How To Melt Aluminum With A Hole In The Ground
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2014
- I've been interested to try this design for use as a survivalist foundry for quite some time now. The name of this type of fire pit is a Dakota Fire Hole, and I thought with a little extra air flow provided by a fan it might have the potential for some real heat.
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ONE WORD OF CAUTION!
DON'T do a Dakota fire hole ANYWHERE close to TREES! You can catch the entire root system on fire underground and the WHOLE TREE can catch fire up to a week later, even if you bury the coals with dirt! It's best to flood the hole with water really well before back filling the dirt if it's even "remotely" close to trees.
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That is a very sweet furnace!
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o hey kipkay :D
I have so many soda cand eack week. Also, I've heard that if you pour the aluminum into a bucket of ice cold water, it forms cool wavy patterns. From there, you can make it into your center-piece and call it modern art.
Gio Penguin
don't pour aluminum in ice cold water, idiot! it will splash all over and burn your skin!
Gio Penguin what could go wrong right?
I enjoyed this video, and I'm subscribed!
Why thank you sir.
eric vo haha crazyrussianhacker is the most ridicoulus chanell on RUclips, which after a couple decent videos resorted to showing 'how to properly eat watermelons' I feel sorry that you waste time watching his videos
this was a great video! i use to do this all the time but it wasn't very efficient so now i know a great way to smelt down some metals :)
I wonder if kipkay enjoys this
+Dimitri Javani Ya but Atleast i Dont have to spend Time With Your Dumbness
My shopping list
1. A shovel
2.Wooden Planks
3.A small metal fan
4.A steel pot
5.100s of Pop cans
Not suspicious at all.
You could just find sticks
Haha, better than the trunk of my car for a while: Jug of bleach, rubber gloves, trash bags, rope, shovel, machete, changes of clothes. Looks REAL suspicious being a janitor that also loves hiking/camping, or being prepared.
Hi Ben (Nighthawkinlight),
I just make this forge and successfully melted aluminum. I should mention that I had to dig through about 1.5 ft of solid sandstone down AND diagonally. This took me about four hours but it was well worth it! Burs AMAZINGLY hot! Started to melt the steel rod I was using. Thanks for the great projects ;).
Liquid aluminum is so fascinating... Great video!
you're so far down in the comments section...lol btw I love ur vids
L ja tee
Great video!! :D
love your channel
Lol so many famous ppl in 1 comment section! **Faints**
Alltime10s WOW YOU HAVE OVER 4M SUBS WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
YOU saved my summer! I was going crazy for an optimal design just for a dozen cans I wanted to smelt and didn't want to build an high effort forge! thank you! :)
NightHawkInLight
I dug a hole in my garden for this with a air tunnel for a little fan like yours.
The fire got nice and hot!
When I tried to melt the cans it wasn't hot enough.
We got out the skid steer with a post auger. The hole got loaded with large logs and a for fan we used a large box fan.
I put the pot on the fire started loading it up with cans they melted but there was no aluminum in the pot I put kept trying to melt the cans but the was no melted aluminum so finally i lift the pot out and discover that there was a hole melted in the side of the pot.
Lesson learned
Don't try melting aluminum cans in a aluminum pot!
I am off to the store to find a new pot that is STEEL
farmerKJS Did you pull the aluminum out of the hole afterwards?
No i just plowed it under so i could plant
farmerKJS LOL dude, sorry, but that was FUNNY...hahah....looked in the bottom of the pot and there was a hole...damn dude, you just made my night!!
As for leaving the aluminum in there, hmmmm I don't know much about metallurgy but that might not be so good for whatever you're planting......I know a LOT of home builders bury a lot of their debris and grass won't grow over the place where they buried it. A buddy of mine bought a new house and there was a square patch in his backyard, about 8' square that just wouldn't grow.....he finally dug it up and found 4 or 5 bundles of pink insulation, brand new in the packages.....
michael C
well it was only a little but and the wood/ash is natural. I haven't had any problems yet
farmerKJS ok, that's good, I was thinking that it was like 4 lbs or something lol...
Seriously though, did you laugh when you saw the hole in the bottom of your pot? I know I would.....lol...and it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened to me...like the time I changed the oil in my car, put 4.2 quarts in and nothing showed on the dipstick? Well THIS dipstick forgot to put the drain plug back in lol........
I saw one of the guys from Cottage Life cutting open an oil drum. I heard of an accident at my father's work where some guy decided to do that. Nothing but shoes were left for the coffin. If you don't know how long ago and what kind of liquid was stored in oil drums and you really have to cut them then do it when they're filled with water displacing any potential flammable liquid vapor.
That's good advice. There aren't many explosively flammable things that might be found in an oil drum that you couldn't detect with a sniff test, but it's better safe than sorry.
***** I used the term oil drum because that has become a common term for all 55 gallon steel barrels, not all of which are actually used for oil.
Always have to be really careful about moisture in your pour. Like in the video it can cause bubbles but if you're unlucky the bubbles may pop/explode sending liquid metal everywhere. That is why you may see some people preheat their mold before a pour to drive out any moisture.
I thought that was to prevent shock from cracking the mold due to a sudden temperature change
+Connor Steppie it's for both.
+KamiCrit is there a way to protect the holes from turning into mud
Kipkay, MatthewSantoro, TKOR, and even alltime10s watched the video, and it only has 1.5 million views. It deserves WAY more.
Great work, QUALITY content!
would adding a layer of proper rocks at the bottom help deliever a more consistant heat level ??
nice
Aymii keegan from my experience yes , rocks helps fire quality
This is awesome!
Great fire pit design. I think my dog has been trying to dig one of these in my garden for awhile lol. :)
Smart dog. Mine just bury bones. Does your dog know how to start a fire?
@@cindyjencks5848 mine does
I'm here for the debate over the spelling of aluminum/aluminium! :)
You may never leave this place
I'm all for the underdog, "alumino"
I love both of your guys videos keep up the good work
thanks!
Aloominoom.
I've been doing this for years. Great minds think alike! For the air tunnel, I use a scrap piece of pipe from a fence post driven down at an angle to the hole bottom and a vacuum cleaner rigged as a blower. I fuel mine with wooden blocks cut on the chop saw from scrap lumber and dead tree limbs. I suggest a cover on the crucible as sand and ash sometimes blow over the top. As the dirt in the hole dries out, the sides tend to crumble so this is only good for occasional pours where a permanent furnace is not worth the effort. Aluminum cans are a poor choice for metal as there is so much surface area on the cans, they oxidize and create lots of slag. Better to add them to an already molten pot of metal if they must be used. Steel muffin tins are good to pour left over aluminum in to make ingots.
Beware! Molten metal is no joke. It will burn right through your shoe and molten metal poured on concrete or wet ground can explode from the steam created.
What do you use for a cast?
connor jackson
I use mostly extruded aluminum window frames and small engine parts such as pistons and engine blocks. If you heat aluminum, it becomes brittle at high temps and can be broken apart with a big hammer. some guys use old BBQ grills to heat metal in to make it brittle enough to break apart. I just throw it in the fire for a while. any ingots you make should be small enough to fit in your crucible.
clockguy2 I think he ment what method do you use as a mold for casting , just my take on what he said
ChickenPlaysHD Yes, that's what I was asking. I'm thinking of making custom molds and was wondering what other people have used.
connor jackson I use green sand. Some use lost foam casting.
Nice! So simple to make too, now that we know how. Thanks.
all of your videos are fantastic and super creative. high production value also doesnt hurt.
nice way to do it, extremely cheap on materials needed, and simple to do and understand. Great job.
I'm fucking high
I was very worried those moisture bubbles were going to pop molten metal all over you. I want to try making Silumin, aluminum alloyed with silicon using a thermite reaction between the molten aluminum and some clean sand to produce the silicon. I read that a eutetic mixture is good for forging and a hypereutectic mixture would be good for casting engine parts
You have an amazing channel man. All very interesting. I like how your projects may not go as expected but you upload it anyways so we can see the results. Really cool stuff.
I like that you don’t need to buy an expensive foundry. Thank you. I’ll will do this to melt my Aluminium cans and pour them to make projects. Excellent video.
A foundry is a building or structure used in the melting of metals.
The pit would be called a furnace and the pot would be called a crucible
That´s awesome my friend, very cool, like a Dakota fire pit times 10.
I love this guy, he is like the caveman of all the sciency-diy channels, go dig a damn hole and fill it with coal, the fire needs air? dig another hole!
BRAN NEW SHINY STAINLESS STEEL POT LOOTED IN A NEARBY CAVE YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PREHISTORIC SOLAR PANELS AND MEDIEVAL ELETRIC FAN !!!!
@@genkidama7385 I Imagine that if you don't have a stainless steel pot looted from a cave, you could always opt for stone. If you don't have prehistoric solar panels, or a medieval electric fan, you could fashion a bellows from the skin of an animal, or woven cloth, or find a bunch of long reeds and longer winded people to blow them.
Good idea, looks so simple but yet it works so great!
This is a cool idea, but I have one huge caveat. NEVER pour molten metal in a pile of dirt. If there is any water in the dirt it can flash to steam which then splatters molten metal all over. I had this happen with lead, pouring it into a piece of wood. When professionals cast molten metal, they always heat their forms first to drive out any moisture. If you want to use something simple and safe, dried out sand is much better. You can even mix the sand with a binder and form molds, which is really fun.
In this case, luckily, nothing happened. I just want to make sure that nobody viewing the video gets hurt. Love your videos, keep being awesome!
Agreed. Typically a steam explosion is most dangerous in non porous containers because the steam has nowhere to go besides up, through the molten metal. I was aware of this in pouring into dirt which does have some porosity to release pressure downward. It did still have some risk though as you say.
@@Nighthawkinlight I didn't think of that - the dirt wasn't even highly compacted, so it was probably safer than I thought. My main concern was if people see the video and try it in soil like we have in MD, which is pretty much 100% wet clay below 4 inches of dirt.
I LOVE YOUR SOIL. All I have in PA is rocks...And more rocks..
Really cool idea and great video!
-Ritchie
Love this video, Super cool way to get liquid Aluminum for casts.
This was absolutely 100% nice. Gonna try this next summer
ah nostalgc video of your just appeared on my recommended.
DUDE! Thanks for confirming what I was wondering/figuring would be a great way to melt aluminum. I can't recall the name of the fire pit you made (Think it was related to a Native Indian Tribe, read it in a Survival Guide), but was thinking that would be the best way to economically force air into the fire area. Some modern tech (small fan powered by solar) to spare having to use a bellows or long pipes and communal lung power. I can chop wood, that's no money, I can dig a hole, no more money, and I have solar panels to run a small fan, and a cheap pot can be found at Goodwill. Now hopefully, I can talk the local mills into letting me get some scraps or shavings. (Lol, just read your description, "Dakota Fire Hole")
I searched 15 videos and yours finally works
Great video - I loved the background music. Very soothing.
Your video is much more watchable than the "professional" video that sponsored you. At least you keep your camera still.
You should watch some of their other videos. They have a bunch of different presenters. I really like this guy's stuff: ruclips.net/video/sMC3ZF-kuUM/видео.html
Neat project. Another fun video!
Wow, I wonder if I could do this without pissing off the people I live with/own this house with?
Man, I've always liked your channel, but this is by far the coolest video that you've ever made!!!!!
okay this is awesome! you just gave me an idea for any survival needs in scouts! ill be sure to give you credit when i bring it up. please make more videos like this! you are awesome
Woah! I always wanted to make an aluminum furnace,but its to complicated,finaly a a.f. that is easy to make
why the fuck are there too many awesome youtubers in this video?
Kipkay, The King of Random, Alltime10s, ZombieGoBoom, HouseholdHacker, GreenPowerScience, Mathew Santoro, and Hybrid Librarian. I may have missed some more!
They're apart of a partner network, they use each other to grow their fan bases.
Very very good idea, for possibly the cheapest way to melt Aluminium. I cannot think of a cheaper or easier way to do it. Fantastic video NightHawkInLight, absolutely awesome brother, thank you for sharing.
For anyone looking for a better, more economical way of melting Aluminium, I know of none.
Great idea, I'm going to try this out. I had a brake drum setup but it's not really big enough. Thanks for the video!
You're totally cool. :-)
erin meek Thanks!
I tried a stainless steel pot to melt copper but it ended with the stainless steel melted and not the copper...
Da fuk the logic lol
Use a carbon crusable instead. it happened to me too.
Thats actually rly funny
for that slow best it and keep a top on it for aluminum hours gas
You can melt brass in a steel crucible, I think.
Very cool, or hot I should say. Its these types of videos that are a real asset in the event of a catastrophe like the grid getting fried and having to survive without electricity. I would imagine this is an ancient method for casting and things evolved along that path to the modern day smelting and foundry operations.
When its all said and done the same principles apply, getting the material hot enough to make it molten and cast something usable. Thanks for the video.
Thank you so much for the idea. I am attempting to build one of these in my brother in laws back yard. I look forward to more ideas from you in the future. subscribed
Will this help with melting bodies down?
+MasterZephyr6 You have the same "problem" too?
Samurai Mikai You know it
Sigh, this is only a dream for people who live in Georgia.
hytato the dirt is clay... ;(
I really Love your Channel and Congratulations to 1 000 000 subscribers. You deserve it!!!
Thanks for the idea! I might try casting a few machine parts using this method.
I gave this a try over the weekend, and it worked great! I made the same mistake of using a pot with aluminum rivets. I was able to melt down a few cans and get a handle on how this works (burned myself a couple times).
I'm planning on making some little ingot casts, along with out of plaster of paris. Is that possible?
Yep, that's possible. A lot of people use muffin tins. Wear safety glasses and preheat your casts! If there is any moisture in them it can cause the aluminum to splash or pop when it's poured throwing hot drops everywhere.
I would caution against using plaster for molds. Even when heated they can still retain moisture and pop molten metal out at you. Speaking from experience and fortunately didn't get splashed.
LOLStudiosMusic1 check out grant Thompson if you haven't already he has a lot of cool foundries that are pretty easy to make this one's great to if you can get a hold of plaster and sand but they are portable
LOLStudiosMusic1 Yep Grant Thompson (The King of Random) has a youtube channel that has a lot of good stuff.
Digging a hole digging a hole too much minecraft parodies
I literally had the idea to make an in-ground foundry/furnace in my head for the longest time and now I've stumbled upon this!! Lol awesome
A very sophisticated idea to build a furnace. Thx for the idea. Will try and if sucessful then i'll put the link in the comment for the video
you know what's a good fuel there?
Anthracite coal.
Need an idea? Throw in some gallium into molten aluminum. i wanna see what's happening to the gallium ..
Derk Jochems Huh, that's actually an interesting thought. I imagine it would just turn it straight to slag much faster
NightHawkInLight I think it would clean the impurities a little faster.
Derk Jochems
I'm 2 years late, but it would alloy together. Then, if you put the cooled chunk in water, it would produce a bunch of hydrogen, aluminum oxide, and the gallium could then be reused. Gallium makes aluminum react in water. It could power an engine, boiler, air motor, etc using old cans, leaving nothing but aluminum oxide.
THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH
Ingenious!! Great video too, thanks for sharing
Ah, a Dakota Fire Hole.
2:27 "with the crucible sitting directly on the holes." *FARTS*
i know lol but thats what it sounds like haha
Big pooted
what i mean by that is that when i go camping this is perfect for warmth during a needed time. what i thought about it is if digging a hole preserves heat then wouldn't that be a perfect way to cook with the titanium pots/pans, as well as to preserve heat for the camp fire on a cold night or any other needs that include heat. thank you again! i promise to like and subscribe, just as long as you make more vids like this.
I did this about a year ago trying to melt cans and I think I have the exact pot that you're using except one size bigger but everybody talked me out of it saying it's too good of a pot to use so. I tried to use a steel cap off a big pipe a friend of mine made but the empty weight of that still bucket was probably 40 to 50 lb and would probably hold 20 pounds of melted aluminum. I piped PVC underground and I used my leaf blower, just at idle. . So then I bought a crucible which came in broke so waited on the next one and then I broke it on the 2nd melt.. So I'm going to replace my screws first before I even start using my large pot. Glad I stumbled across this I may finally be able to pursue Milton all these cans which I got plenty of wood to use no worries there. Also went to the local hardware store called harbor freight and picked up one of those flamethrowers you hooked to a propane tank actually about two of them but once I tested one of them I was a little skeptical of the safety of it plus I got to get rid of this wood anyway.
Why didn't the steel melt, soften, or collapse from the fire like the world trade center? I'm confused by reality and science...
David Chase This fire wasn't anywhere near hot enough to melt the steel.
I know, I was being sarcastic to the sheeple who believe fire/jet fuel caused the world trade centers to collapse. Thank you for taking the time to acknowledge my statement. Have a good day.
No offense but he clearly said that steel needs much higher temperature to melt than aluminum
None taken but you completely missed the joke.
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One of the best videos ive seen in a long time. way to go
A Dakota fire pit is a wonderful thing! This will make casting so much cheaper, thank you!
I've used this method twice now, with a shop vac to stoke, and for fuel I've tried both charcoal and coal, worked like a charm both times. absolutely dirt cheap (heh heh) and produces very satisfying results.
great idea, i tried it today and it totaly works
Pretty cool! Overall good quality overall! Good job
Sweet! First thing I'm going to build on summer vacation
Great vid.....learned more in 4 min here then I did watching many other vids. Keep up the good work.
When I first saw how you were melting it I was concerned that it would not melt but amazingly it did melt great video
I thought your forge build was simple, but this is even more impressive.
useful knowledge, for many reasons. THANK YOU
I like your ideas keep up the good work , it has given me some to . Thanks for your video
That's awesome! Can't wait to see you make some cool stuff with that!
I loved this idea and will be making 1
Thank you for all your help
Im happy i found this i just dug a hole a few days ago. Ive got about 300lbs to melt and cast
This is how I melt aluminum since I don't have enough money to build the mini metal foundry Grant Thompson made yet. Keep making new videos they're really entertaining.
thanks i always go camping just out in the forest not a campsite but this will help a lot
Thanks for the insight. You have given me plenty of ideas for my next build. I have tried a couple of different methods neither worked as well as this. I think the world should look different upon refuse. It takes 1/3 of NSW power supply to turn bauxite into aluminium and yet we throw it in the bin every day! We need to stop thinking of the rubbish as refuse and start thinking of it as a source of ore. People who pick through are not scavengers, they are the new age miners! Aluminium , copper, old concrete (gravel and lime) wood pallets (energy source), scrap iron, plastic bottles (syngas and creosote through pyrolysis) and many other things are all objects of value. If one was so inclined one could make a good living of breaking down old car tires using old wood pallets as a fuel source, collecting the nails as an iron source, while heating a crucible to melt down cans and aluminium scrap. One could very easily generate, aluminium ingots, oil, syngas, iron scrap, and ash nitrates.
EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED.THNX, YOU GOT A NEW SUBSCRIBER.
I love this guy and would love to learn from him first hand.
this is really cool! it works perfectly, and using a hairdryer instead of a fan works really well! this is a great method, and i hope to use it again in the future!
Wow I really liked the video alot will be tell my friends and family about you page. Looking forward to see more. Thank you that was awesome
Really cool and simple idea. Simple ideas are the strongest
I am so excited to try this at home.
hey man, I enjoyed helping add some holes to that aluminum with you yesterday! good times! I was really surprised that the 9mm didn't punch right through!
Fantastic video! Thumbs up
I am a Hobby gunsmith and knife Maker and this idea is Great
This is very cool! Thank you
I LOVE backyard casting.
Wow that was amazing.
Very nice what I use for my air intake is the blower from an old vacuum duct taped to a simple vent pipe causes a constant positive pressure much better than a fan
Oh brilliant idea you are using , I can use this by using a group , thanks
This is amazing!
this was very helpful, my kids want to try making an anthill sculpture. Let the fun begin. Thanks....
Thats really smart , Nice video!
Nighthawkinlight your awesome dude keep up the great work