U.S. Army 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions - What’s the Difference?
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The 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions are some of the most recognizable U.S. Army units. While they may share similar names, do you know the difference between the 82nd and 101st Army Airborne Divisions?
The 82nd and 101st both have extensive histories behind them, and have been involved in several major U.S. conflicts. These divisions are both airborne infantry divisions, but they do have some differences between them.
If you want to know more about the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions, their similarities, differences, missions, training, and much more, watch this video!
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How about the 101st Airborne Division vs the 1st Air Cav Division
I was in the 2nd and 504th PIR. T.O.W. Gunner.
A company 2/325 82nd.
Hey General Discharge, I just wanted to tell you that the 82nd Airborne Division and US Army Rangers are the only two groups who are prepared for war in 18 hours vs. 36 hours. Keep up the fantastic job. Salute.
Served in both 101st and 82d, both are great divisions and would encourage any young soldier to be all you can be. Airborne all the way
Same here. 82nd Stateside and 101st in Nam. Great outfits.
How about Canadians looking to switch over to an American unit( not picky on what one)
💯🤔 when I joined the Army I tried to be all I can be😮But all they would let me be was a wheel mechanic 😂
AIR ASSAULT 👍🏼
@@ImKablesget an American citizenship. Or just go for 3VP
3RCR or the Vandoos 3rd battalion?
I also served with both, with a tour to Korea in between..
I spent six years in the 82nd airborne infantry. Best job i ever had. 2003-2009. during that time the war was definitely on. God bless the paratroopers that didn't come home.
Thanks bro ...nuff said
why you left?
I'm one of the early cats too, 01-07, 3 in Iraq 03-07. The 82nd is just different. Operated with so many others. Those with their wings, just better, as we should be!
03-11 82d infatry
@@FondyCrew🤙 01-07 Bco 3/75
101st infantry here. Like 3 days into landing at KAF, I ran into an 82nd guy on his way home. To say he looked defeated was an understatement. He told me a bit about his deployment and about some friends he lost. I just felt sorry for the fella. I wish I would have gotten his full name. He really seemed like he needed someone to talk to. Hope he is well, where ever he is today.
I served in both units. I was Airborne and Air Assault qualified. Started at Fort Liberty, formerly known as Fort Bragg. Then, six years later, I was at Fort Campbell. I was tasked with supporting The Sabaloski Air Assault School and Pathfinder School for both Airborne and Air Assault operations.
Airborne All The Way
It’s still fort bragg for this paratrooper
Yes the Pathfinder course began back in 2004 @ Campbell. (Missed attending by a year!) Since I departed a year earlier...
It'll always be Ft Bragg. Forget this woke garbage
@@kevintombs6267 Damn right. Anyone referring to it any other way is not a paratrooper.
@@silntstl Exactly!! "Strike Hold" brother!
I searved from 1983 to 1986 in the 82nd. I absolutely loved it. And back then it was 18 hours deployment to anywhere in the world knees in the breeze not 36. Also we did quite a bit of air mobiles and huge amounts of urban warfare training. And replelling.
Salute dude
You got there right after I left! 3/325 here, bro.
One BN is rotated through the 18 hour global response for about a month at a time. 36 hours is the rest of the Brigade.
@@bostonmike5981 it was DRF when I was there.
@@msaret4384I miss my time being a Blue Falcon!
82 was first airborne division but the first airborne unit was actually 1-501 PiR which is a airborne infantry battalion that was in the 101st during ww2 and Vietnam then was in 4/25 during the GWOT. And now has been redesignated and is now under the 11th airborne division
1st 600 mile parachute drop November 3, 1942 Airborne Assault led by Colonel Edson.
Band of brothers
B 3/187 inf (rakkasans) , 1st platoon , 3rd squad leader...very BRAVE MEN..proud to have the 101st AIRBORNE patch on my RIGHT shoulder... Michael, out.
3rd BCT (Rakkasan), 101st ABN (Air Assault). Best damn unit I was a part of. Was also the most deployed unit in the United States Army as they regularly were deployed every other year. From what I have seen, the 101st is the most adaptable. Not only do we learn sling load operations but also learn how to conduct LCLA drops to ensure material gets to the units to conduct operations.
Sure, the 82nd can put 18,000 or more troops anywhere in the world in 18 hours. Which is awesome. The 101st though can and has routinely been able to deploy and sustain itself for long durations without any other portion of the big army logistics. We essentially learned to rely on ourselves to ensure continuous operations 24/7/365. We also have learned to do more with less.
Personally, both fit a niche. The 82nd can quickly obtain ground and aggressively engage the enemy. The ground obtained by the 82nd can then be used by the 101st Airborne to augment the 82nd, provide air support, and continue logistical operations in combination with the 82nd. Both used in conjunction can royally screw up an enemy.
Bro thanks ...nuff said
Respect, but 75th Ranger Regiment holds the title for most deployed. They were deployed on a constant rotation from OCT2001 until just recently.
@@GiveWarAChance375, Well I stand corrected then. I always figured that the 75th Ranger Regiment considered itself more a part of the Special Operations community more than the regular Army. After all, most of the SF Units would pull from the Ranger Battalions more so than the regular Infantry units. Glad to know that a Ranger sees himself on the same level as the rest of us. It is refreshing as most in Second Batt tended to see themselves as more elite than most of us regular soldiers.
As such, I believe I was talking about regular Army Units and not units such as the Rangers, Special Forces Groups or CAG. I would expect them to deploy far more than regular Brigades as they can do so far quicker (less logistics to work out as the Battalions within the Regiment tend to deploy and not altogether like Brigades tend to do). However, respect on being the most deployed. Hopefully that OPTEMPO will decrease. Especially now, seeing as what the Army is fast becoming. Kind of glad I left in 2015 as I would likely be booted now or at least be in far more trouble. Have a good evening sir.
@@williamfoote1609 there is a massive difference in the 75th Ranger Regiment and the regular army. They are absolutely a part of SOCOM. The old saying “you’re only as strong as your weakest private rings true and that’s generally what I’ve seen set them apart from the big army. Every unit has standards, but few enforce them like the 75th. When every guy you’re around is fighting to remain in Bat, you’ll find far less of the bs that you’ll find in the big army.
Sorry to hear about having some bad run ins with 2/75 guys, but it boils down to the fact that Rangers are higher on the tier list than either the 101st or 82nd. Having served in the 75th and 101st myself, I can for sure say there is a major difference and those in the 75th have every right to be proud of themselves, they just don’t need to be assholes about it.
As far as regular army, I do believe you’re correct about the 101st having the most deployments.
@@GiveWarAChance375, I figured that the 75th was part of SOCOM. I work with a former Army Ranger that went to Special Forces (not sure which group except the one group he ended up with at the end of his career as a CSM for the 19th Special Operations Group). I do know he was friends with and was with SSGT. Volk during the Ash Street incident. Which leads me to believe he was likely part of 2/75 at one time.
As far as standards being set, I completely agree. I unfortunately, came into 3rd BCT right at the end of Colonel Steele being Battalion Commander. I can say, he was hard and had high standards for every soldier regardless of rank or MOS. Which is why I believe we ended up being the most deployed out of the 101st. As any mission set before us had always been completed.
No, I can handle 2/75th guys acting like pretentious people. They are in a way correct as they did earn their spot to be there. I also believe that in doing so they did prove that they were better. I found the “bad” interactions to be good as it spurred me on to continue to be better at everything I did. To not take the easy way out and give up. Eventually hoping to show that I was just as good as they were at some point. Though, I decided to get out when I realized the discipline standards of some of the Privates coming in were not exactly conducive to good order and discipline. Fancy way of saying that the Privates were likely to get me and others killed. Especially when I had one flat out tell me no when conducting a layout.
The 101st hasn't been jump-qualified since 1975. When the 1st Cav Div came back from Vietnam, it took over the assets of the 4th Armored Division which was deactivated (for a time in the late 1970s, it was classified as "Tri-capable", having an armored, a mechanized and an air assault brigade. The experiment was ended in the early 1980s and the 1st Cav Div became a heavy armored division under Division 86 and Army of Excellence). The assets of the former 1st Cav Div were re-flagged as the 101st Abn Div (Air Asslt). The 101st Abn Div assets when they came back from Vietnam were re-distributed across the Army as it "right sized" under the All Volunteer Force (AVF). 1-17 CAV (Air) (Abn) 1983-84.
It was AIRMOBILE before it was Air Assault.
101st at Ft. Campbell during the height of the Cold War. Air Assault School was completed upon arrival right out of Basic and AIT. The Screaming Eagle is still my favorite patch, and the 101st was a source of many great memories for me!
Love this video unit/division comparison. I’d like to see more like this between other army and marine divisions. Missions, training, selection and such. Most conventional units don’t as much love as they should.
Served with the 101st and was deployed for Operation Desert Shield/Storm. I was actually in one of the few jump units still at Ft Campbell with the 53rd QM Det (Airborne Riggers). Regretfully my deployment to the Gulf got me a case of Gulf War Syndrome that I still deal with to this day. While I loved the 101st and Ft Campbell my experience in dealing with the VA after my exposure has soured me to recommending military service to others.
My dad was in the 101st during dessert storm as well. Thankyou for your service?
You yanks have some of the most amazing looking courses and training available, would love to come over and do some of that Training then bring it back to the Australian army, sadly opportunities like that dont come up very often
America has the huge money and budget for training compared to everyone else lol.
I got out in 1979. After I got out my roommate in Special Forces spent a summer in Perth HALOing with what he described as an SAS unit.
Served with the 101st Sustainment Brigade in one of their tenant units. My time at Fort Campbell was one of the best assignments I’ve had in the military. I loved Air Assault school and being able to jump out of helicopters, those were always great.
What did you do in the sustainment brigade? I’m thinking about joining the army and going to the 101st
@@rainman4953 I was an MP with the 716th MP Battalion.
@@bronxbomber370is it hard becoming a 101st ?
@@moralesxavier777 No, it’s not too hard.
I mean there are some really tough days and events at Air Assault School, but if you apply yourself by training and being physically fit, and pay close attention to detail, you can make it.
Then that opens the door to other training courses, such as Rappel Master, SPIES AND FRIES , and Pathfinder.
being in both Divisions as a grunt.. 82d is more agressive and bold, 101st is more lai back, conservative in fighting and Deliberate in operations.. both very good units, what makes them great on battlefield is the desired effect and temperment for the Commander to use against th enemy. 🤓👨✈️
Bro ..bro ..served in both that's bad azz right there ...hey man thanks for defending me and millions like me who never served ..I hope life brings you lots of joy dude ...THANKS
Friend of mine was Airborne. He said the scariest part of training was jump week, but not jumping. He said the plane was an ancient rattletrap that shook so bad they couldn’t wait to jump.
Lol part of me thinks that’s intentional so ppl are eager to get the fuck out of the plane 😂
Was at 82nd and 101st, airborne and air assault qualified. Out of my 20 years in the army, the absolute best time I ever had was at Fort Campbell KY. There was just something unique about the way that division was. No matter what unit you were in, MOS you had or duty position, we were all part of the division on one team, at least it felt that way. Was in 3/502 2nd Brigade ( reflagged to 1-75 CAV in 05) from the end of 03 till 09 and it really was my best years in! 82nd was squared away, but just didnt compare in esprit de corp.
"THE" Air Assault School
I had the honor to serve with the humblest and bravest men I’ve ever known in 101st 1BCT 1-32 Recon Squadron in Iraq in 2008. And my best friend was 82nd which was the tip of the spear into Fallujah. Despite the trials we’ve endured after leaving the service, there is an immense sense of pride that we carry for having the honor to have served with these Divisions as Infantryman and Scouts.
Great video man, and you should take a deep dive on the history of these two units, because we’re trained to be humble. We weren’t tabbed out but we served with the only 2 Army Divisions that are Rapid deployment with in 36 hours at all times. Before the Marines… Got love for them boys but people should know their facts.
My little brother was in the 101 Airborne.
My old man was in both in Vietnam 67-68. My son is a Vet of the 101st. Proud of these men.
Never forget 82nd already had 2 combat jumps in ww2 before 101st even had their first. In total the 82nd has 5 and 101st has 2. 82nd has much more combat experience history to this day.
the 82nd is an Airborne Divion. the 101st is an infantry division with some extra helicopters.
Yes i served in both.
Facts
used to, not anymore
@Big-bob560
Extra is an understatement
Yeah, a LOT of extra helicopters!
I served in the 101st 2/502nd 11B. My brother was 82nd. Nothing but respect for the 82nd 🫡
502nd is the black heart brigade, right?
It is.
The answer is 19.
Wild
Lmao😂
Served in both. Loved my time in both. I personally feel I got to do more air assault than airborne operations but I think that was just timing of when I was where.
Getting stationed with either is an almost guaranteed slot in the schools to get your wings but prepare because it is tough.
Lets not forget the glider battalions which were also airborne
you dont have to go to AAS to be in the 101st, its typically something expected of you once you arrive. ive known plenty of people who spent their whole time at Campbell in the 101st and never went to AAS.
Same for soldiers stationed @ Ft. Benning who aren't assigned to the 75th or 507th. If assigned to one of miscellaneous support units on post, you can apply to attend the course. Its just down the street & no cost to the unit.
Yep, one of my best friends spent three years there and never went.
@run_lift_communicate to each their own. Some soldiers have no interest in attending these courses. I think no less of them, carry on, hooah!
Not if you're in one of the infantry regiments.
@@jamescaliendo1030 spent three years there in an infantry unit, wasnt required to GO there. was more a "it would behoove you" sort of thing to get it as soon as possible. but not required to be IN the unit.
1-505 PIR, 3BCT, 82nd.
But I had great leaders from 101st. Had a team leader and squad leader who came from 101st and they were outstanding leaders.
Also had a CO and 1st SGT prior service Marine Corp, force recon, and they were absolute beasts that I would follow to any war. That was in my first mech unit 1/15th IN.
There’s a feature of the 101st that you missed. The instant Morale Boost Button. When hitting this button, the song, “Screaming Eagles” by Sabaton will play, in which you will feel the power of your WWII 101st Ancestors, and thus morale skyrockets. 🦅
As a Canadian Army Artillery, I went on a six weeks exchange unit at Fort Cambel 101 Air assault.we performed the trainig followed by an exercise while our U.S. counterparts trainned in Valcartier for winter warfare training at -40F .It was avery interesting experience for both units.
I served with the 82nd Airborne from 99-02. Sadly my unit is no longer in the unit but is still with the 18th Airborne Corp. There isn’t a day I don’t think about putting on that parachute and jumping.
I served in the 3/320th field artillery attached to the 1/187th infantry (13F forward observer).
HooAH! 👍🇺🇸🦅
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Served 72 to 75 82nd C -1/320 FA. Jumped T-10 and MC1-1 experimental. Use to hang out at the drop zone bar for my daily beer and eye candy. Great times! Stage 4 call 73 pope Air field yum kippur war but didn't deploy, sat on tarmac for a week until the stand down order.
AIRBORNE / ALL THE WAY
Good video. I think another way to think about it is if anyone else is confused the 82nd is similar to like a MEU is to the marine corps . They ( 82nd) can deploy a battalion of paratroopers within 18hrs of notif . They're called the IRF ( I Think is the current acronym) or QRF of the army.
Yeah, but the important point is that they're not Marines. Semper fi.
@@billc.4584 lol 😆 yeah Marines who join the army say that the 82nd is very competent and very similar to the corps unlike the rest of the army.
@@markanthonypar-wise1499 Nothin' but love brother but you know what I'm feeling if you're Airborne. Yeah, you and Rangers are pretty tough; Delta are cocky assholes. :P Be well. Peace.
Airborne Infantry is more elite than marines! Not even close! Sorry, that is the truth!
"I think another way to think about it is if anyone else is confused the 82nd is similar to like a MEU is to the marine corps""
Don't think, find out, instead. The QRF for the Army is tasked to the "Light Infantry " elements of the United States Army and rotates and between it's subordinate units. How do you think the 82nd gets other cycles for training and rest/refit? Did you think they did QRF solely by themselves? LOL
It's tasked to the 3 Divisions of the 101st, 82nd and 10th Mtn. It rotates through the 9 brigades of those three divisions with a different battalion of each brigade being in the hot-seat until it has rotated through all 27 battalions of all 9 brigades. A battalion may be 'skipped' and another selected due to deployed status or any other situation that affects their 'Combat Readiness' status.
The 10th Mtn., 101st and 82nd are interchangeable in the combat tasking roles with older, outdated concepts being slowly pushed out the door (like having an Airborne Division). These concepts are being changed in favor of the 'Modular Brigade' concept.
Which is a good thing. When was the last time Airborne was required? Airfield takedowns are pretty much a thing of the past and only a 'thing' because of older officers still on staff. The new concepts will slowly push for a more modern and effective fighting brigade.
As seen in the deployment of Desert Shield: The 101st was QRF during August 1990 and it was tasked to B co. 3/502nd 101st and were the first Infantry deployed in country. Airmobile units and lift support units played a much bigger role than an Airborne unit that had to ride on the back of French cargo trucks and follow behind everyone else, as the forward units 'Air Assaulted' faster than vehicles could keep up.
16 years with 82nd enjoyed my time with this airborne Division , went to Ranger school, sniper school, LRSC course when assigned with them, Operation Just Cause, three departments to middle east AATW 🪂🪂🪂🪂🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Respect. Which, in your opinion, was "the 10 hardest days in the Army"?
Just Cause vet here too. C Co. 1/504 PIR. AATW bro!
Retired Army CW4 here, served in the 82nd Airborne as an enlisted fire supporter in the 1990’s and in the 101st Airborne as a Blackhawk pilot in the 2010’s.
Fun fact, although Airborne is now colloquially synonymous with parachute units, it was originally implied to include both parachute and glider regiments in WWII. When Airmobile became Air Assault in the 70’s this was taken into account and the Air Assault badge was deliberately designed to resemble the original Glider badge. The implication is that both parachute delivery and helicopter delivery are methods of Airborne Envelopment. So in doctrine if not in language, both can be referred to as Airborne.
I agrée and they should give back fort Campbell the red beret. It was my understanding it was taken from them in the 90’s. If anything it would be a hell of a moral booster and they still wear the tab so I think it’s warranted to wear the red hat.
Fuck no!
I served as an infantryman and an Air Assault School Instructor at the 101st Airborne Division. Good times!🤘🏻
Yeah. I served with 1/501 Infantry in the 101st in 1969 in Vietnam. What was never mentioned here was the basic difference in getting these units into combat. Both utilize aircraft that can be shot down. But the Airborne combat jumps of infantrymen scatter and mix units like crazy. This can be an advantage in that it puts troopers all over the battlefield and they raise holy hell behind enemy lines, disrupting everything. In the 101st, though, small units are delivered in their designed composition. I have never seen a larger assault than a battalion, but I understand a Brigade can be moved. The grunts, together with their leaders, are prepared to go into action as a trained team when they hit the ground. That is a huge advantage. The airborne units can be initially deployed much faster. Thereafter they fight as regular infantry while trying to form small units with leadership. It is a major effort taking days or weeks to pull them out and organize a second jump. Air Assault units are regularly picked up on the field and immediately moved into another assault., and another, etc. Each has its own advantages. You have to trust the leaders to decide correctly which unit to use. Two great units.
Before anyone posts it - yes, I realize that airborne units can be picked up and conduct air assaults after they jump in. But can they be organized into original structure down to squad level without going to the rear to do so/? As an aside, I had an uncle who was KIA on Iwo Jima while he was serving as a Para Marine in C 1/26. Are Marines serving in regular grunt battalions still allowed to go to jump school, or is that reserved for Force Recon, or other SF type marines?
My brother was a second lieutenant at Fort Campbell Kentucky 101st airborne. I was able to visit him down there and see what all they did. It was pretty interesting got to see the F 14 tomcat and the Chinook helicopter ! It was awesome experience. I just wished I would’ve signed up.😊
I served with the 82nd AIRBORNE Division with the 3/319th AFAR (Gun Devils)
I was a 13F in the 3/319 in the 101st back in 1982-84. I heard they relocated but didn't know where
@@amalfi460 Hooah! I was a 13F in C 2/321 when I first got to Division in 85, then we were reflagged as C 3/319 when the Army went regimental in 86. I think the 321 got consolidated in the 101 after that, but not sure. Did get to go to Campbell a couple of times, including a cool MC1-1B/CH-47 blast from 3100' (!!). Hated the heat/humidity in both places, but I think KY was worse than NC. AATW!
2/187th, 101ST ABN RAKKASAN!! 98-00. Healthy rivalry between the 82nd and 101st, but both are deadly divisions on the battlefield. Queens of Battle
I was 2/187 C co. 96-99!
I was 3/187th bravo “battle hard”company 97-00
2/187 Rakkasan Raiders
Great Video as always! As a big fan, I think you guys would do a great job doing videos on some a specific op done by some of the tier one units
101st DSTB 2005-2010 here. Mosul Iraq Oct 2005-Sept 2006, Sharana Afghanistan Feb 2008-May 2009 here. Loved my time in 101 and since nothing else in the rest of my 15yr career ever compared. Actively performed sling loads in Afghanistan and rucked 12miles on avg 2-3 times a year to maintain standards 😎
I served in the 101st Airborne in the mid to late 1980’s. I signed up 11X and after a combined OSUT Basic training and Infantry School, I attended Jump School at Ft Benning. There was a terrible crash and loss of life with the 101st in Gander Newfoundland. I was sent to 101st rather than 82nd. It was a great experience.
Served? Didn’t you voluntarily apply for the job and receive financial compensation like any other job? I don’t hear the plumber or trash collector talking about “I served”. Both are more important than you.
Hillary, is that you? It’s called service, military service. It’s service of something outside yourself. I’m sure you don’t get that from your mom’s basement where you’ve been all your life. I’m sure you really make your family proud. You must be their favorite daughter with that mouth. When you’re ready to come out from behind that anonymity let me know. I’ll give you the opportunity to attempt to say that to my face. I’ll be happy to give you an address where to meet. @@ToxicGamer86454
My friend was in that plane. We were stationed in Fort Bragg, and he decided to go to Air Assault and was sent to Fort Campbell and perished on that plane.
Man, sorry to hear that. @@guillermodvl
@@ToxicGamer86454Says one who couldn't make it through MEPS. A simple "Thank you" would suffice.
When I was in the Special Forces training Group, the 82D Airborne Division, the, "All American Division," was referred to as Assholes Back to Back," because of the double capital, "A," on their unit patch.
After two trips to Vietnam with A/2/503/173 Airborne Brigade, I was stationed with Troop B 1/17th Cavalry 82D Airborne Division followed by a year in A/1/69th Armor 82D Airborne Division then to the USAREC. By then I'd had enough and got out.
When I was there we were known as the All Alcoholics or Alcoholics Anonymous. After a training exercise the Brit Paras referred to us a the worlds most in shape alcoholics.
@@silntstl don't forget "Athletic Alcoholics"
I believe the 17th CAV is no more.
As a veteran that spent his time on ole Fort. Bragg 82nd is bad ass. I was 27th engineer c company and was a paratrooper myself..
Served 72 to 75 with the 82nd C-1/320FA.
I serve at the 101st airborne during Desert Storm. Both units and training have there purpose, but I will say that because 82 could not maintain their jump status prior to the ground offensive per their own regulations they were forced on become nothing more than a “leg unit” and walk in behind the French. Meanwhile the 101st executed the longest air assault mission in history.
I remember all the 101st guys in Grenada in 1983, and Panama 1989. Oh that's right, I never saw a single one. I also remember training in Alaska with SF, Rangers and 101st. The mountains were tough, but the at least the 101st guys always gave us a chance to take a break, as we would wait for them to catch up. Just stating the facts. But maybe the 101st wasn't up to par in the mid 80's?
I am honored to have worn both division patches. They are both the tip of the American spear!
1/187th Served Proudly! Rakkasan!
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My uncle retired a few years ago as a Lt. Colonel after spending a couple decades with the 82nd Airborne. I always looked up to him as a cross between Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rambo, and Indiana Jones, built like a brick sh1thouse, tough, and intimidating as hell, but one of the nicest men you've ever met. During the Iraq invasion shortly after 911 we'd email each other and send letters back and forth and i got to see what the inside of Saddam Hussein's palaces looked like, and he also told me about the pamphlets that their team would drop on the kurds/ Sunnis. I still sport the 82nd Airborne Fort Bragg t-shirt he gave me nearly 30 years ago. I have the utmost respect and admiration for the 82nd airborne for all of the incredible work and grueling situations those guys deal with, they're essentially Supermen in uniform.
I believe he was also involved with a Ranger battalion, but not sure in what capacity.
Served in the 101st, best years of my life! Helped me change from boy to man.
Do a video on 1-501 PiR when they were under 4/25 and now is the 11th airborne division. 1-501 has seen a lot of combat through out the gwot especially Blackfoot company which their 3rd plt was the brigade MSF TEAM ( Mobile Strike Force) during OEF 11~12 which was the brigade’s direct action raid force
I retired 32 years ago from the Army. I served many years in the 82nd Infantry.
I never served in the 101st, but I assume it's a great unit.
But one thing for sure...an Airborne unit is 100% volunteer, or in other words, if you don't like it there you can terminate jump status be be transfered out within 30 days. No other non-airborne units offer this option, thus you are stuck there for your tour
What this means is that an airborne unit has troops who want to be there. This promotes higher and/or tougher standards all around, including appearance with spit shined boots to tougher PT.
But again, that was decades ago, and I hope they still have such standards. I was there from the 70s and 80s.
Post WWII both were strictly Airborne via Parachute. During the advent of the helicopter the 101st along with the 73rd and others became more Airmobile, but still airborne qualified to jump.
Airborne was not a good concept in the Vietnam Order of Battle. We were able to move troops faster and more effectively via helicopter. It was hard enough to secure a combat base or firebase, securing an entire DZ would have been manpower intensive.
Screaming Eagles are pretty legendary 🤔
They’re both legendary units.
I served in the 101st and I also went through Airborne School at Ft. Benning, I personally would agree that the air assault school is the 10 toughest(mentally) days in the Army.
The 25th ID (L) has or at least had its own air assault school. And conducted plenty of air assault training, that is in between beach days and mai tais.
One unit is airborne, and the other is a leg unit.
Dirty leg that is 😅
Was the gliders in ww2 also legs? When your in the choppers what is the first thing the pilot reports after taking off? “We are now airborne”. My battle buddy died taking fire in a chopper crash in Mosul Nov. 03. He died in a air assault mission . I wouldn’t call that a leg. RIP SGT.Michael Aklin 1/320 101ABN
You’re a paratrooper or a leg. If you don’t know the difference, go ask a black hat to explain it at Ft. Benning. 😂
C-3/319AFAR 13F1P
Amen AATW!
Funny thing about that. When I got to my Airborne Unit, one of the first things I saw was a UH-1 mock-up on a 30 foot tower. The NCOIC simply said, “oh yeah. Your airborne hazardous duty pay covers THAT as well.“ The only thing we did do was sling load. Although, presumably our rappel masters (all Ranger tabbed) knew how to do that, too.
In the early 80s. I inlisted when two helicopters crashed in a desert trying to rescue hostages. Then President Ronald Reagan came into office as our Commander & Chief. God I'm old. Lol
Spent 18 mos in 4th Division and they went home when I still had 6 months to serve. Sent to Headquarters co. Was a small arms repairman, assigned to H&A of 801st. Maint.
I served in the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) during my service in Iraq in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom from 2005-2009. I earned my Air Assault badge in 2007
I was with the 16th mp bergade (airborne) attached to the 82nd in Iraq 2003/04
You should do a video on the 3rd infantry division
Third brigade, 1/15in, BAKER COMPANY 😅
I ellie lawhorn,jr was a paratrooper with 82nd airborne division from october 1968 to septemter 1969.
Served 72 to 75 82nd C-1/320 FA.
Airborne All The Way
Served in both! The 101st was way harder than the 82nd. From there I went to Ranger School and later selected to SOC from which I graduated but only completed 17 missions on my 18th shit happened, and today I’m a Combat disabled Veteran, that GB will change your life forever, it was relatively “short”lived 🙇🏻! Could become a contractor but I decided not to. I miss my family, miss them very much. 😔
The 25 Infantry stationed in Hawaii, had a AirAssault School also. I had the privilege of being a instructor there. AirAssault!
76 thur 78 seved in the 101st with the 506th curahee and was a div pathfinder from 82 thur 98 served in the 82d was air assault and airborne was rapid deployment most of my career. Enlisting was the best choice i ever made.
I served in the 82nd Airborne from 1984-1987 C Battery 2/321 & 3/319 FA. I was the FO for Dco 2/508 Inf and Recon section. Airborne!
82nd 72 to 75 C-1/320 FA.
Airborne / All The Way
Served @ Campbell from '87 to '90 (just before Hussein invaded Kuwait) in the 20th Engineer Battalion. The 20th Engineers were part of "EAGLE SUPPORT BRIGADE". We were literally right between the 502nd and the 327th.
Graduated AIR ASSAULT in January '88.
D 2/327 Exact same time frame, shit we might went through AA school together damn near lol. Got home and they finally get a real mission, I was so pissed back then, now I'm grateful not have had to go.
@@patrickoneill6821 INDEED! Finally went to Jump School in August/September '96, and was assigned to Co.F 425th Infantry (LRS) in the Michigan Guard. ETS'd for good in July '99. Then of course we had 9/11 a couple years later. Thought I woulda been called back, but....NOPE! I've never heard a shot fired in anger.
@@patrickoneill6821 By the way....where the heck was the 501st & the 506th??
@jebstuart3 Are you shitting me? I was in 1st platoon under SFC Coyle and the SSG Popps! I spent 5 years in F Co. Joined when they were in Pontiac and then we moved to Selfridge. That's crazy!!! Got out in 2000 just before 9/11
@jebstuart3 I know where the Rakkasans were and (187th?) and 327th obviously but yea I don't recall. I do remember the MP's hot wife from Germany I used to bang because fuck MP's lol
Served in the 90's in the german 26th ABN brigade and had two trainings as O/C at JRTC/ Fort Polk with the Geronimos (1./509th PIR)
Served in 2002 -2005 101st got my blood wings from Col. Steele but while I was in Air Assault school I can remember falling asleep in stairwell with rucksack on
Sound of rotor blades still excites me! Ah Air Assault school I did it with a spur in my shoulder left shoulder and a pulled left lateral.
My service was from 1965 to 1979. I was 17 when I served with the 82nd and my first combat while in the Dom Rep with the 2/505. Upon return to Bragg, I was reassigned to the 1st Bde 101st Abn (Sep) in Vietnam. Infantry with both. Proud to serve in both. Both were still Airborne while I served.
you forgot the most recent poland deployments for both during the russian ukraine war. Also, while air assault school teaches helo rappelling, air assault operations do not frequently or necessarily involve rappelling. And the 82nd does air assault operations as well.
Any Army division can and is trained in conducting Air Assault missions.
While true, the 101st is set up specifically to conduct air assault operations. It has additional helicopter assets and spends a good bit of time training for them.
So does the 25th ID (L), and they have their own air assault school.
@@CherryCoke-qi1kzevery division has their own air assault school.
@@CherryCoke-qi1kzdid see the 25th air assaulting 160 miles behind enemy lines during the gulf war.
B Co. 1/502 (First Strike), from 1990 -1991. The good old days. You may not believe it, but I was younger back then.
I was with HHC 502 (Rendezvous with Destiny) 1991 - 93. Yes, lots of great memories from Ft Campbell.
Easy company 2/506 from 2010-2014 later tranisioned to ⛩️ best times of my life... currahee!!!
I served in the 18th ABN Corps, 269 AViation BDE which morphed into the 18AVN (Airborne). There was only a few of us maybe 6 of us that were on jump status. CO, 1st shirt, one ATC guy, 1Commo guy, 2 medics. Which was weird. We were the first unit to have little birds that carried stingers-AH-58's. the 269th AVN Chinoiooks and AH 58-s were part of the 160th AVN (Airborne) which was the precurser to the 160th SOAR. Our pilots deployed to the Gulf to assist in Operation Earnest Will. Anyway, moved on to the Eighty Deuce. AATW!
82nd 1-504
Forget the differences. What matters is what they have in common: if they're both deployed, whoever we're fighting is screwed. In case of war, break glass.
All the Way!
I served in the 18th Airborne Corp (Sky Dragons) at Fort Bragg N.C. during the Cold War. We trained hard along with the 82nd. to deter any Soviet threat. We were ready 24 hours a day. All the way and then some!
My dad was 82nd airborne attached to the 101st in 68 and 69. He was a radio man in Vietnam. Most of his time there was redacted and blacklisted. My grandfather was a command sergeant major. He served through WW2, Korea and Vietnam. I have a great respect for all of the veterans growing up around these veterans.
With respect to both units, I would probably try out for the 101st if I was younger
You don't try out. You get assigned based on the needs of the Army or a re-enlistment incentive. The 101st is NOT Airborne. There are a couple of small units in the Division that jump but that is it. The 82d can put 15,000 Joes on the ground anywhere in 18 hours.
The final ruck march is Air Assault is 12 miles in 3 hours or less...
Like several others on here, I served in both divisions: 2-325th AIR August 1989-March 1992 (Gulf War), 101st Pafhfinder Company January 1995-Dec 1997, 3-505th PIR January 1998-June 2000, 2-504th PIR August 2001-March 2003 (Afghanistan), 1-504th PIR March 2003-August 2004 (Iraq), and 1-506th INF REGT September 2004-March 2007 (Iraq). Hands down, my favorite was the 101 PFDR Co., but I’m proudest of my combat service in the Eighty-Deuce. All The Way!
Unique history you were apart of, the Pathfinder Co's were inactivated several years ago.
@@christopherhazell420 I’ve heard. Big mistake. I always point back to the slingload debacle on Hawaii in 99 or 2000. Lost lives, lost loads, all avoidable if they’d had Pafhfinders on the ground.
My great-uncle was 82nd, but I didn’t find out until a week or 2 ago. I found out because I was telling my Grandma about how I wanted to be a paratrooper but I didn’t know who for at the time. Before that, I wanted to be Air Force, it was my favorite branch and I like planes, but then I realized how much of a win-win it would be if I was a paratrooper. I like guns that you are supposed to use on the ground and I like planes so why not both right? I figured 82nd could be something for us to bond over, so proud to be a future “All American”.
I didn't really know what the 101st does outside of air assault now.
I just know in the 82nd, everyone roasted them for not jumping as much.
But would always defend the 101st against mockery from leg-units.
Ofc anytime an air-assault slot would open we would take it.
Who doesn't wanna sling-load cool shit to a heli?
Airfield seizure and hold for follow-on forces, was what my brigade specialized in.
Kind of weird to be dumped out the back of a plane with artillery and vehicles.
what the 82nd do with helicopters isnt really comparable to the 101st, they do everything by helicopter, anyone can move a few soldiers round in helicopters, but only the 101st can sustain them for extended periods of time with only helicopters. During the gulf war they managed to set up FOB Cobra 55 miles inside of Iraq on the first day, then 3rd Brigade used it to go another 150 miles up to highway 8 to block off basra from baghdad all by helicopter and sustained by helicopter, pretty impressive
Also the 82nd wasnt the first of its kind, germany had done many jumps before the US even joined the war, however they eventually stopped because of a few, pretty big failures, they would jump without their rifles which got dropped in boxes so they didnt actually have anything to fight with when they landed in one battle iirc
That is correct, the Russians were the first to experiment with paratroopers after WWI. They use to have troops deploy from a hatch on top of the plane and they actually had the troops wing walk out off the plane both BAD ideas.
In today’s divisions, 101st specializes in jungle insertions and extractions. The 82nd can get more troops on the ground faster, but the 101st can sustain combat longer and leapfrog ahead faster using air assault assets. Once the 82nd is on the ground they’re a regular light infantry division. Whereas the 101st maintains its air assault assets and can deploy anywhere on the battlefield quicker and extract much quicker. This is extremely important in raid operations.
The 82nd has helicopters and an aviation brigade too lol
they most definitely have air assault capabilities
@@BadMoonRising92 never repelled out of a helicopter, helocast, or was extracted by helicopter while I was in the 82nd. Did it every exercise while in the 101st. Go figure.
@@Vincent13997 I’ve been in the 82nd a total of 6 years. Also served in the 101st.
While we didn’t do helicopter operations every exercise, it’s something we have done. Learning to rappel, fast rope and helicopter extractions can be learned in like a day or two.
While they specialize in it, the 101st is not the only unit capable of heliborne tactics.
Served in 82nd 72 to
75. We were designated a rapid deployment unit. I was with 1/320 FA which is as of 1984 I believe transferred to the 101st air assault. Jumped T-10 and MC1-1 experimental.
Airborne / All The Way.
I served in A co 4/187 Inf 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) 85-86. We are all straight legs when we hit the ground.
I remember when the AFN eagle mascot tried to rappel out of a blackhawk at the Camp Casey air assault school despite everyone asking them not to do it. Got tangled up, flipped upside down and the fursuit got beheaded while the guy just dangled there defeated looking lmao
WW1 Congressional Medal of Honor recipient Sgt Alvin York served with the 82nd All American
@9:23 THE CC SAID FT MOORE GA, IT;S BENNING, GA HOME OF THE INFANTRY! GO ARMY!
HHC 2/503 rd Infantry 3rd Brigade 81-83
2 panther, GWOT era. Loved being Airborne and have deep respect for all my Infantry brothers regardless of unit.
Strange. I always thought the "AA" stood for "Athletic Alcoholics". I must be mis-informed.
82nd were deployed in sicily, italy before 6th june, 1944
I served with a few dudes in the 36th Engineer Brigade who had Airborne patches. Unsurprisingly, none of them had actually parachuted into combat.
85 to 87 in the 82nd. 88 to 89 in the 101st. Great units.