I have the Studio 290s, 235c and the 250p subwoofer. As a semi-professional musician(percussionist) I find my system to be very accurate and true to my musical ears. They also double up to make an awesome home theater. I've been rockin JBL speakers almost 25 years now and they always please! You can't go wrong at any price point with JBL. You can spend more and you can find some that sound better. But across the board it's hard to find a a more consistent brand. JBL are still used in more than half the movie theaters, arenas and other venues around the world. With that kind of reputation I think that about says it all!
I can't say it any better. I'm a former Audio/ video technician and long time home and car audio enthusiast. There's a reason JBL makes speakers that cost $75,000 a pair like the DD Everest Series and consumers in the know don't hesitate to shell out the money to buy them.
I had the jbl Northridge E250p powered sub at one time and it sounded amazing. These towers are posted for 275 used right now and I'm really thinking about getting them after seeing this teardown
I really don´t understand the product bashing. I bought the the Studio 290 and the other stuff from the studio 2 series like 235C center, 230 rear and 260P subwoofer. The loudspeakers are connected to an ONKYO RZ900. The Studio 290 are working in bi-wire/bi-amplification mode. I used before the the JBL ES Series. I heard before I bought the studio 2 series loudspeakers from HECO and Canton. The last two brands are famous brands in Germany. But the JBL studio 2 series sounds best in comparison to the other loudspeakers brands in the price range. I am really happy with the studio 2 series. The studio 2 series is in comparison to the JBL ES series more forceful and more palpable. Also it can be heard more niceties. I startet in 80´s with the JBL TLX series then I switched to Infinity Kappa 8.2 series and then to JBL ES series and now I am listening with JBL studio 2 series. In my opinion the studio 2 series is the best sounding loudspeaker series in its price range. I had never problems with JBL product quality. The loudspeakers working since many years perfect. I expect the same from the studio 2 series. And if a loudspeaker chassis is not build with die casting or the crossover is equipped with electrolyte capacitors with 85°C temperature versions instead of a 105° C temperature version it makes no difference regarding lifetime and sound quality in a loudspeaker. In my opinion it can be given a clear buy recommendation for the studio 2 series, and by the way the studio 2 series looks quite good in comparison to the previous JBL ES series.
Just received my studio 290s with 225c and 260p sub. Powered by a yamaha tsr-7810. I purchased everything including receiver and wiring for $1,200 US. The speakers were certified refurbished directly from JBL. However they look brand new. I can not believe the value and sound quality for this setup. I am truly impressed. I just need to purchase rears for a true surround sound. I don't get why they get so much hate either.
I believe it sounds good for you when you dont know any better. The fact that it sounds better then HECO or Canton means nothing as both of them nowadays produce Chinese crap too. HECO used to produce quality stuff made in Germany, but it was bought by American company VOXX who also owns brands like Jamo or Klipsh and they moved all the production to China, so it is basically just a brand name that they slap on crap to make it sell more. The same stuff applies to Canton. Just a name slapped on Chinese crap to make it sell better.
elukok I’ve had family come and watch movies. None of us are audiophiles. However they said the sound is amazing and sounds like the theater. I’m pretty sure you can get much better sound with other names brands. But for the price I paid I am extremely satisfied.
@@samuelolivares6671 Just dont think that it is some high end best od the class stuff just because it is from JBL and other marketing BS. But if you and other people using it are happy than that is all that matters and just keep enjoying it. Maybe stop watching videos and discussions like this to avoid people like me and others who would talk you into buying something else :D
speaker for 400 euros with 4 drivers (second-hand price of the iPhone) ... you can hardly expect hi- end technology for that price, but the truth is that they play very well for this low price, so I can say that JBLs have built a good sound for good-quality mass use for that price also have superb bass and modern sound I used lots of loudspeakers but when I let them play those for a while, my neighbors came to my door asking what was going on. this price for a 4-drivers speaker ... is very low and I think the criticisms are unfounded
They look good for the cash. Some internal bracing and damping , shielded for AV use and a genuine 3 way crossover. Nice to see the port was flared on the inside. The capacitors in the cross over look like the best place to begin with the fun of upgrading 😄
Exactly, and the sound stage, holographic imaging of these speakers are second to none in their class. Actually they perform way, way over their class. Dont be fooled by lower build quality, they easily outperform speakers with immaculate build quality and a price tag of thousands of dollars. These speakers truly amazes me every time I listen to them.
I can't understand the negative replies to this video. Yes, these are not high end components. But these speaker perform great. They sound much more refined than older JBL entry speakers (LX-series, for example). They work great for music and movies. It brings is with authority, yet refined. The bass is tight and plentiful. The low end fills up an average (European) living room with ease. The high frequencies are consistent over the room and do not fatigue. Very pleasant sound stage. The speakers are a bit shy in the mid-range for classical music, but that's the only flaw I hear. And I really like how they look. I own these. I paid 200 Euro (=230 USD) a piece. New. Please tell me where I can buy a set of NEW floorstanding speakers with solid wood cabinets and metal speaker rings for 400 Euro that perform just as well. :D
I agree with you. I have the JBL Studio 190 which should be identical to the Studio 280 aside from the redesigned cabinet. The speakers sound very good and are easily capable of loud volume levels for movies while also working very fell for music. If people are looking for cast frame drivers they should step up to Studio 5 series. Studio 1 & 2 series are a neutral sounding speaker with accurate frequency response and lots of bang for the buck.
You have never heard JBL 4300 legacy series studio monitors that almost every classic rock album were recorded on. New speakers can sound decent but, they are a total joke compared to 40 year old technology.
They Sound Good , I Understand That , But Danish And British Players Give Better Quality In All Aspects. And Finally This Tweeter Is A Joke , Sorry For JBL But Its True!!
Динамики такие же как в Northridge E-80, только на Вч волновод и рупор добавлен. Думаю и раздел полос в кроссовере от E-80, только детали другие. Итог: обновлённая легендарная Northridge E-80! Имею такой комплект с 2007 года, самостоятельно усилил стенки корпуса (вклеил по периметру внутренние распорки 3-и рамки), добавил синтепон на все стороны. Результатом удовлетворён на 100%, исчез «бубнёж», плотные и сфокусированные низкие частоты. Такую конструкцию в JBL надо было разработать 15 лет назад?!
Wonderful video! I like how you saved the made-in-China part, for the last view. I'm sure they sound okay. I have a set of JBL LX600, and guess what? Even though they are made in the USA, the build quality isn't much better. Same cheap particle board, laminated in black-grained plastic, the bottom peeled off over the years. The drivers - outsourced from France - have surprisingly small magnets, given the speakers' power rating. The driver connecting wires are a flimsy light gauge, which is funny because people probably go out and buy heavy gauge speaker wire going to the amp, thinking, this is "JBL" - right? The made-in-the-USA crossover board looks almost identical to the made-in-China board you show here. When the cheap foam surround on the woofer gave out, instead of re-foaming it, I replaced the lightweight driver with a real woofer (different brand), with a robust heavy-duty magnet. Sounds great. Listening to them now, in fact. If you want to look inside a real hi-fi speaker system, would love to see you take down an ADS 710 or 810. Built like a tank, and the sound, with dome midrange as well as dome tweeter, is breathtaking. It's on an entirely different level.
JBL (Harman International) are now fully-owned by Samsung. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung cut costs using Chinese OEM products and renaming / relabeling them.
The main disadvantage of inexpensive speakers is the crossovers. First of all in these loudspeakers I recommend turning the phase on the upper terminals.
hey haters...jbl still makes great stuff this is just entry level and i imagine the sound is good for the buck. well braced and decent foam plus large volume for bass....
Yah, I'm a hater! Those drivers could be bought for about 5 to 10 dollars each at most (consumer price) 1or2 dollars JBL price! The magnets are not as big as they look. That is shielding for old TVs.
You obviously know nothing about speakers. Large magnets aren't always needed and aren't necessarily a sign of good design or quality. You don't need to be a body builder to turn the page of a book, do you?
In South Africa the cost on this is R24000 +/-. I have a pair of NeXt speakers, way way way cheaper. I compared my speakers and the components of my speakers to the JBL 280 and all of a sudden I dont feel bad about my speakers. Drivers is very simular, my tweeters is way better as well as my crossovers components is of higher standard. It is mostly of brand or brand name. Never the less I am happy with my cheapie speakers.
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@audioman628 Made in China, says it all. A good way how to avoid all the crap is to buy USA/EU/Japan only made stuff, because it is not worth it to make crap at these places.
@@elukok lol Say what? Most speaker companies source their individual drivers off China. I can count on one hand the number of companies that actually makes their own drivers. Japanese audio has long been gone since the 90s when their assembly plants moved to Southeast Asia.
@@automachinehead There are still plenty of manufacturers who use all-non chinese parts. A few that I am able to rembeber right now - RCF, Genelec, Focal, DB Audio, Dynaudio, KV2 Audio, Xavian and many others. If you want to avoid China and not pay for high end, buy older speakers. Most of the well know vitange brands made evrything themselfs back then.
Бля, почитал коменты, ну все такие умные, все все знают, а сами слушают бумбоксы.... JBL это знак добротного и качественного HI FI, и не надо трендить, в 70 - 90х годах о таких системах даже и не мечтали, верхом звука считались убогие 35 АС 001 или японские системы которые изготавливались из картона и ничего не весили, как в смысле звука так и в смысле веса!!!!!
Not bad speakers for decent price I wish JBL put little more effort on the Xover with better caps etc but I've seen worst Xover in a $10k speakers using cheap xover with cheap caps that cost $9 "if" that speakers manufacturers doing this BS should be shame themselves. By the way good video👍
Great Channel !! Keep in mind that every manufacturer only spends about 1/5 of the price of the speaker on the cabinet and parts, drivers. That is why they use the cheapest crossover parts , cabinets, and drivers. If you have the skill to build cabinets you can have a much better speaker by getting a kit.
@@droidzhunterz6861 the best thing to do is replace the cheep crossover parts with better quality parts . As soon as you replace the drivers in a speaker you will need to design a new crossover . Watch Danny Richie's channel GR Research.
JBL (Harman International) are now fully-owned by Samsung. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung cut costs using Chinese OEM products and renaming / relabeling them.
@@williamblackwell9558 No, it's not that easy and I advise agains making crossover mods without having a way of making measurements. Even if it's just replacing with lower ESR/DCR components, as the decreased impedance can make a filter overshoot (resonate) more, which can actually hurt the sound and, in the worst case, overheat the amp. The impedance of the components has been accounted for in the design.
when I was still working, I did some work at JBL in Northridge, Ca. This is not JBL. I also have some old school JBL, this is not JBL, I hope............
Is there a way to test the specs of a driver to see if it stayed on specs after all those years? I mean, yeah, we can test for continuity in the coil and even measure the DC resistance, but that's not all of it. I know professionally it can be done, but from an amateur point of view, is there something we can test with a simple multimeter? Thanks.
2 BASS drivers for each speaker? So 4 in total and after that are you still using a Subwoofer? Especially your bass drivers got pretty big magnetic. I made by myself Floorstanding speakers with 3 drivers+1 Tweeter, at first installed with 1 Bass+2 regular+1Tw and after that i couldn't hear any sound from my SUB. Speakers were taking all bass sound from Subwoofer and it was look like fake surround. So i used just all 3 reg+1tw and now they sound much better and i can hear Sub too.
Hello mere pas 5200 ka 8 mosfet wala amplifier he to mey 10inch aur 8inch woofer ka do box bana na chahta hu to mey yeh janna chahtahu k mey dono woofer kitni waat ka lagau.
Thanks for the look inside. Now I know to never buy JBL speakers. That background music was painful to sit through though. Don't know what you were thinking there...
They may be cheap, but you could easily upgrade all the components and chamber the Drivers to create more efficient sound. Or get rid of the bottom driver and find a decent 6.5 inch sub driver that will get down to 30-35hz and chamber that into a small ported system with pvc piping inside. Use the other driver crossed at 500hz-2,500hz Keep the midrange and upgrade a better crossover 2,500hz-10,000hz Replace that filling with foam inside. And scrap that tweeter for something like a real horn tweeter. The cabinets are good, and input terminals are good.
The only way to get the speakers that will rock your world is to get out and go listen to them before you buy. Reviews are helpful. But we each have our own opinion on what sounds good. A lot of reviewers have hidden agendas. Like they sell or get a comission for that particular brand or speaker. There are a lot of speakers out there that are very good. It's hard to find two different speakers that sound the same but both are very good sounding. You've got to listen to them before you buy. I learned the hard way.
Garbage advice. Since the frequency response of a speaker changes depending on the room dimensions it is placed in, you must test them in the actual room you intend to use them.
I bought a set of bose 301 v by listening to so called experts. Horrible sounding speakers. Like listening to a speaker with a muffler on it. So now I go check them out myself and what you hear is the what they could sound like. Maybe better at your place. At least you have a starting point. I'll never take the word of someone else again. Listen before you buy. Less likely to be disappointed and have to rebox and take back. I ended up with jbl 290s and 280s and couldn't be happier.
@@randywhite6539 Speakers you hear in a store will sound different in your room. That is well established a fact in the audio world, and why many companies offer try out periods with free return if it doesn't sound good in your living space.
@@droidzhunterz6861 You are right. Dimensions, carpet,no carpet,where funiture is placed,and even acoustic ceilings make a difference. Just like I have to move my speakers away from the back wall about twenty inches to get them to respond correctly. I spent hours arranging and rearranging. Someone else might come in and not like it. But to me it's my little piece of heaven. They can buy their own.
Why there is not a jbl label behind the speaker magnet.?OS is true that al branded speakers have no icon label behind the speakers. I have dali speakers they have iconic label behind the magnet
Gostaria se possivel saber a largura comprimento e altura dessa caixa e a distância do ultimo alto falante de baixo para final parte inferior da caixa?
These are JBL entry level speakers and good for the price. Usually the cabinet is made in China but the drivers are USA made. I have some from back in 92 they are USA made drivers except the tweeter is a vifa titanium.
Pretty good value for money by comparison. drivers probably 120all in UK. crossovers 20 for both. then wood.... Most loudspeaker companies are 10 percent parts 90 percent everything else so these are good value for money.
Hola Tengo unas Polk Audio RtI-10 en una sala de 24m2. Qué te parece su calidad de sonido y construcción? Para mejorar en un sonido limpio y neutro qué me aconsejas? Gracias y un saludo desde España!
strange how jbl has lowered their standards so much i'm sure people would pay for an expensive jbl speaker. I have jbl l15 speakers, the cheapest that jbl had to offer in 1981 and those costed more than what these cost if you adjust for inflation. They do still remake their classic speakers like the l100 but it would be nice to see new designs from them with the excellent build quality they used to have with real wood veneer and made in America. It feels like they just use what's left of the reputation of jbl to market their cheap home and portable speakers.
The drivers probably cost no more than $50 in total. These are constantly on sale for more than 50% off. That means JBL is still making a profit on a steep price slash.
No bracing. Flimsy cabinet. No added mass to internal cabinet walls. No silicon gaskets. Low quality X over, full of elektrolitics, and by pass . A 20 euro solution, but JBL thinks about a cent of profit!!!! Real JBL costs 20.000 apiece
Yep, you are %100 right ! That crossover is a $15-20 and the worst quality with electrolytic capacitors... they didn't even use any MKT caps :) (and I'm not even mentioning MKP caps) That inductor coil is a joke... No need to comment on the drivers, pathetic !
Not enough "JBL vs. (Polk or whatever)" videos....Black Friday has me looking Lol Considering the Polk RTi A7's or JBL 190's. Both on sale for about $700 a pair. Miss the days of speaker listening rooms. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks for showing me the size and quality of the 280's ;)
Для своей цены в 30т.руб.отличные колонки.по акции за 23 т.руб так ваше халява.и не надо трындеть про говно.врубал на полную с онкио 705,так никаких хрипов и бубнений не услышал. Но один трек прослушать тяжело,мозг закипает,соседи прибегают.
woofer seems Looks like Sony 6 Ohms ,old model, Hybrith Dual Woofer Compoment Speaker, but the Cones looks like a cheaper anf ordinary, Compare to Polypropelyn plastics materials of Sony woofer caps,tweeter seems so small and low quality that easily to breaks ,but thats a good soundQuality of Soft Dolby Base Surround
Вы хоть в живую слышали ,слушали JBL Studio280 ? Купил их и не жалею ,200 настоящих ватт , стоваттный усилок сони , регулятор громкости на 10 часов уже хватает ,бас бомба , навалом,на 12 часов ставил только раз ,слишком громко.До них были Электроника 75 АС 065(одна из лучших советских акустик , вес 40 кг одна колонка, s 90 рядом не стояли), если кто в теме ,чуйка у них поменьше, мощи тоже , их слушал регулятор на 12 часов на меньшей громкости звук не очень. Кому-то магниты маленькие ,может они неодимовые, кому-то дров мало ( корпус), хотя за 500 баксов чего хотят? "Утопию" так там цена космос
@@whiteofsoul Ведь написано "может" , и нет нигде данных какие магниты в них установлены , хотя вч динамики вроде как ниодимовые , но это тоже не точно
@@Счастливый-р9ъ да ну, 100 настоящих Вт это не так много. Другое дело, что мало кто пишет реальную мощность, у большинства производителей ватты нужно делить на 10 или больше.
200 Вт настоящих))Тебе от сотки тошно в комнате станет..при условии что хотябы герц 40 снизу услышишь..Эти динамики из наушников сгорят,приняв 0,1кВт...И о да,я лично слышал их!!В сравнении с хорошим муз центром нулевых,они может получше звучат.А с нормальным винтажом присядут на бутылку и будут дёргаться на ней,как их комподинамики
Many modern tweeters now use neodymium-iron-boron (NdFeB) magnets because they are 10 times as strong as a ferrite magnet (the black donut type) by weight, and that enables the motor assembly of the tweeter to be very small. A lot of OEM car audio and pro sound speakers are now using them because of the much lighter overall weight, however they are more expensive so in consumer products they are reserved for applications where mass reduction is of the most value.
Вот именно поэтому у меня только винтаж и будет дальше..Вскройте любого немца или рисоеда года 80го и вы всплакнёте от качества сборки и комплектующих..
Looks like a made in garage crossover. Here are my made in garage speakers that I threw together back in 1978. imgur . com/a/VIARZn5 ( Remove Spaces ) But the crossovers did not use electrolytic capacitors in these antique babies.
JBL has now been bought by Samsung so it's only going to get worse you won't be able to buy even JBL Parts before long so if you have old speakers you better start grabbing up stuff to recone or resuround your speakers
I have the Studio 290s, 235c and the 250p subwoofer. As a semi-professional musician(percussionist) I find my system to be very accurate and true to my musical ears. They also double up to make an awesome home theater. I've been rockin JBL speakers almost 25 years now and they always please! You can't go wrong at any price point with JBL. You can spend more and you can find some that sound better. But across the board it's hard to find a a more consistent brand. JBL are still used in more than half the movie theaters, arenas and other venues around the world. With that kind of reputation I think that about says it all!
I can't say it any better. I'm a former Audio/ video technician and long time home and car audio enthusiast. There's a reason JBL makes speakers that cost $75,000 a pair like the DD Everest Series and consumers in the know don't hesitate to shell out the money to buy them.
@@audiofanatic7377 Thank you and well said sir. Stay safe!
I had the jbl Northridge E250p powered sub at one time and it sounded amazing. These towers are posted for 275 used right now and I'm really thinking about getting them after seeing this teardown
I really don´t understand the product bashing. I bought the the Studio 290 and the other stuff from the studio 2 series like
235C center, 230 rear and 260P subwoofer. The loudspeakers are connected to an ONKYO RZ900. The Studio 290 are working
in bi-wire/bi-amplification mode. I used before the the JBL ES Series. I heard before I bought the studio 2 series loudspeakers from HECO and Canton.
The last two brands are famous brands in Germany. But the JBL studio 2 series sounds best in comparison to the other loudspeakers brands in the price range. I am really happy with the studio 2 series. The studio 2 series is in comparison to the JBL ES series more forceful and more palpable. Also it can be heard more niceties. I startet in 80´s with the JBL TLX series then I switched to Infinity Kappa 8.2 series and then to JBL ES series and now I am listening with JBL studio 2 series. In my opinion the studio 2 series is the best sounding loudspeaker series in its price range. I had never problems with JBL product quality. The loudspeakers working since many years perfect. I expect the same from the studio 2 series. And if a loudspeaker chassis is not build with die casting or the crossover is equipped with electrolyte capacitors with 85°C temperature versions instead of a 105° C temperature version it makes no difference regarding lifetime and sound quality in a loudspeaker. In my opinion it can be given a clear buy recommendation for the studio 2 series, and by the way the studio 2 series looks quite good in comparison to the previous JBL ES series.
Just received my studio 290s with 225c and 260p sub. Powered by a yamaha tsr-7810. I purchased everything including receiver and wiring for $1,200 US. The speakers were certified refurbished directly from JBL. However they look brand new. I can not believe the value and sound quality for this setup. I am truly impressed. I just need to purchase rears for a true surround sound. I don't get why they get so much hate either.
I believe it sounds good for you when you dont know any better.
The fact that it sounds better then HECO or Canton means nothing as both of them nowadays produce Chinese crap too.
HECO used to produce quality stuff made in Germany, but it was bought by American company VOXX who also owns brands like Jamo or Klipsh and they moved all the production to China, so it is basically just a brand name that they slap on crap to make it sell more.
The same stuff applies to Canton. Just a name slapped on Chinese crap to make it sell better.
elukok I’ve had family come and watch movies. None of us are audiophiles. However they said the sound is amazing and sounds like the theater. I’m pretty sure you can get much better sound with other names brands. But for the price I paid I am extremely satisfied.
@@samuelolivares6671 Just dont think that it is some high end best od the class stuff just because it is from JBL and other marketing BS.
But if you and other people using it are happy than that is all that matters and just keep enjoying it.
Maybe stop watching videos and discussions like this to avoid people like me and others who would talk you into buying something else :D
elukok that’s why I started building my own. It’s fun and less expensive.
speaker for 400 euros with 4 drivers (second-hand price of the iPhone)
... you can hardly expect hi- end technology for that price, but the truth is that they play very well for this low price, so I can say that JBLs have built a good sound for good-quality mass use for that price
also have superb bass and modern sound
I used lots of loudspeakers but when I let them play those for a while, my neighbors came to my door asking what was going on.
this price for a 4-drivers speaker ... is very low and I think the criticisms are unfounded
They look good for the cash. Some internal bracing and damping , shielded for AV use and a genuine 3 way crossover. Nice to see the port was flared on the inside. The capacitors in the cross over look like the best place to begin with the fun of upgrading 😄
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Exactly, and the sound stage, holographic imaging of these speakers are second to none in their class. Actually they perform way, way over their class.
Dont be fooled by lower build quality, they easily outperform speakers with immaculate build quality and a price tag of thousands of dollars.
These speakers truly amazes me every time I listen to them.
I can't understand the negative replies to this video. Yes, these are not high end components. But these speaker perform great. They sound much more refined than older JBL entry speakers (LX-series, for example). They work great for music and movies. It brings is with authority, yet refined. The bass is tight and plentiful. The low end fills up an average (European) living room with ease. The high frequencies are consistent over the room and do not fatigue. Very pleasant sound stage. The speakers are a bit shy in the mid-range for classical music, but that's the only flaw I hear. And I really like how they look.
I own these. I paid 200 Euro (=230 USD) a piece. New. Please tell me where I can buy a set of NEW floorstanding speakers with solid wood cabinets and metal speaker rings for 400 Euro that perform just as well. :D
I agree with you. I have the JBL Studio 190 which should be identical to the Studio 280 aside from the redesigned cabinet. The speakers sound very good and are easily capable of loud volume levels for movies while also working very fell for music. If people are looking for cast frame drivers they should step up to Studio 5 series. Studio 1 & 2 series are a neutral sounding speaker with accurate frequency response and lots of bang for the buck.
JBLs aren´t really designed for classical music i think... they are made for bass :D
You have never heard JBL 4300 legacy series studio monitors that almost every classic rock album were recorded on. New speakers can sound decent but, they are a total joke compared to 40 year old technology.
They Sound Good , I Understand That , But Danish And British Players Give Better Quality In All Aspects.
And Finally This Tweeter Is A Joke , Sorry For JBL But Its True!!
@@Panos125S Yeah, the tweeter is a joke! It's so tiny! Yeah, I like Dali for example :D
Динамики такие же как в Northridge E-80, только на Вч волновод и рупор добавлен. Думаю и раздел полос в кроссовере от E-80, только детали другие. Итог: обновлённая легендарная Northridge E-80! Имею такой комплект с 2007 года, самостоятельно усилил стенки корпуса (вклеил по периметру внутренние распорки 3-и рамки), добавил синтепон на все стороны. Результатом удовлетворён на 100%, исчез «бубнёж», плотные и сфокусированные низкие частоты. Такую конструкцию в JBL надо было разработать 15 лет назад?!
Love my studio 190's. Retailed over $1000 but got them for $300 a pair so i grabbed 4
Wonderful video! I like how you saved the made-in-China part, for the last view. I'm sure they sound okay. I have a set of JBL LX600, and guess what? Even though they are made in the USA, the build quality isn't much better. Same cheap particle board, laminated in black-grained plastic, the bottom peeled off over the years. The drivers - outsourced from France - have surprisingly small magnets, given the speakers' power rating. The driver connecting wires are a flimsy light gauge, which is funny because people probably go out and buy heavy gauge speaker wire going to the amp, thinking, this is "JBL" - right? The made-in-the-USA crossover board looks almost identical to the made-in-China board you show here. When the cheap foam surround on the woofer gave out, instead of re-foaming it, I replaced the lightweight driver with a real woofer (different brand), with a robust heavy-duty magnet. Sounds great. Listening to them now, in fact.
If you want to look inside a real hi-fi speaker system, would love to see you take down an ADS 710 or 810. Built like a tank, and the sound, with dome midrange as well as dome tweeter, is breathtaking. It's on an entirely different level.
JBL (Harman International) are now fully-owned by Samsung. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung cut costs using Chinese OEM products and renaming / relabeling them.
As cheep as possible...
I mean the production of the speaker, not the price.
cheap*
yeah
It has less internal bracing than my 2003 LXs
JBL, racing to the bottom on build quality?
2 6" woofers and only hits 40hz that should tell you how awful these are
More bracing than i would hv expected
The main disadvantage of inexpensive speakers is the crossovers. First of all in these loudspeakers I recommend turning the phase on the upper terminals.
Is this something an inexperienced layman can do? Asking for myself. Want to make the best of these speakers if I buy them.
One exception is Elac; especially when Andrew Jones was there.
hey haters...jbl still makes great stuff this is just entry level and i imagine the sound is good for the buck. well braced and decent foam plus large volume for bass....
Yah, I'm a hater! Those drivers could be bought for about 5 to 10 dollars each at most (consumer price) 1or2 dollars JBL price! The magnets are not as big as they look. That is shielding for old TVs.
You obviously know nothing about speakers. Large magnets aren't always needed and aren't necessarily a sign of good design or quality. You don't need to be a body builder to turn the page of a book, do you?
In South Africa the cost on this is R24000 +/-. I have a pair of NeXt speakers, way way way cheaper.
I compared my speakers and the components of my speakers to the JBL 280 and all of a sudden I dont feel bad about my speakers. Drivers is very simular, my tweeters is way better as well as my crossovers components is of higher standard.
It is mostly of brand or brand name. Never the less I am happy with my cheapie speakers.
THANKS for making video ,its keeps us update whats going on, under the hood
All Paradigm drivers are identified by manufacturer: PARADIGM Canadian made and engineered. High value for sound quality and longevity.
They look pretty crap
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@@РуфатШиралиев-п9и yes but you are ready to pay 20k $ each? :)))
Actual Paradigm Premier and upper lines are all made in Canada, the Entry level lines are now made in China :)))
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I love my JAMO C6 series speakers. Probably around the same price and no comparison
Ever since JBL closed it's Northridge factory and moved to Mexico, they've made mediocre crap.
@audioman628 Made in China, says it all.
A good way how to avoid all the crap is to buy USA/EU/Japan only made stuff, because it is not worth it to make crap at these places.
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@@elukok lol Say what? Most speaker companies source their individual drivers off China. I can count on one hand the number of companies that actually makes their own drivers. Japanese audio has long been gone since the 90s when their assembly plants moved to Southeast Asia.
@@automachinehead There are still plenty of manufacturers who use all-non chinese parts.
A few that I am able to rembeber right now - RCF, Genelec, Focal, DB Audio, Dynaudio, KV2 Audio, Xavian and many others.
If you want to avoid China and not pay for high end, buy older speakers. Most of the well know vitange brands made evrything themselfs back then.
What I see ??? JBL E80
in a new box
Yes!
@@СергейДенисов-и8т там фазик спереди , а тут и к стене не подвинешь.
Бля, почитал коменты, ну все такие умные, все все знают, а сами слушают бумбоксы.... JBL это знак добротного и качественного HI FI, и не надо трендить, в 70 - 90х годах о таких системах даже и не мечтали, верхом звука считались убогие 35 АС 001 или японские системы которые изготавливались из картона и ничего не весили, как в смысле звука так и в смысле веса!!!!!
tengo unas whaferdale kingsdale 15" inglesas de los 70 q las hace bailar trompo a estas jbl studio 280 q tambien tengo...
Not bad speakers for decent price I wish JBL put little more effort on the Xover with better caps etc but I've seen worst Xover in a $10k speakers using cheap xover with cheap caps that cost $9 "if" that speakers manufacturers doing this BS should be shame themselves. By the way good video👍
Great Channel !! Keep in mind that every manufacturer only spends about 1/5 of the price of the speaker on the cabinet and parts, drivers. That is why they use the cheapest crossover parts , cabinets, and drivers. If you have the skill to build cabinets you can have a much better speaker by getting a kit.
I have the 290's. Was thinking of putting in better woofers. Do you think it would improve the sound?
@@droidzhunterz6861 the best thing to do is replace the cheep crossover parts with better quality parts . As soon as you replace the drivers in a speaker you will need to design a new crossover . Watch Danny Richie's channel GR Research.
JBL (Harman International) are now fully-owned by Samsung. Wouldn't be surprised if Samsung cut costs using Chinese OEM products and renaming / relabeling them.
@@williamblackwell9558
No, it's not that easy and I advise agains making crossover mods without having a way of making measurements. Even if it's just replacing with lower ESR/DCR components, as the decreased impedance can make a filter overshoot (resonate) more, which can actually hurt the sound and, in the worst case, overheat the amp.
The impedance of the components has been accounted for in the design.
@@westelaudio943 That's why I told him to watch Danny's channel.
Я чуть с ума не сошёл от этого звукового сопровождения.
А надо было!
Thanks for making this video. One of my speaker is giving rattling sound on medium volume. Do you have any idea could it be in woofer or in box ??.
when I was still working, I did some work at JBL in Northridge, Ca. This is not JBL. I also have some old school JBL, this is not JBL, I hope............
Designed and engineered by Harman, California. Build in China. So not really JBL...
Thanks for doing this video,you can learn a lot from looking inside the cabinets :-)
thank you for this work 👌✔ and happy new year man ✌
it doesn't look like high end to me, am I right?
If you want better sound you'll likely have to spend double the money.
@@brydon10 or throw away money on crap like this
@@215alessio I mean you have to hear them first...
Hi I am not able to remove the tweeter cover
Kindly guide me how to remove . because my tweeter is blown and need to replace
Is there a way to test the specs of a driver to see if it stayed on specs after all those years? I mean, yeah, we can test for continuity in the coil and even measure the DC resistance, but that's not all of it. I know professionally it can be done, but from an amateur point of view, is there something we can test with a simple multimeter? Thanks.
No.
You can measure them with a (decent) PC sound card and some additional curcuitry though.
Wow I never knew this channel existed. It's so satisfying.
2 BASS drivers for each speaker? So 4 in total and after that are you still using a Subwoofer? Especially your bass drivers got pretty big magnetic.
I made by myself Floorstanding speakers with 3 drivers+1 Tweeter, at first installed with 1 Bass+2 regular+1Tw and after that i couldn't hear any sound from my SUB. Speakers were taking all bass sound from Subwoofer and it was look like fake surround.
So i used just all 3 reg+1tw and now they sound much better and i can hear Sub too.
What's a good quality equipment from JBL for outside/outdoor low to medium volume with similar sound quality to JBL Studio 280 please?
Waterproof wire terminals?... looks good to me.
Hello mere pas 5200 ka 8 mosfet wala amplifier he to mey 10inch aur 8inch woofer ka do box bana na chahta hu to mey yeh janna chahtahu k mey dono woofer kitni waat ka lagau.
Thanks for the look inside. Now I know to never buy JBL speakers. That background music was painful to sit through though. Don't know what you were thinking there...
German speakers, American speakers. They're all made in Taiwan!
@@brianterrill9587 all recent speakers are cheap, no brand is an exception.
at this price point all speakers are roughly the same inside
What's up with these microscopic tweeters that jbl is using across arena, studio and stage series speakers?
Onde compro o tweeter da caixa em questão? o meu queimou um?
One thing missing is that audio demo was not recorded.
Jgk
Excellent! Painstaking finishing.
I love this brand.
All electrolytic capacitors and mostly in-core inductors in the x-over = not really what I would call high-end.
They may be cheap, but you could easily upgrade all the components and chamber the
Drivers to create more efficient sound.
Or get rid of the bottom driver and find a decent 6.5 inch sub driver that will get down to 30-35hz and chamber that into a small ported system with pvc piping inside.
Use the other driver crossed at 500hz-2,500hz
Keep the midrange and upgrade a better crossover 2,500hz-10,000hz
Replace that filling with foam inside.
And scrap that tweeter for something like a real horn tweeter.
The cabinets are good, and input terminals are good.
I think i might try that. I have the larger 290 with dual 8", 3" midrange and same shitty tweeter, in a fake horn waveguide
What tweeters would you recommend for this speaker? Thanks
@@djerick13 electrostatic
The only way to get the speakers that will rock your world is to get out and go listen to them before you buy. Reviews are helpful. But we each have our own opinion on what sounds good. A lot of reviewers have hidden agendas. Like they sell or get a comission for that particular brand or speaker. There are a lot of speakers out there that are very good. It's hard to find two different speakers that sound the same but both are very good sounding. You've got to listen to them before you buy. I learned the hard way.
Garbage advice. Since the frequency response of a speaker changes depending on the room dimensions it is placed in, you must test them in the actual room you intend to use them.
I bought a set of bose 301 v by listening to so called experts. Horrible sounding speakers. Like listening to a speaker with a muffler on it. So now I go check them out myself and what you hear is the what they could sound like. Maybe better at your place. At least you have a starting point. I'll never take the word of someone else again. Listen before you buy. Less likely to be disappointed and have to rebox and take back. I ended up with jbl 290s and 280s and couldn't be happier.
@@randywhite6539 Speakers you hear in a store will sound different in your room.
That is well established a fact in the audio world, and why many companies offer try out periods with free return if it doesn't sound good in your living space.
@@droidzhunterz6861 You are right. Dimensions, carpet,no carpet,where funiture is placed,and even acoustic ceilings make a difference. Just like I have to move my speakers away from the back wall about twenty inches to get them to respond correctly. I spent hours arranging and rearranging. Someone else might come in and not like it. But to me it's my little piece of heaven. They can buy their own.
Why there is not a jbl label behind the speaker magnet.?OS is true that al branded speakers have no icon label behind the speakers. I have dali speakers they have iconic label behind the magnet
JBL are one of the best out there.....😍
Lol that's funny. Jbl literally makes fucking garbage
@@patrickrosington1174 Even Sony is better than JBL.
Not this series, pure trash. Why do you think they sell them regularly for 60% off.
Gostaria se possivel saber a largura comprimento e altura dessa caixa e a distância do ultimo alto falante de baixo para final parte inferior da caixa?
These are JBL entry level speakers and good for the price. Usually the cabinet is made in China but the drivers are USA made. I have some from back in 92 they are USA made drivers except the tweeter is a vifa titanium.
Pretty good value for money by comparison. drivers probably 120all in UK. crossovers 20 for both. then wood.... Most loudspeaker companies are 10 percent parts 90 percent everything else so these are good value for money.
Do you need a subwoofer to get a fullrange audio with JBL Studio 280?
No they are very bassy speakers. You can fit your arm into the port on the back
@@droidzhunterz6861 Thank you so much
Hola
Tengo unas Polk Audio RtI-10 en una sala de 24m2. Qué te parece su calidad de sonido y construcción? Para mejorar en un sonido limpio y neutro qué me aconsejas? Gracias y un saludo desde España!
strange how jbl has lowered their standards so much i'm sure people would pay for an expensive jbl speaker. I have jbl l15 speakers, the cheapest that jbl had to offer in 1981 and those costed more than what these cost if you adjust for inflation. They do still remake their classic speakers like the l100 but it would be nice to see new designs from them with the excellent build quality they used to have with real wood veneer and made in America. It feels like they just use what's left of the reputation of jbl to market their cheap home and portable speakers.
JBL now own by Samsung. portable speakers now is their main priority it seem.
Can you show The crossover conecction, please???
can you throw some light on crossovers .
My JBL STAGE 190tweeter is blown SO I NEEDED THIS VIDEO TO OPEN AND SEND FOR REPAIR
How much do these speakers cost? I would estimate that the drivers in total would be no more than $100, and $20 for the cabinet.
The drivers probably cost no more than $50 in total. These are constantly on sale for more than 50% off. That means JBL is still making a profit on a steep price slash.
Cross over looks cheap and speaker frames look Cheap. Not a great build.
Thas not true at all, speaker frames are top quality, built like a tank
where to buy the screw for mounting the speaker onto the cabinet? thanks,
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Кто нибудь сравнивал Studio и Stage
Já vi caixas DIY com maior qualidade de componentes, parabéns pelo vídeo!!
Com toda certeza! Essas estão focadas em custo baixo e lucro alto... Infelizmente o cuidado não é dos maiores...
Tengo estas cajas 7 años y hago fiestas a todo dar hasta ahora y nunca se han roto... Con un hk 3770. Y en sonido, ni oara q contarte... Jijii
Ну и чем они отличаются от 2004 ?
У тех фазик был спереди, из-за чего они были менее капризны к установке, и дизайн был по лучше и покупали их тогда за копейки.
nice bro nice work
Magnetic sheilding is not needed with modern LED tv's
Why do they still shield their speakers?
They have a surplus of crappy units to get rid of
How much watts 4 vintage jbls is where thare at try the new serwin vagas for us and maybe the new cinama jbls
Your comment makes no sense WHATSOEVER...
What!? its not a bass boost its a distortion damm!!
Really why magnetic sheilding also the dustcap and everything look like sony drivers
Price plz
What's the music for this video?
Thanks
Very expensive for the quality
Are you right
price
Don't bother putting those outer rings back on looks sexier without them unless they are needed for the overall sound quality.
nice job- this guy must work for Harman-Kardon
これは日本では￥70000/1本で販売されている高級スピーカーですね。part expressで￥3000ぐらいで買えるような格安ユニットですね。だからもうメーカー製のスピーカーは買わずに自分で作っているのです。2本で￥140000も予算があるなら、箱のエンクロージャーを東急ハンズでカットしてもらい2.5万円で作り、スピーカー・ユニットはもっと高級なものを買うことができます。一時期、銅の値段が高騰してコイルの値段がバカ高くなってとてもネットワークを利用するスピーカーを作るのを控えていましたが、今はもう大丈夫でしょう。やっぱりスピーカーはユニットが良くなければ良い音は期待できません。もちろんエンクロージャーの工夫も必要ですが、それは良いユニットがあってこそ生きるものです。格安のユニットを作る場合は予算的に限られている場合に選択する手段ですが、完成当初は新鮮で嬉しいですが、やがて何かが足りないと気が付き飽きてしまいます。ですからもし予算が許すなら高級ユニットを使用したものを作るのが精神衛生上も良いと思います。自作スピーカーを予算が違うだけで手間ひまは同じですから。一度作ったエンクロージャーを再利用して新しいユニット用に作り直すのは結構大変な手間がかかります。また妥協も必要になってきます。
How to buy
No bracing. Flimsy cabinet. No added mass to internal cabinet walls. No silicon gaskets. Low quality X over, full of elektrolitics, and by pass . A 20 euro solution, but JBL thinks about a cent of profit!!!! Real JBL costs 20.000 apiece
Yep, you are %100 right !
That crossover is a $15-20 and the worst quality with electrolytic capacitors... they didn't even use any MKT caps :) (and I'm not even mentioning MKP caps)
That inductor coil is a joke... No need to comment on the drivers, pathetic !
i own jbl nd310 19years old 3 way speaker this the same design but smaller there not bad
period
if u open ur eyes when he shows the inside of the cabinet u can see there is bracing :D
@@MrDannydjmix2 lot !!!!@@@@@@@###
@@MrDannydjmix2 he doesnt even know what the word means
Isso sim um som de alto padrão👍
Verdade, eu tenho a studio 180, só com um médio e um grave. Pena que o divisor de frequencia queimou
Электролиты копейешные в фильтре стоят, а где же "аудио конденсаторы" по 1000 руб за штуку?
Not enough "JBL vs. (Polk or whatever)" videos....Black Friday has me looking Lol Considering the Polk RTi A7's or JBL 190's. Both on sale for about $700 a pair. Miss the days of speaker listening rooms. Any feedback appreciated. Thanks for showing me the size and quality of the 280's ;)
Для своей цены в 30т.руб.отличные колонки.по акции за 23 т.руб так ваше халява.и не надо трындеть про говно.врубал на полную с онкио 705,так никаких хрипов и бубнений не услышал. Но один трек прослушать тяжело,мозг закипает,соседи прибегают.
Привет
Скажи стоит поменять JBL 280 на Heco Aurora 700 , или нет смысла …..
You can ask for the dimensions of the column??
Height: 1125 mm. Width: 235 mm. Depth: 285 mm. Weight: >20 kg. (Bi-wiring is possible).
Whisky price kya hai
Seems kinda crap for a JBL Studio, no?
look very similar to northridge and es series an studio 1
woofer seems Looks like Sony 6 Ohms ,old model, Hybrith Dual Woofer Compoment Speaker, but the Cones looks like a cheaper anf ordinary, Compare to Polypropelyn plastics materials of Sony woofer caps,tweeter seems so small and low quality that easily to breaks ,but thats a good soundQuality of Soft Dolby Base Surround
Каждая секунда видео говорит о бюджетности колонок
Посмотри на монитор сильвер!
А цена не говорит об их бюджетности?
Вы хоть в живую слышали ,слушали JBL Studio280 ? Купил их и не жалею ,200 настоящих ватт , стоваттный усилок сони , регулятор громкости на 10 часов уже хватает ,бас бомба , навалом,на 12 часов ставил только раз ,слишком громко.До них были Электроника 75 АС 065(одна из лучших советских акустик , вес 40 кг одна колонка, s 90 рядом не стояли), если кто в теме ,чуйка у них поменьше, мощи тоже , их слушал регулятор на 12 часов на меньшей громкости звук не очень. Кому-то магниты маленькие ,может они неодимовые, кому-то дров мало ( корпус), хотя за 500 баксов чего хотят? "Утопию" так там цена космос
Ты бы глянул сколько стоят очень хорошие дины на неодимовых магнитах. Весь лоу енд на ферите.
@@whiteofsoul Ведь написано "может" , и нет нигде данных какие магниты в них установлены , хотя вч динамики вроде как ниодимовые , но это тоже не точно
никогда не понимал людей берущих новодельные жбл, они не играют вообще, после видео стало понятно почему.
@@Счастливый-р9ъ да ну, 100 настоящих Вт это не так много. Другое дело, что мало кто пишет реальную мощность, у большинства производителей ватты нужно делить на 10 или больше.
200 Вт настоящих))Тебе от сотки тошно в комнате станет..при условии что хотябы герц 40 снизу услышишь..Эти динамики из наушников сгорят,приняв 0,1кВт...И о да,я лично слышал их!!В сравнении с хорошим муз центром нулевых,они может получше звучат.А с нормальным винтажом присядут на бутылку и будут дёргаться на ней,как их комподинамики
How much inches
Oreo cookie is bigger that that tweeter 😂
Many modern tweeters now use neodymium-iron-boron (NdFeB) magnets because they are 10 times as strong as a ferrite magnet (the black donut type) by weight, and that enables the motor assembly of the tweeter to be very small. A lot of OEM car audio and pro sound speakers are now using them because of the much lighter overall weight, however they are more expensive so in consumer products they are reserved for applications where mass reduction is of the most value.
...But it still won't reproduce high frequency sound. 🥴
Thank you so much sir....
Welcome
1 spikar ka price kitna hai
Good vid thanks for the upload
Nice!!
Very cheap crossover OMG caps looking poor too...
The whole thing looks cheap
JBL has lots of brand recognition so they keep on cutting costs because people will buy their products anyway
They are similar to the Infinity Bete 50.
Вот именно поэтому у меня только винтаж и будет дальше..Вскройте любого немца или рисоеда года 80го и вы всплакнёте от качества сборки и комплектующих..
и что же там такого?
@@extremum_functions ну видимо ты не вскрывал..
@@ДмитрийЗ-ъ5и там все тоже, что и в этом куске говна
The cross0ver looks faily complex but it is made with poor quality commponents (ferrite core inductors and electrolytic capacitors.
Looks like a made in garage crossover. Here are my made in garage speakers that I threw together back in 1978.
imgur . com/a/VIARZn5 ( Remove Spaces ) But the crossovers did not use electrolytic capacitors in these antique babies.
A review with Dynavoice Definition df8 please
Thank you so much.🇹🇭🙏
Once upon a few moons ago they were great speakers, once upon a few moons.
JBL has now been bought by Samsung so it's only going to get worse you won't be able to buy even JBL Parts before long so if you have old speakers you better start grabbing up stuff to recone or resuround your speakers
Love the teardown life is a box of chocolates you never know what your going to get oh you a hand model also?
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