19:57 Bayonetta 2 is a completely different case than your other examples. The Bayonetta franchise would've been dead after the first game without Nintendo. Sega owns the IP but wasn't interested in financing a new game. Platinum went to Sony and Xbox, among other publishers, and none of them were interested in picking up the mantle. Only Nintendo did, and they've been the only bankroller for the IP since then.
Capcom has stronger franchises than Square Enix. Resident Evil, Street Fighter, and Devil May Cry are all super popular. Final Fantasy is popular but it’s still niche in a way, and that’s really all Square Enix has.
@@bizmonkey007 Nah, Square Enix is just as strong as Capcom interm of franchises. They has multiple super popular franchises too like Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Nier, Final Fantasy. Even Dragon Quest is considered as the mother of JRPG
@briandprice1981 that's more so a newer strong franchise for Capcom the og was more so a Cult classic, that rightfully received its flowers eventually
@@David_Jackk didn't square Enix sell of ips like tome raider , Duex and other to embrace group years ago their responsible for not having strong franchises
Square should’ve released console exclusives on PC at launch, it would’ve helped them significantly. That goes for the insane amount of exclusives on Nintendo that Square releases every year…
If ID can crank out a doom game every 3-4 years and it took Tango 5 years to develop Hi Fi Rush and they were drafting a sequel that’s probably why they shut it down.
10:00 one thing to consider is that they bundled part 1 of FF7 with Rebirth during the pre-order window. Wishful thinking they would do something similar on Xbox, but maybe pricing like Kingdom Hearts bundles they've released in two parts?
There would be zero distinction between the consoles. If anything All games should be on PC, but let the consoles still have their exclusives to console.
If there were no consoles, then the price of entry for gaming would go up. The reason consoles are much cheaper than gaming PCs is because the console maker sells the hardware at a loss and makes up that loss through first-party software sales, third party license fees for the right to make games for the closed-platform hardware, and subscription services. Without all that extra revenue coming in, a game console would cost as much as a PC. That's why console exclusives are important, because without them, your PS5 or Xbox Series X wouldn't cost $400-500; they'd be much higher in price.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.T Consoles would still have their First Party games. This is only for Third Party companies like Square Enix. Stop crying like babies, this means more people can enjoy the same game you do.
Regarding the question in the title, it is more important to the smallest group of gamers within' the smallest group of console owners than it is to Xbox than it is to Microsoft. TL;DR: If you thought the sales of Final Fantasy 13 and 15 were bad on Xbox, expect even worse in the future if it were to happen. I'm not saying there is a chance, don't get your hope up.
It will only be big if they gave release dates for the games they announced last year. Tired of the announcements only to not see the game for 5 years or never see it at all
60 Percent Of Playtime In 2023 Went To 6-Year-Old Or Older Games, New Data Shows A report shows that while the industry is growing, its biggest competition is Fortnite, GTA, Call of Duty, and Roblox To me this is the biggest reason exclusives are struggling as well as new games getting canceled or two weeks after they come out interest drops dramatically. So much of gamer's time is being taken up by a handful of games
33:05 Ultima is the reason why do we have Elder Scrolls, Might and Magic, Dragon Age and Elden Ring today....I have the Ultima Exodus and Quest of Avatar for the NES impossible to not see the connections with the modern RPGs.
Square Enix is a Third Party Company. They can do whatever they want. Just like Capcom did the last few weeks before release. They switched for Multiple Platform for RE4 Remake.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX They signed a contract and they have a 30yr relationship with Sony. It's staying on PS for at least a year after part 3. The relationship between FFVII and PS literally goes back to the creation on PS.
Just like xbox consoles, playstation consoles will be less and less in people homes cause all playstation games will go day and date to pc. It's inevitable. Games cost is to high these days.
@@thepews1511 Bad example. Crisis Core is a prequel to a group of games that isn't even on xbox. Why buy a game if you aren't going to be able to experience the whole story on that platform?
You cannot compare Microsoft to square. Square does not sell console. If all Xbox games go to Sony there is no reason to buy an Xbox. There is no incentive to purchase Xbox.
Notice how anyone who says that exclusives don't work completely ignores the fact that Nintendo's Switch won this gen, beating both the PS5 (now projected to sell fewer units than the PS4) and Xbox Series X/S (which has been tanking for the past few months). Can you play Nintendo's games on any other platform? No. And that's why Nintendo is winning. But yeah, if Sony starts releasing their first-party games day one on PC, then eventually the market will be PC vs a Nintendo console.
Expected from Xbox people. The reason for Square being where they are currently business wise is all the canceled games. Not FF16 and FFRebirth. They sold just fine. Of course Ryan wouldn't mention the real reason they didn't hit their revenue target or are down.
Imagine defnending a Multi Billion dollar company for a $500 console. How about just play your games and enjoy the fact everyone else can also play those games.
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We really need a sports podcast with Ryan
When Microsoft shuts down Xbox, IGN should turn this podcast into IGN Sports with Ryan McCaffrey! That'd be awesome.
19:57 Bayonetta 2 is a completely different case than your other examples. The Bayonetta franchise would've been dead after the first game without Nintendo. Sega owns the IP but wasn't interested in financing a new game. Platinum went to Sony and Xbox, among other publishers, and none of them were interested in picking up the mantle. Only Nintendo did, and they've been the only bankroller for the IP since then.
Yeah that was a weird thing because it was the same for Street fighter 5. That game might not exist without PlayStations help.
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Capcom dont care at all. They release their games everywhere. Go look at their networth compare to enix.
Capcom has stronger franchises than Square Enix. Resident Evil, Street Fighter, and Devil May Cry are all super popular. Final Fantasy is popular but it’s still niche in a way, and that’s really all Square Enix has.
@@bizmonkey007 Nah, Square Enix is just as strong as Capcom interm of franchises. They has multiple super popular franchises too like Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts, Nier, Final Fantasy. Even Dragon Quest is considered as the mother of JRPG
@briandprice1981 that's more so a newer strong franchise for Capcom the og was more so a Cult classic, that rightfully received its flowers eventually
@@David_Jackk didn't square Enix sell of ips like tome raider , Duex and other to embrace group years ago their responsible for not having strong franchises
You may want to lower taylor's volume level next time, she's loud af and many of us listen to the show with headphones on.
She’s only on here cuz she’s black
You can play Doom with mouse and keyboard on Xbox. Don't need a PC to do that.
Square Enix still living in 1997.
Seriously lol
@operator2549 They shouldn't just be thinking about it. It should have been done a long time ago.
There was already a Remake/Rebirth bundling when Rebirth came out, so we have data to tell what they could do with an all-in trilogy bundle
Square should’ve released console exclusives on PC at launch, it would’ve helped them significantly. That goes for the insane amount of exclusives on Nintendo that Square releases every year…
There shouldn’t have been any from a multi platform company to begin with
If I’m not mistaken Street Fighter 5 and Bayonetta wouldn’t have existed without the help from Nintendo and Sony helping to fund those games
Yes that did happen. I'm not sure how they don't remember.
Pony's are hating this.
Its weird they are pissed (More gamers can enjoy the games they enjoy).
Who the hell gets distracted with animal crossing over doom eternal ? LoL
Did she say the wizards????? They’re not in the playoffs
If ID can crank out a doom game every 3-4 years and it took Tango 5 years to develop Hi Fi Rush and they were drafting a sequel that’s probably why they shut it down.
Can't wait to play FF16 on my Series X
Question is, if it doesn't release on gamepass will you be buying it? 👀 ⌛
@@VOAxInsanityalso will square put it on gamepass? They put them all on there to begin with but 10 months later they were all removed
Great game
@@VOAxInsanity Of course not, Xbox players don't buy games.
@@MarbleThumbsmy library says ur wrong
10:00 one thing to consider is that they bundled part 1 of FF7 with Rebirth during the pre-order window. Wishful thinking they would do something similar on Xbox, but maybe pricing like Kingdom Hearts bundles they've released in two parts?
Once the trilogy is done, yes, after whatever 3-12 month window Sony has on the last installment.
@@Alex_Logan22the 3rd part won't be released before years, Square want the multiplat strategy quick and agressive
@@k-rams
Yes, pretty sure all games but the 3rd FF7 will be multiplatform.
Why would they accept exclusivity deals with Sony if whatever Sony pays them is less than if they were multi platform?
So disappointed in Stella for not playing Doom Eternal. Play it Stella and stream it. I'll be watching .
Downloading now!
all games should be release on all platforms. Should have always been this way, and should always be this way going forward.
There would be zero distinction between the consoles. If anything All games should be on PC, but let the consoles still have their exclusives to console.
What a simplistic view lacking nuance…
What would be the purpose of owning all systems if all the games are released on all systems wouldn't you just purchase one system.
If there were no consoles, then the price of entry for gaming would go up. The reason consoles are much cheaper than gaming PCs is because the console maker sells the hardware at a loss and makes up that loss through first-party software sales, third party license fees for the right to make games for the closed-platform hardware, and subscription services. Without all that extra revenue coming in, a game console would cost as much as a PC. That's why console exclusives are important, because without them, your PS5 or Xbox Series X wouldn't cost $400-500; they'd be much higher in price.
@@SheepAmongG.O.A.T Consoles would still have their First Party games.
This is only for Third Party companies like Square Enix.
Stop crying like babies, this means more people can enjoy the same game you do.
They need to put rebirth on pc right now
Regarding the question in the title, it is more important to the smallest group of gamers within' the smallest group of console owners than it is to Xbox than it is to Microsoft.
TL;DR: If you thought the sales of Final Fantasy 13 and 15 were bad on Xbox, expect even worse in the future if it were to happen. I'm not saying there is a chance, don't get your hope up.
The Xbox version could have had mouse and keyboard support but no....
Does this mean the FF7 remake will come to Xbox series X and maybe ports of type 0, 10, 10X2, kingdom hearts series maybe?
No shortage of feudal Japan games. Ghost of Tsushima, Like a Dragon Ishin, & this new AC.
Thanks for keeping this episode mostly positive, gang! 👊
45:28 Just give me Splinter Cell instead of Assassins Creed. Thx.
Wow Ryan had no idea you’re a suns fan!!
Yea he got bummed out about the Coyotes leaving. Also he reps the Dbacks
@@MoFoTRex93 I’m so sad about that. The first nail in the coffin for them was going to Glendale
This showcase gone be big
lol evergreen comment for Xbox
It will only be big if they gave release dates for the games they announced last year. Tired of the announcements only to not see the game for 5 years or never see it at all
We say this every time smh
So this our new E3?
What if this is a strategy for them to ask Sony for more money.
What has Sony got to do with this?
@@MarbleThumbs Sony funded the remake project and bought exclusive rights to all 3 parts
@MiniatureMorpheus Correct, those contracts were agreed upon and signed years ago, they can't turn around and suddenly ask for more money.
@@MarbleThumbs Indeed. I'm all for Xbox getting XVI, but hands off of Vll. That's PS baby from day 1.
@MiniatureMorpheus is the game somehow worse because it would also be available to wider audience?
People are dumb.
Glad the exclusivity is finally over. Didn't make any sense
Square Enix will be all over the Switch 2, that is guaranteed.
60 Percent Of Playtime In 2023 Went To 6-Year-Old Or Older Games, New Data Shows
A report shows that while the industry is growing, its biggest competition is Fortnite, GTA, Call of Duty, and Roblox
To me this is the biggest reason exclusives are struggling as well as new games getting canceled or two weeks after they come out interest drops dramatically. So much of gamer's time is being taken up by a handful of games
Gamers are gaming as much as ever, they're just not buying new games like they did in the past.
The negative side of games as a service
No cause they're going full 3rd party
33:05 Ultima is the reason why do we have Elder Scrolls, Might and Magic, Dragon Age and Elden Ring today....I have the Ultima Exodus and Quest of Avatar for the NES impossible to not see the connections with the modern RPGs.
Taylor is so dumb.
“They’re just going to close a studio if their games don’t sell?”
Yeah, that’s how business works
Only people that have a problem are PS fan boys. True gamers own all consoles
Exclusives are an old era ideology
the problem is xbox doesn't sell games it will go to gamepass which is killing xbox btw
Xbox theory is to not do third party exclusives but buy the studio and limit there success to gamepass and only one console
FF7R part 1-3 are Console exclusive. Sony bought the rights already
Square Enix is a Third Party Company.
They can do whatever they want.
Just like Capcom did the last few weeks before release.
They switched for Multiple Platform for RE4 Remake.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX They signed a contract and they have a 30yr relationship with Sony. It's staying on PS for at least a year after part 3. The relationship between FFVII and PS literally goes back to the creation on PS.
Port begging for 20 min 😂😂🤢
Do not, my friends, become addicted to reading. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!
Great episode with lovely people. You're all awesome! 😊
lol Stella sux
FF7Rebirth did not sale only one systeam
O.o
You loke your exclusives? You barely have any?!?!?!
Just like xbox consoles, playstation consoles will be less and less in people homes cause all playstation games will go day and date to pc. It's inevitable. Games cost is to high these days.
Nintendo is laughing lol and PS5 and XBOX
Laughs in ryujinx
Yeah..and it’s gonna sell 5 more copies 😂 😂 😂
Xbox dudes: nO GaMepaSS NO PLay
Hmmmm my library says otherwise 🤣🤣🤣
These console warriors are so lame 😂🤦🏻♂️
Another console warrior, how sad you are.
Crisis Core the direct prequel for these games they're begging for sold 6% on Xbox. Y'all don't even play em 😂
@@thepews1511 Bad example. Crisis Core is a prequel to a group of games that isn't even on xbox. Why buy a game if you aren't going to be able to experience the whole story on that platform?
San Francisco isnt the most expensive city in America
You cannot compare Microsoft to square. Square does not sell console. If all Xbox games go to Sony there is no reason to buy an Xbox. There is no incentive to purchase Xbox.
Wrong. Just because you own a Iphone doesn't mean someone else has too.
They instead prefer android.
If this confuses you, move on.
You bots do know the 3rd act of ff7 will still be exclusive to PlayStation right Sony has funded and bought the entire saga dumb bots
Don’t be bitter. It’s all going to be okay!
Calm down a little bit
Well timed exclusive for like 6 months
you aint lyin about Az sports
Ff7 is boring and way too long
Ff16 lol they not porting that expensive game to Xbox 😂 are you fuckin loosing it man
if Exclusives arent working doesn't that mean EVENTUALLY all console games as a whole will all go to PC and making consoles as a business is pointless
Notice how anyone who says that exclusives don't work completely ignores the fact that Nintendo's Switch won this gen, beating both the PS5 (now projected to sell fewer units than the PS4) and Xbox Series X/S (which has been tanking for the past few months). Can you play Nintendo's games on any other platform? No. And that's why Nintendo is winning.
But yeah, if Sony starts releasing their first-party games day one on PC, then eventually the market will be PC vs a Nintendo console.
Third Party Exclusives aint working.
First Party Exclusives are doing great.
Don't comment if you don't understand.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX I’m just making a discussion why not comment?
Better buy it lol
Will xbox even be around in 3 years? Lol
Get off the stage you drunk ba****rd
Spoken like a true pony.
Does it matter. If Xbox leaves the console market, another player will very likely take its place.
@@madskull1972cope
Sounds like you want to marry your PS5. Get help.
Xbox needs to go away forever for the health of the industry. They think buying developers makes them a real gaming company.
Pony.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX oh my goodness I’m so insulted and hurt by being called a pony 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wait for part 3,l??? Because xbox fans are used to wait for games
Fire Ryan and Stella and make Destin host
By the time it goes to Xbox... Xbox won't exist! Lol
Keep dreaming Pony.
5 hold on buddy your giving them to much credit more like 1
Expected from Xbox people. The reason for Square being where they are currently business wise is all the canceled games. Not FF16 and FFRebirth. They sold just fine. Of course Ryan wouldn't mention the real reason they didn't hit their revenue target or are down.
What were their budgets?
@@R17759 In total it was 140 million in losses.
"Journalists" probably didn't even bother to glance the report.
Where TF is FABLE?! Can Xbox do anything new? 🤦🤦🤦
This show really has fallen. Check all the woke boxes for guests....
Is this a joke? Why would that be the case… go to a failing console?
Why are you watching a Xbox video.
Just to bloat? Move on Pony.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX awww are you offended
Square Enix has made a BIG mistake.
Ryan McCaffrey gonna need to move to the Sony department of IGN soon 😂😂😂
Imagine defnending a Multi Billion dollar company for a $500 console.
How about just play your games and enjoy the fact everyone else can also play those games.
@@MatrixAlphaCWX imagine blah blah blah
Skol Wolves!