Bro a audi with that amount of milage what are you complaining about I would be happy that it actually drives at all. At that mileage its recommoned to send it to the junkyard.
Don't let it go! Fix the motor and run it as your daily driver and let us see what is happening. I'd kick in $25 for the repair. Can you tell me if this timing chain is completely original? Does the timing chain and tensioner have over 300,000 Miles on it? Thank you, Mike Fitzgerald Calgary Canada 🇨🇦
hi there. its not unheard of milage fot this 3.0 tdi. it can be said it pretty normal for tdi. car clearly have timing chain issue but, something odd. 3.0 tdi starts suffering this on 400.000km (close to 250.000 mile) that timing chains should be changed much earlier. i shared smilar engine chain stucture (2.7 tdi very close to 3.0tdi chains) its not an easy job but it can be done. ruclips.net/user/shortsC9hsvjcPVkg
My A6 3.0t blew up at 110 scored a cylinder #6 and needed to re sleeve or rebuild. What i did was buy a 65k motor on lifetimeaudiparts forn$3500 put it in and runs like a champ.
Hmm, it depends on metal shavings.Might be related to chain guides hitting backplate.It's cheap to check camshafts for damage, if those are ok and also check fuel pressure pump for metal shaving related to injectors, if everything ok, just change the chains.
The diesel gate thing was an emissions software installed in VW diesel vehicles to reduce emissions during periodic testing programs. Emissions would be reduced for the test and then would stop for normal driving. If left functioning, the MPG would have suffered and VW was pushing fuel economy. I am not sure the same software was installed in Audi products but in any event it would not cause any engine damage. Metal shavings would indicate the moving parts were lacking adequate lubrication perhaps due to a malfunctioning oil pump. It may have been replaced, but it by then some damage had taken place.
and I agree, if you have so much experience buying cars, you should have your own laptop with a UDP port diagnostic program, and run your own diagnostics!!
He never complained about the 300k miles or the car. He complains about Audi/VW shady business practices (which is similar to all car repair shops really, unfortunately). But yeah. Title is pure clickbait
I’ve got a 2015 A7 TDI with 60k on it (thanks COVID!). Awesome car, powerful, efficient, drives like a dream. The best highway car of all IMHO (panamaras have an argument, but nothing else). Love the turbo diesel, torque all day at speed and paddle shifters make it fun. Sorry you took a beating with yours but people who love cars and driving should run towards these cars if they can find one.
Best and cheapest option: replace the timing chain yourself if you have the tools and some experience. 2nd best option: drop a used engine in it and keep on rolling.
You should go for Mercedes 123 200d , once a taxi driver gave me a ride he made 1 million kilometers with it then exchanged the motor and had 300 000km on it and people from Mercedes told him if he goes 1 million with a new motor they will give him a brand new car whichever he chooses
Please go for it and put a used motor on it and post the next video we are terribaly waiting for the next video and thank for sharing your amazing experience with honesty and you look a very honest person, good job
Swap in a 3.0t supercharged, im sure they're a lot cheaper and easier to find, dual pulley and a bit of Ethonal will put out it right around 450 (wheel) horsepower range. Plenty fun, decently reliable and keeps the A7 comfort. May not get 40 mpg, but it'll be fast and with the 8 spped, I've seen close to 25ish mpg tuned while having a bit of fun.
Personally I would put another motor in it for the 5 or $6000 it will cost because everything else about the car is in such fantastic condition it would be a shame to sell for parts😢..but one thing I will say is it just proves these engines can do high mileages if the serviced regularly even though the main dealers do rip you off..one more thing to say Fantastic video and I will be collecting my 2016 A7 3.0 tdi 272bhp model black line next Friday 22nd of December with full Audi service history with a less 103,000 miles on it..👍👍🤛🤛
Is in mile not in kilometer😅 The conversion in km is 600k i think. E poi cosa vorresti dire con quel le trovi in Italia scusa? Che in Russia o da dove vieni tu le cambiate a 50k km le macchine ?
@@danielcars367 would love to watch a segment breaking down each service item and the mileage it happened at. Including any notes from the shop made along the way. I just scanned car gurus for all A7’s nationwide and there were like 700 gas options, and 13 diesels… that’s my biggest problem with getting one.
@@danielcars367 like the premium one must pay for diesel over gas might not pay off unless they simply will not depreciate nearly as much as gas over the next 5 years and require less maintenance in the process. Some gas A7’s can be had for $10-12k while I don’t see a diesel selling much under $20k.
There was a 16 on CarGurus very similar to mine with 173k miles that listed at $17,990. It had been lowered but otherwise looked nice! I would imagine most of the 10-12k options are 12-13 models, I would go for 14 at minimum - when I was still at the dealership we had a few 12's come through with weird timing issues (gas). I don't see the diesels depreciating on the same curve as the gas ones, and I think maintenance on both will be pretty hefty. Diesel will be more expensive just because of the emissions stuff, deleted will probably be a lot less than the gas one. Will definitely include service history in my next video!@@zanetaylor7
Been a long time Audi owner, from TT to A7 TDI to Etron- Loved the TDI A7 - Your point well taken on your Audi Dealership experience and Audi Corporate with your TDI. Not sure what you paid for the car.. but if you find a low mileage engine from a insur total TDI is the way I would go.. thanks for your sharing.. The Etron was great, but - Low distance travel. Audi E 2019 only got average commute about 160 miles before recharge..Audi claimed 220, never happen.. When it comes to E cars, when you start using , heater, a/c, heated seats, defrost, etc. your going to drop travel miles by 25-30%...if I could get 500 miles out of Audi E car would consider.. the TDI we got 35 intown 45 highway. love the TDI.. sadly the Govt. put an end to diesel for American cars.
I had a Model S a few years ago! It was an early one so the range was only about 200 miles on a good day. Honestly I like electric just fine, but there were days where I forgot to plug it in at night that would’ve really thrown me off if I didn’t have another car! Also one particular trip I remember where I was SO worried about making it to a charger. Idk, I’m sure it’s the future but I love my TDI!!!
maybe get a motor and start a series of repairing it, then slowly joining the 1 million km club (probably gonna be the first one of its kind) and try to get it back to audi to see if they will replace this with a new one (maybe not, but worth a shot)
I'm just amazed he still brought it to Audi for maintenance and he managed not to install the dieselgate software recall. Each time I bring a car to a dealer, they check recalls and correct them and I learn about it after the fact. I would've still done them anyways.
Seems like the guy built relationships with the service advisors and asked them to not get it done. Since they are the ones who make the service sheet for the techs to know what to do.
i totally agree these days 99% mechanics working in dealership are just un-professionals, like fresh graduates who doesnt know anything about automobile science, they not even have a basic knowledge about engines, and for TDI they are just new born babies as they never had hand on experience these days, its just marketing these days and dealership just make fools of customers. they focus on just making customers buying new cars and making revenue for the showroom. I have 2 litre TDI vw jetta , i never go to dealership for services, these are gem engines just you need to find professional mechanics having their private garage in your area who has good knowledge about TDI engines. The problem is you took this car at a very high mileage , generally these engines start giving trouble after 300k km, so you need to check basic stuff in TDI form (where TDI owner post their experience) specially timing belt and pump need to be change after 150k km , and DPF filter , EGR and turbos get clogged due to exhaust chute so they need cleaning after 150k km, rest these engines are bullet proof. I bought my car at 60k km and its now 145k km. I got some wiring harness issues which has been changed by dealership, Even dealership never suggest you to change the timing belt by them self, we owner need to be smart enough to do ourself. i asked the dealership and they even dont know when to change these belts at what km, they start running here and there to find the answers, damm, now i m waiting for my timing belt change. So people are smart they sell these cars after 250k km. And i totally agree it was an un biased deal for you man, hard luck, i dnt recommand to refurfish the engine, but if you really like the car, try to find a nice mechanic who had worked in dealership for years and have good experience in handling TDI engines and has his own garrage. good luck
Also, try to do a little research on dealership discounts, I know for sure that here is Jersey many of these Audi delars give free diagnostic and very cheap oil change also discount on service (I found one that give 20 percent off), you probably would get better help if you know some of these information.
Yup. That kind of repair $$$ always follows the dealerships and many shops, because they just assume, "This guy can afford a really nice Audi, he's not even going to question our 'diagnosis' and just swipe his credit card. I really hate how all these shops do that to clients. There ARE few shops that actually tell you exactly what's wrong with car in the diagnosis and how they arrived at that conclusion.
I would go motor swap, you'll struggle to find a good/trustworthy place to rebuild the engine . Also you can sell the good parts on the old engine to get some money back
I did the motor swap! Working on an update video now as she’s driving beautifully. Reeeaaalllyyy wish I had read this before doing it because you’re right, I could’ve got a lot more out of the old engine than my $100 core charge!
I have a 2015 VW Passat TDI, 120 K miles, no issues, recall work was done for Dieselgate, I avg 48 mpg now that said, this would have been my first red flag, it is illegal to run and register a TDI without Dieselgate warranty work done. so, I don't even know how you were able to buy and register this VIN, oh yeah, I lived in MD for 22 years, am very familiar with MD DMV, and something shady had to go on to ever transfer title, get a used engine, and find a European Diesel engine expert!
Drop new used engine man and give this car more life span, she is a beauty. I mean I would after spending all this moneys and I love these A7 they are gorgeous.
In progress! I couldn’t give up on her - will do a new video soon when the engine is in, planning to take advantage of the fall weather and spend some time doing paint correction and detail too!
Just find a individual shop to fix it, this car is a legend, like honestly, you don’t find one of these so often, and by the way as an a6 owner of this era, Audi USA all of these dealership no matter where you go are jerks, don’t let their attitude scare you away, I’m sure there is a cheaper way to fix the issue.
That’s exactly what I did. It was cheaper to put a used motor in it than to pull this one out and tear into it. Will cost about 5k all said and done but could be much worse and honestly, not too upset by it! Only 100k on the engine now so that’s good 😅
Tbh, even if I scanned and for a history code for the oil pump, I would’ve assumed since it wasn’t actively throwing a code it wouldn’t have been something to worry about. In retrospect, I definitely heard a little chatter, but engine overall sounded and pulled healthy. I made a judgement call and was wrong and now I’m kinda buried in it, but honestly I enjoy the car so whatever 🤷♂️
I'd daily it to failure. Get the most roi you can and then as you mentioned you can sell it to a Pick-n-Pull because if the body is clean the trans etc it should have some intrinsic value
Americans had no idea about how to deal with European diesel engines, unfortunately. If this scenario was in Europe you would have had much better outcomes.
Thats awesome! Such a great powertrain. Our Q5 has the same engine and well over 250k. Still going strong. The a7 (in my opinion) is vastly better looking inside and out.
Definitely worth buying - my friend just bought one with 104k and has been driving it cross country. If you live in a state where you can get away with deleting it, the car becomes a lot more reliable (and efficient/faster). You might even still have warranty coverage audidiesellookup.com/ That all being said, and older European car probably isn’t the wisest thing to buy from an economic standpoint. You will absolutely do better with a Lexus product
I have one of these 2017 tdi 3.0 272 bhp its at 82k very strong. However, the timing chain is rattling and its recently had a coolant leak,I had to replace the coolant control valve, water pump and egr valve, that reapir cost me 1.2k. As for the timing chain, that is a 3k job but im gonna leave it and sell it for the next owner to splash on this money pit 😂
I did it! That’s actually when I noticed the knocking noise. It’s kind of a long process, it involves using an SD card to update your MMI and unlock CarPlay, 12-15 didn’t have the hardware and 17+ had CarPlay from the factory enabled. 16 had hardware but no CarPlay. The files I used were found on the audi forums and I think the software was called “most incredible bash” Honestly, the whole process was iffy at best and I’m a kind of technical guy. I think there’s people on the forums that will do it for you for like $50 or so. Also, it’s wired CarPlay only
Personally, considering the meticolous service history and the fact that someone actually taken care of this car I'd put the used, revision engine if you have a good service who take care of it. But it also depends on your feelings towards the car. After all, it's modern Audi so the engine will be the least problematic element in this puzzle, the maintenance will not be cheap, however the fuel consumption can sweeten deal.
I’m leaning towards the engine strongly. I’m not even the kind of guy who keeps cars for years and years, but right now at least I love the car and the uniqueness. I’ve always loved diesel and this is a car that’ll just never exist in America again. Maintenance definitely won’t be cheap (we can see what the previous owner had to spend there!) but I knew that going into it and I imagine any future owners of this car will too!
@@danielcars367 It's really interesting to see different approach depending on the place we are. In Europe, especially the Eastern part, diesels are still common thing as well as old Audis. That's why I don't have such feelings towards this car. However aesthetically first generation A7 is one of the sleekest designs in last years. Hope it'll not end up as parts donor and the mileage will keep rising soon.
@@JeremiBulakowski Totally! If I could easily replace this car because diesel A7's were common, I would! But just not the case here - in fact theres so few that the TDI Audi/VW models are still selling for quite the premium over there gas counterparts This is not to say that I'm some huge diesel guy. I think they both have their pros and cons. Most of my cars are gas and will continue to be, but the torque and fuel economy of these 3.0 VW TDI's are incredible! I think it's a shame that regulations are tightening down on them. I know the EU is as well and I'm pretty sure I read the other day VW is planning to phase out diesel worldwide over the next few years as well.
Man, it is completely your fault, I am sorry, you just do not buy a 346 Miles car.. end of the story. You will only bleed your wallet out every month.. And anyway if you said you bought " A million " cars, you should be one of those people going around with a laptop and a VCDS scanner installed whenever you go buy something.. and don't be mad that you found incompetent people before. Never trust random mechanics that you do not know personally, there is 1 good mechanic out of 10.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying that at all. At the end of the day theres a bunch of steps I could've taken to prevent this situation, but realistically, I wanted the car and thought it was cool that it had unbelievably high mileage. In fact, I still do which is why I'm probably going to fix it Mechanics though? Oof. I'm not sure if it's because of the tech shortage or what, but even the mechanics I know and trust (which don't want anything to do with diesel anything) are super lazy these days with diagnostics. Maybe its because I live in a smaller part of the country, but it's a huge issue that I dealt with while I was in the car industry, and one I'm still facing. Also - maybe a million was an exaggeration, but I bought easily hundreds through the lane at manheim! Private party is a kind of new thing for me though
If you take a moment to do the "Math" on this... The original owner spent ~$1,600 per MONTH on this car for 7 years. That's including the $77k MSRP + $58kin maintenance. This does NOT include any interest if the car was financed. My house is $1,200/month... WOW!
That’s why it’s better to spend more money and have less mileage, instead of taking a big risk. Why did you decide to buy it in first place? Was it very cheap? Anyway - I hope you will enjoy it afterwards :)
I paid $10k for the car, which for a running/driving facelift A7 TDI was great, I could part it for more than that. At 15k with a new engine though? Yeah I could of done better for that 😅 Still happy, still a super nice, well taken care of car! And I’m just weird, I love the fact it has miles on it. If it was 40k I’d just be “meh” about it
Buy a low mileage used motor and have a shop, not Audi throw it in. I’ve done it with 3 of my previously owned cars. I own a high mileage Audi and I’m not comparing my Honda to it, but my Honda has over 500k on it with a used motor I thrown in it. Don’t let that car go , hope you get what it needs.
Is Audi USA willing to provide some warranty or good will towards a new/used engine? If someone has spent 60k with them (admittedly not you) you would think they would stand by the product. Dealerships also warranty their work, if you are able to pin the blame on the person who did the last oil change/service then that could get it covered. I have a hard time believing that this is just occurring now, it's done 350k miles and it decides to let go as soon as you buy it. There MUST be some kind of connection with that last oil change.
That's what I thought! The guy drives it everyday - no problem. I offer to get the car shipped to me before deciding to go up there and get it, and he offered to drive it down. No issues at all. Audi dealer does an oil change three days before I pick it up and 1,000 miles later I need an engine. Unreal. I ultimately decided it wasn't worth paying to ship a knocking car back to Maryland and having to burden the previous owner with everything. Used engine with 100k miles and a 6 months parts and labor warranty for $3350, labor $1600. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. New video on the car soon hopefully!
@@danielcars367 Something has to have gone wrong with that oil change. The chunks in the oil pan didn't look like they had been building up for a while. If I were you I would be in contact with the Audi dealer that last did the oil change and asking them what, if anything, has gone wrong before it's too late. It never hurts to ask.
Hahahaha they were like that when I bought it 😬 I was told it’s just what happens living in DC. Going to practice some wheel repair when it gets nicer outside!
Felt him when it came to the diagnostics. It is very annoying by and disappointing. People at shops will have you there thinking they’re checking everything out and whole time they’re not doing everything that they could. Then charge you a buttt amount of money
He ain't mad about dealing with issues. He is mad about lazy/useless service from the repair shops that just rip off money from u, without even checking the damn car.
That’s my bad 😬 here in the US no one maintains their cars, and honestly there’s very few mechanics who can actually properly work on these cars, and even if you find them the labor cost is insane. So rare to see a euro car in the 300s here!
I'm amused how americans react to this mileage. Many cars especially 90s in europe have 350k miles and even 650k. My dads audi 100 1993 had 1.54m km/939k miles and still ran fine
Yeah, we definitely throw away cars here. Honestly now that I’m thinking about it, we throw away everything. Not really a huge repair culture! I mean if I was in Europe I’m sure I could find someone to repair the timing chains on this car and keep driving it, over here? Good luck finding someone who can do that job. Even if you did, it would be extremely cost prohibitive. From someone who has spend their entire life driving around in high mileage 90s cars just because I like them, it’s way more believable for one of those to make it to 350 than for a modern Audi. Tighter emissions, crazy engineered engines with super tight tolerances, variable valve timing, and all the other electrics all around the car.
get a used motor and do an egr delete and a dpf delete after that do a remap to the engine and gearbox and you can enjoy a fast torque monster reliable fuel efficient luxurious audi
Used motor in progress and update hopefully coming soon. Deleting this thing is a huge temptation! We don’t have any emissions testing where I’m at anyways. Would be super fun to document it and feel the before and after!
@@danielcars367 that’s great news about the emissions testing i can’t wait for the next videos I’m from morocco and we get the European spec with less emissions restrictions from the dealer and trust me when i tell you if you get the bi turbo engine and do the delete with a European remap specialist you will have the most reliable and fastest a7 TDI IN THE USA
Nice video bro, it's sad people work so hard for there money and save just to find out these million dollar CO. try n get are trying to get more out of you.
That’s what I ended up doing - engine replaced with a used one. Not exactly a lot of independent mechanics around me who want to tear deep into a diesel Audi engine!
@@danielcars367 I think it is. Sad, but true. Also, maybe it consumes a lot of time. If your time is more valuable, maybe you sell it as it is and go on with your life.
i can tell thats a small problem , some sensor issue , in america the mechanics are dumb for an european car , here in europe we fixing cars like that on my own garage ! Make a video abouth whats the issue or what you see , we can tell what is the problem!
Man I wish I was in Europe! It would be a whole different story I know I ended up putting a used motor in it, trying to do an update video now. It was knocking when cold, and making a pretty profound noise especially when coming off the gas. There was a stored code for oil pressure and after pulling the pan there was metal in the engine. No idea what happened but I’m guessing lack of oil pressure chewed up a bearing
Watching the video, the A7 has a interesting story. In my opinion don’t let it go, just get a used motor and continue racking up the miles
Honestly thats what I'm thinking too
Bro a audi with that amount of milage what are you complaining about I would be happy that it actually drives at all. At that mileage its recommoned to send it to the junkyard.
Don't let it go! Fix the motor and run it as your daily driver and let us see what is happening. I'd kick in $25 for the repair. Can you tell me if this timing chain is completely original? Does the timing chain and tensioner have over 300,000 Miles on it?
Thank you,
Mike Fitzgerald Calgary Canada 🇨🇦
This is my top 5 dream car. 6k for a engine, is a win win for you brother.
That’s a gorgeous car with insane mileage! I’d love to see it keep climbing!
I decided the same! Going to keep this machine on the road!
hi there. its not unheard of milage fot this 3.0 tdi. it can be said it pretty normal for tdi. car clearly have timing chain issue but, something odd. 3.0 tdi starts suffering this on 400.000km (close to 250.000 mile) that timing chains should be changed much earlier. i shared smilar engine chain stucture (2.7 tdi very close to 3.0tdi chains) its not an easy job but it can be done. ruclips.net/user/shortsC9hsvjcPVkg
My A6 3.0t blew up at 110 scored a cylinder #6 and needed to re sleeve or rebuild. What i did was buy a 65k motor on lifetimeaudiparts forn$3500 put it in and runs like a champ.
Do you know any other web like lifetimeaudioarts for other cars
I’d hope so for only having 65,000
Hmm, it depends on metal shavings.Might be related to chain guides hitting backplate.It's cheap to check camshafts for damage, if those are ok and also check fuel pressure pump for metal shaving related to injectors, if everything ok, just change the chains.
I would assume it's hpfp metal shavings, change the pump, change to oil, do an engine flu6 and obviously brand new injections, you might get lucky!
Really like the car and the story! Great channel you have.. Enjoyed the drop and I Thank You Daniel👊
Thanks so much! Feedback really helps!
The diesel gate thing was an emissions software installed in VW diesel vehicles to reduce emissions during periodic testing programs. Emissions would be reduced for the test and then would stop for normal driving. If left functioning, the MPG would have suffered and VW was pushing fuel economy. I am not sure the same software was installed in Audi products but in any event it would not cause any engine damage. Metal shavings would indicate the moving parts were lacking adequate lubrication perhaps due to a malfunctioning oil pump. It may have been replaced, but it by then some damage had taken place.
and I agree, if you have so much experience buying cars, you should have your own laptop with a UDP port diagnostic program, and run your own diagnostics!!
I actually remember you and your car from Milage impossible!
You have a new subscriber now. 😁
Small world and cool group! Thanks for the subscribe!
Bros motor did not blow up in his face 😢 freaking click bait … title should be “guy buys a7 with 300k miles and complains about it “
He never complained about the 300k miles or the car. He complains about Audi/VW shady business practices (which is similar to all car repair shops really, unfortunately).
But yeah. Title is pure clickbait
I’ve got a 2015 A7 TDI with 60k on it (thanks COVID!). Awesome car, powerful, efficient, drives like a dream. The best highway car of all IMHO (panamaras have an argument, but nothing else). Love the turbo diesel, torque all day at speed and paddle shifters make it fun. Sorry you took a beating with yours but people who love cars and driving should run towards these cars if they can find one.
My 2016 A7 has 32K. May be lowest mileage 2016 that I know of. Bought it in 2019 after a 3 yr. lease and it had 22K then. I live in Baltimore.
Best and cheapest option: replace the timing chain yourself if you have the tools and some experience. 2nd best option: drop a used engine in it and keep on rolling.
Thbaks for the cool story. I watched the outcome video frost, so spoiler alert - thank you for giving second heart to this beautiful car!
You should go for Mercedes 123 200d , once a taxi driver gave me a ride he made 1 million kilometers with it then exchanged the motor and had 300 000km on it and people from Mercedes told him if he goes 1 million with a new motor they will give him a brand new car whichever he chooses
I have a super clean 240D 1982 and I’m selling a super clean 1983 SEL500 91,000 miles
Please go for it and put a used motor on it and post the next video we are terribaly waiting for the next video and thank for sharing your amazing experience with honesty and you look a very honest person, good job
That's the plan! New video soonish, she’s gotten surgery!!
I want an A7 like this so bad, don't dump it, make it alive again. I'm heading to see the next video of what happened :D
Swap in a 3.0t supercharged, im sure they're a lot cheaper and easier to find, dual pulley and a bit of Ethonal will put out it right around 450 (wheel) horsepower range. Plenty fun, decently reliable and keeps the A7 comfort. May not get 40 mpg, but it'll be fast and with the 8 spped, I've seen close to 25ish mpg tuned while having a bit of fun.
might as well get an s7 then
@mrk2938 a lot more expensive, not as good of a story... way worse, reliability and fuel economy.
3.0tfsi is a horrible engine with reliability. thats why they so cheap. s7 v8 is way better. @@danialkhan8012
Bough a VW Golf from dealer with shit tons of problem same issue can’t sell it to private buyer knowing this car got issue stuck
Respect man
Personally I would put another motor in it for the 5 or $6000 it will cost because everything else about the car is in such fantastic condition it would be a shame to sell for parts😢..but one thing I will say is it just proves these engines can do high mileages if the serviced regularly even though the main dealers do rip you off..one more thing to say Fantastic video and I will be collecting my 2016 A7 3.0 tdi 272bhp model black line next Friday 22nd of December with full Audi service history with a less 103,000 miles on it..👍👍🤛🤛
You can find that later in Italy as 347k km😂
Is in mile not in kilometer😅
The conversion in km is 600k i think.
E poi cosa vorresti dire con quel le trovi in Italia scusa? Che in Russia o da dove vieni tu le cambiate a 50k km le macchine ?
that's the joke buddy....he even talks about it in the vid at 11:00
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No problem to fix it, pal! The problem is the distance between the US and the UK.
If I was in Europe my life would be so much easier in multiple ways!
Hope you’ll do a follow up and more of a review of what’s still working at that mileage and the overall condition.
Stay tuned! Working on that today actually -- she drives again!
@@danielcars367 would love to watch a segment breaking down each service item and the mileage it happened at. Including any notes from the shop made along the way.
I just scanned car gurus for all A7’s nationwide and there were like 700 gas options, and 13 diesels… that’s my biggest problem with getting one.
@@danielcars367 like the premium one must pay for diesel over gas might not pay off unless they simply will not depreciate nearly as much as gas over the next 5 years and require less maintenance in the process.
Some gas A7’s can be had for $10-12k while I don’t see a diesel selling much under $20k.
There was a 16 on CarGurus very similar to mine with 173k miles that listed at $17,990. It had been lowered but otherwise looked nice! I would imagine most of the 10-12k options are 12-13 models, I would go for 14 at minimum - when I was still at the dealership we had a few 12's come through with weird timing issues (gas).
I don't see the diesels depreciating on the same curve as the gas ones, and I think maintenance on both will be pretty hefty. Diesel will be more expensive just because of the emissions stuff, deleted will probably be a lot less than the gas one. Will definitely include service history in my next video!@@zanetaylor7
Did the math and he must have driven on average around 4 123 miles each month...
Been a long time Audi owner, from TT to A7 TDI to Etron- Loved the TDI A7 - Your point well taken on your Audi Dealership experience and Audi Corporate with your TDI. Not sure what you paid for the car.. but if you find a low mileage engine from a insur total TDI is the way I would go.. thanks for your sharing.. The Etron was great, but - Low distance travel. Audi E 2019 only got average commute about 160 miles before recharge..Audi claimed 220, never happen.. When it comes to E cars, when you start using , heater, a/c, heated seats, defrost, etc. your going to drop travel miles by 25-30%...if I could get 500 miles out of Audi E car would consider.. the TDI we got 35 intown 45 highway. love the TDI.. sadly the Govt. put an end to diesel for American cars.
I had a Model S a few years ago! It was an early one so the range was only about 200 miles on a good day. Honestly I like electric just fine, but there were days where I forgot to plug it in at night that would’ve really thrown me off if I didn’t have another car! Also one particular trip I remember where I was SO worried about making it to a charger. Idk, I’m sure it’s the future but I love my TDI!!!
maybe get a motor and start a series of repairing it, then slowly joining the 1 million km club (probably gonna be the first one of its kind) and try to get it back to audi to see if they will replace this with a new one (maybe not, but worth a shot)
I'm just amazed he still brought it to Audi for maintenance and he managed not to install the dieselgate software recall. Each time I bring a car to a dealer, they check recalls and correct them and I learn about it after the fact. I would've still done them anyways.
Seems like the guy built relationships with the service advisors and asked them to not get it done. Since they are the ones who make the service sheet for the techs to know what to do.
Dieselgate is a weird one and requires the customer to sign a disclosure! Otherwise, I’m sure they’d love to just go ahead and do it
i totally agree these days 99% mechanics working in dealership are just un-professionals, like fresh graduates who doesnt know anything about automobile science, they not even have a basic knowledge about engines, and for TDI they are just new born babies as they never had hand on experience these days, its just marketing these days and dealership just make fools of customers. they focus on just making customers buying new cars and making revenue for the showroom.
I have 2 litre TDI vw jetta , i never go to dealership for services, these are gem engines just you need to find professional mechanics having their private garage in your area who has good knowledge about TDI engines.
The problem is you took this car at a very high mileage , generally these engines start giving trouble after 300k km, so you need to check basic stuff in TDI form (where TDI owner post their experience) specially timing belt and pump need to be change after 150k km , and DPF filter , EGR and turbos get clogged due to exhaust chute so they need cleaning after 150k km, rest these engines are bullet proof. I bought my car at 60k km and its now 145k km.
I got some wiring harness issues which has been changed by dealership, Even dealership never suggest you to change the timing belt by them self, we owner need to be smart enough to do ourself. i asked the dealership and they even dont know when to change these belts at what km, they start running here and there to find the answers, damm, now i m waiting for my timing belt change. So people are smart they sell these cars after 250k km. And i totally agree it was an un biased deal for you man, hard luck,
i dnt recommand to refurfish the engine, but if you really like the car, try to find a nice mechanic who had worked in dealership for years and have good experience in handling TDI engines and has his own garrage. good luck
Also, try to do a little research on dealership discounts, I know for sure that here is Jersey many of these Audi delars give free diagnostic and very cheap oil change also discount on service (I found one that give 20 percent off), you probably would get better help if you know some of these information.
I got audi a5 3.0tdi with 200k miles, but I do maintenance by myself mostly,because they are money pits.
Buy one on Copart swap engine, you keep yours and wrecked one goes back to Copart with your engine
I genuinely need to learn copart because that’s an awesome idea
Good video. You said you got out of the car business what do you do for work now?
That’s why I never take it to dealers they really just try to sell you extra things
Yup. That kind of repair $$$ always follows the dealerships and many shops, because they just assume, "This guy can afford a really nice Audi, he's not even going to question our 'diagnosis' and just swipe his credit card. I really hate how all these shops do that to clients. There ARE few shops that actually tell you exactly what's wrong with car in the diagnosis and how they arrived at that conclusion.
How much did you pay for it?
why didn't you made noticed to audi that the car was only been mainteined by them? i think you could have been get warranty out of it......
I would go motor swap, you'll struggle to find a good/trustworthy place to rebuild the engine . Also you can sell the good parts on the old engine to get some money back
I did the motor swap! Working on an update video now as she’s driving beautifully. Reeeaaalllyyy wish I had read this before doing it because you’re right, I could’ve got a lot more out of the old engine than my $100 core charge!
I have a 2015 VW Passat TDI, 120 K miles, no issues, recall work was done for Dieselgate, I avg 48 mpg now
that said, this would have been my first red flag, it is illegal to run and register a TDI without Dieselgate warranty work done. so, I don't even know how you were able to buy and register this VIN, oh yeah, I lived in MD for 22 years, am very familiar with MD DMV, and something shady had to go on to ever transfer title, get a used engine, and find a European Diesel engine expert!
Drop new used engine man and give this car more life span, she is a beauty.
I mean I would after spending all this moneys and I love these A7 they are gorgeous.
In progress! I couldn’t give up on her - will do a new video soon when the engine is in, planning to take advantage of the fall weather and spend some time doing paint correction and detail too!
Just find a individual shop to fix it, this car is a legend, like honestly, you don’t find one of these so often, and by the way as an a6 owner of this era, Audi USA all of these dealership no matter where you go are jerks, don’t let their attitude scare you away, I’m sure there is a cheaper way to fix the issue.
That’s exactly what I did. It was cheaper to put a used motor in it than to pull this one out and tear into it. Will cost about 5k all said and done but could be much worse and honestly, not too upset by it! Only 100k on the engine now so that’s good 😅
Love your passion 😍 So sorry this happened to you. Your very cute 😊
Toyota has entered the chat 😊
So my guess is this tdi engine types are super damn reliable
i just checked and used engines with low miles are pretty cheap from 2k to 3500 dollar
I went with a 100k mile engine, $2850, another $300 for 6 months parts and labor warranty
perfect @@danielcars367
What price you buy it for?
Sucks that you never saw a CEL
I bought a rosstech obd2 tool and checking the codes the same way an independent shop would is the first thing I do
Tbh, even if I scanned and for a history code for the oil pump, I would’ve assumed since it wasn’t actively throwing a code it wouldn’t have been something to worry about. In retrospect, I definitely heard a little chatter, but engine overall sounded and pulled healthy. I made a judgement call and was wrong and now I’m kinda buried in it, but honestly I enjoy the car so whatever 🤷♂️
did you pay more than $10,000.00
After paying to put an engine in it I sure did 😅
How much do you want for it. Vas is.
I'd daily it to failure. Get the most roi you can and then as you mentioned you can sell it to a Pick-n-Pull because if the body is clean the trans etc it should have some intrinsic value
How much is the a new motor?
I paid $5500 USD installed
Americans had no idea about how to deal with European diesel engines, unfortunately. If this scenario was in Europe you would have had much better outcomes.
How often the oil changes were done?
On the dealer maintenance schedule - so every 10k miles which is WAY too long imo. I’m doing every 6k, cheap insurance
Thats awesome!
Such a great powertrain.
Our Q5 has the same engine and well over 250k.
Still going strong.
The a7 (in my opinion) is vastly better looking inside and out.
Is one of this with 93k miles on it still worth buying? Or am i gonna go broke because of this car?
Definitely worth buying - my friend just bought one with 104k and has been driving it cross country. If you live in a state where you can get away with deleting it, the car becomes a lot more reliable (and efficient/faster). You might even still have warranty coverage audidiesellookup.com/
That all being said, and older European car probably isn’t the wisest thing to buy from an economic standpoint. You will absolutely do better with a Lexus product
@danielcars367 thanks for the info I live in minnesota so I will do my research on that
I have one of these 2017 tdi 3.0 272 bhp its at 82k very strong. However, the timing chain is rattling and its recently had a coolant leak,I had to replace the coolant control valve, water pump and egr valve, that reapir cost me 1.2k. As for the timing chain, that is a 3k job but im gonna leave it and sell it for the next owner to splash on this money pit 😂
Oh yeah I’d let that go too! 3k sounds like a good price for that job honestly. What country are you in?
@@danielcars367 England 🇬🇧
58k dollars for maintenance
How did it get Apple CarPlay? I have the same year and trim
I did it! That’s actually when I noticed the knocking noise. It’s kind of a long process, it involves using an SD card to update your MMI and unlock CarPlay, 12-15 didn’t have the hardware and 17+ had CarPlay from the factory enabled. 16 had hardware but no CarPlay. The files I used were found on the audi forums and I think the software was called “most incredible bash”
Honestly, the whole process was iffy at best and I’m a kind of technical guy. I think there’s people on the forums that will do it for you for like $50 or so.
Also, it’s wired CarPlay only
Nice looking Audi, I have the A6 in Daytona Grey great cars just the interior gets boring pretty fast
I totally agree - the interior is fine but it's just missing something exciting!
Personally, considering the meticolous service history and the fact that someone actually taken care of this car I'd put the used, revision engine if you have a good service who take care of it. But it also depends on your feelings towards the car. After all, it's modern Audi so the engine will be the least problematic element in this puzzle, the maintenance will not be cheap, however the fuel consumption can sweeten deal.
I’m leaning towards the engine strongly. I’m not even the kind of guy who keeps cars for years and years, but right now at least I love the car and the uniqueness. I’ve always loved diesel and this is a car that’ll just never exist in America again. Maintenance definitely won’t be cheap (we can see what the previous owner had to spend there!) but I knew that going into it and I imagine any future owners of this car will too!
@@danielcars367 It's really interesting to see different approach depending on the place we are. In Europe, especially the Eastern part, diesels are still common thing as well as old Audis. That's why I don't have such feelings towards this car. However aesthetically first generation A7 is one of the sleekest designs in last years. Hope it'll not end up as parts donor and the mileage will keep rising soon.
@@JeremiBulakowski Totally! If I could easily replace this car because diesel A7's were common, I would! But just not the case here - in fact theres so few that the TDI Audi/VW models are still selling for quite the premium over there gas counterparts
This is not to say that I'm some huge diesel guy. I think they both have their pros and cons. Most of my cars are gas and will continue to be, but the torque and fuel economy of these 3.0 VW TDI's are incredible! I think it's a shame that regulations are tightening down on them. I know the EU is as well and I'm pretty sure I read the other day VW is planning to phase out diesel worldwide over the next few years as well.
Man, it is completely your fault, I am sorry, you just do not buy a 346 Miles car.. end of the story. You will only bleed your wallet out every month..
And anyway if you said you bought " A million " cars, you should be one of those people going around with a laptop and a VCDS scanner installed whenever you go buy something.. and don't be mad that you found incompetent people before. Never trust random mechanics that you do not know personally, there is 1 good mechanic out of 10.
Oh yeah, I'm not denying that at all. At the end of the day theres a bunch of steps I could've taken to prevent this situation, but realistically, I wanted the car and thought it was cool that it had unbelievably high mileage. In fact, I still do which is why I'm probably going to fix it
Mechanics though? Oof. I'm not sure if it's because of the tech shortage or what, but even the mechanics I know and trust (which don't want anything to do with diesel anything) are super lazy these days with diagnostics. Maybe its because I live in a smaller part of the country, but it's a huge issue that I dealt with while I was in the car industry, and one I'm still facing.
Also - maybe a million was an exaggeration, but I bought easily hundreds through the lane at manheim! Private party is a kind of new thing for me though
Buy a low mile engine. Pay an independent shop to install new timing set and install ... and you're good
Honestly man, to save the diagnostic fees, I have a scanner that checks for issues… it’s the best investment ever
You can see its been looked after.
If the engine is toast 100% then a used motor would be the best choice by far if you really like the car and don't want to scrap it.
'Merica fuck yeah
fuck yeah!!
If you take a moment to do the "Math" on this... The original owner spent ~$1,600 per MONTH on this car for 7 years. That's including the $77k MSRP + $58kin maintenance. This does NOT include any interest if the car was financed. My house is $1,200/month... WOW!
$58k on receipt is crazy, my Toyota Caldina will do the same kms and cost 5k at the worst
subscribed just to see what you decided
That’s why it’s better to spend more money and have less mileage, instead of taking a big risk. Why did you decide to buy it in first place? Was it very cheap?
Anyway - I hope you will enjoy it afterwards :)
I paid $10k for the car, which for a running/driving facelift A7 TDI was great, I could part it for more than that. At 15k with a new engine though? Yeah I could of done better for that 😅
Still happy, still a super nice, well taken care of car! And I’m just weird, I love the fact it has miles on it. If it was 40k I’d just be “meh” about it
Buy a low mileage used motor and have a shop, not Audi throw it in. I’ve done it with 3 of my previously owned cars. I own a high mileage Audi and I’m not comparing my Honda to it, but my Honda has over 500k on it with a used motor I thrown in it. Don’t let that car go , hope you get what it needs.
I did! I posted an update video but yes - she’s still going strong! I couldn’t let such a unique story die
Is Audi USA willing to provide some warranty or good will towards a new/used engine? If someone has spent 60k with them (admittedly not you) you would think they would stand by the product.
Dealerships also warranty their work, if you are able to pin the blame on the person who did the last oil change/service then that could get it covered. I have a hard time believing that this is just occurring now, it's done 350k miles and it decides to let go as soon as you buy it. There MUST be some kind of connection with that last oil change.
That's what I thought! The guy drives it everyday - no problem. I offer to get the car shipped to me before deciding to go up there and get it, and he offered to drive it down. No issues at all. Audi dealer does an oil change three days before I pick it up and 1,000 miles later I need an engine.
Unreal. I ultimately decided it wasn't worth paying to ship a knocking car back to Maryland and having to burden the previous owner with everything. Used engine with 100k miles and a 6 months parts and labor warranty for $3350, labor $1600. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. New video on the car soon hopefully!
@@danielcars367 Something has to have gone wrong with that oil change. The chunks in the oil pan didn't look like they had been building up for a while. If I were you I would be in contact with the Audi dealer that last did the oil change and asking them what, if anything, has gone wrong before it's too late. It never hurts to ask.
🎉drop in a 2.5
So the original driver was just polluting the air
Is a shame that happened. Put a new engine and enjoy it. Good luck 👍🏻
That's the plan!
Geez bro do you ignore curbs? 😂
Hahahaha they were like that when I bought it 😬 I was told it’s just what happens living in DC. Going to practice some wheel repair when it gets nicer outside!
Felt him when it came to the diagnostics. It is very annoying by and disappointing. People at shops will have you there thinking they’re checking everything out and whole time they’re not doing everything that they could. Then charge you a buttt amount of money
Since its high mileage my guess is under 20k he bought it
Put a used motor on it, 100% the right choice for me
For me as well
Owning any car nowadays sucks. Workshops are shit. Nobody can fix and nobody want to fix!
Used motor from a written off a7 is the way forward bud👍
Bro bought a car with over a quarter million and mad he dealing with issues 😂😂
He ain't mad about dealing with issues. He is mad about lazy/useless service from the repair shops that just rip off money from u, without even checking the damn car.
10 grand for a engine my god
In the world what, come to balkans my friend, they sell here with 500 000km, there are models with 800 000+ on the clock....
That’s my bad 😬 here in the US no one maintains their cars, and honestly there’s very few mechanics who can actually properly work on these cars, and even if you find them the labor cost is insane. So rare to see a euro car in the 300s here!
I'm amused how americans react to this mileage. Many cars especially 90s in europe have 350k miles and even 650k. My dads audi 100 1993 had 1.54m km/939k miles and still ran fine
Yeah, we definitely throw away cars here. Honestly now that I’m thinking about it, we throw away everything. Not really a huge repair culture! I mean if I was in Europe I’m sure I could find someone to repair the timing chains on this car and keep driving it, over here? Good luck finding someone who can do that job. Even if you did, it would be extremely cost prohibitive.
From someone who has spend their entire life driving around in high mileage 90s cars just because I like them, it’s way more believable for one of those to make it to 350 than for a modern Audi. Tighter emissions, crazy engineered engines with super tight tolerances, variable valve timing, and all the other electrics all around the car.
A good used motor for sure 👍
get a used motor and do an egr delete and a dpf delete after that do a remap to the engine and gearbox and you can enjoy a fast torque monster reliable fuel efficient luxurious audi
Used motor in progress and update hopefully coming soon. Deleting this thing is a huge temptation! We don’t have any emissions testing where I’m at anyways. Would be super fun to document it and feel the before and after!
@@danielcars367 that’s great news about the emissions testing i can’t wait for the next videos I’m from morocco and we get the European spec with less emissions restrictions from the dealer and trust me when i tell you if you get the bi turbo engine and do the delete with a European remap specialist you will have the most reliable and fastest a7 TDI IN THE USA
@@danielcars367 i love the content by the way keep up the good work
That sucks. It had to be something wrong with that car smh..
58k in service.... sounds like 5 oil changes and 2 new headlights!
Im pretty sure is not the highest mileage car … in Europe is really common tdi a7 😆
literally
345k miles is 555k km, you don't see many a7s with this mileage...
Nice video bro, it's sad people work so hard for there money and save just to find out these million dollar CO. try n get are trying to get more out of you.
why not fix it with a real independent mechanic?
That’s what I ended up doing - engine replaced with a used one. Not exactly a lot of independent mechanics around me who want to tear deep into a diesel Audi engine!
Dealers are trash. I wish I could open a dealership and make customer service number one priority. pretty sure I would be rich.
New motor, then sell it
Cool story
Bro pls don’t send that car overseas or to a junk yard pls. If you don’t want it we can talk. Like this comment if you want to talk.
DAMN i thougt mine had a lot [ 255k ]
Buy a car for 350k mileage that’s what happens man lol
True but for some reason I’m about the clapped out shitbox life
Sounds like a dairy farmer to me
Sorry. But tear it down and sell the parts.
It’s a really beautiful car.
I believe this is by far the logical solution. Definitely the only path to profit left on this thing
@@danielcars367 I think it is. Sad, but true. Also, maybe it consumes a lot of time. If your time is more valuable, maybe you sell it as it is and go on with your life.
i can tell thats a small problem , some sensor issue , in america the mechanics are dumb for an european car , here in europe we fixing cars like that on my own garage ! Make a video abouth whats the issue or what you see , we can tell what is the problem!
Man I wish I was in Europe! It would be a whole different story I know
I ended up putting a used motor in it, trying to do an update video now. It was knocking when cold, and making a pretty profound noise especially when coming off the gas. There was a stored code for oil pressure and after pulling the pan there was metal in the engine.
No idea what happened but I’m guessing lack of oil pressure chewed up a bearing