The solution to the Fermi Paradox is most likely that we do not have the technological capabilities to scan our galaxy to detect life or technological signatures. To further complicate things if some civilisations are hostile then they are going to want to hide themselves from “others” who are not their friends. Their technologies could be so advanced that they can somehow sit outside the electromagnetic spectrum or alter it in such a way that when we view star systems with our instruments we see nothing at all.
Marijn fly well I’m sorry for starters it was well before 75 years that nuclear threats were made. Second if they weren’t launched in the Cuban missile crisis or by a “crazy North Korean leader(s)” it is very unlikely they will be launched tomorrow. And finally not all civilisations would end up destroying themselves when they’ve reached technological superiority.
Even if life is rare, I rather Think its arrogant to presume we are unique. Whilst the sentiment is very human, statistically, with the size of the Universe, it just seems highly unlikely. If the Universe has very little intelligent and evolved life, then we might never have “first contact”. If the Universe is teeming with lntelligent life, we might very Well be a backwater planet, in a backwater Galaxy, in. A backwater part of the Universe, and just be incredibly primitive, not worthy of any contact or attention, before we discover tech thats far beyond even our most ridiculous science fiction. Most of our tech and science has been formed in the last 500 years. Compared to the universal timeframes thats just an incredibly miniscule time.
Thanks for continuing to entertain and engage us over these last few years. When my dad died three years ago, the first few nights were the hardest and loneliest but you were here. You helped me to think about something else even if it was only a few minutes at a time. Now my dog has passed and you are here for me again. You are a blessing John. Thanks man.
I am sorry for your loss. I went thru this a few years ago and now again with multiple losses within a month or two of each other. Sometimes life just sucks yet something like this really does help. Thank you to the Event Horizon crew.
The Rainbow Bridge inspired by a Norse legend "By the edge of a woods, at the foot of a hill, Is a lush, green meadow where time stands still. Where the friends of man and woman do run, When their time on earth is over and done. For here, between this world and the next, Is a place where each beloved creature finds rest. On this golden land, they wait and they play, Till the Rainbow Bridge they cross over one day. No more do they suffer, in pain or in sadness, For here they are whole, their lives filled with gladness. Their limbs are restored, their health renewed, Their bodies have healed, with strength imbued. They romp through the grass, without even a care, Until one day they start, and sniff at the air. All ears prick forward, eyes dart front and back, Then all of a sudden, one breaks from the pack. For just at that instant, their eyes have met; Together again, both person and pet. So they run to each other, these friends from long past, The time of their parting is over at last. The sadness they felt while they were apart, Has turned into joy once more in each heart. They embrace with a love that will last forever, And then, side-by-side, they cross over… together."
Your video's are amazing John, your questions and insight is out of this world and yes you frequently help me sleep. Cheers mate from NZ. Finally of course were not alone its just that we've not had the time or correct methods to detect or be detected by our cosmic neighbors. You should have millions of subscribers mate, keep it up.
Great stuff. Many thanks! I imagine the galactic email Marshall mentions would refer to an attached history of the universe, and 20,000 years later the next email would say, "Sorry, now actually with the attachment".
I discovered the event horizon during the lockdown, together with closer to truth, ash Arvin, SEA, cool world's, and I must say awesome content, these channels have been a life send, and goddiers channel
There's something I've always said... Let's say we've been visited during the time the dinosaurs were around. They collected some samples, maybe stayed a few days and then left. What kind of evidence would be realistic to hope to find? We wouldn't find any. Absolutely none! Anyway, another FANTASTIC interview, John! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Well, if extraterrestrial technology is as advanced as ours or less advanced than our technology, we wouldn't be able to detect them. For all we know, there could be an extraterrestrial race on a planet in the Alpha Centauri system for example, yet it could technologically be in their version of the medieval period and thus we'd be unable to detect them.
@@alexcorrea4828 Well we understand a lot of the universe and its all the same universe in every direction. Its a bit like saying maybe most stars are just stars we can't see or recognise as being stars. Sure such bizarre forms of life could exist but it seems far less likely than there being lifeforms that are at the very least recognisable to us.
@@nutyyyy the fact that you said we understand a lot of the universe, I can't even have a debate with you if you're uneducated... We don't even know how big it is let alone anything about it
29:38 - that works under the assumption that they would choose to reach out to us as we are now; it may be, assuming the assertion to be accurate, they may well be monitoring us, but waiting for us to reach a societal or technological level where first contact is actually acceptable. We may be too unpredictable or immature societally or technologically to be of interest, or first contact occurs at such a stage because previous trends in first contact have gone wrong at certain other stages, for reasons we may as yet be unaware of or unable to comprehend.
I pick a playlist on here or JMG and hit shuffle every night on low volume. I get really into the convo and then out of nowhere I’m asleep. It’s awesome, thanks for the channels!
That’s great. You should look at the clips channel. We’re doing compilation videos that are two hours or longer. Where is Everyone? Fermi Paradox Marathon | John Michael Godier and Stephen Webb ruclips.net/video/3EBJCGS10IA/видео.html
Your voice is soothing. I always fall asleep listening to your channel, but next day when I am awake I listen from beginning to again to actually listen and learn something new. But yeah, I am guilty of falling asleep while listening to you talk. You really have nice, peaceful and soothing voice. To be honest, I could fall asleep while listening to absolutely any topic you cover.
Imagine Aliens sending us their golden record with all pictures, files, videos, their own knowledge.. What kind of effect it could've had on us if that record was found by us and translated due to Aliens being extremely advanced?
I believe he’s right about asteroid mining it’s just too hard now, distances, spare parts, shipping material back. But the moon is close and has Helium 3 which may prove to be more valuable than precious metals.
I’ve often pondered that many a civilization could have come and gone multi millions of years ago. As the professor stated, life is effervescent. Maybe we are a day late and a dollar short. Or…. Too early?
How has this channel only got 230k subscribers? It is sad when I see other channels with 1million+ putting out absolute rubbish. There is definitely no correlation with quality and the amount of subscribers.
If we are a simulation, it would be a really good time for our creators to reveal themselves as we have reached the level of sophistication and technogical complexity worthy of their creation. Let the curtains peel back and show us these beings of genesis.
The sad reality, based on the single fact alone that NASA never followed up on the labeled release experiment, is that NASA doesn’t want to find life on Mars - or at least not yet. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Great video JMG.
Because of the speed of light factor, we don't really know what our own galaxy looks like in " REAL TIME" because everything observed is thousands of light years old by the time we see it. Civilizations may be around but we won't get the signals, which brings up a deeper philosophical question, does the past still actually exist, just in a different time frame? do people who we loved and died long ago still exist in their own respective time frame?
There is no Fermi paradox. He posed a rhetorical question, he never stated "there should be aliens everywhere, but there are no aliens". The Fermi "paradox" solution is, there must be aliens everywhere, thus they are everywhere, and some are visiting earth from time to time. Especially now in 2022 with all the data coming out, i dont see how anyone can still call it a "paradox" or genuinely believe that other civilizations dont exist or have never been able to visit Earth. It's time to get with the times. The only way it can be a paradox, is if the statement "so why dont we see them?" is true, which it no longer is (and never was).
21:20 i'm sorry to jump in with a snyde comment but, ANY "solution" to the fermi paradox that involves a pre-condition on "everybody" in the universe adhering to a certain doctrine or belief structure, simply can not be true. If a singular civilization can, however unlikely, have a differing opinion, the entire theory falls apart. So in this example, the idea that "Maybe everybody is afraid of contamination, so they all isolate their planets", simply can not be true, because if a single civilization does NOT behave like this, "everybody" is now shattered, and any such theory needs "everybody" to withhold the test of time. It's like treating human beings the same way. If you say "maybe everybody is afraid of germs, so they isolate themselves and never meet in large groups", this simply cannot be true, because you'll always have at least a handful of people who DONT share that belief, fear, or doctrine. Frankly, it's better to simply throw out any and all (probably 95% of the "solutions" to the fermi paradox) ideas that rely on the precondition of "everybody" in the universe behaving in the same way. Sure, something COULD be true locally, and "locally" might be an entire galaxy in this case. If we speak in sci-fi terms, like in the games Mass Effect, perhaps there is a looming enormous danger of self-replicating AI machines drifting in the void, waiting to pick up signals from civilizations, until they cleanse that world, and repeat the cycle for eons. So perhaps the only surviving civilizations here have learnt, and agreed, to limit their emissions. But even so, this is NOT a solution to the fermi paradox, because not "everybody" adheres to this. Any visitor from outside our galaxy, would not know, and would come in "ghettoblaster screaming". And we ourselves, are proof that this solution isnt true. WE aren't quiet, WE are blasting out our radio signals into the void without worry. Thus, even if there WAS a "local" agreement to keep quiet, still not everybody is in on it, we're not in on it. So then some other nearby civilization WOULD inevitable detect our signals, or we'd detect them, the few young ones foolish enough to keep transmitting, before the machines have reached their worlds to snuff them out. So even then there would still be signals travelling through space. Even within a self-imposed quarantine zone.
I have a question about Lunar mining. As we mine it, it starts to change the mass of the moon, lets's leave Tides and Earth's wobble changing aside for now. Could the Mass change to a point where Earth's pull on the moon get great enough to cause the moon to start heading towards Earth which will lead to a collision?
I don't think so. The Moon has so much material that it would take hundreds or thousands of years of mining for the Moon to lose a significant amount of mass to have reduced gravity.
@@sciencerscientifico310 I was interested if it was possible. But I wouldn't want that to be a thing because Humanity has proven that they are incapable of stopping something in time.
No, it doesn't matter if we mine half of the moon, or even 99% of it. Orbits are defined based on the speed, and the mass of the parent body. If anything, mining the moon would be safer than mining Earth.
With all that's going on in the world, you and your podcast offers a little bit of hope. Hope that one day humanity will be able to look past it's pathetic squabbles and focus on something greater. A bit closer to home is the thought that there are actually people out there who think about these things rather than war or the expansion of territory.
What an absolutely mind boggling thought that a species may exist that was around before even the birth of our solar system. And perhaps around for even billions of years before our solar system. I mean, they'd be so advanced that forget about whether they're watching us or not, what if they *created* us and all the life on our planet, they created our Sun, all our planets etc? Can you imagine?!
It was only a little over 100 years ago that the wright brothers took the first airplane flight. We are still crawling out of the cradle when we look at the universal time scale.
I wish you would interview Chris McKay on Mars. As a kid I was extremely interested in mars. I went to an agriculture focused high school and we all got really into mars at the time. I attended a few talks from Chris McKay and met him a few times. He's one of the best experts on mars and the search for life there. It would be an amazing show if you did. Great content as always. Love your channel and appreciate all the work you do. All the best
I start your video so I can go to sleep and this is your sponsor!? Love your podcasts, but try to be considerate at the end of your show. I sometimes find myself waking up at the end due to loud sounds
Same! Love playing this channel to fall asleep to... If you could create a video playing the intro music on a loop that would be amazing as it sends me off so quickly and I really struggle with my sleep! Keep up the good work!
I remember, from waaaay back, a book being published on this idea. I think it was called something along the lines of 'The Priman Hypothesis'. I can't find a single trace of it though.
So ok, once or twice i might've fell asleep while tuning in....but normally im too focused and interested. I jus play some rainfall sounds after while i consider the topics you and your guests have discussed.
Not necessarily. However. What's the odds that life originated after the late heavy bombardment. What if what helped caused the late heavy bombardment was a star that wandered near our solar system and that star had a planet that had life. It might have helped to seed life on earth.
One thing I have always been amazed by is how you get to that? Coffee is the one that baffles me the most. You need to roast and grind the beans and then add boiling water, how do you get there? :O
HTG, every time I hear the words "Fermi Paradox" the words "Dunning-Kruger" pop into my head. Humans wondering why "intelligent life, if there is any out there, hasn't tried to contact us already" is like earthworms wondering why humans don't get down on the ground and try to communicate with them. Why would you? Same goes for any actually intelligent civilizations in the galaxy. To them, we are neither intelligent nor civilized, and the fact that we think we are is just proof of that.
But there are 2 peaks of "mis-comprehension" in Dunning-Kruger. If we are on the incompetent end, over-estimating our abilities and "conversation skills", are the more advanced aliens also over-estimating our abilities? Like '60s era dolphin researchers trying to teach a bottlenose to enunciate modern American English. Or linguists trying to get grammar out of parrots because they CAN enunciate modern American English?
Is the solution to the Fermi Paradox that our Galaxy is already settled by older alien civilizations?
Let John know what you think below.
The solution to the Fermi Paradox is most likely that we do not have the technological capabilities to scan our galaxy to detect life or technological signatures. To further complicate things if some civilisations are hostile then they are going to want to hide themselves from “others” who are not their friends. Their technologies could be so advanced that they can somehow sit outside the electromagnetic spectrum or alter it in such a way that when we view star systems with our instruments we see nothing at all.
Marijn fly well I’m sorry for starters it was well before 75 years that nuclear threats were made. Second if they weren’t launched in the Cuban missile crisis or by a “crazy North Korean leader(s)” it is very unlikely they will be launched tomorrow. And finally not all civilisations would end up destroying themselves when they’ve reached technological superiority.
Even if life is rare, I rather Think its arrogant to presume we are unique. Whilst the sentiment is very human, statistically, with the size of the Universe, it just seems highly unlikely.
If the Universe has very little intelligent and evolved life, then we might never have “first contact”.
If the Universe is teeming with lntelligent life, we might very Well be a backwater planet, in a backwater Galaxy, in. A backwater part of the Universe, and just be incredibly primitive, not worthy of any contact or attention, before we discover tech thats far beyond even our most ridiculous science fiction. Most of our tech and science has been formed in the last 500 years. Compared to the universal timeframes thats just an incredibly miniscule time.
We are the first. Maybe.. idk😂
The Aliens have analyzed our civilizations, figured out we are boring and annoying and are avoiding us.....
Thanks for continuing to entertain and engage us over these last few years. When my dad died three years ago, the first few nights were the hardest and loneliest but you were here. You helped me to think about something else even if it was only a few minutes at a time. Now my dog has passed and you are here for me again. You are a blessing John. Thanks man.
I am sorry for your loss. I went thru this a few years ago and now again with multiple losses within a month or two of each other. Sometimes life just sucks yet something like this really does help. Thank you to the Event Horizon crew.
The Rainbow Bridge
inspired by a Norse legend
"By the edge of a woods, at the foot of a hill,
Is a lush, green meadow where time stands still.
Where the friends of man and woman do run,
When their time on earth is over and done.
For here, between this world and the next,
Is a place where each beloved creature finds rest.
On this golden land, they wait and they play,
Till the Rainbow Bridge they cross over one day.
No more do they suffer, in pain or in sadness,
For here they are whole, their lives filled with gladness.
Their limbs are restored, their health renewed,
Their bodies have healed, with strength imbued.
They romp through the grass, without even a care,
Until one day they start, and sniff at the air.
All ears prick forward, eyes dart front and back,
Then all of a sudden, one breaks from the pack.
For just at that instant, their eyes have met;
Together again, both person and pet.
So they run to each other, these friends from long past,
The time of their parting is over at last.
The sadness they felt while they were apart,
Has turned into joy once more in each heart.
They embrace with a love that will last forever,
And then, side-by-side, they cross over… together."
J.P. ....... Beautiful my friend.
@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt Wow. That's beautiful.
@@justinwalker4475 yes! Again
Not gonna lie I turn on lectures and seminars nightly to sleep.
I am a simple human. I see John uploading a new video, I watch it. Greetings from Greece!
Greetings!
Ela ree pos paie?
Actually you are not simple, you are incredibly complex, made up of trillions of carbon atoms formed in long dead stars. Greetings from 🎌
I'm the same , only I'm from Norway
No human is simple, greetings from the U.K.
I love the show. Consistent quality content every Thursday. Keep them coming.
Your video's are amazing John, your questions and insight is out of this world and yes you frequently help me sleep. Cheers mate from NZ. Finally of course were not alone its just that we've not had the time or correct methods to detect or be detected by our cosmic neighbors. You should have millions of subscribers mate, keep it up.
Great stuff. Many thanks! I imagine the galactic email Marshall mentions would refer to an attached history of the universe, and 20,000 years later the next email would say, "Sorry, now actually with the attachment".
Eubanks again is amazing. One of my favorite guests
Mine too. Very clear, pleasant to listen to. not long winded. full of information and curiosity.
Great stuff JMG! love this kind of interaction, 2 folks just riffing on space and sci-future
Yes we have, including Earth. It’s imperative that we know every possible civilization location and it’s position in it’s time line at all times.
Your guest is edifying and educational. I hope you’ll have him on for a third time.
This^
Eubanks is great to listen to, good voice too. Shame about his audio quality and constant background noises. 🤖
For real change the smoke alarm battery!
I discovered the event horizon during the lockdown, together with closer to truth, ash Arvin, SEA, cool world's, and I must say awesome content, these channels have been a life send, and goddiers channel
The thought of a civilization out there so old it was around before our solar system formed and literally watched it form is a wild thought.
Ask guest to Stop beating on desk, with microphone on it.
It is time to sit back and watch the episode!
There's something I've always said... Let's say we've been visited during the time the dinosaurs were around. They collected some samples, maybe stayed a few days and then left. What kind of evidence would be realistic to hope to find?
We wouldn't find any. Absolutely none!
Anyway, another FANTASTIC interview, John! Thanks a bunch! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Well, if extraterrestrial technology is as advanced as ours or less advanced than our technology, we wouldn't be able to detect them. For all we know, there could be an extraterrestrial race on a planet in the Alpha Centauri system for example, yet it could technologically be in their version of the medieval period and thus we'd be unable to detect them.
Just squint really hard thru that telescope and you will see them waving.
With a 4.2yr delay, communication would suck.
Or they could be a life that we can't begin to understand
@@alexcorrea4828 Well we understand a lot of the universe and its all the same universe in every direction. Its a bit like saying maybe most stars are just stars we can't see or recognise as being stars. Sure such bizarre forms of life could exist but it seems far less likely than there being lifeforms that are at the very least recognisable to us.
@@nutyyyy the fact that you said we understand a lot of the universe, I can't even have a debate with you if you're uneducated... We don't even know how big it is let alone anything about it
29:38 - that works under the assumption that they would choose to reach out to us as we are now; it may be, assuming the assertion to be accurate, they may well be monitoring us, but waiting for us to reach a societal or technological level where first contact is actually acceptable. We may be too unpredictable or immature societally or technologically to be of interest, or first contact occurs at such a stage because previous trends in first contact have gone wrong at certain other stages, for reasons we may as yet be unaware of or unable to comprehend.
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Love this John thank you. More like this please.
Thanks Steve!
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day from Ireland 🇮🇪 ☘️, great topic and interview John loved it
I pick a playlist on here or JMG and hit shuffle every night on low volume. I get really into the convo and then out of nowhere I’m asleep. It’s awesome, thanks for the channels!
That’s great. You should look at the clips channel. We’re doing compilation videos that are two hours or longer. Where is Everyone? Fermi Paradox Marathon | John Michael Godier and Stephen Webb
ruclips.net/video/3EBJCGS10IA/видео.html
He’s got a quite a point on sending a microscope or DNA detector - someone should have done.
I missed this last week so now I have two to catch up on. Great content as always John. I have always wondered who the first person to milk a cow.
Your voice is soothing. I always fall asleep listening to your channel, but next day when I am awake I listen from beginning to again to actually listen and learn something new.
But yeah, I am guilty of falling asleep while listening to you talk. You really have nice, peaceful and soothing voice. To be honest, I could fall asleep while listening to absolutely any topic you cover.
Imagine Aliens sending us their golden record with all pictures, files, videos, their own knowledge.. What kind of effect it could've had on us if that record was found by us and translated due to Aliens being extremely advanced?
It’s probably already hidden in the Vatican vaults haha
Haha they wouldn’t tell us we definitely know more then they tell the public
I believe he’s right about asteroid mining it’s just too hard now, distances, spare parts, shipping material back. But the moon is close and has Helium 3 which may prove to be more valuable than precious metals.
Call me crazy, but for many reasons I believe lunar mining has been happening for quite some time now.
You have a very soothing voice. And a tremendous sense of humor for capitalizing on that. I salute you sir!
I was just about to retire to bed but I perked up when you mentioned your sponsor.
Very fascinating conversation, John, and another great video!
This is the kind of long-discussion, deep-thought video that enervates me.
You should make audiobooks also.
I’ve often pondered that many a civilization could have come and gone multi millions of years ago. As the professor stated, life is effervescent. Maybe we are a day late and a dollar short. Or…. Too early?
How has this channel only got 230k subscribers?
It is sad when I see other channels with 1million+ putting out absolute rubbish. There is definitely no correlation with quality and the amount of subscribers.
Eubanks is a fantastic guest! I love his imagination
i love your videos and i love it when you add background, mysterious, dreamy, scifi music. You should add music throughout the video.
If we are a simulation, it would be a really good time for our creators to reveal themselves as we have reached the level of sophistication and technogical complexity worthy of their creation. Let the curtains peel back and show us these beings of genesis.
Agree, they need to go ahead and say something. Surely we were made to figure it out and we are working on it. We are closer and closer
This is not a simulation.
@@williamblack4006yes… it is!
@@karmasutra4774ha! We are not even out of first grade!
I've never mentioned it in the comments, but, your content helps me fall asleep even when I'm restless.
The sad reality, based on the single fact alone that NASA never followed up on the labeled release experiment, is that NASA doesn’t want to find life on Mars - or at least not yet. This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Great video JMG.
What is the first thing that I would say to aliens that greet me ?
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"Take me with you !!"
Show me your craziest invention!
I know I've said this before, but again, I say thank you for these videos
Because of the speed of light factor, we don't really know what our own galaxy looks like in " REAL TIME" because everything observed is thousands of light years old by the time we see it.
Civilizations may be around but we won't get the signals, which brings up a deeper philosophical question, does the past still actually exist, just in a different time frame? do people who we loved and died long ago still exist in their own respective time frame?
I bet if you close your eyes you can see empty space.
More Marshall Eubanks please!
So I'm not the only one this program helps to sleep😊
There is no Fermi paradox. He posed a rhetorical question, he never stated "there should be aliens everywhere, but there are no aliens".
The Fermi "paradox" solution is, there must be aliens everywhere, thus they are everywhere, and some are visiting earth from time to time. Especially now in 2022 with all the data coming out, i dont see how anyone can still call it a "paradox" or genuinely believe that other civilizations dont exist or have never been able to visit Earth. It's time to get with the times.
The only way it can be a paradox, is if the statement "so why dont we see them?" is true, which it no longer is (and never was).
Humans should not be allowed to "settle the galaxy" until they've learned to live peacefully on planet Earth.
Whose going to stop us?
Thanks so much for the video.
I wish you All the best.
You help me relax and sleep.
Good conversation! Thanks.
Thank you for this and all the others. I love the dialogue, topics and look forward to it every week!
this guest is awesome ! panspermia, directed or not, is a fascinating concept
It's not likely, because if extraterrestrial civilizations were all over the Milky Way, we probably would have seen, heard, etc signs of them
You have your just blind to it ...
You wouldn't know what your looking at ...
Brilliant content as per usual! Never missed an episode yet! :D
21:20 i'm sorry to jump in with a snyde comment but, ANY "solution" to the fermi paradox that involves a pre-condition on "everybody" in the universe adhering to a certain doctrine or belief structure, simply can not be true.
If a singular civilization can, however unlikely, have a differing opinion, the entire theory falls apart.
So in this example, the idea that "Maybe everybody is afraid of contamination, so they all isolate their planets", simply can not be true, because if a single civilization does NOT behave like this, "everybody" is now shattered, and any such theory needs "everybody" to withhold the test of time.
It's like treating human beings the same way.
If you say "maybe everybody is afraid of germs, so they isolate themselves and never meet in large groups", this simply cannot be true, because you'll always have at least a handful of people who DONT share that belief, fear, or doctrine.
Frankly, it's better to simply throw out any and all (probably 95% of the "solutions" to the fermi paradox) ideas that rely on the precondition of "everybody" in the universe behaving in the same way.
Sure, something COULD be true locally, and "locally" might be an entire galaxy in this case.
If we speak in sci-fi terms, like in the games Mass Effect, perhaps there is a looming enormous danger of self-replicating AI machines drifting in the void, waiting to pick up signals from civilizations, until they cleanse that world, and repeat the cycle for eons.
So perhaps the only surviving civilizations here have learnt, and agreed, to limit their emissions.
But even so, this is NOT a solution to the fermi paradox, because not "everybody" adheres to this.
Any visitor from outside our galaxy, would not know, and would come in "ghettoblaster screaming".
And we ourselves, are proof that this solution isnt true.
WE aren't quiet, WE are blasting out our radio signals into the void without worry.
Thus, even if there WAS a "local" agreement to keep quiet, still not everybody is in on it, we're not in on it.
So then some other nearby civilization WOULD inevitable detect our signals, or we'd detect them, the few young ones foolish enough to keep transmitting, before the machines have reached their worlds to snuff them out.
So even then there would still be signals travelling through space. Even within a self-imposed quarantine zone.
God damn it, John. How have I only now stumbled upon you. Just amazing. Keep it up, Brother!
Galactic Seeder Craft, with astronomycast’s wierdly habitable planets you could put systems onboard to aim for those!
I totally put this on as I am going to sleep LOL
"Quite some time ago" I love it haha
It's the voice that helps me sleep, but the content keeps me awake
Excellent guest, great show!
I have a question about Lunar mining. As we mine it, it starts to change the mass of the moon, lets's leave Tides and Earth's wobble changing aside for now. Could the Mass change to a point where Earth's pull on the moon get great enough to cause the moon to start heading towards Earth which will lead to a collision?
Scary stuff
lol. no
I don't think so. The Moon has so much material that it would take hundreds or thousands of years of mining for the Moon to lose a significant amount of mass to have reduced gravity.
@@sciencerscientifico310 I was interested if it was possible. But I wouldn't want that to be a thing because Humanity has proven that they are incapable of stopping something in time.
No, it doesn't matter if we mine half of the moon, or even 99% of it. Orbits are defined based on the speed, and the mass of the parent body. If anything, mining the moon would be safer than mining Earth.
With all that's going on in the world, you and your podcast offers a little bit of hope. Hope that one day humanity will be able to look past it's pathetic squabbles and focus on something greater.
A bit closer to home is the thought that there are actually people out there who think about these things rather than war or the expansion of territory.
Thank you. That is one of the main goals of the show.
Thanks John
What an absolutely mind boggling thought that a species may exist that was around before even the birth of our solar system. And perhaps around for even billions of years before our solar system. I mean, they'd be so advanced that forget about whether they're watching us or not, what if they *created* us and all the life on our planet, they created our Sun, all our planets etc? Can you imagine?!
But who made them and what happens to us?
I'd love to see the videos of Earth's dinosaurs that were taken by an older more advanced civilization.
so would we.
It was only a little over 100 years ago that the wright brothers took the first airplane flight. We are still crawling out of the cradle when we look at the universal time scale.
I wish you would interview Chris McKay on Mars. As a kid I was extremely interested in mars. I went to an agriculture focused high school and we all got really into mars at the time. I attended a few talks from Chris McKay and met him a few times. He's one of the best experts on mars and the search for life there. It would be an amazing show if you did. Great content as always. Love your channel and appreciate all the work you do. All the best
Great interview thanks!
I start your video so I can go to sleep and this is your sponsor!?
Love your podcasts, but try to be considerate at the end of your show. I sometimes find myself waking up at the end due to loud sounds
Same! Love playing this channel to fall asleep to... If you could create a video playing the intro music on a loop that would be amazing as it sends me off so quickly and I really struggle with my sleep! Keep up the good work!
I remember, from waaaay back, a book being published on this idea. I think it was called something along the lines of 'The Priman Hypothesis'. I can't find a single trace of it though.
The guest has to change the battery in his smoke alarm! I heard it last interview too
“It’s crazy idea time, and this is all on me”
-JMG
Lol, one of my favorite things you’ve ever said
Marshall sounds like Ted Danson LOL! Fantastic episode, I love when scientists are willing to cast their intellect into the deep unknown.
Lol, totally trying to sleep right now 😂
Dr Eubanks sounds like Dan Dennett the philosopher
John Michael Goaty-Ay!!!!!!!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great topic!
10,000 or 20,000 years round trip from edges of our galaxy for a conversation? More like 200,000 years.
I need a good night's sleep right now. Thanks John!
You can really hear how much JMG personally enjoyed this one
So ok, once or twice i might've fell asleep while tuning in....but normally im too focused and interested. I jus play some rainfall sounds after while i consider the topics you and your guests have discussed.
Not necessarily. However. What's the odds that life originated after the late heavy bombardment. What if what helped caused the late heavy bombardment was a star that wandered near our solar system and that star had a planet that had life. It might have helped to seed life on earth.
We need tabby star update!!!! Tabby star! Tabby star! Tabby star!
One thing I have always been amazed by is how you get to that?
Coffee is the one that baffles me the most. You need to roast and grind the beans and then add boiling water, how do you get there? :O
EXCELLENT! if NOT OUTSTANDING . MANY THANKS ! HOST JOHN MICHAEL GODIER. GUEST w/ MARSHALL EUBANKS. FROM, U.K. (2023).
Your too interesting to fall asleep too. So mind expanding. Amazing. Thank you
Anyone else ever not get to the end of these videos ? I put them on to sleep and never hear the end 😭
Right on cool video!!!
That's not a problem. Manifest destiny.
Amazing video, also this was one of my favorite guests on your show very good at communicating his thoughts .
HTG, every time I hear the words "Fermi Paradox" the words "Dunning-Kruger" pop into my head. Humans wondering why "intelligent life, if there is any out there, hasn't tried to contact us already" is like earthworms wondering why humans don't get down on the ground and try to communicate with them. Why would you? Same goes for any actually intelligent civilizations in the galaxy. To them, we are neither intelligent nor civilized, and the fact that we think we are is just proof of that.
But there are 2 peaks of "mis-comprehension" in Dunning-Kruger. If we are on the incompetent end, over-estimating our abilities and "conversation skills", are the more advanced aliens also over-estimating our abilities? Like '60s era dolphin researchers trying to teach a bottlenose to enunciate modern American English. Or linguists trying to get grammar out of parrots because they CAN enunciate modern American English?
@Kim Beall It is highly doubtful that aliens would hate humans as much as you do.
Ancient galaxy builder: *spits in a cup and tosses into space near the solar system*
Really great thought provoking episode. So many great ideas and things to ponder.
The galaxy appears to be primordial in the sense that we see no evidence of the great engineering projects in space that we can envision.
I almost start a playlist from your other channel. When I fall asleep.
Wow I'm not the only one who loves sleeping to this??? I thought I was weird :D
I like the idea of sending balloon(s) to Venus. Sounds practical, cheap and can produce a lot of information.
Thanks for another great one John
You got a amazing voice jonh and awesome content keep up the great work !