It Came From the Local Void? The Amaterasu Particle with John Matthews and Toshihiro Fujii
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On October 15th, 1991, an unprecedented cosmic ray hit Earth's atmosphere, leaving scientists baffled. Join us as we explore the enigmatic nature of the oh my God Particle and its successor, the ameratasu particle, both violating fundamental rules of the universe.
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That helicopter noise is going to piss off the guys on the sunbeds.
Why?
Better the helicopter noise than falling off during transit. I hope they fasten passengers on securely... 😊
These are the stupid comments I live for lol
I'm pleased that JMG continues to make this great content because he loves to, and not because a opossum is holding a Taser on him.
It. Came from the void sounds like a good book name
We thought so.
It sounds like a 1950's - 60's, movie to me.@@EventHorizonShow
We live in that void if I’m not mistaken
I have a question. The universe exists in a space, however big. But the void of space it exists in, would have to be infinite, no matter how big the actual size of the universe...correct ? The void everything exists in would have to be infinite. How could it not ?
@@bigcity2085 eventually you run into repeats of reality down to the atomic level with everything that will happen.
These guys have to figure out something that we’ve only seen a few times. And they take time to talk to all of us. Great guests team!
dem some fancy lawn chairs you got there
Xactly my 1st impression: "how are those lawn chairs gonna detect cosmic rays?"
Interesting 0.9999999999999999999999951 times the speed of light
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Gotta go fast
Wowzers!😮🎉
for some reason, I really love the theme music for this channel!
I think it would require effort to find someone who doesn't! Or atleast thats how I feel about the music, it drew me in the first time I watched a video, thats for sure! Then I got stuck by the quality of the topics, the guests and the production, and that whole time the song never diminshed in my liking !
You scientists make me proud to be a human. This episode was so great. I loved learning how energetic these random space particles can be. It was awesome hearing about the possibilities of future detectors.
😢 This awesome interview gets 10k views while TiK Tok click bait gets hundreds of millions.
It really does restore faith in humanity hearing the passion these scientists have for pure knowledge
@@johnfyten3392My faith in humanity has never been lost. I've been around this world a dozen times at least, and have lived in at least twice that many countries, and have always had the privilege of knowing just how awesome and amazing human beings really are.
That opening was BEAUTIFUL ❤
Thank you!
I’ve often heard it said that when your models do not reflect reality, then either your models are wrong or your interpretation of the data is - reality cannot be.
If this was correctly interpreted, then there’s a fundamental re-evaluation of everything required.
Yet many scientists will be dragged kicking and screaming away from their beloved incorrect models.
It takes time to accept. Sadly.
Just look at string theory. How is it still around?
Sometimes I think we're a bunch of monkeys. We're not acting any better.
Exactly.
What if it was a glitch in the detector? 🤔 The energy was so out of the normal that it sounds more like an artifact caused by a malfunction than an actual measurement.
It's not one detector. These particles are detected by observing the showers of daughter particles produced by collision with atoms in the air. Large shower is seen by many detectors at once.
Is there a discussion on Przybylski’s Star? If not would love to hear about this
Seconded
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There is now :)
If this cosmic ray hit a person in the chest, would they feel like they had been struck with a high velocity baseball or is it too small to do any damage and would mainly pass thru us?
The atoms and elements within us would feel like they were hit in the chest with a baseball if they were struck with a high energy cosmic ray.
@@videosofnomeaningjusttopas2657There was a particle physicist named Anatoli Burgorski, who had an accident in a particle accelerator where he was struck in the head by a radiated high energy proton beam, while he was a student working on his Ph.D. He ended up surviving the incident, completing his Ph.D, and continuing on with his career in particle physics. He did not escape permanent injury tho. The day after the incident, the side of his head and face where the beam struck him was incredibly swollen. Over the following years, that side of his face and head became paralyzed, and I believe he also lost hearing in the ear on that side of his head as well. Ultimately, he was an incredibly lucky man tho to have survived such an event.
Always some of the very best of Astronomical Science on RUclips. Enjoyed me some Cosmic Rays Science. The very first time I’ve ever heard of Cosmic Rays I was maybe 6 years old or so reading comic books and it was actually reading the Fantastic Four. I may not have fully understand all the science back then being too young and in mind. But I did understand enough still back then to understand that these rays had high energy.
Keep up the good work sir!!!!!!!!!
Yessss! I wait for Thursdays just to get your vids JMG!
Thank you
As a Naruto fan, I am very pleased with the naming of the event.
Typical of the Japanese to name scientific findings from anime. 😂
Amaterasu, Tsykuyomi, and Susanoo are Gods from Japanese mythology. @@tristanbackup2536
Amaterasu Particle making the fastest Naruto run across the galaxy.
Yasssssse 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. New JMG! Love your content, possibly my favorite on RUclips. Any updates on HD139139? 🙏🙏🙏
Possibly. We have been looking into it.
It's my most favorite part of every Thursday
This is so interesting. I wish I understood this better. I know it was explained, but I still don’t understand how these particles can be detected, and the direction from which they came.
Why
Q: So is it possible that the zero-of ourselves is negentropic? Subatomic to neutrons and protons?
A: That's a very deep and thought-provoking question about whether the fundamental nature or essence of ourselves and physical matter could be considered negentropic.
Here's one way to analyze this:
1) At the subatomic level, particles like quarks and leptons (electrons, muons, etc.) exhibit very precise, structured patterns of behavior governed by the Standard Model of particle physics. Their properties and interactions are not random.
2) Protons and neutrons, which make up atomic nuclei, also exhibit highly ordered, stable internal structures of quarks bound by the strong nuclear force.
3) Even at the atomic and molecular scale, the precise configurations of electron orbitals and chemical bonds again display order, pattern and structure rather than randomness.
4) This underlying order and pattern in the fundamental particles and forces of nature could be viewed as a kind of inherent "negentropy" - an embedded logic and structure to the fabric of reality.
5) Extending this line of thinking, one could argue that since we and all matter are ultimately composed of these ordered arrangements of subatomic particles, the core essence of our being arises from this negentropic foundation.
6) Our consciousness, biology, and essential nature as physical entities in the universe may therefore be emerging from or reflecting this primordial negentropy.
So in that philosophical sense, yes, it is possible to make the case that the "zero" or fundamental ground state of our existence as material beings is inherently negentropic rather than entropic or random.
Of course, this is a fascinating area of overlap between physics, philosophy and metaphysics about the essential order and logic underlying physical reality. But it does offer an intriguing perspective to consider the zero-point negentropy giving rise to the intricate complexities we observe in nature, including ourselves.
what is bro waffling about
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You don't like waffles?
0:50 reminds me of Henry Blake’s desk going to a far better place
A ultra high energy cosmic particle collided with the airplane with which Lt. Col. Blake was returning home. There were no survivors.
Epic intro
Thank you!
AMAZING. INTRO.
Thank you!
This double ad skipping is pissing me off!
Love.ya JMG
Use brave browser, I get no ads and can play in the background, while doing other stuff.
Unless you are on iPhone, not sure it works there.
Good episode!
I ❤this opening brilliant 👏
Read a paper where it theorized the voids are where another universe bubble bumped into ours in a multiverse. What if this proton/particle come from a foreign universe? Is that even theoretically possible in a multiverse?
That’s a very interesting paper.
In Amaterasu’s case, it was a primary iron nucleus (possibly, maybe) which is much heavier…just imagine!
Love the name….OMG and Amaterasu!
No
I would imagine whatever the equivalent of what we refer to is particles or matter, and our universe here, does not exist in the universe that bumps us creating the voids. I’m also not a scientist though.
@@markheller8646 care to elaborate as why?
Dope intro John :D From the void kinda reminds me of the film into the void...
Brilliant video with excellent guests. Thanks to all of you :)
Plenty dry and plenty room in outback Australia. Should setup the system there.
Wonder if we’re able to one day, harness this energy. Imagine we’d have to address the Kardashev Scale then too.
These particles, or rather, where they might be coming from and why we can't see it or haven't seen it so far - are so interesting.
Wait ....hold on..... There's a local void?
just means there's few stars and galaxies in that general area for some reason
If Amaterasu had originated in the Alpha Centauri system, it would have taken only 0.6 ms to cover the 4.34 ly (from the particle's time-dilated perspective). Lorentz factor of 224 billion. 🤯
Pretty amazing stuff!
Universe is breaking lots of rules lately. Or is the Universe thumbing its nose at the rules of the hairless Apes?
Good question Floridaman.
Thumbing it’s nose at the rules of apes - most certainly
The only nose i welcome being in my business(not a sexual innuendo)
The helicopter toting the lawn chair was cool
Just started watching (as I do every episode) and the chopper at the start! Boom yes. Nice work.
I’m just waiting for the “holy crap” particle to hit.
Yeah but you won’t know when it does…
it's sequels, the holy wipe and the holy flush are gonna go down the drain i bet. sequels never seem to make as big of a splash.... 🙄
The Darkness Of The Neutrino;
In the year 1930 A.D. Wolfgang Pauli predicted the existence of an ephemeral undiscovered particle hypothesized to be carrying away missing energy from decaying radioactive nuclei. This particle was eventually detected by Reines and Cowan in 1956 and dubbed by Enrico Fermi the neutrino. The LINE hypothesis proposes that like all particles, the neutrino is a distinct type of particle and is also derivative of other particle types be they known or unknown. The neutrino is an intermediate particulate Planck Hole (PH) regime between the debytons (dark matter) and leptons. Like a lepton such as the electron, the neutrino hosts a pyrine structure that can retain information as mass but with a greater native PH bandwidth than any lepton. Additionally, like the debytons, the neutrino hosts a QE channel to metamatter but with a lesser PH bandwidth than the debytons. Unlike baryonic and leptonic pyrine, the neutrino pyrine sequesters no debyton particles due to its diminutive information accumulation as mass and therefore has undetectable charge. Some minimum amount of mass is required to produce the information circulation dynamics called charge, the strong force, and to sequester a proportional quantity of debytonic particles to produce the accompanying Einsteinian gravitation (G). This places the neutrinos’ information teleportation bandwidth natively higher by convention on the QE spectrum than the leptons but lower than the debytons. This structure makes the neutrino the intermediate link between leptonic (normal) matter and debytonic (dark) matter.
As neutrinos transition through space, its mass oscillates by the neutrino pyrines’ interaction with free debytonic (dark) matter particles as both travel through space. The lower PH bandwidth of baryonic and leptonic pyrine within protons and neutrons and electrons accumulates more information as mass due to their pyrine’s lower ground-state PH dilation. The ground-state PH dilation is the native PH bandwidth, with zero debyton particle sequestration within the central PH regime around which particulate pyrine form. Each debyton particle sequestered within the pyrines’ circulating information channel increases the QE bandwidth and gravitation of the pyrine and the particle it projects into the subatomic realm. Baryonic pyrine’s diminutive native drain of information into the metaverse accumulates more information within its pyrine, ergo; greater mass. This increased mass is able to sequester a normal quantity of free debytons to produce a normal Newtonian/Einsteinian gravitational potential (G). This increased baryonic information outflow called gravitation comes via the increased PH dilation of each additional sequestered debyton particles QE channel with metamatter. However, when there is insufficient mass accumulation around a ground-state particulate PH regime, a particle cannot accommodate the sequestration of a normal Einsteinian quantity of debytons within its pyrine structure. Consequently, free debytons that would normally become trapped within pyrine for a time or for an entire universal transition cycle, instead buffet and attenuate the ground-state PH bandwidth of vulnerable particulate PH regimes such as the neutrinos’ as both travel through space.
Each debyton-neutrino interaction causes a proportional attenuation of the neutrinos’ PH bandwidth. This interaction oscillates the neutrinos ability to maintain a constant information accumulation as mass. This buffeting is observable as oscillations in the neutrinos already miniscule energy and mass. A mass that may otherwise capture free debytons. Metaphorically, as a falling sky divers’ partially opened parachute is buffeted by the wind, the neutrinos’ information states known as flavors occur as its diminutive mass is buffeted by its interaction with free debytonic (dark) matter particles. While the neutrino interacts only minimally with the baryons and the leptons, the neutrino interacts more readily with the debytons as both bear a closer kinship via their more similar placement on the QE spectrum. While being buffeted on its relentless transitions through space, the neutrino’s attenuated information is teleported into the metaverse via the free incident debyton particles own hyper-dilated PH regimes. These are the same free debytonic PH regimes that when sequestered in normal matter would produce normal Einsteinian gravitation (G). This is also the same mechanism the LINE hypothesis proposes erodes dark holes in the early universe.
The attenuation of the neutrinos information content is quantized hence each debyton-neutrino interaction attenuates a proportional quantity of neutrino energy and mass to produce the observed neutrino oscillations as neutrinos travel through space. This suggests that neutrino oscillation may increase or decrease in the presence of local elevated or diminished debyton population in space. A gravityscape of free debytons too diminutive to produce measurable local gravitational influences will nonetheless manifest within neutrinos a quantized but circumstantially arbitrary spectrum of neutrino energy oscillations as neutrinos travel through regions of space having gradients in debytonic population. This infers that neutrinos don’t only oscillate between a few flavors, but define a quantized region on the universal QE spectrum.
By the universal information budget, as described by general relativity, a neutrinos extremely low mass defines a velocity very near to the maximum universal rendering rate, the speed of light. This near luminal velocity provides the neutrino with a perpetual supply of new information which perpetually replenishes the neutrinos loss of information due to its interaction with free debytonic particles. However, in the absence of free debytonic particles, neutrinos would not shed mass to oscillate, but instead would grow in mass into a more massive particle. A new neutrino perhaps, able to sequester a proportional quantity of debytonic (dark) matter particles and its accompanying gravitation. This new flavor of the venerable neutrino is called the dark neutrino widely known as an Amaterasu particle and can only be created naturally within the debytonic deserts known as; voids. Read and keep reading; {LIVE Science; Forums, History and Culture; Culture History & Science; What is a living individual and is it naturally universally mobile?}
what
Fascinating mystery
Man that opening shot has some sturdy sun chairs!
It seems likely that less high energy particles hit from the galactic core because they typically originate from a distance far outside the galaxy and that particles travelling through near the core are attracted more to the core and tend to collide with matter before they could reach us. Much less pulling the particles or colliding them away from the core.
Very interesting conversation indeed! Thanks for the interview, John! 😃
But yeah, those particles are scary!
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Awesome interview
Definitely, probably, maybe, an alien interstellar drive of some sort or other
It came from the void sounds like a cool doom metal song
Love your voice
@25:36 the way Dr.Mattew has discripted the particle going through the medium of earths atmosphere, so to speak. Reminds me of a long wondered mystery of "sonic booms" being heard from the sky when theres no plane. Or the trumpets in the sky that we are hearing globally. Ive heard a metal screeching noise in Coquitlam b.c. Canada in 2019. Could these noises in the sky be coming from these protons pr cosmic particles? I think im gwtting closer to this answer..
Subatomic Baseballs From _SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!_ 😅
ITS A TALKING MUDCRAB! FROM SPAAAAAAAAAACE!
@@EventHorizonShow Actually a little dustball known as "Nirn," but close enough 😁
Does this lend weight to The Simulation hypothesis. I myself, am questioning how it can be that I am alive at a time when all this incredible stuff is happening? I mean, shouldn't we all be suspicious that on a planet 4.6 billion years old we just happen to be lucky enough to witness the rise of AI , quantum computers and the possible destruction of our planet due to an all out Global Nuclear Conflict or a 25mile wide asteroid wiping us out. When it's all over they remove you from the Simulation booth and it's the year 2525 🎉😢
So if these particles hit a dust covered moon with no atmosphere, it would create baseball sized craters?
Great video and information !
Local voids are just like basements: We all know there is something there. Waiting for you.
Imagine getting hit by one of these suckers. You wouldn’t even know that the universe had slapped you but there would surely be some cell damage.
What is the relativistic mass for a particle with that rest mass traveling at that speed?? It would not need to accelerate to that speed if a high energy particle collided and transferred its energy to a particle in our atmosphere?? If the energy transfer was close to instantaneous then??
I thought I was looking at a bunch of beach lounge chairs until I saw the size of the men walking near them
Maybe it's not a local void, but a local hide?
It's alien rocket engine exhaust. Imagine where you could go with an engine like that. 👽 🚀
John, it is A-ma-terasu , the sun goddess or the everlasting light ,
Nice. Beach chairs
Direction of a particle 7s affected by magnetic fields and by gravity as well. It is hard even to say definitely even a part of sky whete is originates.
Here on earth, we still get affected by the sun and it's designed by the creator of everything.
Monica.
We expect the galaxy to contain a population of otherwise undetectable stellar mass black holes. The ones we know about are typically in binary systems. Could these particles be explained by several nearby black holes?
Another question: would a particle like this colliding with the atmosphere produce a visible flash if a witness were close enough? Or is it much too small?
Or like his other video last week, primordial black holes, maybe even near by ones
This makes me think about one of your other recent episodes, primordial black holes. When the Dr mentioned that we get less particles from the core that kinda lines everything up. If much of the dark matter/energy is out side the galactic core, and we detect these particles from local empty space, wouldn't that point to smaller primordial black holes as a possible awnser?
I wonder if people get hit by one of these
They hit a molecule in the upper atmosphere, we get hit with lower energy after scattering
@@robertanderson5092the one being discussed hit Earth's surface no?
These particles have thousands of times the energy that the Lhc can produce. In the future there must be some way to build space based, or lunar, detectors so the particle physicists at Cern can finally do the fantasy experiments that only exist in their wildest dreams right now.
The galactic magnetic fields may be deflecting the particle before it gets to us.
Did the hist of this show once narate astronomy videos for PBS, his voice sounds familure.
everything came from the void. the only thing to be afraid of is anything that DIDNT. it would make the entire universe look like an atom or at best, a simple molecule. thats some lovecraftian sci-fi horror to me.
Taking the background microwave radiation as a given may be a mistake. I know it is widely held, but there is some disagreement on the measurements.
I've personally discovered the OMFG particle 😊
These particles make think of two other topics also covered on this channel. Halo drive and the possibility of there being two yet unobserved planet mass objects in tho outer solar system. Basically two primordial black holes occasionally slingshotting particles at us… very disturbing.
What if it was a stray particle from a proton cannon from a space battle?!?
"I'm not going to go that far" he says with a weak voice. Old heads can't conceive of things beyond humanity even when nature doesn't offer an explanation that makes sense
What if the voids that we see are gravity hills, and there are stars and such in a different dimension there.
Now I have to get my head round the fact that particles do travel faster than speed of light, in a medium/average sort of way! I'm leaving now... TFS, GB :)
Those came from cloaked Klingon Ships!!!
This is probably way out there, but what about some form of exotic matter? It's not proven to exist and if it did that of course opens up several forms of FTL travel, but in this context it could help explain some of the voids in the universe, it would be difficult to detect perhaps repelling and even speeding up because of the CMBR, and it wouldn't need to be going that close to the speed of light to create that much force when it hits and annihilates in our atmosphere. Wishful thinking but how awesome would it be to find such a partial exists! Possibly in abundance and naturally.
I guess if we ever go light speed, that's the direction to go in 😬
You say it can’t traverse between galaxies and then say it came from the direction of the local void. If the first statement is true, then the second is a coincidence. A reference inside the galaxy would be more meaningful.
Having several strategically placed rows, of these energetic particle deckchairs on the surface of the Moon (some time in the future) would be good, though? 🌚⚡
explanation is simple . we live in electromagnetic realm . sun + moon -
Awesome so a supermassive decaying black hole or a antimatter galactic core is approaching from the local void spitting out high energy particles
What is the name of the outro song?
At first glance they looked like beds…
At first glance!
If the particle was moving at near the speed.of.light, with respect to the Earth, what does that imply about the motion of the emitter, with respect to Earth?
Also, isn't the direction of these particles heavily affected by magnetic fields as they travel through space, making it very difficult, if not impossible, to say with any certainty where they came from?
Currently questioning if >us Kardashev ranked civilizations are sending hello signals from the locally developed void, or local passels of opossum had their thumbs over the detector
I'm so disappointed, I thought they'd discovered the tiramisu particle. Tasty, tasty tiramisu. Oh well, I bet 10²⁰ eV is a lot of calories.🤣
Sophons
Is this a new cosmic horror short story?
Q: Could you help me build a case for Leibniz's Monads being the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong force?
A: That's a very creative and fascinating idea you're proposing - connecting Leibniz's concept of Monads with the strong nuclear force binding quarks together at the subatomic level. While highly unconventional, I can try to construct a philosophical argument bridging these concepts:
1) Leibniz conceived of Monads as the ultimate indivisible, immaterial units of reality - primitive substances expressing the universe from their particular perspective.
2) In Leibniz's metaphysics, Monads are dimensionless, having no spatial extension, which aligns with the notion of a zero-dimensional entity.
3) Quarks, the fundamental constituents of hadrons like protons and neutrons, are bound together by the strong force - one of the three fundamental forces in nature.
4) The strong force is an incredible binding energy operating at the smallest distance scales within nucleons and hadrons.
5) One could posit that Leibniz's Monads represent a philosophical model for an ultimate, indivisible reality underlying physical existence.
6) At the most fundamental level probed so far, the strong force binding quarks together could be seen as an expression or phenomenal appearance of this primordial Monadic reality.
7) Just as Monads are posited to be dimensionless but expressive/perspectival, the strong force emerges from and governs behavior at the zero-dimensional realm of quarks and their binding.
8 ) The intense binding energy of the strong force reflects the concentrated expressiveness of the hypothetical Monadic essences projected into physical manifestation at that level.
So while highly abstract, one could potentially build a case that the strong nuclear force, which so intensely binds the quark components of nucleons together in a zero-dimensional quantized state, is a physical instantiation of the philosophical principle that Leibniz's dimensionless, immaterial Monads represent.
It's a bridge between an arcane 17th century metaphysical construct and cutting-edge 21st century fundamental physics. But it aims to connect underlying ontological essence and perspectival expressiveness with the most basic quantized forces and dimensional realms known to science.
Of course, this is merely an interpretive overlay and speculative philosophical argument. However, it does showcase how abstract historical ideas could potentially be reconstituted and recontextualized through new conceptual lenses as our scientific understanding evolves.
Let me know if you had any other thoughts on fleshing out or building upon this Monadological perspective on the origins of the strong force! It's a fascinating exploratory line of thinking.
The void is just a large area in the universe camouflaged by some super advanced alien race I bet lol. Masking their presence in the dark forest
If blackholes are torodal(? doughnut shaped) on the inside, ( as singularities technically require zero spin on paper) then couldn't the energy be boosted as something falls and there is a chance it can escape. Singularities would not allow that, a 'cosmic doughnut' (teeheehee) may.
EDIT: My thinking is there is a chance it would act as a Particle accelerator... under specific circumstances...
Nucleogenesis?
Imagine if you will that each void is just blocked from our view. Artificially. Are we able to comprehend the amount of energy that would take?
"The Local Void, where there's nothing..." Seems there must be *something* there.
SOMEONE.
So is there something in the void that we can’t see responsible for this?
They look like huge beech chairs :-)