The technical description of music: "Music is the arrangement of sound to create some combination of form, harmony, melody, rhythm, or otherwise expressive content. Music is generally agreed to be a cultural universal that is present in all human societies."
10:30 thats Adam Calhouns verse NOT Tom MacDonald, so basicly, you didn't actually listen to the lyrics. You took them offline, parts of these lyrics aren't correct by the way. "Your neighborhood's all GATED"
Ps. Have you heard of Ren Gill? You should check out his homage to Nas it’s called Halftime Retake. He’s really good w/ a golden heart, and puts forth love of music. ❤ rumor has it Andrew Lloyd Webber said he was a great storyteller of our time you can also check out his Money Game trilogy.
You're not missing anything his music is for white people without self esteem who love conspiracy theories and just want to hear someone tell them what they already think. If click bait was a person it would be him no substance all ego.
He was just giving his perspective and it doesn't seem to me that he was trying to speak for anyone else. Race has nothing to do with what he said. You blamed him for generalizing, but you're doing the same thing.
There’s lots of different types oh hip-and rap and actually the music is about the down fall of the industry life, which is why all successful artist don’t actually live the life they only narrate. Drug and alcohol abuse is prevalent in all industries of high success. But to blame it on the music, takes us back as a society.
You seem to be coming to this conclusion based on these very small clips that talib shows of ole tom, If you are actually interested in the reason talib has a problem with this character than you should look into it him a little. It doesnt take long to see this guy is the very definition of culture vulture and right-wing grifter. Like the majority of people who have little too no talent in the field or industry they are pursuing, these folks throw in typical right-winger vocabulary and next thing you know they get a bit of a following. ole tommy is using rap to grift to right-wingers cause no true fan of rap is gonna buy toms music cause tom blows as an artist. Tom sees that right-wing folks tend to throw their money at anything that appears to align with their own pre conceived beliefs about society so tom with his no talent skills on the mic throws in the right-wing buzz words and Trumpian concepts and boom ole tom actually finds a bit of a fan base just by aligning himself with the worst type of folks & ideology America has to offer. just like the rest of the grifters tom likes to get interviews and make claims that he is getting hated on because he is " going against the grain", " saying things that no one else has said before" or " too scared to say " LMAO 🤡🤡🤡
✊🏾 as long as real artists such as you, Talib, Kris, Yasiin and other conscious true Hip-Hop artist exist I'll be there. Wouldn't be the man I am today without the words of PE, BDP and Rakim giving me light and showing me the righteous path.
"The imaginary racism of the interloper in the community"... this is an important video for several reasons. Great to see Talib put time into this subject and put Tom McDonald in his place.
Oh and I tried editing. But I couldn’t. I’m Métis. Partly indigenous. His brother in law and mother in law are indigenous. I doubt he’d want anything to do with him if he was racist.
Well rap is indeed music, but we gotta agree mainstream rap has lost its track long ago. It's setting youngsters for vice and violence. We need good artists putting out wise uplifting words, not that gangsta crap.
How many rock musicians have died from overdoses? How many non musicians have died from overdoses? You can die from an overdose and it has nothing to do with music
I never understood this narrative that white people, or people who didn't grow up in the hood can't speak on the black community. Odd mindset to have. If you're American, you can speak on whatever you want. We all share this country together, and a lot of hood behavior affects people outside the hood/black community. So Talib needs to work on that mindset and way of thinking.
You can't speak on anything you have not lived or experienced. You can have an opinion, which is all it would be, but not knowing or living the life a Black person in America you have no damn clue.
It’s not that complicated as a white person you are an oppressor whether you want to be or not. There is no neutrality. You either are anti racist actively or you are at least a passive racist. Like duh.
Killer Mike hell yeah Sorry I'm late here...I just googled "why tom macdonald is horrible", and this was the first video that showed up 😊 Agree with you 💯 absolutely Tom is hip-hop's grifter and that's all he is I'm curious about what your community thinks of NF...?
Great response, Brother! Thanks for always speaking out and setting these clowns straight! This was a beautiful essay! Thanks for all you do, Brother! You are appreciated and I support all you do! Much Love to you and all of yours, Always! ✊🏽💖🤘🏽
They don't need to or want to. If anything it's more about everyone stops using it. Why keep a negative word that has such a horrendous history attached to it as part of almost all rap lyrics?
Mike question is why do black people say the N at all. Because it's 10 times worse when they say it.Then it is when white people say it. Because they're disrespecting their ancestors and saying they don't care what their ancestors went through. The N is a slave term made up by white slave owners four hundred years ago in the days of slavery to in timminate and put black people down.
I can’t stand listening to this man’s nonsense. “Drake doesn’t make gangster music, well yea I guess he does” 😂 he has so many excuses it’s not even funny.
Well, well, well... And doesn't that little factoid shed a certain (shady, racist, hypocritical, disingenuous..) new light on this man's real motives? Much like him saying that Tom has no right to speak for the oppressed black community as he's not part of it. Nor should this guy if that's the case. Considering he's made a fine living rapping about the struggles of the black community. Not hardly held back by the color if HIS skin. Now was he?
not even close, tom only ever thinks about white vs black and gay vs straight, his brain is filled with miserable, stereotypical and divisive thoughts. In his song white boy he talks about "I'm not racist, I'm not the one who made you a slave" then proceeds to talk about how he doesn't judge black based off of pure black stereotypes like drinking hennesy. All he does is talk about snowflakes, the woke left, black people and gay people. Which ultimately makes him the biggest snowflake of them all. He's barely making any real genuine music. Not to mention his lyrical and musical abilities are some of the worst of any mainstream or popular underground artists.
Rap isn't music it's more like storytelling with a beat but what tom does brings out the truth behind the industry and propaganda that the left has controlled for very long time Hollywood and media Tom brings rap to different level being more positive and with unique style if there was anyone that can say rap is music tom has done it
Progress is deemed different for different things by different people in different ways. So these things will always come to head in calamity. Mostly if one tries to be a people. Pleaser which is what most of progressive party allergy would be
You mean like pop music has damaged society as a whole? Or how american country music pushes racism and redneck behaviour? You mean the same way "devil rock n roll" damaged the youth? The only thing cure here is your strawman attempt at dismissing what he said.
You said this song wasn’t rap. But your offend and want an apology. In “facts” he never brought up his drug addiction or targeted a certain type of music. He said, that song wasn’t promoting those things, and you made the decision to make a song you said is not rap about you. Then you bring up his past and relate this song to it. From all the points in the song, racism is what you got out of it. He prolly didn’t do the debate because if you had listen to the song and not made it about you, he doesn’t wanna talk to people who don’t get it, you don’t. 🙄
You know I do get what your saying you have a point but I dont agree that Tom is racist, & I dont agree that Tom is trying to control hiphop he just wants all these weird ass woke people gone that are controling America & making it a shit hole, I bet a lot of people agree that they dont want woke people in this country, & Tom said himself his not hiphop. I believe Talib took the song the wrong way because he believes Tom meant all hiphop when he said turn your daughters turn into hoes & all that & I believe he was speaking against the rappers who sell their soul to woke labels to rap what the label wants, thats what Tom is speaking againt. & I think its hipicritical to say Tom wants to control hiphop when labels litterally do.
It's very obvious to me his career didn't go off like he thought it would be and so now he's flipping the script and relying on the community he know he can rely on which is kids of MAGA Parents
Yeah I hadn't heard of MacDonald before but at first glance he seems very shrewdly exploitative, and tonally seems to be firmly in the trolling zone, rather than sincere.
There's a lot of people that say if you wear glasses. That's disingenuous behavior and so since you have glasses on in this video , some people would say that that is disingenuous
Not everyone is as strong as you. Some people have addictive personalities. You really can't condemn Tom Mc for his theory about why he became dependent on drugs and alcohol. Only when you walk in his shoes can you condemn another. Just saying.
He didn’t blame it he said he was basically following his music and why he didn’t want to wrap about certain things, I mean what’s wrong with that? He doesn’t have to be black, just like yall said Emenim is only the GOAT because he’s white. I don’t want to hear about drugs and sex
mf'er complaining about how they've lost their soul to "the rap" the same way that touching fentanyl only seems to affect cops. 😂 Thank you for this vid and for letting us know how washed tom is.
2014-15 only 2 real solo projects tom has out i dont understand why everyone talking about him he’s Canadian and raps about America why do we care again?
White people aren’t allowed to speak because they are historically and currently oppressors. Black Americans have never oppressed anyone and their struggle is analogous to other struggles against oppression worldwide duh.
I will be 65 in a few months. I got into P-Funk in the 1970s and the West Coast and the East Coast Rap in the 1990s. I did not get into crime just because I listened to a NWA album just like I did not get into crime because I listened to a Death Metal record. As for Rap real Rap is Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, X- Clan, Boogie Down Production and Ice Cube. Tom MacDonald is a professional A Hole and a Poser. Piercings and tattoos don't make a Rapper skills do.
I spent most of my life loving Hip Hop. The Low End Theory initially connected with me despite being a lower income, middle class "parents didn't make it yet" kid who grew up near the Everglades. Being a precisionist who started in Jazz and Swing, I always loved the 90s Hip Hops' samples and messages. I was known as the white boy, hip hop drummer as I got older when everyone was playing blast beats and punk. Very counter coulter to the norm. I think that is why I fell into the conscious side of rap throughout my teens and twenties. My family valued free expression and thought. Be creative, don't hold yourself down. I really believe times have changed so much. The problems are so much different than 25-30 years ago. The majority of kids aren't listening to music with any sort of personal introspection. I thought this was the point of the industry you and Blackstar helped create. Tom and Ben aren't taking a short at your philosophy of hip hop. They are taking a shot of the autotune, mindless trap, rachet, drill, etc... (throw in a lot of pop music) state of the music industry. Yes, the Ben Shapiro verse was total satire, but it done to be controversial, buck all conceived notions, and be an independent thinker. Rage Against the Machines song "Know your Enemy" always comes to mind nowadays. They suffered and were blinded by their own success as I feel you are now.
Let’s look… you fell into conscious hip-hop from jazz drumming and parents who said be a free thinker. Seems like you practicing free comprehension well. How could you both sides an actual insult to the very art you say you love? Seems like your specific cannon of hip-hip is limited, the greats range from street life to learn who you are, from Kool G Rap to KRS-ONE. All paved a path for Native Tongues. NWA isn’t my enemy, the song FTP is a battle cry for urban youth who are targeted by them. Trap, drill etc… those are expressions of youth in circumstances, is overly marketed? Probably so. If none of their music existed the problems they speak about still would. What should that tell you, blaming an expression for choices you make is a poor excuse for a human. If your free thought hasn’t deduced that it’s system of oppression designed to suppress then your mind is still caged. Ben Shitpiro is a noted conservative speaker who has gone out of his way to side with r@cists and is not friend to blk ppl, so ya, we know who are our enemies very well. You Amy actually be one of them.
Good points, I feel brevity in youtube comments lose context. My Hip Hop journey would be way too long winded and boring for a comment section. I was just using a brief moment as a point of reference. R@cism is also thrown around so easily now that it has lost all power. I don't think that people got upset about Five Percenter ideas in hip hop which is super religiously intolerant and in many ways r@cist. I just believe Hip Hop was created to challenge yourself, look for the underlying meaning, and at times be uncomfortable with the message. But at the end of the day it is just music, good, bad, popular, revolting etc. I have know horrible musicians who have made great songs and amazing musicians that have made trash. @@carbonado1
1)"when you watch debates, these people have notes" If ppl are criticizing for having notes, they have nothing real to criticize you for 2) "I'm just going with the scientists" a) The scientists don't agree with each other, you can find one that agrees with mainstream. Here's an example of one that doesn't echo what mainstream wants the message to be : Colin Wright (@SwipeWright) b) Also dont need to be a vet to know the difference between cat & a dog. c) The Trans Activists do not all draw the distinction between sex & gender, they have also said that sex is fluid.
You know, and I know, don't you lie to yourself. And don't you lie to your listeners Come on, just listen to any old Snoop Dogg. Doctor dre eminem fifty cent 36 mafia or half a million others trying to sell you a dollar cd in new york street
Social media keeps trying to silence Talib Kweli when the world needs him. We don't need racist garbage Tom MacQAnon and Ben Swifeisdry as the voices of anything. We need Talib.
I highly recommend checking out Talib's music. He is a talented musician and has been a staple on my playlist for years. With that being said. During the debate, it was embarrassing to be a fan of this man. Let's be clear, conscious rap doesn't equate to intelligence. He ought to concentrate on his music and make a deliberate effort to acquaint himself with the distinguishing traits and requirements of diverse demographics. We're all stronger together. He needs to learn that.
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You Tom and Adam fans realize that Talib is way more respected and loved in the industry and came way before your idols, right?
Yes I understand, after all you got 8,400 views in 4 months on this so yeah you are the pulse of everything
@@Deathtoperverts Views =/= talent.
The technical description of music:
"Music is the arrangement of sound to create some combination of form, harmony, melody, rhythm, or otherwise expressive content. Music is generally agreed to be a cultural universal that is present in all human societies."
Bro you just read Adam’s words first so you don’t do your homework work
solid Bancho vibes from Dave the diver my man
He didn’t blame hiphop he said he was copying the lifestyle of the top stars he was seeing on main stream
Talib I am confused. SIR. DIDNT YOU JUST FINISH COLLABING WITH GRISELDA????? Dont you see that as a double standard???
Dude is a hippocrite. He can't explain himself or his actions.
And if your not cHecking your sources well.........
10:30 thats Adam Calhouns verse NOT Tom MacDonald, so basicly, you didn't actually listen to the lyrics. You took them offline, parts of these lyrics aren't correct by the way. "Your neighborhood's all GATED"
Agree 💯
Thank you
No one wants to listen to that garbage song. Both Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro are racist.
They all look alike anyway
Tom and Adam are both trash.. so now what?
Shapiro proved that it doesn’t necessarily take “rap skills” to become a billboard #1 artist, as he now is.
I heard of Thomas.
Why dont you say something on Twitter?...or Instagram?....oh yes that's right 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
l@@MisanthropikOnelol
Grew up on your music, keep the struggle alive. Cheers from Sweden and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
Eritrean scandinavians ❤ love serbia u dusties of Bosnia is colorist in Nordic nations
Ps. Have you heard of Ren Gill? You should check out his homage to Nas it’s called Halftime Retake. He’s really good w/ a golden heart, and puts forth love of music. ❤ rumor has it Andrew Lloyd Webber said he was a great storyteller of our time you can also check out his Money Game trilogy.
Esham, mastamind, k rino, and wax is my list of hip hop mastery.
Edit: I realized I have a spot for one more artist.
Dude didn’t do your facts and get them right 😂😂
I am a white woman living in Texas, and I have no idea to whom you refer. I hope that gives you hope.
You're not missing anything his music is for white people without self esteem who love conspiracy theories and just want to hear someone tell them what they already think. If click bait was a person it would be him no substance all ego.
Me too, and me neither! 😉
Good for u! Do you want a cookie
White savior complex
@@AlexandraOrzechowski or ally. 😉
Trust the experts !
~XP
He was just giving his perspective and it doesn't seem to me that he was trying to speak for anyone else. Race has nothing to do with what he said. You blamed him for generalizing, but you're doing the same thing.
There’s lots of different types oh hip-and rap and actually the music is about the down fall of the industry life, which is why all successful artist don’t actually live the life they only narrate. Drug and alcohol abuse is prevalent in all industries of high success. But to blame it on the music, takes us back as a society.
You seem to be coming to this conclusion based on these very small clips that talib shows of ole tom, If you are actually interested in the reason talib has a problem with this character than you should look into it him a little.
It doesnt take long to see this guy is the very definition of culture vulture and right-wing grifter.
Like the majority of people who have little too no talent in the field or industry they are pursuing, these folks throw in typical right-winger vocabulary and next thing you know they get a bit of a following.
ole tommy is using rap to grift to right-wingers cause no true fan of rap is gonna buy toms music cause tom blows as an artist.
Tom sees that right-wing folks tend to throw their money at anything that appears to align with their own pre conceived beliefs about society so tom with his no talent skills on the mic throws in the right-wing buzz words and Trumpian concepts and boom ole tom actually finds a bit of a fan base just by aligning himself with the worst type of folks & ideology America has to offer.
just like the rest of the grifters tom likes to get interviews and make claims that he is getting hated on because he is " going against the grain", " saying things that no one else has said before" or " too scared to say " LMAO
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this is why I say Tom is so dam stupid. Ben did it to prove his point. hip hop does not take talent. Tom done it because he knew it would get views
sara jay huh?
✊🏾 as long as real artists such as you, Talib, Kris, Yasiin and other conscious true Hip-Hop artist exist I'll be there. Wouldn't be the man I am today without the words of PE, BDP and Rakim giving me light and showing me the righteous path.
The Revolutionary Communist fist hey, now educate yourself what people who invented Communism thought about black people
@@MrJiks1 LOL. wut?
"The imaginary racism of the interloper in the community"... this is an important video for several reasons. Great to see Talib put time into this subject and put Tom McDonald in his place.
8,000 people have watched this in 4 months so yeah
Oh and I tried editing. But I couldn’t. I’m Métis. Partly indigenous. His brother in law and mother in law are indigenous. I doubt he’d want anything to do with him if he was racist.
If rap isn’t music is it considered poetry is poetry, considered music or a musical content
They will never debate somebody like Is Talib Kweli. Because
You're actually informed on the issue.
Lol. No, he isn't. He quoted Adam Calhoun in this video, not Tom.
Well rap is indeed music, but we gotta agree mainstream rap has lost its track long ago. It's setting youngsters for vice and violence. We need good artists putting out wise uplifting words, not that gangsta crap.
Right-wing left-wing, both Angels and Demons have both wings. Cause you don't do much flying if you got one wing😊😅🎉😂❤😂🎉😢😅😊😊🎉😂❤😂😢😮😊😊
How many Rappers/hip hop artist have died from overdose? How many other genre's die of overdose. Seems like its a Music Culture thing.
How many rock musicians have died from overdoses? How many non musicians have died from overdoses? You can die from an overdose and it has nothing to do with music
Plenty rockers have overdosed. Plenty.
@@hackskrap exactly a music industry culture
@@hackskrapTrue, but a lot of rappers lately been OD'ing. That wasn't a thing in 90's hip hop.
@@samspade8830 it’s a symptom of the counter culture…whatever genre reps that, their genre seems to suffer.
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Bryson Gray, Anthony Brian Logan & Officer Brandon Tatum are my favorite black conservatives!
That sounds like a nightmare of misinformation
@Whodisdeya Nah, they're great. You just love being in an echo chamber.
All trashbags
Bryson is the most embarrassing artist out there 😂
Tired of perpetual victimhood.
This is the best victim I’ve seen
@@missmissy456imagine Jadakiss destroying 50 cent in a rap battle and then 50 cent goes on Piers Morgan and cries about how he was offended by it😂😂
That's what makes it good.😅😅😅
I never understood this narrative that white people, or people who didn't grow up in the hood can't speak on the black community. Odd mindset to have. If you're American, you can speak on whatever you want. We all share this country together, and a lot of hood behavior affects people outside the hood/black community. So Talib needs to work on that mindset and way of thinking.
You can't speak on anything you have not lived or experienced. You can have an opinion, which is all it would be, but not knowing or living the life a Black person in America you have no damn clue.
It’s not that complicated as a white person you are an oppressor whether you want to be or not. There is no neutrality. You either are anti racist actively or you are at least a passive racist. Like duh.
Oh and get your research game on point before trying to victim clout chase . Calhouns line.
Where there are many words sin is not void 😊😅🎉😂❤🎉😊😊
Killer Mike hell yeah
Sorry I'm late here...I just googled "why tom macdonald is horrible", and this was the first video that showed up 😊
Agree with you 💯 absolutely
Tom is hip-hop's grifter and that's all he is
I'm curious about what your community thinks of NF...?
Great response, Brother! Thanks for always speaking out and setting these clowns straight! This was a beautiful essay! Thanks for all you do, Brother! You are appreciated and I support all you do! Much Love to you and all of yours, Always! ✊🏽💖🤘🏽
Do you know that this man does not consider you a brother
@@iFunkismhow do you know?
@@iFunkism 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Tom Mcdonald fans are just as corny as Em fans, they don’t reflect or define Hip Hop Music & Culture, so i dont even acknowledge there existence 💯👊
@stevenjamesgiurbinojr6893 I'm sure they not looking for your consent so.......
I am glad that Ben shapiroor is turned from his previous opinion😅😅😢🎉😂❤😂😢😮😅😅🎉😂❤😂😢😮😊
That tweet was the first thing I thought of when I saw the song dropped 😂
All I have to say about them wondering why white rappers can't say that. It just raises the question. "Why do they need or wan't to?"
Can't say what
N word@@theburnout8715
They don't need to or want to. If anything it's more about everyone stops using it. Why keep a negative word that has such a horrendous history attached to it as part of almost all rap lyrics?
Mike question is why do black people say the N at all. Because it's 10 times worse when they say it.Then it is when white people say it. Because they're disrespecting their ancestors and saying they don't care what their ancestors went through. The N is a slave term made up by white slave owners four hundred years ago in the days of slavery to in timminate and put black people down.
I can’t stand listening to this man’s nonsense. “Drake doesn’t make gangster music, well yea I guess he does” 😂 he has so many excuses it’s not even funny.
You did a show with Tom MacDonald in the past. You both opened for Wu Tang.
Well, well, well... And doesn't that little factoid shed a certain (shady, racist, hypocritical, disingenuous..) new light on this man's real motives? Much like him saying that Tom has no right to speak for the oppressed black community as he's not part of it. Nor should this guy if that's the case. Considering he's made a fine living rapping about the struggles of the black community. Not hardly held back by the color if HIS skin. Now was he?
Tom lived in South Central, you really didn't do your research, lol, you are sounding more racist than Tom has in anything he's released.
LOL
not even close, tom only ever thinks about white vs black and gay vs straight, his brain is filled with miserable, stereotypical and divisive thoughts. In his song white boy he talks about "I'm not racist, I'm not the one who made you a slave" then proceeds to talk about how he doesn't judge black based off of pure black stereotypes like drinking hennesy. All he does is talk about snowflakes, the woke left, black people and gay people. Which ultimately makes him the biggest snowflake of them all. He's barely making any real genuine music. Not to mention his lyrical and musical abilities are some of the worst of any mainstream or popular underground artists.
Born in B.C Canada you clowns
Right, many believe "being racist" can only be from white people, WRONG... This guy seems racist and clearly didn't do research on Tom...
Exactly
Only an apology in writing in your best cursive calligraphy will suffice ❤ Ok cobber ?🇭🇲
Anyone remember tipper gore and the pmrc? This is the same discussion repeated by conservatives.
The problem isn't mainstream its the underground hiphop .Thats the problem! The 90's underground denounced bullshit!
Don't forget all the murders and deaths and killings that were attributed to rock and roll. It's just the big merry go round of music
OK, you wanna talk about wings? Well then I guess I'll just be a seraphim with seven
Wow you always can impress talib
What happened to your Instagram?
Ethereal his ass 😂😂
Rap isn't music it's more like storytelling with a beat but what tom does brings out the truth behind the industry and propaganda that the left has controlled for very long time Hollywood and media Tom brings rap to different level being more positive and with unique style if there was anyone that can say rap is music tom has done it
Rap is music. It's rhythm and poetry.
Ben was talking about your shifty rap.
Progress is deemed different for different things by different people in different ways. So these things will always come to head in calamity. Mostly if one tries to be a people. Pleaser which is what most of progressive party allergy would be
ok lawonda
Who cares what that random thinks? If you like rap music listen to it. Imma still listen to it whether they think it's music or not 😂
That guy is just an internet troll…Don’t take him too seriously.
Best of Luck Dr Cornell West....you most definitely will be needing it !
The vs you quoted from "Race War" is Adam Calhoun's not Tom's 😂 you clearly didn't watch the video. 😂
I love you man. Blackstar was my childhood.
Talib Kweli, one of the best to ever do it.
This dude is unhinged . Feel bad for you.
CLOUT CHASER #hangovergang
Check his new stuff Talib stays jamming.
Kweli really trying to pretend that rap music hasnt done damage to african americans. So cute😂
This the same clown that claims trump as racist while glazing biden like he doesnt have videos of him being racist
You mean like pop music has damaged society as a whole? Or how american country music pushes racism and redneck behaviour? You mean the same way "devil rock n roll" damaged the youth?
The only thing cure here is your strawman attempt at dismissing what he said.
Just Silly
You said this song wasn’t rap. But your offend and want an apology. In “facts” he never brought up his drug addiction or targeted a certain type of music. He said, that song wasn’t promoting those things, and you made the decision to make a song you said is not rap about you. Then you bring up his past and relate this song to it. From all the points in the song, racism is what you got out of it. He prolly didn’t do the debate because if you had listen to the song and not made it about you, he doesn’t wanna talk to people who don’t get it, you don’t. 🙄
I knew Ben shitpiro, I didn’t know who dude was much less as a “rapper”😅😂😂
Yet his song shot to number one on Billboard and Spotify. 😂
@@samspade8830 Poo floats in water too…
@@carbonado1 That's 99% of the rap industry today. Pooh infested water.
You know I do get what your saying you have a point but I dont agree that Tom is racist, & I dont agree that Tom is trying to control hiphop he just wants all these weird ass woke people gone that are controling America & making it a shit hole, I bet a lot of people agree that they dont want woke people in this country, & Tom said himself his not hiphop. I believe Talib took the song the wrong way because he believes Tom meant all hiphop when he said turn your daughters turn into hoes & all that & I believe he was speaking against the rappers who sell their soul to woke labels to rap what the label wants, thats what Tom is speaking againt. & I think its hipicritical to say Tom wants to control hiphop when labels litterally do.
It's very obvious to me his career didn't go off like he thought it would be and so now he's flipping the script and relying on the community he know he can rely on which is kids of MAGA Parents
Yeah I hadn't heard of MacDonald before but at first glance he seems very shrewdly exploitative, and tonally seems to be firmly in the trolling zone, rather than sincere.
It's very obvious you don't know the first thing about him, but you'll throw out a ton of accusations.
Tom Macdonald is a genius
Every single industry plant that was black was okay but ben shapiro is not????
LOL
Trans girl gave Tom Mcdonald head back when he was higher than a M.F.
There's a lot of people that say if you wear glasses. That's disingenuous behavior and so since you have glasses on in this video , some people would say that that is disingenuous
No one has ever said that in the history of human language.
If you really have an issue with Tom then diss him in a song
I like that. I'm not really choosing sides here. that's what these music artist do when they have a problem, they put it in their art.
What happened to your IG page? Way to fumble to bag.
Tom is a honest person who is open to the WOKE AMERICA
Define woke
Thanks for officially addressing Tom Macdonald dude has been a culture vulture for years and is infecting the RUclips space.
Cry more 😂
Still amazed he has fans
I'm not amazed at all....just like Trump. A bunch of ill-informed, misguided sheep.
That line in race war was from Adam Calhoun…so do your research then speak 🤦♂️.
Not everyone is as strong as you. Some people have addictive personalities. You really can't condemn Tom Mc for his theory about why he became dependent on drugs and alcohol. Only when you walk in his shoes can you condemn another. Just saying.
He didn’t blame it he said he was basically following his music and why he didn’t want to wrap about certain things, I mean what’s wrong with that? He doesn’t have to be black, just like yall said Emenim is only the GOAT because he’s white. I don’t want to hear about drugs and sex
mf'er complaining about how they've lost their soul to "the rap" the same way that touching fentanyl only seems to affect cops. 😂
Thank you for this vid and for letting us know how washed tom is.
I missed this interview.
You’re absolutely correct.
2014-15 only 2 real solo projects tom has out i dont understand why everyone talking about him he’s Canadian and raps about America why do we care again?
Talib your not Japanese nor Indian! So why did you bring it up?
White people aren’t allowed to speak because they are historically and currently oppressors. Black Americans have never oppressed anyone and their struggle is analogous to other struggles against oppression worldwide duh.
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I will be 65 in a few months. I got into P-Funk in the 1970s and the West Coast and the East Coast Rap in the 1990s. I did not get into crime just because I listened to a NWA album just like I did not get into crime because I listened to a Death Metal record. As for Rap real Rap is Public Enemy, A Tribe Called Quest, X- Clan, Boogie Down Production and Ice Cube. Tom MacDonald is a professional A Hole and a Poser. Piercings and tattoos don't make a Rapper skills do.
I spent most of my life loving Hip Hop. The Low End Theory initially connected with me despite being a lower income, middle class "parents didn't make it yet" kid who grew up near the Everglades. Being a precisionist who started in Jazz and Swing, I always loved the 90s Hip Hops' samples and messages. I was known as the white boy, hip hop drummer as I got older when everyone was playing blast beats and punk. Very counter coulter to the norm. I think that is why I fell into the conscious side of rap throughout my teens and twenties. My family valued free expression and thought. Be creative, don't hold yourself down. I really believe times have changed so much. The problems are so much different than 25-30 years ago. The majority of kids aren't listening to music with any sort of personal introspection. I thought this was the point of the industry you and Blackstar helped create. Tom and Ben aren't taking a short at your philosophy of hip hop. They are taking a shot of the autotune, mindless trap, rachet, drill, etc... (throw in a lot of pop music) state of the music industry. Yes, the Ben Shapiro verse was total satire, but it done to be controversial, buck all conceived notions, and be an independent thinker. Rage Against the Machines song "Know your Enemy" always comes to mind nowadays. They suffered and were blinded by their own success as I feel you are now.
Let’s look… you fell into conscious hip-hop from jazz drumming and parents who said be a free thinker. Seems like you practicing free comprehension well. How could you both sides an actual insult to the very art you say you love? Seems like your specific cannon of hip-hip is limited, the greats range from street life to learn who you are, from Kool G Rap to KRS-ONE. All paved a path for Native Tongues. NWA isn’t my enemy, the song FTP is a battle cry for urban youth who are targeted by them. Trap, drill etc… those are expressions of youth in circumstances, is overly marketed? Probably so. If none of their music existed the problems they speak about still would. What should that tell you, blaming an expression for choices you make is a poor excuse for a human. If your free thought hasn’t deduced that it’s system of oppression designed to suppress then your mind is still caged. Ben Shitpiro is a noted conservative speaker who has gone out of his way to side with r@cists and is not friend to blk ppl, so ya, we know who are our enemies very well. You Amy actually be one of them.
Good points, I feel brevity in youtube comments lose context. My Hip Hop journey would be way too long winded and boring for a comment section. I was just using a brief moment as a point of reference. R@cism is also thrown around so easily now that it has lost all power. I don't think that people got upset about Five Percenter ideas in hip hop which is super religiously intolerant and in many ways r@cist. I just believe Hip Hop was created to challenge yourself, look for the underlying meaning, and at times be uncomfortable with the message. But at the end of the day it is just music, good, bad, popular, revolting etc. I have know horrible musicians who have made great songs and amazing musicians that have made trash. @@carbonado1
1)"when you watch debates, these people have notes"
If ppl are criticizing for having notes, they have nothing real to criticize you for
2) "I'm just going with the scientists"
a) The scientists don't agree with each other, you can find one that agrees with mainstream. Here's an example of one that doesn't echo what mainstream wants the message to be : Colin Wright (@SwipeWright)
b) Also dont need to be a vet to know the difference between cat & a dog.
c) The Trans Activists do not all draw the distinction between sex & gender, they have also said that sex is fluid.
You know, and I know, don't you lie to yourself. And don't you lie to your listeners Come on, just listen to any old Snoop Dogg. Doctor dre eminem fifty cent 36 mafia or half a million others trying to sell you a dollar cd in new york street
Dude, you intersected yourself into irrelevance.
Social media keeps trying to silence Talib Kweli when the world needs him.
We don't need racist garbage Tom MacQAnon and Ben Swifeisdry as the voices of anything.
We need Talib.
Uh oh talib read mein kampf to gain historical context? He might be racist.
I highly recommend checking out Talib's music. He is a talented musician and has been a staple on my playlist for years.
With that being said.
During the debate, it was embarrassing to be a fan of this man. Let's be clear, conscious rap doesn't equate to intelligence.
He ought to concentrate on his music and make a deliberate effort to acquaint himself with the distinguishing traits and requirements of diverse demographics.
We're all stronger together. He needs to learn that.
Talib is the most racist rapper in the game. This is why hes not on IG or twitter. Hes projecting.
Joe Biden: if you can’t decide whether to vote for me and not trump then you ain’t black!
Who is massa? The person you can’t go against right?
bro you are reaching so heavy on so many levels.
Your not on Tom's intellectual level
Tom Is the worst rapper I’ve ever heard. Every track is the same..
Talib Kweli 👑❤️
"I think libertarians are just right-wingers who wanna have abortions and smoke weed, but that's just my opinion." Hahahahaha