Big questions surrounding each Western Canadian NHL team heading into season
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- Опубликовано: 8 окт 2024
- The offseason is now officially behind us and puck drop on the 2024-25 NHL season for the Canadian teams is quickly approaching. TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button and TSN Hockey analyst Mike Johnson join SC with Jay Onrait to answer the big questions surrounding each of the Western Canadian clubs heading into the season.
Silovs an "asset you can move" ? Cant take that too seriously
Yeah, he's the future in net after Demko
It's TSN, they only follow the Leafs.
Right now, Silovs is the Canucks number 1 goalie...
as an outsider (tampa fan) i see the oilers - with good health, they will make the p-off's. the forwards should keep crushing it, and i really liked the 3rd line coming back fully intact - even left some $ on the table to come back. no need to win the president's trophy; just stay healthy, get a decent seeding and figure out the best team chemistry possible.
the defence though, is gonna have to figure out to replace ceci's 20 minutes. looking right now, i can see GM bowman making a move for a RHD during the season. i liked the acq for ty emberson - he did decent on a dogshit SJS team, so if he can carry that over it'll help the oilers a bunch.
skinner in net is def not hasek but if he cuts down on brain cramps, improves his lateral movement and athleticism, he shouldn't be a liability. that said he's not a guy that can hijack a series either.
people who choose to shit on skinner should consider that he was forced to develop faster than expected because of jack campbell wetting the bed on the ice. the other thing is in game 7 of the 2024 SCF, EDM scored 1 goal. skinner let in 2, and one of them was a dogshit defensive breakdown by brett kulak. mcjesus and draisaitl had 0 points in game 7. as did RNH and hyman.
for the sensitive and insecure segment of the oilers fanbase, there's nothing magical or mysterious about the criticism of the team's defence and overall roster age from anyone.
EDM has been built to win NOW, if not within the next 2-3 years. 2025 will be their best chance to win the stanley cup b4 the big contract extensions come in. mcjesus aside, the real big contract to watch is bouch-bombs. if he plays well, he could very well be seeking erik karlsson money. if you compare evan in-house to the darnell, bouch is def worth more than $9.25m. so that contract is going to have big influence on the oilers salary cap.
not saying EDM won't be able to get back to the final after 2025, but they absolutely won't have a better shot than this season.
Stuart Skinner last postseason was remarkable in helping the Oilers get as far as they did: to their 1st post-2006, Stanley Cup final. whether he ever gets inducted in the hockey, Hall of Fame or even Windsor, Vasona is less important than what he accomplished last postseason. Carey Price with the Habs took them to a Stanley Cup final in 2021 even with, like with the Oilers last summer, in a losing cause.
Oilers need more than one defensemen lol
Ekholm or Bouchard?
@@PabloPuckasso people say Vancouver needs one more top 4 defensemen to be a contender, yet those same people consider Edmonton a contender in their current state, doesn't really make sense lol
The Winnipeg Jets last regular season finished with more points in the standings than any of the remaining Canadian teams. That said, the Jets continued to struggle in the postseason via having allowed at least five goals in every game they had played against the Avs, continuing a streak during which they had allowed at least four goals per game going back to the 2023 Jets-Golden Knights playoff series. I give the Jets’ 2024 offseason 5.5 stars out of 10 because although they had well and truly needed to beef up their blueline, they came nowhere close to what I would call a good job doing so. Out of given the Jets‘ 2044, off-season an F (below five stars out of 10) had it not been for the great regular season they had had.
@kodykongsdorf You can just say that you don't know much about hockey. Edmonton has the best top 6 forward group in the league. Yes they need help on the back end, but different teams have different needs to be "contenders". Edmonton is obviously there even with the defense core that they are icing. Don't believe me? Ask just about anyone who gets paid to know about hockey who their stanley cup favourite for 24/25 is.
For Edmonton to win it all, they need to finally at minimum win the pacific division and have a steady season. Over the last 3 seasons, twice they had to fire their coach during the season. And pull a horse shoe out their *ss by finding a defenceman that can carry Nurse.
GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!!!! SUCK IT, HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The referee situation was so bias against the Canucks vs Oilers series it was undeniable. Non calls on McDavid's highstick on Hughes drawing blood then the refs telling Hughes to get off his shift because he's bleeding all over the ice. Then there were the Oilers embellishment calls, with McDavid flying through the air while Joshua's stick is on the ice, or the charging call on Petterson for standing still....and I can go on! If only there were fair refereeing & that's all I'm asking, Vancouver should've moved on from that series & not the Oilers. If the calls are justified I'm okay but referee bias ruins the game of hockey because we don't know if these refs are betting against a certain team or paid to go against another. I truly believe refs should be vetted better to find no financial bias with their authoritative position.
Oilers have had a Goalie issue for years now....its terminal.
For Winnipeg, pay attention to Miller, who is putting up goals and is a dark horse. Also to a healthy Villardi, plus more ice time for Ehlers and Perfetti. Plus new approach to special teams which looked great preseason. Put this together and they are a very competitive team, despite losing some players. They will be around 100 to points this season.
All great points, but not enough to get to 100. I'm betting somewhere around 90 points, +/- 5 points. The + if they add in Lambert, Chibrikov and Salomonsson. The - if they don't add those 3. So, barely making or barely missing the playoffs is their fate this year.
Oilers have 30 career game Ty Emberson penciled in next to Darnell “Tire Fire” Nurse.
Contender! lol
dEdmonton
Oilers lost a lot and Canucks added, I think its more than a little crazy to value the oilers who needed 7 games to beat a Demko less canucks. Oilers won't get out the second round.
Silovs isn't getting moved either this is amateurish.
I don't know if you noticed, but Demko is chronically injured and Silovs has had all of 1 good run in his career. Also the Oilers did not lose a lot. 2 prospects who were about to become everyday NHLers, a career 3rd line guy in Foegle, and a coupler of bottom pairing D in Desharnais and Ceci. Canucks lost Lindhom and Zadorov, but go off on how much better you are!
Oilers chances of a cup depend on the health of Demko.
Demko doesn't matter. He didn't last year, he won't this year. Silovs is good enough, more than good enough. Vancouver's strength is its depth: they can lose Miller, Boeser and Demko and still win. Imagine Oilers without McD? Or Drai, or even Bourchard now?
Imagine a team without the two best players in the world? I think that would hurt any team... aha
Canucks fans don’t worry about the oilers. They will be alright. 😂
Jets, Oilers, Canucks, and Leafs, ffs one of these teams at least has to get to the SCFs, they may not win it, but fk, just to make us Canadians feel relevant when it comes to hockey, one of "US" have to make it to the final.
@bhenderson2725 as a canadian i certainly don't need to have a 🍁-based team go the the SCF, let alone win it. there's plenty of wonderful good teams out there, and the bottom line is there's still a shitload of canadian-born players that will always have an important impact, no matter what team wins the stanley cup.
now and forever.
Last year Oilers were as lucky as you can get: no injuries to major players past 15 games in. That can't be counted on every year. Cup or bust is absolutely right with them: my guess is that it's bust. An injury to McD or Drai is death. An injury to either of their top 2 D is tricky too. So... I think they are vulnerable because: (a) they have to make the playoffs, and then (b), you need to be healthy enough through the first 2 rounds. The Pacific is stronger this year, not weaker. I think they spent their luck last year.
Silica is a number 1 goalie. Last year thrown into the fire, just wasn’t up to speed on shot speed. He let shots in that Demko doesn’t.
Do you know what I find entertaining, Craig and a lot of these people on TSN keep talking about how Edmonton is not a complete team yet, they are going to get another defenceman.
Yet, the Vancouver Canucks are going to be doing the exact same thing, they are not a complete team yet, and are going to get a significant piece of the deadline .
Yeah, they don’t bring it at all😅
A one line team expected to win the Stanley Cup 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Which line? Draisitl's or McDavid's?
@@PabloPuckasso Everyone knows that the team sucks when they are separated😂
@@vancity_5.0 You got the stats behind that or is this just another canucks fan still hurt from being bounced in the 2nd round last year? No stanley cups either btw
Oilers will run out of steam before the post season
Have these guys ever even been west of Mississauga? Some may have ventured to the "far west" of Hamilton I suppose. These homers ought to stick with what they know: the Leafs.
Canucks fans really having a time in the comments. Talking a big game for a team that has literally never succeeded at the highest level.
Why is Mike Johnston getting so much air time thrs days?
You ask a good question, considering how infrequently I see Gord Miller, who calls various games, including those for the Leafs, Sens (particularly with John Abbott having switched to last off-season to calling Sportsnet TV broadcasts of Flames’ games) and Canada’s World-Junior and adult men’s teams, infrequently on episodes of TSN’s SportsCentre.
career years happen multiple times. It's only year later you can look back and say that was the best year. This guy doesn't understand young players getting better, which is odd for an analyst
BUST only cup the COILERS will SNIFF is the 1 they put on in the dressing room before they put on their equipement on
As a Winnipeg born Winnipeg Jets fan for as long as they have and will be around... *sad face* They have a decent team, but they lost players and didn't fill the positions with better players. In fact, they took a small step back. So, they will "probably" make the playoffs as is, but if they don't make any changes, they will end up a quick out in the 1st round. I was hoping they would start the youth movement. Not FULL OUT youth movement, but at least 3 or 4 players, subbing out their MANY mediocre players. Oh well. Next year?
The Jets last season were a great regular-season team, but throwing defence under the bus in the first round of the 2024 postseason unsurprisingly made them a quick out. The postseason before that they’d been a quick out because they once again had had tremendous difficulty keeping the puck out of their own net. How is allowing at least four goals over nine consecutive playoff games, including at least five over the last five, not simply throwing defence under the bus? Only True North Sports and Entertainment, which owns that team, truly knows.
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