and predictable is boring. Rosie is unexpected but this thoery would also suggest that Rosie is more than what is shown so far. All in all i still have a lot of questions. We may know who owns Alastor's soul but i still want to know the story about this.
Was super lazy and uninspired imo, only connection they have is cannibalism. Pretty dumb
@@ThatInternetGuy420 Not lazy. Lazy and boring is choosing Lilith. There's even less connection aside from apparent time of disappearance. Nothing more. Rosie has the same style and hunger as Alastor and there are more fun possibilities with her. Plus this stops people's weird notions that Alastor has actual parental feelings for Charlie. There's just so much more with this reveal.
@@ThatInternetGuy420 there are multiple connections bet. them like the fact they are both overlords, they both like old fashioned and also the fact Alastor became a cannibal AFTER he descended to hell and due to Rosie's influence. You wouldn't guess at first that Rosie could be the owner of Alastor's soul from their interactions but with a little bit of imagination and if you analyze Rosie's interactions with Alastor and how brazen they are, the hints are there.
Alastor being owned by Rosie considering how nice of a relationship they have, vs how he treats Husker says a lot
1:14 how do we know Rosie isn’t actually Roo? Like, let’s be honest: how much do we actually know about her?
In the backstory scene, it’s revealed that Rosie made her deal with Alastor while he was still alive, and he summoned her (at least in some form) through a ritual. First of all, I’m pretty sure if Sinners are restricted to the pride ring, they probably also can’t access earth. As well as that, if Rosie is an overlord, even if she’s a powerful one, how could she make Alastor one of the most powerful beings in hell?
After finding out she owned him, I rewatched all their scenes together. She really seems to boss him around more than make friendly conversation, and a few times his smile even drops.
And just imagine what a big twist that would be; Alastor must be owned by Lilith, or Roo, or some other big bad force that Charlie will have to face. But surely not Rosie, right? Not sweet, charming, charismatic little Rosie, the owner of a little flesh emporium? She couldn’t be the Root of all evil in disguise, could she?
While it’s certainly not damning evidence, look at their designs, their color schemes. Notice any similarities?
They also have similar smiles
2:52 well yes. A majority of the Ars Goetia are Fallen Angels in Demonology, including Stolas, the Great Prince of Hell. Even his father Paimon belonged to either the Order of Dominion or the Order of Cherubim.
Yep, his point.
Abel doesn’t sing Gravity with Lute, that’s Adam and Lute is just hallucinating seeing Adam
2:18 that’s not Adam’s son, that’s Adam. Lute’s just imagining him. He says as such actually. His son, Able, does actually look pretty different, wearing a more marching band-esque attire, although he does at one point wear his father’s helmet. He’s a much different character, not liking war and seemingly either gay or just slightly feminine. For that matter, Able doesn’t really feel driven for revenge because he knows his dad never cared about him. He reluctantly has become the leader of the exorcists.
I'm actually working under the idea Rosie is just a show persona to Roo or Lilith. We've known for awhile that Rosie is a overlord BUT she isn't a sinner. At least, she is a soul that never died.
So to me, this hints at Rosie being a more approachable disguise for a very powerful soul. Otherwise, how could a deal be made to make Alastor that powerful?
The gravity song is actualy between lute and the ghost of Adam that’s in her head adams son only shows up at the end of the song cause he heared lute loosing her mind! Yes abel does look like Adam but they have two different voice actors and if you look at Abel’s form when he wears the mask his horns are curled up like a rams horns while adams are straight back like blitz’s
2:22 isnt it like an adam delusion or something from lute?
Yea I believe so
About Rosie owns alastor, like you said other characters fitted more. I personally am kinda disappointed there, I really expected that Lilith, Eve or Zestial owned him.
Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers. This newly discovered relationship makes me wonder if Rosie is more than what is shown so far🤔
I have seen the leak for Pen's trail and....wow. The criteria to get into Heaven is FUCKING, EXTERAMLY strict.
Now something I would like to see is Alastor and Roo being besties, because that's the exact inverse of what we were expecting to have. The popular theories were that either Roo or Lilith owns his soul and forced him to disappear for 7 years and presumably work for the hotel, with Rosie being the one to support him. With Rosie owning Alastor's soul and being behind his disappearance, why not have Roo be a friend of his, that can't really get too involved with the sinners, and thus, can't help him out of his deal, but is supportive in any way she can, maybe she gave him housing for those 7 years. Additionally, since the eyes on everything are often theorized to be Roo's way of seeing everything, that would explain why Alastor has one on his staff and why he's so stressed about it being broken, it was a present from an actual friend and a way for her to look out for him. Plus a cool plot for that episode could be Alastor going to Rosie to have his staff repaired, then the whole song and reveal happens, but when Rosie is out of sight and his staff is finally whole, he contacts Roo with it and goes to her for help with the actual huge injury he has, showcasing the actual difference in levels of trust he has between the two.
Another thing I realized while re-watching Alastor's and Rosie's interactions, is just how obvious it seems in hindsight. She's not concerned at all about Alastor's disappearance, neither on the overlord meeting or in cannibal town, she scolds him and commands him to do things, but without the knowledge it just seems like a casual interaction between two friends, he follows her around and hands her things, for example her umbrella. Now my new headcanons are that when Alastor was describing Susan while looking at Rosie he was actually subtly insulting her and that the reason he immediately hates Lucifer is because both he and Rosie are people he can't control and seem to have a bit of a performance aesthetic, guy is projecting the things he would actually like to say to Rosie but can't. Rosie on the other hand could be feeling a bit guilty about the whole thing, judging from when she said "it can be difficult to admit to things you're not proud of, especially if those things hurt the ones you love".
I wish someone like Lilith was Alastor's master, cuz like, Al and Rosie are supposed to be besties and it kills the whole vibe!
One thing, i feel as if mimzy has a hidden role with an episode that will still revolve around rosie being the controller as mimzy knows one half of alastors story, its more likely she was a friend of alastor into control, but she had no care as she doesnt overreacts dire situations and makes it seem delusional and always has more care of alastor protecting her because hes powerful which may also conclude to mimzy also learning some of alastors story from rosie
I didn't see a lot of the leaks, but if I remember correctly, then "Adam's son" that sings with lute is actually Adam... to quote Lucifer: "You... you got something sticking out of your... your thing there..."
Lute wasn't singing with Able. She was hallucinating and she saw Adam so... Yeah, it was a duet with Adam and Lute
Maybe Rosie is Roo???? Hmmm...???? 🧐 And what is the deal about Alastor and Lilith absent for seven years???
That is what I thought too! Roo is a shape shifter
Vivziepop said no character will be disguised as another so they are different characters.
Alastor soul is owned a Rosie
lute has a duet with adam
we see alastor sell his soul to Rosie in a flash back
sera has regrets on killing sinners
abel is the leader the angel army
Rosie owning his soul was the biggest plot
Technically Lute has a duet with her hallucination with Adam
And I believe the one of Rosie owning Al is a deep fake made by Vivian herself in case these leaks did happen
@@fantasy-writer-v5z I really hope its fake.
@@Not_SageRBX Yeah 😭
@@fantasy-writer-v5z but why would they bother animating it, making a whole song with fully developed lyrics, and voice act it, just for it to be a deep fake
I had Rosie on my flipping bingo card, heck yes! it was so obvious the way she trusted him to never do her wrong and everyone says its more likely that niffty owned his soul than that xD
Lute was just hallucinating Adam not Abel.
Correction: It's not Abel who sang in Like Gravity
It's adam except It's just Lute's hallucination so the whole song is just Lute singing alone
At the end of the song, Abel even looked at her confused 😭
In the dong it's actually not Adam's son but an hallucination of Lute. It's supposed to be Adam. Abel is shown after the song
I'll just say this: as long as Baxter doesn't come up in the leaked threads, for me all of this that was leaked IS NOT CANONICAL.
Let it be. Let it be like this. I also did not see Lilith in those leaks so this is quite questionable. Vivziepop said on Instagram that these days have been devastating for her though.... so I just wish the best for her and her team
@@goldiefoggyi saw lilith in the leaks, she got a call from lute
Ima post it on my yt later today its 10min then ima post a full 25 min episode
Roise being alastors owner is completely ruining any potential for a more interesting character to be naturally introduced like roo. Honestly that just ruins her character dang, after s2 I'm dropping this shit writing
Shit writing, jeez, just because you don't like something?
MAYBE rosie is roo? Who knows what roo is capeble of yk?
s1 already has shit writing, but i would wait until s2 drops and see what it's like, leaks aren't reliable for what it's really going to look like
I still wish they dropped the whole Heaven plot and actually focused first and foremost about, y‘know, *Hell and the Hotel?*
Spoiler warning
Alastor is actually the strongest overlord in hell,he is on a leash to Rosie cuz he made a deal with her so he can become the strongest sinner in hell,He is technically stronger than her too but can't do anything to her cuz of the leash,if he is off it he can beat her easily cuz she is below 2-3 overlords
Actually that's not entirely true, he's the strongest sinner in hell yes (according to Rosie) but Rosie isn't a sinner she wasn't human first. Notice they said specifically "sinner" and not "overlord". Rosie could very well be far more powerful than alastor. It wouldn't make sense Rosie just somehow plucks up power she doesn't have to make alastor more powerful than her.
@user-egghead098 she could have given most of her power to him,and as Alastor said in the finale he said that off the leash he will pull all the strings
@@a1saiyan382 Well assuming their contract becomes null it also means he wouldn't get power from her anymore, unless the contract changes rather than ceasing
@@user-egghead098 she already gave him enough power
Dude omg Lute was singing with Adam she imagined not Abel he was just peeping!
It was a spng beetween lute and adam actually. Adam is a ghost
It would be funny if somehow, someway, Adam's son is actually just Adam from the past 😂
sir pentious goated, and im not too against the alastor rosie relationship, also the as goeisha stocks through the roof!!
Well I was shocked to see Sir Pentious with his Egg Bois in Heaven!
Yes, some of them got in
damn.. i feel bad for viv and her team, I'm sure they worked hard and feel terrible right now
Spoilers and leaks are terrible. I hope everything turns out well for them.
I agree that Rosie was literally one of the worst choices. I would even go as far as saying that even theories of Niffty owning Alastors soul made more sense
Very good videos, despites the small errors you made.
And the fact that Rosie owns the soul is kinda lame. Especially without seeing her fight and all, to prove her worth.
I didn’t have all the info while making this sadly
Im calling it Roo is Rosie
Remember me
This kinda kills the relationship between rosie and alastor, it's kinda wrong
I knew there was something bout that woman I didn't trust.
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The archangel Sera sings with is called the Speaker of God. Seems like she’s basically God’s representative because Sera confesses her sin to her.
Also, since Abel has been shown then I’m expecting Cain to appear as well. Maybe a cameo or he’ll show up in Season 3.
So, she was basically talking to... God?
@@goldiefoggy Not exactly, it seems. Based on the name, God does exist in this universe and assigned that angel to speak in his place at court. You know, as representatives do.
Ugh now im scared when season two comes out theres gonna be so much more haters and im scared of getting harassed on tiktok
Just block them. You'll be good. Trust.
@@STKHub still it's scaryy
While I’d like something to get psyched over, the angelic Goetia thing isn’t exactly new. During the Trial in Heaven if you look in the background you can see a mural of a bird-looking Angel/Seraphim, who I thought looked a lot like Stella but after seeing Sera’s true form I think it’s meant to be her
And people were so fixated about Lilith and Alastor 😂
Also another leak. Sir pentious was in hell because he watched someone get killed and didn't do nothing about it, he kenw the killer but didn't do nothing. Honestly kinda mid
The killer was Jack the Ripper.
Keep in mind, in Helluva Boss. A camp counselor witnessed a drug deal go down at his camp, got killed & sent to hell.
So apparently witnessing a crime, gets you sent to hell
@@Karlos1234ifyjack the ripper? Broo we just got a spezial guest from black clover
@@Karlos1234ify I think people get sent to he'll because they didn't do anything to help, not because they witnessed crimes
@@Cat888-qc2fs True enough.
So they should have remade the pilot and made it episode 1 and maybe 2 if needed. as it the show is reliant on people having watched it but because it is partly uncanon.
The lute song was with Adam just he’s a hallogram
Vivi.. GIVE HUSK MORE SCREENTIME I BEG OF YOU😭😭
I BEG OF HER THAT SHE MAKES ANGEL AND HUSK OFFICIAL
@ they are lol
Okay, I'm going to do the whole spoilers behind the tab thing as I discuss these.
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Alastor is under contract... With Rosie?! Pfft! I love that! Everybody assumed it was Lilith, but having it be Rosie means it runs even deeper than that. It also explains how it is that Husk even knew that: Because Alastor has been under contract for as long as Husk has known him. But it also makes it that much more intriguing that Alastor appeared at the Hazbin Hotel in Season 1, which he did right after Charlie called Lilith. This might imply that Rosie has a connection to Lilith, or that Alastor explicitly went to the Hotel as part of a plot to get out of his contract. So if that Russian hacker was hoping to ruin Hazbin Hotel, he just did the exact opposite for me.
Not sure how I feel about Adam having a son. That sounds like a cheap way to just throw in another villain.
I figured Sera and Emily would fight over Pentious, but I figured it would be about whether or not to confirm that he had entered Heaven, with Sera arguing that they should keep it a secret until things calmed down and/or they had reliable information, not that he should be sent back to Hell even though he's clearly taken on an angelic form.
Not even remotely surprised to hear they're going to ad an archangel to the mix. The archangels are among the most well-known in Biblical mythology, and more than that, were essentially described as supposed to be doing what the exorcist angels were doing. I already predicted they would touch on this, and my expectation was that they would introduce the archangels as defenders of Heaven, and that at least one of them (Michael or Gabriel being the two most famous) would show a lot of contempt for the exorcists, would have no sympathy for Adam, and would point out that it's entirely the fault of the exorcists that Hell is now armed with angelic steel and has any capacity to kill angels at all now.
Personally i didnt like to see Alastor like that, it kinda destroys the character.
Why is that?
Oh ur gonna have a field day when he swears at lucifer
@@heresheis2063 I mean its very clear to me that Rosie = Roo, but still, the Alastor i saw in the leaks was petty much the opposite of what we saw in the first season... i mean come on, he cant even fix his staff on his own now...
I don’t believe that Rosie owns alastor?
Abel is basically pacifist adam
Pretty positive that Rosie is Roo... I think it would make alot of sense.
I had a feeling rosie was hiding smth but definitely didn't expect that, honestly im excited bc i never liked the roo or lilith theories and rosie would be a crazy af plot twist, making her even more loveable
It hurts how he spells alastors name wrong
Auto captions, I corrected a few of them, but I was up pretty late editing the vid so I def missed a few
Why would someone leak the work of an artist, not fair on the team 😢
Im honestly just happy they didnt leak anything about lilith, thats the character I'm honestly excited to see on screen.
Rosie owning alastor that's unexpected?
I definitely think that the Rosie thing is stupid because like... Why?
I don’t really like Rosie being the one who owns alastor
Yeah, the Rosie thing is true. My friend is on TikTok and she likes has hotel like I do and she sent me a TikTok. I didn’t know what the TikTok was at first, but then I looked at it after watching it and it was oh yeah, one of the leaked clips of a storyboard.
Jokes on the hacker, by messing with us he’s going to get BURNED AT THE STAKE!!!!!!!
I definitely think physically posting episodes and stuff is insane 😅
I think the only exeptable spoiler is that season 2 has 10 episodes
Eh.... seriously? Rosie? Ugh... honestly kinda lame. I mean... how? Why? Takes away the whole overpowered overlord persona of alastor, hust so that another overlord owna him.
the adam ,,son" is an adam hologram
Adam has three sons.
Cain, Abel and Seth.
Seth is the youngest son.
Abel is the son that died and the middle child.
Cain is the oldest son.
Cain killed his own brother but I think he will want to make amends with his brother, Abel. Seth never knew both of them.
Seth could possibly be the one that just like Adam.
If Cain wants to make amends would he go around and kill everyone? The answer is No.
Here is one question: how did Adam became the first human soul in heaven?
Abel was the first one to die. Abel could have chosen between Hell and Heaven. Abel must have chosen Hell.
Did Cain ever wanted to kill his own brother? No he never wanted to kill his own brother. I don't think Cain will kill again. So Cain and Abel are out of the picture on this one.
Seth is the obvious answer but the obvious answer is never the correct answer.
Edit: or it was just Adam's spirit.
As someone who has only watched the show, making it Roo would have been a left field thing for me. I was actually hoping it was Zestial.
It would have made more sense if Zestial owned him
I feel like we’re gonna get way more information about Alastor and Rosie, it makes their dynamic a little more interesting since it makes a lot of Alastor scenes look way more like he’s a little thankful but still very resentful of Rosie.
⚠️SPOILERS⚠️
The archangel Sera is seen singing with is called the “Speaker of God”. She came down to find the truth of how sir pentious got redeemed. Sir pentious then explains his backstory. The reason he went to hell is because he witnessed a murder and didn’t do anything about it. And the murderer went on to commit 5 more ( I think he was referring to Jack the Ripper because sir pentious said he was in London).
There is no season 2 episode 10 there are 8 episodes it was confirmed and Lute was singing with Adam's hallucination not his son. Get your facts right
The leakers said it was 10 and people claimed it was Adam's son. What's your source?
Fire as usual💯
They should of had lillith to have alastor soul
One more thing about The leakes that adam is alive and he teamed up with vox for crush The hotel
Heres a little not so fun fact! Lucifer is going to die in episode 8.
does alastor kill him?
I have been trying to find the leak.
Baxter's hat is the same as Sir Pentious' hat
Cause his staff was broken in the fight against adam : man?! Like he was a pet before that
Rosie..? ROSIE?!?!
Where did you find these leaks?
Wait when is the new season supposed to come out?
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According to a Leak, Lilith is disguised as Rosie.
No way... that's crazy but interesting
I still believe in Sinner Adam. Had the show stuck to a seasons then leaving Adam as a hallucination makes more sense. But I definitely think that Lute will find Adam and he's just vibing or something. I don't trust his kid at all. He's going to be trouble big time and I wouldn't be surprised if Adam is shown in Hell q8th Cain.
1:15 That is dumb, Rosie is the last person you who think off also how the heck does Al getting his staff replaced tie into her owning him? THAT'S JUST ASKING SOMEONE FOR A FAVOR!
Also in my opinion there was no point to introduce in Abel don’t get me wrong it’s cool just why?
4:09 I hope not, I'm just gonna say Katie has bad memory, also is Viv just done with the pilots of her shows? We wouldn't had the series without em
Erm no its a good twist
@ your right its a good twist but ya can’t say it doesn’t kill the vibe of Al being a strong overlord
Well no one definitely expected THAT twist. Though now that i think about it, it's not that unbelievable judging by their interactions but it would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown.Alastor REALLY did a great job masking his emotions with that with that smile. You can't tell from his interactions and expressions with her that Rosie is the one who owns Alastor's soul AT FIRST. I'm not sure how to feel about it either. I know there are many fans that like Rosie's character too and ship she and Al. I personally am not one of them. I saw them more as good friends than lovers.
@@nyrhine9664i suppose, that twist was DEFINITELY unexpected. It would also suggest Rosie is more than what is shown so far. And there's still the seven year absence of him and Lilith. That couldn't be a coincidence, right?
@@nyrhine9664 Alastor still is the stronger than Rosie just he did deal with Rosie.
that would be fun if Abel appears and becomes the new leader of the exorcists
What the EHAT WHAT DIDBJS ROSEIE OWNS ALISTSOR SOULSSKSK
BRO WHAT ABOUT ANGEL AND HUSK
I couldn’t help myself in watching so spoilers:
Honestly it’s hard to tell if Alastor isn’t stronger and the only thing keeping him from being above her, is the string she has on him and his soul. After all she said he’d be THE strongest sinner and they succeeded because he was erasing the real big shot overlords, ever since he spawned in as a sinner at the time before ascending to being one himself. So it’s hard to tell if he wouldn’t be stronger than Rosie if he could resist (which he can’t due to her owning his soul)
She does directly say “you are the strongest sinner” so realistically, he should still be over the overlords
I feel bad that they leak this bc I like to wait bc this is too early it's not about rushing it's about waiting for season 2
its adam not his son in the song. adam reappears in a kind of ghost form which shouldnt be as hb said ghosts doesnt exists, but the whole s2 is just bad ab details and canon stuff. theres a leak when adam talks to his son.