I get tears in my eyes every time I hear "There is a Redeemer." I don't know what it is, whether it's the melody, the words or both, but that man had a gift, there is no denying it.
“Make my life a prayer to You. I wanna do what you want me to. No empty words and no white lies, no token prayers, no compromise…” Gone, but never forgotten, Keith Green.
Beautiful! Yes, I grew up with Keith Green’s music as well. Time stops when all these lives ended. TY for reminding me of these words. God bless you. 🤍🙏🏼🤍✨
Thanks for sharing. Now comes a prayer of complete surrender using caps as emphasis to help others find THE WAY AT GOD'S MERCY, HIS LOVE GIFT IN JESUS CHRIST. On a balcony of space STEPPED A PURE AND HOLY GOD. IN AWESOME SOLITUDE YOU STOOD ALONE. Not one faint star to give YOU light; just endless darkness, it was blackest night. But somehow in the darkness YOU COULD SEE. YOU SAW mountains high and lofty, YOU SAW valleys lush and green. YOU SAW babbling brooks, and wildflowers grow, YOU EVEN HEARD a robin sing. Then through YOUR COMPASSION STANDING OUT THERE IN YOUR TOMORROW, YOU SAW forum's visitors, their families and friends. 🥰 YOU SAW them as sinners (missing the mark resulting in their weaknesses prevailing causing guilt of wrong doing) because there is no intrinsic righteousness in any of us due to Adam’s sin. YOU SAW them as they grew from a baby into adulthood due to YOUR HANDS OF MERCY. 🥰 YOU SAW them pursuing a career path for the purpose of obtaining the gains of the world not realizing that it is a loss compared to what YOU DID on the cross. YOU SAW them working long and laboring hard to receive the grace by justification even though YOU stated, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."(John 6:29 KJV) YOU SAW the unwillingness to accept YOUR PLAN OF SALVATION THROUGH YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST. YOU SAW them living with the guilt of committing crimes to the heart. YOU SAW them enduring personal crisis. YOU SAW the weight of the burden on their hearts with each tribulation. YOU SAW them seeking comfort from the above mentioned topography, ONE OF THE MANY MARVELS YOUR PERFECT HANDS HAVE MADE. 👏👏👏 YOU SAW their worries about tomorrow. If their hearts were a window that they could look through, oh the pains and scars they would see. What a cruel fate the skin gives as a mask to the inward pain. But the skin couldn’t cover THE SUFFERING YOUR ONE AND ONLY SON BORED on the cross as PAYMENT for all our sins because HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS ALONE HAD THE MERIT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR HOLINESS. Indeed, ONLY HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS SUFFICIENT TO SAVE us from this present evil world as evidenced by Mary's song of praise. "And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour." (Luke 1:46-47 KJV) Awesome thanks to YOUR GREAT PARDON for being easy on the heart. 🥰 They have seen a lot of crazy things done in YOUR NAME. For example, the father of lies futile attempts to make crooked the right ways of the LORD to turn people away from faith in the WORKS OF JESUS CHRIST ALONE. How can anyone bear the thought of his or her life story detracting from the GLORY AND HONOR KNOWN TO BELONG TO CHRIST ALONE? As a consequence, YOU ARE A MYSTERY OF GREAT MYSTERY to them. Despite this conviction, YOU ARE MINDFUL of them as evidenced by the fact that YOUR JUDGEMENT is not speedy, allowing them to pursue the desires of the flesh. They are aware of hypocrisy in religious assemblies that like to be seen and heard. In addition, secular education teaches that there is no right and wrong, if GOD exists there is no way of relating to HIM, and moral standards shift according to the whims of fashion. Therefore, their minds are conditioned to question everything this world has to offer including “THY POWER THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE DISPLAYED.” They have accepted the heavy burden of dealing with the troubles of this life and seek to know another way, YOU THE GREAT COMFORTER TO ALL who did receive YOU as their personal SAVIOR. Still, YOU have shown them NEW MERCY every day with each thought they make and each breath they take. Unfortunately, like the prodigal son, we are all guilty of wandering far from YOU LORD because the negative experiences of our lives tend to build roadblocks to the TRUTH. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST HELP them to identify the way, truth, and eternal life (that is YOU). Since to know and follow your SPIRIT is more exciting than any 007 movies, and YOU DELIGHT MAKING the ordinary into extraordinary. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST MAKE them understand that there is no way around YOUR TRUTH, and that there is something about YOUR NAME. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST HELP them defeat in their minds what is false in YOUR EYES. LORD GUIDE their thoughts to know that the path of sin is hard on their hearts for the purpose of crying out to YOU to know the joy, peace of having the heavy burden LIFTED by THE GOD OF PEACE I AM, and ANCHOR their souls in THE HAVEN OF REST. In other words, LORD use the storms in their lives to get a hold of them to trust YOU and believe. In truth, YOU ARE THE JOY that seekest them through pain. LORD HELP their fainting hearts to believe that YOU, who was slain on the cross over 2000 years ago has the POWER TO CHANGE lives today through the INSTANTANEOUS GREAT FAVOR from GOD to the house of Israel made known in believers by YOU to make YOUR NAME EVERLASTING. 🥰 For as the statue liberates the citizens so the cross liberates the soul. ONLY YOU can calm the trouble waters of the mind when one admits to wanting salvation from one’s sinful nature, JESUS IS LORD, and believes in the heart that GOD RAISED HIM from the dead TO LIFT the heavy burden of sin's guilt away from the heart in accordance to YOUR WORD found in Psalm 51:1-10 KJV. 👏👏👏👏👏👏 O, the wonder of it all to experience within the flesh the feeling of a tree being cut back/pruned in order for it to grow stronger and more beautiful after meditating on the words of said Psalm. 🥰🙌 LORD MAKE them know that ONLY YOUR HOLY SPIRIT, through the experience of a new birth within believers, can prevent the family circle from being broken because THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE YOU HAVE GRANTED means a chapter of their lives is decided. Creation sings the rebirth song for them yearly, through YOUR PROMISE of springtime, giving rise to the idea that by the mention of YOUR NAME flowers grow, and the desert blooms again. 🥰 LORD GUIDE their understanding of words to use to come into YOUR PRESENCE with an honest reverence of WHO YOU ARE to experience the beauty that time can't erase YOUR WISDOM resting on their faces. LORD STRENGTHEN their determination to never waiver in efforts to search for YOU because the wages of sin is too high for anyone to pay. Additionally, THE KING OF KINGS is needed in their hearts to learn how to expand their capacity to love for YOU are LOVE in any language. 🥰 Once they learn to speak it with boldness through YOUR WONDERFUL COUNSELING all the world will hear, and know that LOVE is the language of their hearts. So LORD, KEEP KNOCKING on their door until they let YOU in to know hardships and struggles will end with a GREAT CELEBRATION WITH YOU. 🥰🙌 If one believes faith cannot be forced, YOU WILL GIVE that individual over to the stubborn heart to follow own counsel which will surely fail him or her to the extent that the punishment will last forever found in Psalms 81 NIV. Given this, I pray that YOU WILL MAKE that person see that this feeling is wasted for a world in which we become strangers as we age, gives us thrills instead of peace, aims to solve a problem but creates another, and unrest surges with each passing generation. Shed some light into their broken hearts for YOU ARE THE GREAT JEHOVAH, THE GOD THAT HEALETH thee. Lastly, LORD when they call on YOU in earnest prayer to come into their hearts to be born again (repentance manifesting itself in a changed life), I pray that YOU WILL GIVE them the blessed assurance of their salvation because nothing breaks YOUR HEART, or tears YOU apart like when they cry from the trials of the devil who comes to slander, falsely accuse, steal, kill & destroy. Only by drawing nearer to YOU LORD will put them on a path to a glorious one way trip winding upward to YOU where pain is not welcome because the heart will never break anymore. For ONLY YOU UNDERSTANDS our tears since YOU LOOK at the heart, while humans look at the flesh. O LOVE that will not let them go. When they don't have the strength to try, and have cried all they can cry hear their hearts that need YOU more today than yesterday. Many thanks LORD for speaking TRUTH in our lives TO BLESS those who are not offended by THEE. LET YOUR WILL BE DONE because YOUR LOVE ALONE CONQUERS everything by WAITING for them to cease struggling, and finally surrender to YOUR EMBRACE to learn about YOUR LOVE AND PROMISE TO TAKE CARE of your children exquisitely. 🥰 Since... "at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore"... (Psalms 16:11 KJV), and the nail print for them to know YOU by answering the following question. How did CHRIST LOVE people into a relationship with HIM? 🥰
I remember the crash so well. I was a very young teen mother, married at 17, divorced by 19. Melody had written me a letter of encouragement on being strong for my baby boy...while she was in mourning for Keith. She and Keith gave of themselves so passionately. I did my best to become the mother she said i would be, I am now a grandmother. I've kept her letter in my Bible all these many years. Someday soon, I'll meet them both, in the sweet by and by. I can't wait. I'll never forget the words that Melody used in her book about the crash; that Keith and her children "stepped off into eternity" that day, but knew they'd be together again some day. Lord bless her and everything she puts her hands to.💝🙏
Also a young teen Mom & wife! He ended up very violent, so didn't last long! On & off the street with my baby boy, BUT GOD!❤ Keith's music was shelter in the storm! It didn't matter what you faced, it came on the radio & you immediately felt the presence of HOLY SPIRIT ❤ Seeing & feeling Keith's faith & passion for the LORD inspired many in their faith walks! He was definitely a gift from GOD!❤ Your story is a beautiful tale of faith & persevering through the worst of it all! Not much worse than mourning the loss of your whole family at once, & be left behind! But it sounds like she pressed into her faith & relationship with GOD, & used all the pain for HIS GLORY by then ministering to others! I find it very helpful to help other's in the midst of our trials & tribulations! That & praising HIM through it all seems to get us through the hard stuff so much smoother! Thank GOD for such as Keith & his lovely wife!❤
As a former USAF aviation mishap investigator, hats off to you for this video and emphasis on fundamentals. Keith Green had a significant impact on my early Christian life and I look fwd to thanking him for his service to the King Eternal.
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Loved and still cry when he sings I was about to have my first child when he died....God knew his days...he "burned" for JESUS we know we will see him soon...AMAZING TALENT❤❤
I was a student at Christ For The Nations Institute (CFNI) in Dallas, Texas, the day this accident happened. The student body, staff, and faculty were all shocked when the news of the Keith Green crash reached us. Keith, Melody, and Last Days Ministries were very well known to us, and greatly appreciated. We held prayer vigils for Melody and the members of Last Days Ministries. As tragic as this was, our thoughts were directed to two principles: (1) Keith had reached and won many souls for Jesus in his brief life and he and his children were now with Christ, (2) Our faith can never be nonchalant over natural laws; yes miracles do happen, but we are always responsible for living wisely. Thank you for your insightful and compassionate remarks.
Thank you. Especially the second thought about natural laws and faith. I have always felt there is a difference and may I add A RADICALLY BIG DIFFERENCE between going into a tragic situation totally unplanned and doing something that you KNOW is dangerous deliberately. It is one thing if you a re flying and there is no call for bad weather and when get there an unexpected storm comes out of nowhere. Or anything that really comes unexpectedl!! It is another thing when the plane is several hundred pounds overweight and a storm is also called to be ahead and you choose to fly into it anyway!
@@warrenroy5376 what I see here was a ministry leader with a plane he was still in the process of figuring out. He may have merely trusted a pilot that had less understanding than he suspected. The pilot, also; may not have realized the possibilities of his lack of judgement for this smaller scale situation. Sadly, we can only learn from other's mistakes at this point. Abba G-d bless those left behind with their memories and legacy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🕊️
Thanks for this. Keith's death was a very big deal to me as a Christian and senior in high school in 1982, I was mailed both "So You Wanna Go Back to Egypt" and "No Compromise" cassettes from LD Ministries offered for free. I sent a $5 bill both times which was a big deal as a young teenager at the time. Their newsletter also introduced me to Creation vs evolutionism for the first time. I was amazed at the apologetics of it all. 40 years now. Kind of crazy where we are now but Keith's ministry was very impactful to me as a young Christian...
I still have all my Last Days ministry newsletters!! I think I sent $10 for each cassette I got. Money well spent. His ministry changed my life! I saw him in concert in Modesto, California in 1978 or 79. I was never the same after that!💞
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Like wedding bands, water and baptism are “symbols” of the decision to trust Christ as Lord and Savior and an act of obedience. But sometimes people accept on deathbeds in hospitals- like the thief on the cross- “today you will be with Me in Paradise.”!!!! @@johanneshartman4618
I am in my 32nd year as a missionary, starting out with 4 years at Last Days Ministries; what a blessing this precious brother was...and continues to be in his ongoing legacy.
Sobering reminder of our human frailty and fallibility. Jesus did not walk away from Calvary; he was not merely unconscious when they took him down from that cross. He was dead. He was dead. And his body wrecked. Destroyed. Drained of blood. His heart cut through by the thrust of a lance. And yet, our Saviour had, within himself - and through the power of His Father (and also the power of the Holy Spirit, through whom He was conceived) Jesus possessed the ability to resurrect. Which is why we are here, trusting in Him, that we also may resurrect some day. We can do nothing without God. Nothing. Yet "we can do all things in Him who strengthens us." Dear Jesus please bring those 2 families to Paradise, there was no evil in them, just exuberance and, perhaps, a sense of being invincible. Failure to follow safe procedures... we pay a big price when we expect God to do the ordinary things we should have done - God doesn't usually work like that xx
That plane was a disaster waiting to happen. There’s no God’s will. (Or the infantile “he was needed there, not here.”) I guess the dead children were needed more there than here, too. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Kieth Green was an important musician to me and my young family. I will always cherish the insightful lyrics and humor of his songs. His ministry encourages me to this day. Soon we will meet again with our Lord Jesus Christ.
I was between my junior and senior year at college when this accident ocurred, and had just began taking flying lessons. Being a fan of Keith, having seen him in concert, it hurt tremendously. Fast forward to now, I'm a 20K hour airline captain. But... I've always taken this accident to heart. It is our responsibilities as pilots to cross the T's and dot the I's. Not that I'm perfect. Early in my career I got put into a similar situation with a Piper Navajo by my boss. I have no doubt we were over gross and aft of legal CG. I'll add this, if you've never flown an aircraft at aft (or beyond aft) CG, it flies terribly different. It is pitch sensitive (easy to over control) and lacks the stability in pitch the same aircraft would have in the center of the CG envelope. In our case, plenty of runway, a light touch on the controls, and we had no issue. As the plane burned fuel, it burned back into CG and was fine to handle. But, I've always taken that flight as a learning experience. That said, I've kept this accident in mind and perhaps it has been an unintended blessing to help keep me and my passengers safe in the years since.
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I was on staff at LDM when this happened for a year & half before. I knew and was good friends with both Keith and Don. For many years, there was intense debate by experts about why the accident happened. Weight and balance were the most common factors sighted. However, there was another factor that was often overlooked. At the time of the crash, there was a storm coming in. A pilot, with experience in weather, who came to visit the property sometime after the crash said there was a lot of wind shear going on at the time and he believed that was a factor. Regardless, of the cause, some good friends and great servants of God left the earth that day. It was a devastating time for the Last Days staff.
Thanks for commenting Kim. In researching (which includes people there that afternoon), weather was determined to not be a factor. The NTSB posted the dozen or so factors for the crash, and none were on the weather. Even though it would not absolve Don, I kind of wish it had been weather and not the aft CG that was the main cause.
@@nat.1998 Amen. My thoughts exactly. It was time according to God's plan! He is sovereign in His decisions. No one and nothing can stop His will. There are no accidents nor coincidences with God.
@@nat.1998 One of God’s promises is a long life. I don’t believe it’s His will for any person to die prematurely. Keith’s death can be used for good in the lives of others, but that doesn’t mean it was his time or God’s will. God doesn’t take away our ability to choose.
@@PeachWNK Thanks for your reply. I’ve been a Christian a long time and I’m still learning. I think your right. He gives us freedom in our choices. It seems like maybe Keith and the pilot sadly pushed the limits. His legacy lives on but it’s also a reminder that he was just a man. Imperfect like the rest of us. He’s probably be the first to admit it. But so glad he came to Christ. I am so glad anyone comes to Christ.
I live about 30 miles from that location and was friends with Keith's voice coach. Our friend called us as soon as he heard of the crash. As a non-pilot fan of aviation, I have always wondered about the actual cause of the accident. Many in the area and familiar with Keith have said that they believe Keith's personality was such that he overwhelmed the pilot, but the information in your video shines some light on other possible issues with the pilot himself. No matter the cause, it was a great loss to a burgeoning Christian music ministry. Keith once told our friend that he knew he didn't have much time so he drove himself always. As i have learned from my reading concerning flying, shortcuts cannot be taken. The possible costs as we saw here are way too high.
I always suspected foul play in that crash. Years later, I read a question a woman sent in to a minister. She asked if she could be forgiven for killing Keith Green, she worked for the CIA and said he was winning too many kids to Christ and they wired the plane to go down. Personally I believe his attacks on the Vatican were the bigger reason. She was told, of course she could be forgiven. That was probably 20 years ago that I read the above. Knowing what we now know of Criminals In America, everything fits. Mike
I believe now is the time for a renaissance of Keith's music. The insanity of those pushing for the elimination of normal families and gender is causing a generation of youth to hunger for truth. That Truth is Jesus and Keith and Melodie's deep love for God comes through his music. Most of the American Church has yet to catch up to his depth of love and devotion to Jeus.❤
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Dan, this was a tough watch for me. Knew Keith well. You are spot on with your analysis all the way around. it was the day the music died for me as well.
@@donhardister1 I think it's the fatherheart ,living alternative maternity home if I'm not mistaken. And Keith is buried near Leonard Ravenhill at garden valley cemetery. Pretty cool the property is still being used for ministry. 😊☝️🙏❤
So 1 month before his crash, my fiance and I went to see him, I believe at Hoover high in fresno, and by the time we got there, (and we weren't even late), there was no more room to fit anybody else, so a group of us gathered outside the auditorium and could still hear him sing. It turned out to be such a beautiful anointed spirit filled night of worship and praise. It was beautiful even tho we were outside. Then, a month later we find out he went home to be with his Lord whom he clearly loved with all his mind, heart, soul, and strength. There is a Redeemer, and Keith is singing His praises to His face now. God bless you brother.
I got my commercial license when I was about 45, I ended up being fired from a lot of jobs because of things just like this. I would tell the boss NO we are not going and bam, I was replaced. I guess if I was 25, I might not have made the same decision and might not be here today. Great lessons.
My son is following in my foot steps as a professional pilot, my advice to him is stay the hell away from part 135 flying, too much pressure by management to dance around the regulations and take stupid chances putting your certificate and your life at risk.
Keep at it and soon you’ll be into airplanes where number of seatbelts is the only control on passenger count... in turboprops and jets you wait for passenger count and then load fuel as able . Then it’s not an issue of takeoff weight but of range.
I'm glad this video came up on my feed. I was the usher coordinator for what turned out to be Keith's last public concert, in my hometown Columbia SC in early May, less than 3 months before the crash. I talked with Keith after the concert. I got a phone call at 1:30 am the morning after the crash. It was from the director of the concert, then a DJ at a local Christian station. I asked why he was calling me at such a time of night, then he told me that Keith had been killed in a plane crash. I can say from my own experiences that "Jesus Music" was never the same after that.
Hey Ronald.... we may have meant in passing, as I was at that exact same concert in Columbia. Drove in from Charleston with a buddy of mine. I was 22 at the time and loved Keith's music and his Newsletter. I even applied to attend his short institute that he was starting up that year. What struck me most was the awesome altar call he gave to the people. Only after he called people forward to get saved and to rededicate themselves.... did he ask for any offering to be taken. I remember he said there are only two types of souls left here tonight, as the others are getting counseling. The first are unbelievers.... and to you I say..... you are our guest. Please don't feel you must give anything to our ministry. We are here to only bring you a blessing. Then he said the second type of people left here are those who feel secure in their salvation. You are true followers of the Lord, and to you I say..... "Only give as God's Holy Spirit tells you to give" I'm sure there was much more, but you get the drift. It was the most amazing meeting of my life. I had just graduated from Youth For Christ and knew the science behind a good message and altar call, but Keith blew everything I had ever learned right out of the water. He was a Masterpiece for sure!!! After the meeting I wanted to go and have a word with him. I regret I didn't take the effort to do that, but there were people crowding around him and I wanted them to be ministered to. I felt my little "Thank You" did not deserve his time. Now I know different! Keith has been my spiritual mentor all my life bro... in 2007 something awesome happened to me. I had been in the Air Force, and driven Semi's but had never been into music at all...except to sing a few songs in church. That year I meant my wife on a Christian dating site. She lived in South Africa and had been in the music industry there for the last 25 years. We soon fell in love and God directed us for me to come live there. She helped me to get my songs arranged and produced. Yeah, I use to write songs while driving my big rig across America's highways! The album was produced in two stages. The first was done in 2010, and I sent a copy of it to Melody Green. The second remake of the album had 4 other tracks added and was finished 7 years from the original start date with 18 tracks! The final version is called, "Stranded No More" and is here on RUclips for free, in mp3 form. Yeah, what took me 7 years of hard labor in a foreign land - I'm giving away for free. To God be the Glory!!! I know no one can ever take Keith's special place in the Kingdom, but I know that God has taken me to Africa for many reasons. One of those.... is so that I could create some special music. I hope you'll agree.... I'm giving you the link to one of my personal favorites on the album. Song number 8.... called "Holy Eyes" My album has both Country and Classic Rock type songs on it. If you search my channel you'll also find some word for word bible productions that we've done here. I'm still living in South Africa now.... my wife left the music business and is now a teacher at a local high school here. Were hoping she will soon make Principal....lol. Keep us in your prayers. I never knew I was at Keith's very last public performance. Knowing that... has now given me a whole new perspective. How honored I was to be in that hall that night right up in the balcony overlooking his stage! Love ya man!!! Song Link: ruclips.net/video/oMdvI4K-RLs/видео.html
My family and I were there at the Township Auditorium and met up with people from our church located in Columbia. I believe we heard the news of the accident on WMHK. A very sad time indeed. I can't remember if he performed solo or if 2nd Chapter of Acts were there. Perhaps we saw them at the Township another time.
@@JenyLucyLocket Those would have been separate performances by Keith and Second Chapter. Keith was at Carolina Colisieum his last concert in Columbia. Before I was following him, he had some concerts either at Township or at Dreher High School Auditorium. I also helped with ushers at one of Second Chapter's concerts at Township. At that time I worked with a ministry at Cornerstone, in a small concrete block building near the old K Mart on Jackson Blvd.
@@ronald3419 Thank you for the clarification. I was in elementary school at the time so my memory is a little "iffy" but definitely not the feeling of going to the concerts or when I listen to the music. I came across this post searching for the Easter Song. Happy Easter Ronald. 😊
Thank you SO much for covering this!! I’ve always wondered what exactly happened. Keith Green was an amazing musician and man of God. I grew up listening to his music and still listen today! His ministry lives on ❤️
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Bless you Dan. Keith was an inspiration to me as well. His songs are an ever present part of my worship. My favourite being "Oh Lord you're beautiful, Your face is all I seek "
Yes xx it is my favourite of Keith's songs too! Though i only discovered him a few weeks ago (I'm old enough to be his mother) and was numbed to discover how he died in such tragic circumstances. 🙏🏽
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Wow!! Thank you for helping explain what happened. I was 15 when the plane crashed, and didn’t discover who Keith Green was till 1983. I still listen to his beautiful music all these years later.
I was two months shy of my 18th birthday-only I didn't know anything about Keith then. In the autumn of 1982, I got saved while on an intervarsity retreat; but didn't "meet" Keith until the spring of '83... I had been reading some of his LDM material that my church had loaned to me; and the tract that he and his wife Melody co- wrote-"Children: Things We Throw Away?" was the catalyst that brought me into the pro-life movement. Prior to that, I didn't know what abortion was, at all. It would be another few months to a year before I learned about Keith's death; which was really heartbreaking: and maybe a while after that when I was introduced to his music. His dedication to the Lord was amazing and virtually unparalleled in the Christian music world at that time.
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I'm not a pilot but dabbled a bit with RC models and I have to say you're description of this terrible accident was very informative thank you brother 👍Keith's music is so inspiring ! see you soon 🙏
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I grew up listening to Keith Green. I've listened to his music throughout my life. 51 years old now. And currently listening to his music a lot. Powerfully used by God to this very day. 🙏🏻
Wow! What an awesome analysis of Keith Green's accident! I was also a fan of Keith Green back in the day and always wondered what had happened! Thank you for such a comprehensive video... and a great application to our everyday flying! Even though I will probably never fly a twin from the left seat, I can take away so much information from this as a reminder of what I need to be aware of! Keep up the good work!
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I think the most remarkable-and maybe the post potent-aspect of your accident review videos is the humility. I know it's tempting to identify the obvious/major causal factor(s) and wag one's finger and say "don't do that" and "How could they have made such a basic mistake?" It is far more difficult to set aside one's ego and instead assume you're not necessarily a better pilot or person than the accident pilot, and to work hard to imagine how you might-step by incremental step-end up making the same bad choice(s). Your humble attitude and sympathy and your skill in articulating how these things happen in the world of real humans is something important you are contributing to reduce accidents and incidents. I appreciate it.
@@TakingOff With that all said, there are good pilots and there are bad pilots, and even good pilots can get lazy or do stupid things. We all do..... in whatever walk of life we may find ourselves. Why Keith needed to take two very small children on this plane ride is beyond me. Melody should have put her foot down on this for sure. We would still have Keith today.... old and grey! Everyone involved made costly mistakes....and when they all add up together... it spells Doom!!!! We are all link in a chain.... scary stuff for sure. Thanks for sharing with us your video on this event. I cried the day I learned he died. I told God, "Who can take his place.... there is no one like him in the entire world!" And....there never has been, nor ever will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Keith's 2 children who went with him were named Josiah and Bethany. Myself and my two young daughters were privileged to go to LDM with a program by YWAM called "10 Days Ablaze.". My heart still goes out to Melody and her two daughters left. I also have compassion for the families of the other couple and the pilot. Life is short... Keep our gaze focused on God!
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Baptism does not save . It is a symbol of obedience upon belief (salvation). The thief on the cross was not able to be baptized once he became a believer, having met Jesus that day as they both hung to their deaths that day. Just like paralyzed people may not or deathbed conversions in the hospital. Baptism is not always possible. It is not our acts that save us; but our belief and hearts God knows. Like the saying “there are no atheists in foxholes”. What about those who put their faith and trust in Him in those situations or during the last minutes of their lives? Just like wearing a wedding band doesn’t make you married; getting dunked doesn’t save you. It’s only a symbol of obedience once one has trusted upon Jesus as Lord and Savior and then is able to take the step of obedience thereafter to profess their step of belief and faithfulness @@johanneshartman4618
I was 16 when Keith died. My brother and I were fortunate to have seen him in concert…what a blessing! The 2nd Chapter of Acts had a memorial type concert after Keith passed. Maybe it was an anniversary of his death type thing. Can’t totally recall but Keith and 2nd chapter were a huge part of my life. My last name used to be Green and we would tell our kids about “ cousin Keith.” 😂they love his music too.
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That is incorrect doctrine. Baptism does not save a person. Nor does it produce The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit comes to live inside you the moment you believe and put your trust and faith upon Jesus. Baptism is a *symbol* of that belief and act of faith. It is an outward act of obedience- a public proclamation/profession of faith. Like a wedding ring doesn’t marry you- it’s a *symbol* of marriage. Because if you take off the wedding ring, you are still married. The thief on the cross was not baptized. There was no time once he believed upon Jesus after meeting Him in person hanging on the cross.@@johanneshartman4618
I just went from a Dan Gryder video to this one. The 1 common theme between you 2 is "NOSE DOWN" when you loose an engine or in this case can't get the 414 in a safe flying attitude! You and Dan are saving lives! Thanks for the video.
l was in Wichita KS a few years back at the Cessna delivery center. An air traffic controller- commercial pilot was ferrying a king air 200 down south somewhere .So he loses his left engine right after takeoff, doesn't even get the gear up and and does a wingover and crashes straight down into the flight safety building near the airport and kills a few pilots and instructors who were training in a simulator on the second floor .The right engine was still at full power when he augers in and the left prop was never feathered. It was just a tragic incident .lmagine being in that simulator, you just can't even imagine getting crushed by a king air in a while flying a simulator at flight safety. I think he had plenty of room to ethier set the aircraft back down on the runway ,maybe gone off the end into the grass at the most .But this airplane would have climbed away on just the right engine just fine for the go around too.l think he just froze or something
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I loved Kieth's music . I have wondered for years what happened . I'm a private pilot , Love what you guys do and know I know your a brother in the lord . God bless you for the content you guys share . Always informative . Maranatha
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What an awesome tutorial video. Not only did I learn a lot about the importance to flying, but Keith Green was and still is my favorite artist. Thanks for doing this video about that tragic day. What an eye-opener. God bless❤
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I was about to turn 12 when Keith, Bethany and Josiah died that day. Oh how I cried. Keith’s music was so raw and so honest. “Oh I can’t wait to get to Heaven, when you wipe away all my tears…”. He got his hope so much sooner than anticipated but that kept us all going. That hope. Thanks for the lesson on flying and for helping me remember Keith today. Great video.
I remember that event and was a Keith Green fan. I am also a private pilot and always wondered the details of what went wrong; thanks for this info, you have filled in the gaps.
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This story broke my heart. Those children were just starting life. The one statement that sticks in my mind from 30 years ago is:: AVIATION CAN BE EXTREMELY UNFORGIVING. So true. God bless to the 12 people who were lost. R.I.P.
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I believe you are referring to a very famous quote from the history of Aviation----"Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But, to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect"...that pretty much sums it up!
God bless you for this video. Last Days Ministries put out some unbelievable publications in my early years - sound-mixing for Christian bands in Australia.
Thank you Dan for doing this one. Keith has had a big impact on my life as a Worship pastor. I’m starting my flight training coming up in March with plans to eventually do work in missions. Remembering not to sleep in His light!
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Great video Dan. Ive got so much out of this as a new pilot. I appreciate making yourself vulnerable to help make your point about ego and people pleasing. And thankyou for sharing some of your testimony as a Christian. Best quarter hour Ive spent in a long time.
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I was managing editor of a small daily newspaper in Alabama when Keith Green's plane went down, so I saw the story come through on the AP wire that morning. It really shook me. Even though he wasn't that important to most of the people around me, I got a small wire story about his death into the paper that day. I had seen him in concert in Birmingham shortly before his death. Few deaths have shaken me in the moment as much as his did that day.
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Thank you Dan for this great video, even as you and me too still are grieving this huge loss. Thanking God for this brother as his legacy lives on and can bless us still today
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I remember so well, I was in music back in the day. He set the standard, he made so many people in the industry angry when he came against charging, he didn't even want to charge for concerts! What a heart he had. It was about the ministry.
Thank you Dan....this has helped me a great deal. Keith is still my No.1 when it comes to spirit filled music. Often wonder what would have been if he wouldn't have died.
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Thank you for this. I am a former USAF aircraft loader and weight and balance is vitally important for safety. Most aircraft will fly safely overweight as long as you do not lose an engine. Out of CG limits is a killer.
Any thoughts or comments on the (C17?) a few years ago in Afghanistan I believe? There was footage and it seemed like it just struggled, despite its massive power, and just had some sort of catastrophic load shift or something bizarre, it seemed to just roll and dive immediately after takeoff ...another aft center of gravity / balance issue? What heavy load / vehicles were on the load manifest? Just curious, that footage just really creeped me out.
@@bravovictor1922 cargo 747- armored vehicle or tank broke loose from its tie-downs in back of AC and rolled aft causing a massive CG shift just after takeoff. Not much the pilots could have done to avoid an impact of any sort.
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I was so shocked when I stumbled across this video. I had no idea that Keith had passed away. I met Keith briefly at an evening church service in Auburn, Calif. I stood at the piano talking to Keith and he played the piano for me. If memory serves, this would have been in the late 70s when I was in high school. I remember Keith being very anointed by the Holy Spirit as he spoke and when he played the piano. He touched my spirit as a young man, and I only met and spoke to him for the briefest period of time.
Thanks for this information! I loved Keith Green's music in the early 80's and was shocked to hear about this tragedy. I am also a private pilot and did my own unwise aft CG flight...4 adults (2 who were heavy) in a C-172, also on a hot summer day in Texas. The scariest part was landing, and I vowed to myself to never do that again! Yes, we as pilots must not give in to anyone we want to please, if it puts all of our lives in danger!
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This report is very concise and to the point. Thank you, and yes I loved Keith Green's music as well and was in shock after he died being a young man in Christ who just became acquainted with his Holy Ghost inspired music of life! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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I had just walked into my youth ministry class at Luther Rice seminary, I was putting my books on the desk when I heard over our classroom radio the announcement that Keith’s plane had crashed. I was a very young Christian, and he had made a huge impact on my life. I was devastated.
I remember this during my "hayday". I listened to all kinds of Christian music, and Keith Green was one of my favorite artists. It was indeed a sad day (more than a day) that could have gone differently had anyone "spoken up". I hope we can all learn from this. BTW, I appreciate your candor in this video.
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The plane crash hit me hard too. I always heard the plane was overweight but hearing your full breakdown sheds so much light on how this horrible event happened. Thank you for your insight.
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Thank you Dan. It’s really difficult to review events like Keith’s accident and provide thorough and thoughtful analysis. I was an hour away when this happened. We owned a Grumman Tiger based at Longview at the time. I was heartbroken and remember how everyone speculated about overweight issues. Love Melody’s testimony and their ministry that continues today. Will Always miss Keith. Thanks again 🙏
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I was flying out of Orange County Airport at the time, just learning as a teenager. Now I teach at an A&P school and show lots of crash videos for lessons. That's probably why this came up on my feed. I've heard rumors over the years and always wondered about that crash. Thank you for parsing it out. I love Keith's music, though I didn't even become a Christian until after he died. God bless Melody for keeping on so majestically!
Thank you for sharing this. I have always loved his music and style. I am a 80's child but born in the 70's. That style still appeals to be today. It was so simple and pure. I always wondered what had happened and you helped to bring closure to that mystery for me. You know as Christians we often ask, "Why did God allow it?" Forgetting that God doesn't correct every human error we make, he just leaves lessons to learn. God bless and safe flying!
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I loved and still love Keith Green’s Music. It was the draw card to my class room during lunch break for many High school students. 1976-79. I recall exactly where I was in 1982 - SINGAPORE- when I got the news but refused to believe it for several days
Interestingly Aircraft Manuals refer to the Weight and Balance Sheet as the TRIM Sheet. This concept immediately brings control of the aircraft to the fore! I remember once departing TBPB on a DHC6 I asked a heavy set older couple to move forward 2 rows, he being an old sailor broke into a smile and said "you trimming the plane". I'll never forget these words!
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Dan, thank you for posting this video! Keith’s crash was a huge blow to my day when it happened. I worshipped using his music and songs and loved his zeal for the Lord. And it was incredible how he decided to give away his albums and let the Lord take care of him. I was working out at the gym in Tulsa when I overheard two guys, I didn’t know, talking about the crash. I stopped and went over to them and asked them and they confirmed it was Keith Green. I’m still saddened and shocked all these years later. The Lord had a reason, and I trust Him for whatever that was. I’ve always wanted to know more detail about what happened. God orchestrated your video and gave you the right words. Sidenote: one of the guys I overheard talking about the crash that day in the gym ended up being the singer, Carmen! I hadn’t heard of him yet, but started listening to his music right after that. Very well done video and compassionate for Keith’s family! I didn’t know Keith personally, but his loss was almost like losing a close family member and I’ll never forget it.
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Great Video. Yep, Wednesday night youth service is when I learned about the Keith Green plane crash. Now I am a retired King Air 200 pilot and your comments about pressure to fly are spot-on. Fortunately I flew for the Govt. and had less pressure to fly in bad conditions.
Some years after the crash, another ministry called Teen Mania Ministries bought this land from LDM. We put on large youth rallies and had 3 tractor trailers to haul our equipment around. I learned how to back a truck on that old airstrip. I also have 30 hours student pilot training, so this was a great video to watch... For the analysis and the old pictures of the property! Thank you.
Just adding my thanks to so many others for this clear and compassionate explanation of what happened that day. Keith's death took a while for me to work through in my late 20's and I am still a huge fan, playing and singing his music when I worship our LORD!
Dan, just found this video after watching another about Keith's life. Amazing after all these years the profound impact this accident has on me. I'd like to commend you on the very professional yet heartfelt manner that you presented yourself and these tragic facts. As a fellow believer we certainly know that it's not "good-bye forever, but, it's "until we meet again". Blessings
I too was, am a big fan of Keith Green and his music. I had never seen an in depth description of that horrific crash until now. Although your video brought back sad memories, it was instructive to any pilot and greatly appreciated. I agree that most of us have at least been tempted to push the limits of our skills or of our aircraft’s capabilities. For that reason, reminders of tragic mistakes are always good. In spite of my solid belief in God’s sovereignty, it remains our responsibility to keep ourselves and our passengers as safe as humanly possible. Thanks for your humble words of wisdom!
@@TakingOff I went to last Keith Green concert before he died!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow. Thanks for doing this. Kieth had really touched my life with his music, and losing him hurt. I never new the details about the crash until now. Stay faithful, brother.
Tragic story. Thanks for telling the story. Kieth Green died around the time that I was born, but I’ve been listening to him since I was a kid. He had a powerful presentation of the gospel. “Superior judgment trumps superior skills”. I’ll try and apply that in my piloting.
Dan, thanks for this. I remember Keith's music and loved it. Thank you for putting your Christianity out there in a time when it isn't the "politically correct" thing to do.
I remember vividly picking up the phone and getting a call from my boyfriend at the time telling me that our favorite artist-Keith Green, had just been killed in a plane accident. We had planned to go to his concert together in Portland, Or-instead a few months later we went to his memorial concert hosted by his wife. It was there at that concert that I surrendered my life to Christ and was called to ministry. In all my years since I have never seen one anointed like Keith. His music was simple, and powerful. I still listen to his music and I often sing his rendition of Psalm 23 when I need to be reminded that God is in control.
I was blessed to see him in Anaheim during high school. I loved his music and was playing piano in several bands at the time. A fellow musician and Christian introduced me to him. He made such an impact on my life and am forever grateful.
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I am 79 years on earth and I recall loving his music. That was a challenging period of time. There were several new voices making us to think of tough things, new challenges. I was 15 years in what we called, "Home Missions," and I didn't have a lot of time for news, so I missed out on that tragic accident that claimed his live. Your memory, your music will live a long long time challenging and inspiring a new generation. RIP
I remember that I was at home. It was summer, and I remember hearing the news that Keith had passed away in a plane crash. I was about 15 years old and was always listening to Keith Green's music all the time. I remember being devastated! I still miss him. God bless his memory and his family. At least we know we'll see him again! Maranatha!
I am about your age and remember this day vividly. As a Christian, it was devastating news. Being a musician like Keith, and also being a pilot, I learned that God does protect us. But we also have to use common sense in our daily lives. Thanks for sharing this!! God bless you!!
I’d like to more about this “protection” God provides. Like the protection He gave Steven Curtis Chapman’s five year old daughter, who was run over by a vehicle and killed? Where is the “protection” that you are imagining? Christians get sick and die all the time. They get killed in accidents all the time. Their children get sick and die. And Christians are still dying because of their faith. One woman claimed Jesus personally pulled her blanket up to keep her warm. Really? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Thanks again for your usual comprehensive report! I think that the only thing better than learning by personally experiencing is through venues like yours! Included in my CFIs ALWAYS list was Wt. and Bal. every single flight! Unfortunately along with check lists , some people become complacent. The biggest tragedy is that one person's lack of experience and or judgement cost the lives of others! Ours is an unforgiving avocation. Thanks again and Blue Skies!
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I absolutely loved (and still love) Keith Green's music; still have his vinyl albums. I received the Last Days Ministries letter describing the tragic loss of Keith and his two children, and the others on board. I was driving home from work, was in a bumper to bumper traffic jam, opened the letter and read it, was shocked to my core. Sobbed all the way home, spent the evening in prayer. What a terrible loss. But....I will meet Keith someday!! Praise God for his life and testimony.
Thanks for all the time and effort that you put in to these videos. I learn a lot from watching your and others channels on aviation especially the crash videos. Thanks again.
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That day in July 1982 hit me hard as a Follower of Keith & LDM, being Born Again in 1976 many of Keiths songs were MY WORSHIP songs TO Jesus, getting involved with a VERY conservative church my actual Worship was with Keiths music at night, outside UNDER the stars singing with Keith ( on cassette ) on my knees hands lifted to the sky, I sang many of his songs THOUSANDS of times, those early days of direct worship carried me through till I gained some DEEP ROOTS in the word. Thank You Brother Keith, & Thank you Jesus for Keiths short time with us here on this planet !
A co-worker gave me a copy of the Last Days Magazine and the article by Keith "Will you be bored in heaven" Made me contemplate my lukewarm Christianity. In 1983 I attended a Christian musical event where Melodie spoke, the only thing I remember about her talk was she said " we need mechanics" (at last days ministries) I was a mechanic and at the time was working in another field. Long story short I ended up a few years later going down to Texas and spent about 6 months at LDM . Keith Green's music still moves me to this day. I am thankful for my experience with LDM. Thanks !!
Thank you for a very interesting video. I discovered Keiths’ music decades later as I was too young in -82, but I’ve always been fascinated with his life story and this added to my understanding of it. ”There, but for the grace of God…” -How true, we can only hope and trust.
Keith Green was a true inspiration to me too, and along with the John Denver plane crash, who was another inspirer, we can learn more about the physics, when it comes to safety in aviation. This is a great presentation, my wife's brother is a very experienced pilot, and there have been stories, where he has flown in challenging situations. Lesson from all this, is that human life comes first, and knowledge to reduce as many risks as possible, should be adhered to.
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I still listen to Keith's music to this day. I watch the music videos on RUclips . I am drawn closer to Jesus and blessed beyond measure. Can't wait to meet him in our Fathers Kingdom🙏💕
Great story my Dad was a small Airport Manager for 25 years and flew Cessna 's for years. We had one airplane crash one morning cloudy, foggy, cold not good weather. The pilot didn't use his instruments my Dad shared with me he got confused and crashed right into the ground north of the Airport. It really impacted my Dad learn from other people's tragic decisions.
Nice work. Thanks. In the grander scheme, I've often wondered why O Sovereign Lord allowed this to happen. Keith also had a profound impact on me in those years. A few months ago a teen sang one of his songs in our church. Very powerful music; brings back recollections of his earnest faith; admirable. Chuckw
This was very interesting. I’m not a pilot but I am a Christian. I’ve seen a documentary about Keith Green and love his music. Thanks for posting this!
On my second flight lesson (I'm still currently training) I performed a soft field takeoff in a Cessna 172. During the takeoff roll my instructor said when the plane started to fly to push the nose down and fly about 15 feet off the ground to ride the ground effect, and I thought that was crazy! But after explanation it made a lot of sense, and to see it in this video reminds me of it, excellent lesson to take away.
Interestingly the graph in the video shows the AOA of the stall is lower IGE(In Ground Effect) than OGE which makes sense to keep the nose low to accelerate IGE! Well the actual AOA may be the same because just as in the freestream at higher AOA the stagnation point moves aft below the LE(Leading Edge), IGE the stagnation moves aft under the LE which may produce a more vertical component(upwash) to the airflow at the LE, causing the Wing to 'think' its at a higher AOA
Thank you. I'm almost ready to take the written for private pilot. The last 2 days I've been learning weight and balance. The material I have (on-line school) wasn't getting it through my thick skull. Tried reading chapter 2 of FAA's Weight and Balance book. The diagrams changed (I think 2-11 & 2-13), which was confusing until I figured out the error, but the words were Greek after that. A quick RUclips search and I found a video that explained it well and got it to click for me. Your video drives home the point that we shouldn't just learn it for the test, but to apply the information before and during flight so its not the last thing we do.
I’ve pastored and helped to plant churches in Kenya and Mexico City… to this day, Keith Green was the initial inspiration after my salvation; 5 years after his passing ( 1987)! I went from Ozzy to Keith in my new birth! Great video brother 🙌🏻
Tks for another one Dan! I remember that the first exercise my CFI made me do was work out a weight and balance problem for the 152 we were flying, always stuck in my mind.
Keith Green was like a lot of Christians I have known and admired - no compromise (sound familiar?)! The force of his absolute commitment is something hard to argue with. But it was the job of the pilot to do so. I have always been frustrated by the loss of someone so early in such a wonderful ministry. My kids grew up listening to Keith Green and I've been in several groups (bluegrass) that adapted some of his songs. I wish we had someone like him now to inspire young people and keep us all committed! To be the pilot for someone like that requires a will and forceful personality, too. No shrinking violets need apply!
Keith Green's music is literally the only music that has got me crying out loud. Just beautiful. The man was something else.
I get tears in my eyes every time I hear "There is a Redeemer." I don't know what it is, whether it's the melody, the words or both, but that man had a gift, there is no denying it.
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“Make my life a prayer to You. I wanna do what you want me to. No empty words and no white lies, no token prayers, no compromise…” Gone, but never forgotten, Keith Green.
One of my Favorite Songs! 🌹🌹🌹 Keith Greene's songs were from the Heart!
My life' s prayer....every morning on the way to work
Beautiful! Yes, I grew up with Keith Green’s music as well. Time stops when all these lives ended. TY for reminding me of these words. God bless you. 🤍🙏🏼🤍✨
Thank you for your insight.
Thanks for sharing. Now comes a prayer of complete surrender using caps as emphasis to help others find THE WAY AT GOD'S MERCY, HIS LOVE GIFT IN JESUS CHRIST.
On a balcony of space STEPPED A PURE AND HOLY GOD. IN AWESOME SOLITUDE YOU STOOD ALONE. Not one faint star to give YOU light; just endless darkness, it was blackest night. But somehow in the darkness YOU COULD SEE.
YOU SAW mountains high and lofty, YOU SAW valleys lush and green. YOU SAW babbling brooks, and wildflowers grow, YOU EVEN HEARD a robin sing. Then through YOUR COMPASSION STANDING OUT THERE IN YOUR TOMORROW, YOU SAW forum's visitors, their families and friends. 🥰
YOU SAW them as sinners (missing the mark resulting in their weaknesses prevailing causing guilt of wrong doing) because there is no intrinsic righteousness in any of us due to Adam’s sin. YOU SAW them as they grew from a baby into adulthood due to YOUR HANDS OF MERCY. 🥰 YOU SAW them pursuing a career path for the purpose of obtaining the gains of the world not realizing that it is a loss compared to what YOU DID on the cross. YOU SAW them working long and laboring hard to receive the grace by justification even though YOU stated, "This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."(John 6:29 KJV) YOU SAW the unwillingness to accept YOUR PLAN OF SALVATION THROUGH YOUR SON JESUS CHRIST. YOU SAW them living with the guilt of committing crimes to the heart. YOU SAW them enduring personal crisis. YOU SAW the weight of the burden on their hearts with each tribulation. YOU SAW them seeking comfort from the above mentioned topography, ONE OF THE MANY MARVELS YOUR PERFECT HANDS HAVE MADE. 👏👏👏 YOU SAW their worries about tomorrow.
If their hearts were a window that they could look through, oh the pains and scars they would see. What a cruel fate the skin gives as a mask to the inward pain. But the skin couldn’t cover THE SUFFERING YOUR ONE AND ONLY SON BORED on the cross as PAYMENT for all our sins because HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS ALONE HAD THE MERIT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR HOLINESS. Indeed, ONLY HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS SUFFICIENT TO SAVE us from this present evil world as evidenced by Mary's song of praise. "And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour." (Luke 1:46-47 KJV) Awesome thanks to YOUR GREAT PARDON for being easy on the heart. 🥰
They have seen a lot of crazy things done in YOUR NAME. For example, the father of lies futile attempts to make crooked the right ways of the LORD to turn people away from faith in the WORKS OF JESUS CHRIST ALONE. How can anyone bear the thought of his or her life story detracting from the GLORY AND HONOR KNOWN TO BELONG TO CHRIST ALONE? As a consequence, YOU ARE A MYSTERY OF GREAT MYSTERY to them. Despite this conviction, YOU ARE MINDFUL of them as evidenced by the fact that YOUR JUDGEMENT is not speedy, allowing them to pursue the desires of the flesh.
They are aware of hypocrisy in religious assemblies that like to be seen and heard. In addition, secular education teaches that there is no right and wrong, if GOD exists there is no way of relating to HIM, and moral standards shift according to the whims of fashion. Therefore, their minds are conditioned to question everything this world has to offer including “THY POWER THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE DISPLAYED.” They have accepted the heavy burden of dealing with the troubles of this life and seek to know another way, YOU THE GREAT COMFORTER TO ALL who did receive YOU as their personal SAVIOR. Still, YOU have shown them NEW MERCY every day with each thought they make and each breath they take.
Unfortunately, like the prodigal son, we are all guilty of wandering far from YOU LORD because the negative experiences of our lives tend to build roadblocks to the TRUTH. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST HELP them to identify the way, truth, and eternal life (that is YOU). Since to know and follow your SPIRIT is more exciting than any 007 movies, and YOU DELIGHT MAKING the ordinary into extraordinary. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST MAKE them understand that there is no way around YOUR TRUTH, and that there is something about YOUR NAME. As time marches on, JESUS CHRIST HELP them defeat in their minds what is false in YOUR EYES.
LORD GUIDE their thoughts to know that the path of sin is hard on their hearts for the purpose of crying out to YOU to know the joy, peace of having the heavy burden LIFTED by THE GOD OF PEACE I AM, and ANCHOR their souls in THE HAVEN OF REST. In other words, LORD use the storms in their lives to get a hold of them to trust YOU and believe. In truth, YOU ARE THE JOY that seekest them through pain.
LORD HELP their fainting hearts to believe that YOU, who was slain on the cross over 2000 years ago has the POWER TO CHANGE lives today through the INSTANTANEOUS GREAT FAVOR from GOD to the house of Israel made known in believers by YOU to make YOUR NAME EVERLASTING. 🥰 For as the statue liberates the citizens so the cross liberates the soul. ONLY YOU can calm the trouble waters of the mind when one admits to wanting salvation from one’s sinful nature, JESUS IS LORD, and believes in the heart that GOD RAISED HIM from the dead TO LIFT the heavy burden of sin's guilt away from the heart in accordance to YOUR WORD found in Psalm 51:1-10 KJV. 👏👏👏👏👏👏 O, the wonder of it all to experience within the flesh the feeling of a tree being cut back/pruned in order for it to grow stronger and more beautiful after meditating on the words of said Psalm. 🥰🙌
LORD MAKE them know that ONLY YOUR HOLY SPIRIT, through the experience of a new birth within believers, can prevent the family circle from being broken because THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE YOU HAVE GRANTED means a chapter of their lives is decided. Creation sings the rebirth song for them yearly, through YOUR PROMISE of springtime, giving rise to the idea that by the mention of YOUR NAME flowers grow, and the desert blooms again. 🥰
LORD GUIDE their understanding of words to use to come into YOUR PRESENCE with an honest reverence of WHO YOU ARE to experience the beauty that time can't erase YOUR WISDOM resting on their faces. LORD STRENGTHEN their determination to never waiver in efforts to search for YOU because the wages of sin is too high for anyone to pay. Additionally, THE KING OF KINGS is needed in their hearts to learn how to expand their capacity to love for YOU are LOVE in any language. 🥰 Once they learn to speak it with boldness through YOUR WONDERFUL COUNSELING all the world will hear, and know that LOVE is the language of their hearts. So LORD, KEEP KNOCKING on their door until they let YOU in to know hardships and struggles will end with a GREAT CELEBRATION WITH YOU. 🥰🙌
If one believes faith cannot be forced, YOU WILL GIVE that individual over to the stubborn heart to follow own counsel which will surely fail him or her to the extent that the punishment will last forever found in Psalms 81 NIV. Given this, I pray that YOU WILL MAKE that person see that this feeling is wasted for a world in which we become strangers as we age, gives us thrills instead of peace, aims to solve a problem but creates another, and unrest surges with each passing generation. Shed some light into their broken hearts for YOU ARE THE GREAT JEHOVAH, THE GOD THAT HEALETH thee.
Lastly, LORD when they call on YOU in earnest prayer to come into their hearts to be born again (repentance manifesting itself in a changed life), I pray that YOU WILL GIVE them the blessed assurance of their salvation because nothing breaks YOUR HEART, or tears YOU apart like when they cry from the trials of the devil who comes to slander, falsely accuse, steal, kill & destroy. Only by drawing nearer to YOU LORD will put them on a path to a glorious one way trip winding upward to YOU where pain is not welcome because the heart will never break anymore. For ONLY YOU UNDERSTANDS our tears since YOU LOOK at the heart, while humans look at the flesh.
O LOVE that will not let them go. When they don't have the strength to try, and have cried all they can cry hear their hearts that need YOU more today than yesterday. Many thanks LORD for speaking TRUTH in our lives TO BLESS those who are not offended by THEE. LET YOUR WILL BE DONE because YOUR LOVE ALONE CONQUERS everything by WAITING for them to cease struggling, and finally surrender to YOUR EMBRACE to learn about YOUR LOVE AND PROMISE TO TAKE CARE of your children exquisitely. 🥰 Since... "at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore"... (Psalms 16:11 KJV), and the nail print for them to know YOU by answering the following question. How did CHRIST LOVE people into a relationship with HIM? 🥰
I remember the crash so well. I was a very young teen mother, married at 17, divorced by 19. Melody had written me a letter of encouragement on being strong for my baby boy...while she was in mourning for Keith. She and Keith gave of themselves so passionately.
I did my best to become the mother she said i would be, I am now a grandmother. I've kept her letter in my Bible all these many years. Someday soon, I'll meet them both, in the sweet by and by. I can't wait.
I'll never forget the words that Melody used in her book about the crash; that Keith and her children "stepped off into eternity" that day, but knew they'd be together again some day. Lord bless her and everything she puts her hands to.💝🙏
Thanks for sharing, God bless xo
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Thank you for sharing this courage and peace... from both of you. Wishing extra angels of comfort to Keith's beloved.
Blessings to all.
Beautiful! Wow.
Also a young teen Mom & wife! He ended up very violent, so didn't last long! On & off the street with my baby boy, BUT GOD!❤ Keith's music was shelter in the storm! It didn't matter what you faced, it came on the radio & you immediately felt the presence of HOLY SPIRIT ❤ Seeing & feeling Keith's faith & passion for the LORD inspired many in their faith walks! He was definitely a gift from GOD!❤ Your story is a beautiful tale of faith & persevering through the worst of it all! Not much worse than mourning the loss of your whole family at once, & be left behind! But it sounds like she pressed into her faith & relationship with GOD, & used all the pain for HIS GLORY by then ministering to others! I find it very helpful to help other's in the midst of our trials & tribulations! That & praising HIM through it all seems to get us through the hard stuff so much smoother! Thank GOD for such as Keith & his lovely wife!❤
As a former USAF aviation mishap investigator, hats off to you for this video and emphasis on fundamentals.
Keith Green had a significant impact on my early Christian life and I look fwd to thanking him for his service to the King Eternal.
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Loved and still cry when he sings I was about to have my first child when he died....God knew his days...he "burned" for JESUS we know we will see him soon...AMAZING TALENT❤❤
Amen!
We're still listening to Keith's music today!
I really wish that they'd make a movie about his life and music.
I was a student at Christ For The Nations Institute (CFNI) in Dallas, Texas, the day this accident happened. The student body, staff, and faculty were all shocked when the news of the Keith Green crash reached us. Keith, Melody, and Last Days Ministries were very well known to us, and greatly appreciated. We held prayer vigils for Melody and the members of Last Days Ministries. As tragic as this was, our thoughts were directed to two principles: (1) Keith had reached and won many souls for Jesus in his brief life and he and his children were now with Christ, (2) Our faith can never be nonchalant over natural laws; yes miracles do happen, but we are always responsible for living wisely. Thank you for your insightful and compassionate remarks.
Thank you.
Very WELL SAID
I graduated from CFNI just before Keith died in that plane crash.
Thank you. Especially the second thought about natural laws and faith. I have always felt there is a difference and may I add A RADICALLY BIG DIFFERENCE between going into a tragic situation totally unplanned and doing something that you KNOW is dangerous deliberately.
It is one thing if you a re flying and there is no call for bad weather and when get there an unexpected storm comes out of nowhere. Or anything that really comes unexpectedl!!
It is another thing when the plane is several hundred pounds overweight and a storm is also called to be ahead and you choose to fly into it anyway!
@@warrenroy5376 what I see here was a ministry leader with a plane he was still in the process of figuring out. He may have merely trusted a pilot that had less understanding than he suspected. The pilot, also; may not have realized the possibilities of his lack of judgement for this smaller scale situation. Sadly, we can only learn from other's mistakes at this point.
Abba G-d bless those left behind with their memories and legacy 🙏🏼🙏🏼🕊️
Thanks for this. Keith's death was a very big deal to me as a Christian and senior in high school in 1982, I was mailed both "So You Wanna Go Back to Egypt" and "No Compromise" cassettes from LD Ministries offered for free. I sent a $5 bill both times which was a big deal as a young teenager at the time. Their newsletter also introduced me to Creation vs evolutionism for the first time. I was amazed at the apologetics of it all. 40 years now. Kind of crazy where we are now but Keith's ministry was very impactful to me as a young Christian...
I still have all my Last Days ministry newsletters!! I think I sent $10 for each cassette I got. Money well spent. His ministry changed my life! I saw him in concert in Modesto, California in 1978 or 79. I was never the same after that!💞
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Like wedding bands, water and baptism are “symbols” of the decision to trust Christ as Lord and Savior and an act of obedience. But sometimes people accept on deathbeds in hospitals- like the thief on the cross- “today you will be with Me in Paradise.”!!!! @@johanneshartman4618
I am in my 32nd year as a missionary, starting out with 4 years at Last Days Ministries; what a blessing this precious brother was...and continues to be in his ongoing legacy.
I am a youth pastor. I’d love to talk to you about Keith!!
@@mustorbust_ he was more needed there than here, we don’t need to be selfish
Sobering reminder of our human frailty and fallibility. Jesus did not walk away from Calvary; he was not merely unconscious when they took him down from that cross. He was dead. He was dead. And his body wrecked. Destroyed. Drained of blood. His heart cut through by the thrust of a lance. And yet, our Saviour had, within himself - and through the power of His Father (and also the power of the Holy Spirit, through whom He was conceived) Jesus possessed the ability to resurrect. Which is why we are here, trusting in Him, that we also may resurrect some day. We can do nothing without God. Nothing. Yet "we can do all things in Him who strengthens us." Dear Jesus please bring those 2 families to Paradise, there was no evil in them, just exuberance and, perhaps, a sense of being invincible. Failure to follow safe procedures... we pay a big price when we expect God to do the ordinary things we should have done - God doesn't usually work like that xx
That plane was a disaster waiting to happen. There’s no God’s will. (Or the infantile “he was needed there, not here.”)
I guess the dead children were needed more there than here, too. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Kieth Green was an important musician to me and my young family. I will always cherish the insightful lyrics and humor of his songs. His ministry encourages me to this day. Soon we will meet again with our Lord Jesus Christ.
I was between my junior and senior year at college when this accident ocurred, and had just began taking flying lessons. Being a fan of Keith, having seen him in concert, it hurt tremendously. Fast forward to now, I'm a 20K hour airline captain. But... I've always taken this accident to heart. It is our responsibilities as pilots to cross the T's and dot the I's. Not that I'm perfect. Early in my career I got put into a similar situation with a Piper Navajo by my boss. I have no doubt we were over gross and aft of legal CG. I'll add this, if you've never flown an aircraft at aft (or beyond aft) CG, it flies terribly different. It is pitch sensitive (easy to over control) and lacks the stability in pitch the same aircraft would have in the center of the CG envelope. In our case, plenty of runway, a light touch on the controls, and we had no issue. As the plane burned fuel, it burned back into CG and was fine to handle. But, I've always taken that flight as a learning experience.
That said, I've kept this accident in mind and perhaps it has been an unintended blessing to help keep me and my passengers safe in the years since.
TY for sharing that! Praise the Lord!❤
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
I was on staff at LDM when this happened for a year & half before. I knew and was good friends with both Keith and Don. For many years, there was intense debate by experts about why the accident happened. Weight and balance were the most common factors sighted. However, there was another factor that was often overlooked. At the time of the crash, there was a storm coming in. A pilot, with experience in weather, who came to visit the property sometime after the crash said there was a lot of wind shear going on at the time and he believed that was a factor. Regardless, of the cause, some good friends and great servants of God left the earth that day. It was a devastating time for the Last Days staff.
Thanks for commenting Kim. In researching (which includes people there that afternoon), weather was determined to not be a factor. The NTSB posted the dozen or so factors for the crash, and none were on the weather. Even though it would not absolve Don, I kind of wish it had been weather and not the aft CG that was the main cause.
When we lose those close to us we don’t always know the why. When it’s God’s time, He brings us home. I have solice in His sovereignty.
@@nat.1998
Amen.
My thoughts exactly.
It was time according to God's plan! He is sovereign in His decisions.
No one and nothing can stop His will.
There are no accidents nor coincidences with God.
@@nat.1998 One of God’s promises is a long life. I don’t believe it’s His will for any person to die prematurely. Keith’s death can be used for good in the lives of others, but that doesn’t mean it was his time or God’s will. God doesn’t take away our ability to choose.
@@PeachWNK Thanks for your reply. I’ve been a Christian a long time and I’m still learning. I think your right. He gives us freedom in our choices. It seems like maybe Keith and the pilot sadly pushed the limits. His legacy lives on but it’s also a reminder that he was just a man. Imperfect like the rest of us. He’s probably be the first to admit it. But so glad he came to Christ. I am so glad anyone comes to Christ.
I live about 30 miles from that location and was friends with Keith's voice coach. Our friend called us as soon as he heard of the crash. As a non-pilot fan of aviation, I have always wondered about the actual cause of the accident. Many in the area and familiar with Keith have said that they believe Keith's personality was such that he overwhelmed the pilot, but the information in your video shines some light on other possible issues with the pilot himself. No matter the cause, it was a great loss to a burgeoning Christian music ministry. Keith once told our friend that he knew he didn't have much time so he drove himself always. As i have learned from my reading concerning flying, shortcuts cannot be taken. The possible costs as we saw here are way too high.
Thanks for sharing Randy.
I always suspected foul play in that crash.
Years later, I read a question a woman sent in to a minister. She asked if she could be forgiven for killing Keith Green, she worked for the CIA and said he was winning too many kids to Christ and they wired the plane to go down.
Personally I believe his attacks on the Vatican were the bigger reason. She was told, of course she could be forgiven. That was probably 20 years ago that I read the above. Knowing what we now know of Criminals In America, everything fits. Mike
It's crazy... Keith then seemed to be prophesying his future or was it a feeling in his gut. I just don't know.
I believe now is the time for a renaissance of Keith's music. The insanity of those pushing for the elimination of normal families and gender is causing a generation of youth to hunger for truth. That Truth is Jesus and Keith and Melodie's deep love for God comes through his music. Most of the American Church has yet to catch up to his depth of love and devotion to Jeus.❤
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Dan, this was a tough watch for me. Knew Keith well. You are spot on with your analysis all the way around. it was the day the music died for me as well.
Keith was the real deal. His life, ministry was a big influence in me becoming a Christian at 20 in 2003.
Hey Dan, could you possibly tell me where the ranch was in Tyler by chance?
@@crazydrummerofdoom Garden Valley outside of Lindale Tx.
@@donhardister1 I think it's the fatherheart ,living alternative maternity home if I'm not mistaken. And Keith is buried near Leonard Ravenhill at garden valley cemetery. Pretty cool the property is still being used for ministry. 😊☝️🙏❤
Wow...what a blessing you knew Him well...but what a tradegy... May you Jesus continue to give His family peace and comfort.
So 1 month before his crash, my fiance and I went to see him, I believe at Hoover high in fresno, and by the time we got there, (and we weren't even late), there was no more room to fit anybody else, so a group of us gathered outside the auditorium and could still hear him sing. It turned out to be such a beautiful anointed spirit filled night of worship and praise. It was beautiful even tho we were outside. Then, a month later we find out he went home to be with his Lord whom he clearly loved with all his mind, heart, soul, and strength. There is a Redeemer, and Keith is singing His praises to His face now.
God bless you brother.
I got my commercial license when I was about 45, I ended up being fired from a lot of jobs because of things just like this. I would tell the boss NO we are not going and bam, I was replaced. I guess if I was 25, I might not have made the same decision and might not be here today. Great lessons.
My son is following in my foot steps as a professional pilot, my advice to him is stay the hell away from part 135 flying, too much pressure by management to dance around the regulations and take stupid chances putting your certificate and your life at risk.
I'd fly with you anytime sir.
I'd have told the boss, YOU fly the plane then!
Keep at it and soon you’ll be into airplanes where number of seatbelts is the only control on passenger count... in turboprops and jets you wait for passenger count and then load fuel as able . Then it’s not an issue of takeoff weight but of range.
Well, at least you’re alive…
I'm glad this video came up on my feed. I was the usher coordinator for what turned out to be Keith's last public concert, in my hometown Columbia SC in early May, less than 3 months before the crash. I talked with Keith after the concert. I got a phone call at 1:30 am the morning after the crash. It was from the director of the concert, then a DJ at a local Christian station. I asked why he was calling me at such a time of night, then he told me that Keith had been killed in a plane crash. I can say from my own experiences that "Jesus Music" was never the same after that.
Hey Ronald.... we may have meant in passing, as I was at that exact same concert in Columbia. Drove in from Charleston with a buddy of mine. I was 22 at the time and loved Keith's music and his Newsletter. I even applied to attend his short institute that he was starting up that year. What struck me most was the awesome altar call he gave to the people. Only after he called people forward to get saved and to rededicate themselves.... did he ask for any offering to be taken. I remember he said there are only two types of souls left here tonight, as the others are getting counseling. The first are unbelievers.... and to you I say..... you are our guest. Please don't feel you must give anything to our ministry. We are here to only bring you a blessing. Then he said the second type of people left here are those who feel secure in their salvation. You are true followers of the Lord, and to you I say..... "Only give as God's Holy Spirit tells you to give" I'm sure there was much more, but you get the drift. It was the most amazing meeting of my life. I had just graduated from Youth For Christ and knew the science behind a good message and altar call, but Keith blew everything I had ever learned right out of the water. He was a Masterpiece for sure!!! After the meeting I wanted to go and have a word with him. I regret I didn't take the effort to do that, but there were people crowding around him and I wanted them to be ministered to. I felt my little "Thank You" did not deserve his time. Now I know different! Keith has been my spiritual mentor all my life bro... in 2007 something awesome happened to me. I had been in the Air Force, and driven Semi's but had never been into music at all...except to sing a few songs in church. That year I meant my wife on a Christian dating site. She lived in South Africa and had been in the music industry there for the last 25 years. We soon fell in love and God directed us for me to come live there. She helped me to get my songs arranged and produced. Yeah, I use to write songs while driving my big rig across America's highways! The album was produced in two stages. The first was done in 2010, and I sent a copy of it to Melody Green. The second remake of the album had 4 other tracks added and was finished 7 years from the original start date with 18 tracks! The final version is called, "Stranded No More" and is here on RUclips for free, in mp3 form. Yeah, what took me 7 years of hard labor in a foreign land - I'm giving away for free. To God be the Glory!!! I know no one can ever take Keith's special place in the Kingdom, but I know that God has taken me to Africa for many reasons. One of those.... is so that I could create some special music. I hope you'll agree.... I'm giving you the link to one of my personal favorites on the album. Song number 8.... called "Holy Eyes" My album has both Country and Classic Rock type songs on it. If you search my channel you'll also find some word for word bible productions that we've done here. I'm still living in South Africa now.... my wife left the music business and is now a teacher at a local high school here. Were hoping she will soon make Principal....lol. Keep us in your prayers. I never knew I was at Keith's very last public performance. Knowing that... has now given me a whole new perspective. How honored I was to be in that hall that night right up in the balcony overlooking his stage! Love ya man!!! Song Link: ruclips.net/video/oMdvI4K-RLs/видео.html
@@thommysides4616 Tyfs and for your music. God bless🕊
My family and I were there at the Township Auditorium and met up with people from our church located in Columbia. I believe we heard the news of the accident on WMHK. A very sad time indeed. I can't remember if he performed solo or if 2nd Chapter of Acts were there. Perhaps we saw them at the Township another time.
@@JenyLucyLocket Those would have been separate performances by Keith and Second Chapter. Keith was at Carolina Colisieum his last concert in Columbia. Before I was following him, he had some concerts either at Township or at Dreher High School Auditorium. I also helped with ushers at one of Second Chapter's concerts at Township. At that time I worked with a ministry at Cornerstone, in a small concrete block building near the old K Mart on Jackson Blvd.
@@ronald3419 Thank you for the clarification. I was in elementary school at the time so my memory is a little "iffy" but definitely not the feeling of going to the concerts or when I listen to the music. I came across this post searching for the Easter Song. Happy Easter Ronald. 😊
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Keith Green's music. Always have. Very powerful. #soyouwannagobacktoegypt
Thank you SO much for covering this!! I’ve always wondered what exactly happened. Keith Green was an amazing musician and man of God. I grew up listening to his music and still listen today! His ministry lives on ❤️
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if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
That is incorrect doctrine.@@johanneshartman4618
❤ Thanks for explaining the crash. So so sad. I am 67 years old and i remember hearing about the crash.
Bless you Dan. Keith was an inspiration to me as well. His songs are an ever present part of my worship. My favourite being "Oh Lord you're beautiful, Your face is all I seek "
Mine too, it was played at My baby Sister's funeral and My Daughter's dedication.
Yes xx it is my favourite of Keith's songs too! Though i only discovered him a few weeks ago (I'm old enough to be his mother) and was numbed to discover how he died in such tragic circumstances. 🙏🏽
You put this love in my heart song
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Wow!! Thank you for helping explain what happened. I was 15 when the plane crashed, and didn’t discover who Keith Green was till 1983. I still listen to his beautiful music all these years later.
Yup. Same here 👍
Some of the songs are PURE worship for sure, very anointed.
I was two months shy of my 18th birthday-only I didn't know anything about Keith then. In the autumn of 1982, I got saved while on an intervarsity retreat; but didn't "meet" Keith until the spring of '83... I had been reading some of his LDM material that my church had loaned to me; and the tract that he and his wife Melody co- wrote-"Children: Things We Throw Away?" was the catalyst that brought me into the pro-life movement. Prior to that, I didn't know what abortion was, at all. It would be another few months to a year before I learned about Keith's death; which was really heartbreaking: and maybe a while after that when I was introduced to his music. His dedication to the Lord was amazing and virtually unparalleled in the Christian music world at that time.
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD😊
I'm not a pilot but dabbled a bit with RC models and I have to say you're description of this terrible accident was very informative thank you brother 👍Keith's music is so inspiring ! see you soon 🙏
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
That is incorrect misleading doctrine.@@johanneshartman4618
I grew up listening to Keith Green. I've listened to his music throughout my life. 51 years old now. And currently listening to his music a lot. Powerfully used by God to this very day. 🙏🏻
Wow! What an awesome analysis of Keith Green's accident! I was also a fan of Keith Green back in the day and always wondered what had happened! Thank you for such a comprehensive video... and a great application to our everyday flying! Even though I will probably never fly a twin from the left seat, I can take away so much information from this as a reminder of what I need to be aware of! Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
I think the most remarkable-and maybe the post potent-aspect of your accident review videos is the humility. I know it's tempting to identify the obvious/major causal factor(s) and wag one's finger and say "don't do that" and "How could they have made such a basic mistake?" It is far more difficult to set aside one's ego and instead assume you're not necessarily a better pilot or person than the accident pilot, and to work hard to imagine how you might-step by incremental step-end up making the same bad choice(s). Your humble attitude and sympathy and your skill in articulating how these things happen in the world of real humans is something important you are contributing to reduce accidents and incidents. I appreciate it.
I really appreciate your kind words.
He spoke directly Don was 100% responsible.
@@TakingOff With that all said, there are good pilots and there are bad pilots, and even good pilots can get lazy or do stupid things. We all do..... in whatever walk of life we may find ourselves. Why Keith needed to take two very small children on this plane ride is beyond me. Melody should have put her foot down on this for sure. We would still have Keith today.... old and grey! Everyone involved made costly mistakes....and when they all add up together... it spells Doom!!!! We are all link in a chain.... scary stuff for sure. Thanks for sharing with us your video on this event. I cried the day I learned he died. I told God, "Who can take his place.... there is no one like him in the entire world!" And....there never has been, nor ever will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Keith's 2 children who went with him were named Josiah and Bethany. Myself and my two young daughters were privileged to go to LDM with a program by YWAM called "10 Days Ablaze.". My heart still goes out to Melody and her two daughters left. I also have compassion for the families of the other couple and the pilot. Life is short... Keep our gaze focused on God!
if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of GOD, youre spiritually death you need to be baptized and receive the SPIRIT of GOD
Baptism does not save . It is a symbol of obedience upon belief (salvation). The thief on the cross was not able to be baptized once he became a believer, having met Jesus that day as they both hung to their deaths that day. Just like paralyzed people may not or deathbed conversions in the hospital. Baptism is not always possible. It is not our acts that save us; but our belief and hearts God knows. Like the saying “there are no atheists in foxholes”. What about those who put their faith and trust in Him in those situations or during the last minutes of their lives? Just like wearing a wedding band doesn’t make you married; getting dunked doesn’t save you. It’s only a symbol of obedience once one has trusted upon Jesus as Lord and Savior and then is able to take the step of obedience thereafter to profess their step of belief and faithfulness @@johanneshartman4618
@@cmwd9734 read jesus words jesus said if youre not born again trough water and spirit you cannot enter the kingdom of god
I was 16 when Keith died. My brother and I were fortunate to have seen him in concert…what a blessing! The 2nd Chapter of Acts had a memorial type concert after Keith passed. Maybe it was an anniversary of his death type thing. Can’t totally recall but Keith and 2nd chapter were a huge part of my life. My last name used to be Green and we would tell our kids about “ cousin Keith.” 😂they love his music too.
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That is doctrinally incorrect. @@johanneshartman4618
That is incorrect doctrine. Baptism does not save a person. Nor does it produce The Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit comes to live inside you the moment you believe and put your trust and faith upon Jesus. Baptism is a *symbol* of that belief and act of faith. It is an outward act of obedience- a public proclamation/profession of faith. Like a wedding ring doesn’t marry you- it’s a *symbol* of marriage. Because if you take off the wedding ring, you are still married. The thief on the cross was not baptized. There was no time once he believed upon Jesus after meeting Him in person hanging on the cross.@@johanneshartman4618
I grew up a Keith fan and I’ve always had questions. Thank you for answering them.
I just went from a Dan Gryder video to this one. The 1 common theme between you 2 is "NOSE DOWN" when you loose an engine or in this case can't get the 414 in a safe flying attitude! You and Dan are saving lives! Thanks for the video.
l was in Wichita KS a few years back at the Cessna delivery center. An air traffic controller- commercial pilot was ferrying a king air 200 down south somewhere .So he loses his left engine right after takeoff, doesn't even get the gear up and and does a wingover and crashes straight down into the flight safety building near the airport and kills a few pilots and instructors who were training in a simulator on the second floor .The right engine was still at full power when he augers in and the left prop was never feathered. It was just a tragic incident .lmagine being in that simulator, you just can't even imagine getting crushed by a king air in a while flying a simulator at flight safety. I think he had plenty of room to ethier set the aircraft back down on the runway ,maybe gone off the end into the grass at the most .But this airplane would have climbed away on just the right engine just fine for the go around too.l think he just froze or something
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I loved Kieth's music . I have wondered for years what happened . I'm a private pilot , Love what you guys do and know I know your a brother in the lord . God bless you for the content you guys share . Always informative . Maranatha
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What an awesome tutorial video. Not only did I learn a lot about the importance to flying, but Keith Green was and still is my favorite artist. Thanks for doing this video about that tragic day. What an eye-opener. God bless❤
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I was about to turn 12 when Keith, Bethany and Josiah died that day. Oh how I cried. Keith’s music was so raw and so honest. “Oh I can’t wait to get to Heaven, when you wipe away all my tears…”. He got his hope so much sooner than anticipated but that kept us all going. That hope. Thanks for the lesson on flying and for helping me remember Keith today. Great video.
I remember that event and was a Keith Green fan. I am also a private pilot and always wondered the details of what went wrong; thanks for this info, you have filled in the gaps.
You’re welcome.
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This story broke my heart. Those children were just starting life. The one statement that sticks in my mind from 30 years ago is:: AVIATION CAN BE EXTREMELY UNFORGIVING. So true.
God bless to the 12 people who were lost. R.I.P.
They are in the happiest most fulfilling place ever.
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I believe you are referring to a very famous quote from the history of Aviation----"Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But, to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect"...that pretty much sums it up!
God bless you for this video. Last Days Ministries put out some unbelievable publications in my early years - sound-mixing for Christian bands in Australia.
Thank you Dan for doing this one. Keith has had a big impact on my life as a Worship pastor. I’m starting my flight training coming up in March with plans to eventually do work in missions. Remembering not to sleep in His light!
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Great video Dan. Ive got so much out of this as a new pilot. I appreciate making yourself vulnerable to help make your point about ego and people pleasing. And thankyou for sharing some of your testimony as a Christian. Best quarter hour Ive spent in a long time.
Thanks David, I’m very humbled by your comment.
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I was managing editor of a small daily newspaper in Alabama when Keith Green's plane went down, so I saw the story come through on the AP wire that morning. It really shook me. Even though he wasn't that important to most of the people around me, I got a small wire story about his death into the paper that day. I had seen him in concert in Birmingham shortly before his death. Few deaths have shaken me in the moment as much as his did that day.
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Thank you Dan for this great video, even as you and me too still are grieving this huge loss. Thanking God for this brother as his legacy lives on and can bless us still today
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I remember so well, I was in music back in the day. He set the standard, he made so many people in the industry angry when he came against charging, he didn't even want to charge for concerts! What a heart he had. It was about the ministry.
It was about the ministry. Amen!
Rest In Peace Keith Green I hope you’ve lived in these times
Thank you Dan....this has helped me a great deal. Keith is still my No.1 when it comes to spirit filled music. Often wonder what would have been if he wouldn't have died.
Definitely spirit filled music. He was the real deal
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Thank you for this. I am a former USAF aircraft loader and weight and balance is vitally important for safety. Most aircraft will fly safely overweight as long as you do not lose an engine. Out of CG limits is a killer.
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Any thoughts or comments on the (C17?) a few years ago in Afghanistan I believe? There was footage and it seemed like it just struggled, despite its massive power, and just had some sort of catastrophic load shift or something bizarre, it seemed to just roll and dive immediately after takeoff ...another aft center of gravity / balance issue? What heavy load / vehicles were on the load manifest? Just curious, that footage just really creeped me out.
@@bravovictor1922 cargo 747- armored vehicle or tank broke loose from its tie-downs in back of AC and rolled aft causing a massive CG shift just after takeoff. Not much the pilots could have done to avoid an impact of any sort.
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I was so shocked when I stumbled across this video. I had no idea that Keith had passed away. I met Keith briefly at an evening church service in Auburn, Calif. I stood at the piano talking to Keith and he played the piano for me. If memory serves, this would have been in the late 70s when I was in high school. I remember Keith being very anointed by the Holy Spirit as he spoke and when he played the piano. He touched my spirit as a young man, and I only met and spoke to him for the briefest period of time.
Yes. I was so deeply moved by his music. Thank you for this.
Thanks for this information! I loved Keith Green's music in the early 80's and was shocked to hear about this tragedy. I am also a private pilot and did my own unwise aft CG flight...4 adults (2 who were heavy) in a C-172, also on a hot summer day in Texas. The scariest part was landing, and I vowed to myself to never do that again! Yes, we as pilots must not give in to anyone we want to please, if it puts all of our lives in danger!
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I remember this happening. Sad day for sure.
This report is very concise and to the point. Thank you, and yes I loved Keith Green's music as well and was in shock after he died being a young man in Christ who just became acquainted with his Holy Ghost inspired music of life!
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I had just walked into my youth ministry class at Luther Rice seminary, I was putting my books on the desk when I heard over our classroom radio the announcement that Keith’s plane had crashed. I was a very young Christian, and he had made a huge impact on my life. I was devastated.
I remember this during my "hayday". I listened to all kinds of Christian music, and Keith Green was one of my favorite artists. It was indeed a sad day (more than a day) that could have gone differently had anyone "spoken up". I hope we can all learn from this. BTW, I appreciate your candor in this video.
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The plane crash hit me hard too. I always heard the plane was overweight but hearing your full breakdown sheds so much light on how this horrible event happened. Thank you for your insight.
Thanks Steve.
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Thank you Dan. It’s really difficult to review events like Keith’s accident and provide thorough and thoughtful analysis. I was an hour away when this happened. We owned a Grumman Tiger based at Longview at the time. I was heartbroken and remember how everyone speculated about overweight issues. Love Melody’s testimony and their ministry that continues today. Will Always miss Keith. Thanks again 🙏
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I was flying out of Orange County Airport at the time, just learning as a teenager. Now I teach at an A&P school and show lots of crash videos for lessons. That's probably why this came up on my feed. I've heard rumors over the years and always wondered about that crash. Thank you for parsing it out.
I love Keith's music, though I didn't even become a Christian until after he died. God bless Melody for keeping on so majestically!
Thank you for sharing this. I have always loved his music and style. I am a 80's child but born in the 70's. That style still appeals to be today. It was so simple and pure. I always wondered what had happened and you helped to bring closure to that mystery for me. You know as Christians we often ask, "Why did God allow it?" Forgetting that God doesn't correct every human error we make, he just leaves lessons to learn. God bless and safe flying!
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@@johanneshartman4618 I agree!
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@johanneshartman4618 I already have a long time ago. It is not I who lives but Christ in me. Thank you.
I loved and still love Keith Green’s Music. It was the draw card to my class room during lunch break for many High school students. 1976-79.
I recall exactly where I was in 1982 - SINGAPORE- when I got the news but refused to believe it for several days
Interestingly Aircraft Manuals refer to the Weight and Balance Sheet as the TRIM Sheet. This concept immediately brings control of the aircraft to the fore! I remember once departing TBPB on a DHC6 I asked a heavy set older couple to move forward 2 rows, he being an old sailor broke into a smile and said "you trimming the plane". I'll never forget these words!
Spread the word "Trim the Plane"
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Great video. I grew up listening to Kieth Green. I’d put on headphones, close my eyes, and get lost in the music.
We’ll see him again some day. 🙏🏼
Dan, thank you for posting this video! Keith’s crash was a huge blow to my day when it happened. I worshipped using his music and songs and loved his zeal for the Lord. And it was incredible how he decided to give away his albums and let the Lord take care of him. I was working out at the gym in Tulsa when I overheard two guys, I didn’t know, talking about the crash. I stopped and went over to them and asked them and they confirmed it was Keith Green. I’m still saddened and shocked all these years later. The Lord had a reason, and I trust Him for whatever that was. I’ve always wanted to know more detail about what happened. God orchestrated your video and gave you the right words. Sidenote: one of the guys I overheard talking about the crash that day in the gym ended up being the singer, Carmen! I hadn’t heard of him yet, but started listening to his music right after that. Very well done video and compassionate for Keith’s family! I didn’t know Keith personally, but his loss was almost like losing a close family member and I’ll never forget it.
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for sharing.
Carmen is now with Keith up in heaven..... exchanging song ideas I'm sure.... lol.
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Great Video. Yep, Wednesday night youth service is when I learned about the Keith Green plane crash. Now I am a retired King Air 200 pilot and your comments about pressure to fly are spot-on. Fortunately I flew for the Govt. and had less pressure to fly in bad conditions.
Thank you for sharing. I listened to all of Keith Greens music as well. God Bless.
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Some years after the crash, another ministry called Teen Mania Ministries bought this land from LDM. We put on large youth rallies and had 3 tractor trailers to haul our equipment around. I learned how to back a truck on that old airstrip. I also have 30 hours student pilot training, so this was a great video to watch... For the analysis and the old pictures of the property! Thank you.
When were you there? My wife Kelly ran lights and sound on tour, and was part of the Honor Academy...
Thank you for making this video! Keith's testimony, boldness and music is such a blessing for me!
You bet!
Just adding my thanks to so many others for this clear and compassionate explanation of what happened that day. Keith's death took a while for me to work through in my late 20's and I am still a huge fan, playing and singing his music when I worship our LORD!
Dan, just found this video after watching another about Keith's life. Amazing after all these years the profound impact this accident has on me. I'd like to commend you on the very professional yet heartfelt manner that you presented yourself and these tragic facts. As a fellow believer we certainly know that it's not "good-bye forever, but, it's "until we meet again". Blessings
Thanks Gary.
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I too was, am a big fan of Keith Green and his music. I had never seen an in depth description of that horrific crash until now. Although your video brought back sad memories, it was instructive to any pilot and greatly appreciated. I agree that most of us have at least been tempted to push the limits of our skills or of our aircraft’s capabilities. For that reason, reminders of tragic mistakes are always good. In spite of my solid belief in God’s sovereignty, it remains our responsibility to keep ourselves and our passengers as safe as humanly possible. Thanks for your humble words of wisdom!
Well put George.
@@TakingOff I went to last Keith Green concert before he died!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These principles of humility can apply to all of us Christians.
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Wow. Thanks for doing this. Kieth had really touched my life with his music, and losing him hurt. I never new the details about the crash until now. Stay faithful, brother.
Thanks
Thanks for your video. I too loved Keith Green
Thank you for the scripture and the very thoughtful analysis.
Tragic story. Thanks for telling the story. Kieth Green died around the time that I was born, but I’ve been listening to him since I was a kid. He had a powerful presentation of the gospel.
“Superior judgment trumps superior skills”. I’ll try and apply that in my piloting.
I still play our brother Keith's songs... He loved Jesus. Thanks for sharing. ❤
Dan, thanks for this. I remember Keith's music and loved it. Thank you for putting your Christianity out there in a time when it isn't the "politically correct" thing to do.
Thanks Alan.
Being a Christian was completely politically correct until 80% of evangelicals fell for Donald Trump.
@James Gideon He was talking about Christianity not being politically correct and I explained why that is so. Do you disagree?
@@kerrynight3271 um, true Christianity has never been politically correct. Never.
@@chadparsons50 Um?
I remember vividly picking up the phone and getting a call from my boyfriend at the time telling me that our favorite artist-Keith Green, had just been killed in a plane accident. We had planned to go to his concert together in Portland, Or-instead a few months later we went to his memorial concert hosted by his wife. It was there at that concert that I surrendered my life to Christ and was called to ministry. In all my years since I have never seen one anointed like Keith. His music was simple, and powerful. I still listen to his music and I often sing his rendition of Psalm 23 when I need to be reminded that God is in control.
I was blessed to see him in Anaheim during high school. I loved his music and was playing piano in several bands at the time. A fellow musician and Christian introduced me to him. He made such an impact on my life and am forever grateful.
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I am 79 years on earth and I recall loving his music. That was a challenging period of time. There were several new voices making us to think of tough things, new challenges. I was 15 years in what we called, "Home Missions," and I didn't have a lot of time for news, so I missed out on that tragic accident that claimed his live. Your memory, your music will live a long long time challenging and inspiring a new generation. RIP
I remember that I was at home. It was summer, and I remember hearing the news that Keith had passed away in a plane crash. I was about 15 years old and was always listening to Keith Green's music all the time. I remember being devastated! I still miss him. God bless his memory and his family. At least we know we'll see him again! Maranatha!
I am about your age and remember this day vividly. As a Christian, it was devastating news. Being a musician like Keith, and also being a pilot, I learned that God does protect us. But we also have to use common sense in our daily lives. Thanks for sharing this!! God bless you!!
Thanks for the comment!
I’d like to more about this “protection” God provides. Like the protection He gave Steven Curtis Chapman’s five year old daughter, who was run over by a vehicle and killed?
Where is the “protection” that you are imagining? Christians get sick and die all the time. They get killed in accidents all the time. Their children get sick and die.
And Christians are still dying because of their faith.
One woman claimed Jesus personally pulled her blanket up to keep her warm. Really?
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Thanks again for your usual comprehensive report! I think that the only thing better than learning by personally experiencing is through venues like yours! Included in my CFIs ALWAYS list was Wt. and Bal. every single flight! Unfortunately along with check lists , some people become complacent. The biggest tragedy is that one person's lack of experience and or judgement cost the lives of others! Ours is an unforgiving avocation. Thanks again and Blue Skies!
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I absolutely loved (and still love) Keith Green's music; still have his vinyl albums. I received the Last Days Ministries letter describing the tragic loss of Keith and his two children, and the others on board. I was driving home from work, was in a bumper to bumper traffic jam, opened the letter and read it, was shocked to my core. Sobbed all the way home, spent the evening in prayer. What a terrible loss. But....I will meet Keith someday!! Praise God for his life and testimony.
Thanks for all the time and effort that you put in to these videos. I learn a lot from watching your and others channels on aviation especially the crash videos. Thanks again.
Appreciate it Paul.
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That day in July 1982 hit me hard as a Follower of Keith & LDM, being Born Again in 1976 many of Keiths songs were MY WORSHIP songs TO Jesus, getting involved with a VERY conservative church my actual Worship was with Keiths music at night, outside UNDER the stars singing with Keith ( on cassette ) on my knees hands lifted to the sky, I sang many of his songs THOUSANDS of times, those early days of direct worship carried me through till I gained some DEEP ROOTS in the word. Thank You Brother Keith, & Thank you Jesus for Keiths short time with us here on this planet !
A co-worker gave me a copy of the Last Days Magazine and the article by Keith "Will you be bored in heaven" Made me contemplate my lukewarm Christianity. In 1983 I attended a Christian musical event where Melodie spoke, the only thing I remember about her talk was she said " we need mechanics" (at last days ministries) I was a mechanic and at the time was working in another field. Long story short I ended up a few years later going down to Texas and spent about 6 months at LDM . Keith Green's music still moves me to this day. I am thankful for my experience with LDM. Thanks !!
Thanks for sharing John.
Excellent video! I honestly don't think anyone could have shared these details as well as someone like yourself, one personally impacted by Keith.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you for a very interesting video. I discovered Keiths’ music decades later as I was too young in -82, but I’ve always been fascinated with his life story and this added to my understanding of it. ”There, but for the grace of God…” -How true, we can only hope and trust.
Keith Green was a true inspiration to me too, and along with the John Denver plane crash, who was another inspirer, we can learn more about the physics, when it comes to safety in aviation. This is a great presentation, my wife's brother is a very experienced pilot, and there have been stories, where he has flown in challenging situations. Lesson from all this, is that human life comes first, and knowledge to reduce as many risks as possible, should be adhered to.
Some have thought maybe John Denver was a suicide. But, I can’t see it. He was careless though and ran out of fuel.
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I wasn’t a Christian when this happened. I got saved in 1987 and bought my first Keith Green cassette tapes 1988/89. Love his music. ❤
I still listen to Keith's music to this day.
I watch the music videos on RUclips .
I am drawn closer to Jesus and blessed beyond measure.
Can't wait to meet him in our Fathers Kingdom🙏💕
Great story my Dad was a small Airport Manager for 25 years and flew Cessna 's for years. We had one airplane crash one morning cloudy, foggy, cold not good weather. The pilot didn't use his instruments my Dad shared with me he got confused and crashed right into the ground north of the Airport. It really impacted my Dad learn from other people's tragic decisions.
Nice work. Thanks.
In the grander scheme, I've often wondered why O Sovereign Lord allowed this to happen. Keith also had a profound impact on me in those years. A few months ago a teen sang one of his songs in our church. Very powerful music; brings back recollections of his earnest faith; admirable.
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I grew up listening to my Dad’s Keith Green albums. It’s sad he was taken so soon. Thanks for the video!
This was very interesting. I’m not a pilot but I am a Christian. I’ve seen a documentary about Keith Green and love his music. Thanks for posting this!
Thank you for the excellent analysis. That day rocked my world - I was a Keith Green junkie. Really appreciate the way you presented this.
Thanks Debbie.
That last bit in the "findings" just breaks my heart at least now they are comforted.
On my second flight lesson (I'm still currently training) I performed a soft field takeoff in a Cessna 172. During the takeoff roll my instructor said when the plane started to fly to push the nose down and fly about 15 feet off the ground to ride the ground effect, and I thought that was crazy! But after explanation it made a lot of sense, and to see it in this video reminds me of it, excellent lesson to take away.
Thanks Jeffrey. Let us know how your training goes!
Interestingly the graph in the video shows the AOA of the stall is lower IGE(In Ground Effect) than OGE which makes sense to keep the nose low to accelerate IGE!
Well the actual AOA may be the same because just as in the freestream at higher AOA the stagnation point moves aft below the LE(Leading Edge), IGE the stagnation moves aft under the LE which may produce a more vertical component(upwash) to the airflow at the LE, causing the Wing to 'think' its at a higher AOA
Great video, thanks for the analysis! I think you are spot on. You delivered with humility and kindness.
Thank you. I'm almost ready to take the written for private pilot. The last 2 days I've been learning weight and balance. The material I have (on-line school) wasn't getting it through my thick skull. Tried reading chapter 2 of FAA's Weight and Balance book. The diagrams changed (I think 2-11 & 2-13), which was confusing until I figured out the error, but the words were Greek after that. A quick RUclips search and I found a video that explained it well and got it to click for me.
Your video drives home the point that we shouldn't just learn it for the test, but to apply the information before and during flight so its not the last thing we do.
Thanks Jeff. Hope the written goes well.
I’ve pastored and helped to plant churches in Kenya and Mexico City… to this day, Keith Green was the initial inspiration after my salvation; 5 years after his passing ( 1987)! I went from Ozzy to Keith in my new birth! Great video brother 🙌🏻
Outstanding explanation and content.
Tks for another one Dan! I remember that the first exercise my CFI made me do was work out a weight and balance problem for the 152 we were flying, always stuck in my mind.
Keith Green was like a lot of Christians I have known and admired - no compromise (sound familiar?)! The force of his absolute commitment is something hard to argue with. But it was the job of the pilot to do so. I have always been frustrated by the loss of someone so early in such a wonderful ministry. My kids grew up listening to Keith Green and I've been in several groups (bluegrass) that adapted some of his songs. I wish we had someone like him now to inspire young people and keep us all committed! To be the pilot for someone like that requires a will and forceful personality, too. No shrinking violets need apply!
I do indeed remember where I was when I heard the news. Thanks for the thoughtful analysis.