@@cgaminganims7046I just (like 2 minutes before commenting) beat my form empties. 3rd attempt. 4 dead. G. Gregor, N. Heath., Rose. Rodion. All of them with like 15% health or less. I am so glad Meursalt’s pursuance corrosion all hit my form emptie before dying. Not even Kromer hit me that hard with any of her attacks. I fear the day they add something like Dongrang’s boss into mirror dungeon hard.
@@stuckerfan2563 yep , luckily from what i seen many share that same thoughts with only a minority complaining. Especially when this is only half as hard as the BS we dealt with back in Ruina
I walked into her fight with all of my team at 50% health or so. 9 turns later, Kurokumo Hong Lu & N Corp Faust deaths, and victory never felt so sweet. Eat shit, Kromer!
@@Fifthform13 havent got to that one yet cuz i just gave up on the bull. i literally had no ego's or skills that could clash with his 4 coin move unless he missed all of them
I beat Brazen Bull yesterday after many resets Bring your Mersault and have him tank the hits that you couldn't clash (or in the case you cannot clash anything, tank the highest damage skill) Clash with Chains of Others to reduce its damage now and then
im gonna be real right now, the new hard md is the second time ever this game presented a challenge to me. first one was.. well, spiced up papa bongy not too proud of that one
I wish tank units weren't so slow so at least they could redirect attacks and be useful, it seems like they could actually be pretty good on the new hard mode
I guess what the devs invision is that slow ids usually gets targeted more. But that didn't work well so they made R mershault to counter it by making him a speed/bleed id with charge mechanic. But that didn't work well too since he has the same problem like other new tanks which required time to build up his skit. The Section 6 Outis is pretty much what you're looking for. Has the stat of a tank with high speed and stagger line, also a defence skill that boost speed and defense. The downside is lackluster dmg and no real defence skits or egos to make her supstain for long (Sunshower only gives 2 protection *after* staggered.
@@huyle-ob8rg R Meursault is kinda okay, he has blunt resist which is pretty much in demand for most fights, but yeah tanks are in a bad spot right now, and the fact that defense skills kinda suck.
@@erhixon773 Really wish he has charge ego by now. Like, he has 2 out of 3 charge ids and has 0 charge ego while faust has a charge ego (that no one is gonna use when Fluid Sac exists) to a mid 00 id (that nobody is gonna use when there's clearly better options and N faust exists)
I mean it MD2 hard where enemies get a tons of buff so Rsalt probably ain't having the best time clashing ( which he does fine out side of it from my usage of him so far ) but MD2 H is where his use as tank shine imo cause high speed and blunt res , good support EGO mean he a natural counter to the Bull BS while freeing the tank slot for Hong Lu to go TT the only big problem i have so far with him is the lack of charge gen EGO , meh charge gain with skill and the fact that S3 take 10 charge away for a bunch of bleed count which kinda useless outside bleed squad
Yeaah it’s a bit rough esp since the base IDs also use sanity now but it’s also a bit strategic in the fact that you have to weigh your options, maybe think about sacs or resistances that may be beneficial, or something Maybe we’ll see it nerfed eventually but PJM has gotten some backlash for nerfing stuff I think
It MD hard dude , enemies get buff to hell and back with floor 5 giving them +5 final power even monster clasher like TT Hong Lu and Nclair already start having issue since floor 4. Infact Rsalt is actually pretty good here doing tanking role cause he get tons of speed now cough guard against the Bull cough
The hard version of the mirror really sucks, sure you can win by spamming EGO but it's not fun, you have even less of a strategy than usual since all your regular moves can't ever win a clash. This dungeon is going to get real boring real fast when your whole strategy is guaranteed to be EGO spam.
well... there is the difficulty of resource generation, since most ID's start needing ego usage once per fight around floor 2... For me, i found it interesting weighing my options on WHICH ego i needed to use at the time, or if i was willing to risk taking damage from an attack (some of which were capable of killing sinners from full health) The strategy just changes HEAVILY here, because instead of a focus on just your sinners, it's a focus on E.G.O. and the colors that your sinners can generate, as well as being able to support E.G.O. for multiple (if not all of your) sinners, for two reasons; human/skirmish battles, and sanity usage. You're not meant to feel bad about EGO spamming in the last fight of the dungeon; that's something you are meant to build resources for to do just that. Though you can also go with the strat of trying to one-sided the boss with skills, which actually works sometimes too. You just have to think about it differently.
@@Deadestest im not sure how you can saythis on a kromer boss fight video, half my teams ego couldnt even roll high enough to out clash her let alone the steady sanity decrease. hard md forces you to save resources for healing and picking/using a variety of sinners for their unique generation and resistances. this makes regen characters actually useful now like Khonglu and Ggregor and most damage status useable, bind and haste is insanely useful too so you can choose sinners with 0.5 * 0.5/0.75 resistances to tank rolls. all this on top of this being the first time i strategically use ego for adjusting damage resistances.
@@markpilerrealofficial > Strategy Lmao, you pick your guys with big rolls, use normals for a few floor to generate EGO resources then spam EGO on floor 4-5 because clashes are otherwise unwinnable. If you're still not sure just slap G Greg on support and N Faust with fluid sac for disgusting HP/ST regen but you most likely did that already in normal mode so nothing really changed.
@@snakefan5074 that will happen. hell, the bull was able to kill one of my guys full with one skill. But you have to consider resistances, more importantly color resistances when in the fight. That, and you need to think about staggering enemies before they swing, OR redirecting to someone who can actually tank it well. I know sure as hell rodion has no ID's that play as a tank...
It is kinda sad that there is literally no other content in the game for now to check R corp Salt in it, cuz in mirror dungeons you either op, or you spam ego, or you are dead.
Huh, I find Rhino Salty good and his third skill can do some major damage. I also like to run R. Corps with W Corp faust and Rosespanner Gregor with AED ...We'lll see how I feel about all this in few weeks when I got sufficiently geared up for hard mode.
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Kroger in hard mode is no joke
I got my thiccness empties in my first run and i got my ass handed to me
Personally i think kromer is less harder than other bosses
@@cgaminganims7046I just (like 2 minutes before commenting) beat my form empties. 3rd attempt. 4 dead. G. Gregor, N. Heath., Rose. Rodion. All of them with like 15% health or less. I am so glad Meursalt’s pursuance corrosion all hit my form emptie before dying. Not even Kromer hit me that hard with any of her attacks. I fear the day they add something like Dongrang’s boss into mirror dungeon hard.
MY TEAM IS UNDERLEVELLED :D
@@bloodbrothers6556wait you can still fight MFE?
When people said limbus is too easy
Then they gave us a sucker punch in our face with this dungeon
Typical pm difficulty spike lol
Yep and we already get people complaining about their skill issue wanting MD2 hard to be nerf when it literally our end game content
@@huyhoangtahuu9733I mean it's not even mandatory you could skip it
@@stuckerfan2563 yep , luckily from what i seen many share that same thoughts with only a minority complaining. Especially when this is only half as hard as the BS we dealt with back in Ruina
Once you finished the battle pass its just grindin for shards
I literally screamed "WHY ARE YOU HERE" when i found her as the last Floor 5 boss in my run
to torture you
I walked into her fight with all of my team at 50% health or so. 9 turns later, Kurokumo Hong Lu & N Corp Faust deaths, and victory never felt so sweet. Eat shit, Kromer!
Sinclair: "Stay in my memories where you belong."
Kromer: "I will never be a memory."
@@Nemer49994Sad thing Nclair cant stun Kromer in dungeons for turn 1 =(
She still wants to grip Sinclair.
I swear to god brazen Bull is way harder than most Bosses in this
Umbrella fox is even worst
@@Fifthform13 havent got to that one yet cuz i just gave up on the bull. i literally had no ego's or skills that could clash with his 4 coin move unless he missed all of them
@@gustavogodoy5651try my form empties
Dude, I hard agree.
I can beat any other boss every time of the week, but
FUCK.
THAT.
BULL.
I beat Brazen Bull yesterday after many resets
Bring your Mersault and have him tank the hits that you couldn't clash (or in the case you cannot clash anything, tank the highest damage skill)
Clash with Chains of Others to reduce its damage now and then
We just need nikolai and the whole r corp captain will be complete
Outis is perfect for this ID
none of the R Corp IDs are captains though? Ishmael, Heathcliff, and Meursault are just basic rank-and-file grunts
@@TheElegantGabrielyes the current R corp id are just mob/foot soldier... Captain of each team had cape on their armor shoulder
@@Mirfan-wt4sp rudolph also had a special rod
@@TheElegantGabrielthen why the heck the rhino mersault's art at III thread is him fighting himself? i thought only leader does that
im gonna be real right now, the new hard md is the second time ever this game presented a challenge to me.
first one was.. well, spiced up papa bongy
not too proud of that one
Agree, I can proudly deploy my favorite tanks to the battle now.
Spiced Up Papa Bongy got us all at least once. Worry not.
I wish tank units weren't so slow so at least they could redirect attacks and be useful, it seems like they could actually be pretty good on the new hard mode
I guess what the devs invision is that slow ids usually gets targeted more. But that didn't work well so they made R mershault to counter it by making him a speed/bleed id with charge mechanic. But that didn't work well too since he has the same problem like other new tanks which required time to build up his skit.
The Section 6 Outis is pretty much what you're looking for. Has the stat of a tank with high speed and stagger line, also a defence skill that boost speed and defense. The downside is lackluster dmg and no real defence skits or egos to make her supstain for long (Sunshower only gives 2 protection *after* staggered.
@@huyle-ob8rg R Meursault is kinda okay, he has blunt resist which is pretty much in demand for most fights, but yeah tanks are in a bad spot right now, and the fact that defense skills kinda suck.
@@erhixon773 Really wish he has charge ego by now. Like, he has 2 out of 3 charge ids and has 0 charge ego while faust has a charge ego (that no one is gonna use when Fluid Sac exists) to a mid 00 id (that nobody is gonna use when there's clearly better options and N faust exists)
Hopefully with the new aggro system they’re introducing it’ll make it easier for tanks to redirect hits
damn i met "my form empty" and i already know it a hopeless fight
Defeating Aida on turn one with unopposed attacks will help you big time. She's easily staggered so it's usually doable.
Canon full strength kromer
The version our characters failed against
The fact that Ishmael doesn't wears a fancy helmet gives me big sad.
I mean it MD2 hard where enemies get a tons of buff so Rsalt probably ain't having the best time clashing ( which he does fine out side of it from my usage of him so far ) but MD2 H is where his use as tank shine imo cause high speed and blunt res , good support EGO mean he a natural counter to the Bull BS while freeing the tank slot for Hong Lu to go TT the only big problem i have so far with him is the lack of charge gen EGO , meh charge gain with skill and the fact that S3 take 10 charge away for a bunch of bleed count which kinda useless outside bleed squad
Next paralyze ID we're getting is gonna pop off with these BS coin values
I think that the difficult is fine for a hard mode, but the last bosses need a bit of tweaks, a lot of their clashes cant be won even with EGO skills.
Pick better egos
@@crzmicky p2w loser spotted
@crzmicky what if you don't have better egos?
Yeaah it’s a bit rough esp since the base IDs also use sanity now but it’s also a bit strategic in the fact that you have to weigh your options, maybe think about sacs or resistances that may be beneficial, or something
Maybe we’ll see it nerfed eventually but PJM has gotten some backlash for nerfing stuff I think
I don't want to see how hard are going to be mirror dungeon 3 and the other 2 refractions railways 💀
I heard that subtle metal pipe..
As one wise man said
The difficulty spike is
Vertical
i like the part where there were some cool ego animations
Those flutters were not innocent 💀💀
Guessed he seemed badish, that being the Rhino.
Did you also get all the charge gifts? I've seen a buttload of charge support gifts in the MD around.
Nah no charge ego gift in chat run except goggle.
He's not that bad,it just in MD hard mode he struggle with clashing but that's because it's MD hard in general forces to just clash with ego
It MD hard dude , enemies get buff to hell and back with floor 5 giving them +5 final power even monster clasher like TT Hong Lu and Nclair already start having issue since floor 4. Infact Rsalt is actually pretty good here doing tanking role cause he get tons of speed now cough guard against the Bull cough
I would say his base ego is the key to many bosses. Rhino funny but I think I will go with Liusault with LiuIsh, blunt node in MD2H is just brutal.
The roundest of boys
do not miss this
The hard version of the mirror really sucks, sure you can win by spamming EGO but it's not fun, you have even less of a strategy than usual since all your regular moves can't ever win a clash. This dungeon is going to get real boring real fast when your whole strategy is guaranteed to be EGO spam.
oh no
team building in a strategy game on the hard difficulty created by a studio known for creating confusing and difficult content
well... there is the difficulty of resource generation, since most ID's start needing ego usage once per fight around floor 2...
For me, i found it interesting weighing my options on WHICH ego i needed to use at the time, or if i was willing to risk taking damage from an attack (some of which were capable of killing sinners from full health)
The strategy just changes HEAVILY here, because instead of a focus on just your sinners, it's a focus on E.G.O. and the colors that your sinners can generate, as well as being able to support E.G.O. for multiple (if not all of your) sinners, for two reasons; human/skirmish battles, and sanity usage.
You're not meant to feel bad about EGO spamming in the last fight of the dungeon; that's something you are meant to build resources for to do just that. Though you can also go with the strat of trying to one-sided the boss with skills, which actually works sometimes too. You just have to think about it differently.
@@markpilerrealofficial theres no team building bro its just spamming egos
@@Deadestest im not sure how you can saythis on a kromer boss fight video, half my teams ego couldnt even roll high enough to out clash her let alone the steady sanity decrease. hard md forces you to save resources for healing and picking/using a variety of sinners for their unique generation and resistances. this makes regen characters actually useful now like Khonglu and Ggregor and most damage status useable, bind and haste is insanely useful too so you can choose sinners with 0.5 * 0.5/0.75 resistances to tank rolls. all this on top of this being the first time i strategically use ego for adjusting damage resistances.
@@markpilerrealofficial > Strategy
Lmao, you pick your guys with big rolls, use normals for a few floor to generate EGO resources then spam EGO on floor 4-5 because clashes are otherwise unwinnable. If you're still not sure just slap G Greg on support and N Faust with fluid sac for disgusting HP/ST regen but you most likely did that already in normal mode so nothing really changed.
who knew hard mode would be hard?!?!?!?!?
kromer, true id
so ishmael is the only one without a helmet
Will there be a Raven unit? Outis will be the perfect choice.
yo im like brand spanking new is that hud an update or a mod
R Corp vs Kromer: Broke
Ardor Blossom Star, Screwloose Wallop, and Bodysack vs Kromer: WOKE
No E.G.O resources?☹️
Music name ?
man i hate md2 hard mode so much
everything is fine until the last boss
all i can do is ego spam
you could do one sided attacks and just tank the hits, no one said you were required to win every clash
@@idothed9588 the statue left rodion with 40% of her hp with a single attack...
@@snakefan5074 Tank the hits to someone that nullifies the effect type
@@feintfaint7213 When the enemy is buffed that much even ineffective hits hurt a lot.
@@snakefan5074 that will happen. hell, the bull was able to kill one of my guys full with one skill. But you have to consider resistances, more importantly color resistances when in the fight. That, and you need to think about staggering enemies before they swing, OR redirecting to someone who can actually tank it well. I know sure as hell rodion has no ID's that play as a tank...
It is kinda sad that there is literally no other content in the game for now to check R corp Salt in it, cuz in mirror dungeons you either op, or you spam ego, or you are dead.
God, Rhino Meursault was such a disappointment to see, they really just drained the potential it had
I literally spammed ego all the time 😭
who thought this was a good idea
Huh, I find Rhino Salty good and his third skill can do some major damage. I also like to run R. Corps with W Corp faust and Rosespanner Gregor with AED
...We'lll see how I feel about all this in few weeks when I got sufficiently geared up for hard mode.
How did you know the final boss was Kromer?
He will just join and restart if he found her ,so he can bring the r corps to fight