@@roberth721 he's turned into that Bishop he used to make fun of. He's so bitter pompous and sanctimonious. He should hook up with Eric Saward. Those 2 would get along so well.
Stephen Fry is so right. Hearing things like 'baby boomer' or 'millennial' make me want to throw up as well. Just another way of dividing people, giving them labels and setting them up against each other. I remember chocolate cigarettes too!
Agreed. It's very natural to stereotype and we all do it. Those terms explain the origin of personal differences that might take lots of conversation to figure out. Excluding the opinions of groups from the outset because they are in those groups becomes wrong in my opinion, as you say
@@DavidChaplin-yd7rm erasing language to describe cultural phenomenon won't end the divisive nature of the phenomenon, it'll just make it harder to understand and push back against it.
Having the shot of the background guy putting his beer mug on the table as Stephen is talking about the reasons he doesn't like alcohol is a gold star for the editor of this show.
Dunno worry Stephen, Adults should be able to have free will over what substances they can experiment with. I myself embraced mdma throughout the covid lockdowns along with psilocybin... The amount of joy i had in a time where the world was a very dark place was off the charts! So much light and love. Truly a beautiful experience.
These two men, albeit with the obvious respect and deference Fry gives Cleese his senior in terms of comedy standing, have both made me laugh a great deal in my life, I would argued they show that generally that men who are able to make others laugh are usually very intelligent.
Nick as I learnt so very well, on realizing one day at school when acting the fool to get other kids to laugh, that they were laughing AT ME, instead of me making them laugh, and that is a very big difference. Later in life when becoming a teacher, a trainer and a presenter where to a small degree (unlike to the level of professional comedians) I was able to try out stories and routines to get my students to laugh which I blended in to underline what I was teaching. Now 70, I find in many aspects of life, shopping, travelling, dealing with officials and my third partner and second family that being able to make people laugh is an amazing life skill that not just improves other people's lives but your own as well. I am sure you were trying to be clever with your reply, but sadly you failed and just showed your ignorance. I don't know how old you are, but I was 13 when your comment would have applied to me, 57 years of not being so, was for me a wise way to be. Which is why when I watched John Cleese and Stephen Fry and made my comment, I am able to recognize their pure mastery and very high intelligence. @@NickGreiner1988
@@wakeupuk3860 Imagine our interaction as a Fry and Laurie skit where at this point, after receiving such a browbeating, I simply leave my post as shopkeeper, in sour defeat, sighing and mumbling under my breath; "I don't know why I bother".
I think you need to get a grip of yourself and take control of your own life, you only get one, don’t waste it doing a job you don’t want to do. Even thickos with enough drive succeed.
I think the distinction is that they are 'incidentally' rich. Becoming rich is not the primary goal. They want to do something extraordinary. Bezos for instance seem to have nothing about him apart from trying to get richer. Musk, on the other hand, is a visionary - though I do think he's a bit a bit a twat personally..
@@doug_1489 not always. My father was careful his whole life, and now his safety net is being swallowed up at an alarming rate with care costs. And the worry amplifies more each day.
I remember working in London and never feeling I was earning enough for the lifestyle I wanted. Becoming a mother changed all that. Now I know the true value of family and friends, and treasure them more than any money could ever give me. Mother Earth has also helped cure my lungs 🙏🌍. I am 57 and totally drug free. I no longer need Big Pharma. Free at last. Money is a disease. I'm glad I woke up. ♥️
I'm not sure in many cases it's even about money as such. It's more about the fact that money gives you the freedom to DO what you want to do. And if you're doing something you love, then the money is no longer the most important thing, it's just a byproduct of enjoying your pursuit.
I am nervous about GB News as I am about a lot of things but so long as these 2 guys are there well adjust your set. Hope they remain and a brilliant conversation continues to develop.
There’s a point where you only have to work if you want to and you have no fear of being without in your old age. That requires quite a considerable income.
They both have this silent desperation so common in these upper class Brits and it is what makes them so ironic and funny while being cynical and honest in a self-deprecating way. They are the result of the sadomasochistic trauma based education system once common in the British Isles. They are good fellows, I love them both.
I remember even in the 1980s there were chocolate cigars wrapped in edible paper (I actually asked my mother if I could eat it) that looked incredibly realistic.
I think acquiring money can probably get very addictive. At the beginning, even when you go from $1 million to $10 million, it's probably having a very real benefit to a person's lifestyle, so initially the link between more 000's in your bank account does make a difference... it might be hard to turn that feeling off in your head.
In a much minor scale we deal with this everyday. An example in my own life is recently getting a little money and thinking about getting a bigger house. It didnt take long to realise the bigger house was only more attractive because we could show people we had a bigger house. That quickly put an end to looking at houses!
its painful watching wealthy people try to explain basic things. they've obviously never been poor. something as simple as not wanting to work for other people just completely eludes them.
I Really like Steven Fry ! I always have since my teens tbh ! When i was younger, i thought he way very posh :) but since my teens, i have had a lot of respect for him and I myslef am not like Steven in some ways (i am not exactly law abiding , and i am not great at english ect. ) but i do work and pay plent of tax , but i relate to what he is saying. I think he is honest, and kind hearted
We need to outlaw billionaires. It’s not about the money, it’s about power and control. The money is just one of the ways score is kept. We humans have a fundamental flaw that may have helped us survive evolution, but it doesn’t help a society survive, let alone thrive. The greed and control of the elites and capitalism like this must end. We need better. We need to care for each other and not allow the continued enslavement of 99% of people for the enrichment of the 1%.
In particular, I think people confuse power with happiness. I really don’t think so. I think more power, if you’re going to use it properly (and therefore be happy enough with it) comes with more responsibility.
I think they're talking more about the super-rich, and that drive to get more money, even when you don't need it. A hard worker may dream about more money for a different reason, which is perhaps that they need it for whatever they want to accomplish. Maybe the distinction is between wanting to better yourself and wanting to reward yourself, and perhaps they come from the same root.
What is enough is a question that has different answers for different people. Majority of people are just happy having enough to live and raise their kids and that it, even without luxuries. The super rich, despite having millions, never stop trying to get more millions.
i want to be rich so i know i dont have to worry about money, no matter what comes up. Maybe ill need $1m to give to my best friend that needs high grade medical care. You just dont know what might come up, best to be prepared for everything. Certainly would prefer to have +£1 than -£1
I had the same reaction when I fulfilled a childhood dream of owning a Corvette. I bought a brand new Corvette in 2003. It cost around $55K. I was thrilled. As I drove I realized I was as happy as if I found a five dollar bill as a child and knew I could buy a bunch of candy I liked. It cost me $55K to be as happy as finding $5 as a child. This didn't upset me. I smiled. That's life and it's absolutely fine.
I gotta say, Stephen... I experimented with a few substances over the years and it's had no detrimental effect on my feathers or tentacles at all. All good.
He was convicted of stealing and using other people's credit cards and served a jail sentence. He is also a nonce. You think that is honest? Do your research before making stupid comments.
@@Commentator-tb8ku He served barely a few months well three precisely so 12 weeks for the taking of money from a close family friend, an act they he acknowledges as "disgraceful" and was born by his mental health issues and his drug taking he engaged in to soothe that which takes more honesty then you can ever understand of both yourself and others and his husband elliot Spencer is 35!!! So how does that make him a nonce?? Do your research before making stupid comments foolish child.
It's far easier to look down from the hill and remember your imagined climb, than it is to be at the foot of the hill, looking up and wondering how you will or can, even, get a foothold on the fucking thing.
You only want to be rich enough so you can do what you want when you want & not have to be in the enforced company of those you dislike. The size of your house / car are secondary you realize that once you get past 40!
I remember the liquorice pipe with chocolate tobacco shavings and the sherbet fountain and I'm nowhere near as old as Stephen Fry. They didn't get pulled from the shelves too quickly did they?
Why are there nuns in the background chatting at a table? Are we supposed to assume this chat is taking place in a coffee shop rather than TV studio?? Bit strange.
I too describe myself as having this propensity towards addictive things, but as with you, never alcohol, because I just don't like the all-round feeling of it, at least in the long term. Cocaine on the other hand, I too continue to use about once per week or less, but as a former Heroin addict clean since 2004, i do admit my preferred route is intravenous, which is itself, a more serious means of doing it.
When Aristotle Onassis (horrible little man) was at the zenith of his fame and fortune in the mid-60’s, a reporter for some glitzy Parisian magazine asked him how much money he had amassed. - “Oh, I’ve no idea at all”, came the crass reply, “that would be a question for the accountants...” - “Another question then, if I may, M. Onassis”, said the journalist, “are you satisfied that you have made enough?” - “Ah, that’s an easy one”, the tycoon quickly answered, “certainly not!”.
Julia Ross Phd. Her book The Craving Cure deals with addictions like cocaine, alcohol, heroin, caffeine, sweets (actually, she addresses food cravings in The Diet Cure). She says ' it's not your fault. Your brain is starving.' Specifically your brain is starving for amino acids as well as other nutrients. She has had 75% success rate with addiction recovery, even with people who have been to rehab multiple times and really want to get off their drug, but just can not. The national recovery rate in U.S. and Canada is 25%. The book is available in libraries if you can't afford to buy.
For me money has always been freedom. The more money you have in this society the more free you are. But once you have enough money for that I would agree it's diminishing returns.
I don't think the accumulation of wealth is just motivated by greed. Warren Buffet is a good example of this, he loves the processes of wealth creation.
Homer: You know, Mr. Burns, you're the richest guy I know. Way richer than Lenny.
Mr Burns: Oh, yes. But I'd trade it all for a little more.
Genius
It's important to realize that Cleese is almost 20 years older than Fry, yet his clarity of mind is astonishing!
..its young ones who have confused minds . . .lol ...brain damaged from 'Rap music' etc .
He also sued a newspaper for saying he sucked. He is the ultimate hypocrite
@@nifralo2752I'm sure you can find examples of greater hypocrisy, Cleese is hardly the ultimate.
@@roberth721 he's turned into that Bishop he used to make fun of. He's so bitter pompous and sanctimonious. He should hook up with Eric Saward. Those 2 would get along so well.
@@nifralo2752 well, don't worry about it too much, at his age he'll shuffle off his mortal coil soon enough.
Fry and Cleese. The sit down chat we’ve always wanted, but didn’t realise.
Oh, we realised! Haha
But he wanted Hugh Laurie
Cleese has been 90 since he was 17
Yes I was never keen on Cleese. Not a very funny man imo
@@Coneman3 Couldn’t disagree more. He’s easily one of the most naturally hilarious people I’ve ever come across.
Two utterly brilliant gentlemen. I, myself, have had the immeasurable honour of seeing Mr. Cleese live.
It's very refreshing to see two human beings having a great conversation with complete honesty! (some good humor, too)
I'd listen to these wonderful gentlemen all day, today and tomorrow and...
I love how crazy the set of this looks. It makes you go, "What is going on here!?" A good way to stand out to people who flip the channels.
The set looks sh!t, not clever and try hard pretentious humbug.
Were those nuns behind Fry?!
love it 😂
@@jamesthecat Yes. Fry said to the producers he was "getting none from behind" and they misheard him.
My dad would say "show me a guy with 500 million dollars and I will show you a frustrated billionaire" 😅
I once worked for a multi millionaire and it drove him nuts that all his mates were richer than him.
If you had a British Dad, you've been on the Internet too often.
Stephen Fry is so right. Hearing things like 'baby boomer' or 'millennial' make me want to throw up as well. Just another way of dividing people, giving them labels and setting them up against each other. I remember chocolate cigarettes too!
Agreed. It's very natural to stereotype and we all do it. Those terms explain the origin of personal differences that might take lots of conversation to figure out. Excluding the opinions of groups from the outset because they are in those groups becomes wrong in my opinion, as you say
Agreed, let's stop using divisive terms like "woke" and "cancel culture"
Yeah but it was the boomer's who started the whole thing. Labelling young people as lazy and entitled as every older generation has before them
@@DavidChaplin-yd7rm erasing language to describe cultural phenomenon won't end the divisive nature of the phenomenon, it'll just make it harder to understand and push back against it.
Human nature to categorise the world around us just so we can pretend to understand it
"I love it, I just love it and it's a disgrace"
What a lovely guy, if you had to be stuck in a lift for 10 hours with one person.
Lovely chat! I remember all those sweets that Stephen mentioned, even the rice paper flying saucers :)
My cocaine is watching these two legends of comedy in conversation.
I think also it’s about freedom and comfort. That’s what appeals to me about being rich.
Be happy with what you've got and share things with others, be generous with your time, your knowledge and your money if possible.
I dislike all human beings equally and to be honest, I wish I disliked them all a little more.
Here! Here! 😂
😊
I can listen to these guys all day.
Cleese’s laugh just kills me 😂
“I sort of describe myself as a late-imperialist” had me lmfao
So unsettling having people pretend to be chatting around them
Y are they doing that?
@@Andy-jb8meatmosphere
@@brushstroke3733 I'm sure the big cat and the kangaroo provided the very kind of atmosphere Fry and Cleese didn't need.
@@TonyEnglandUK Is that so?? You're sure about that, eh? 🤣🤣
@@brushstroke3733 Well you got triggered early in our conversation, go have a nap 🤣🤣🤣
Could listen the Steve Fry for hours.
Having the shot of the background guy putting his beer mug on the table as Stephen is talking about the reasons he doesn't like alcohol is a gold star for the editor of this show.
This is a good combination of funny & honesty😅
Everytime John laughs I am overjoyed
Dunno worry Stephen, Adults should be able to have free will over what substances they can experiment with.
I myself embraced mdma throughout the covid lockdowns along with psilocybin...
The amount of joy i had in a time where the world was a very dark place was off the charts! So much light and love.
Truly a beautiful experience.
love that
Best conversation ive seen on GB News
Love listening to these two chatting
this has me in pieces and shivering tears because of how true this is.
These two men, albeit with the obvious respect and deference Fry gives Cleese his senior in terms of comedy standing, have both made me laugh a great deal in my life, I would argued they show that generally that men who are able to make others laugh are usually very intelligent.
People laugh at me all the time and I'm dumb as a post
Nick as I learnt so very well, on realizing one day at school when acting the fool to get other kids to laugh, that they were laughing AT ME, instead of me making them laugh, and that is a very big difference.
Later in life when becoming a teacher, a trainer and a presenter where to a small degree (unlike to the level of professional comedians) I was able to try out stories and routines to get my students to laugh which I blended in to underline what I was teaching.
Now 70, I find in many aspects of life, shopping, travelling, dealing with officials and my third partner and second family that being able to make people laugh is an amazing life skill that not just improves other people's lives but your own as well.
I am sure you were trying to be clever with your reply, but sadly you failed and just showed your ignorance. I don't know how old you are, but I was 13 when your comment would have applied to me, 57 years of not being so, was for me a wise way to be.
Which is why when I watched John Cleese and Stephen Fry and made my comment, I am able to recognize their pure mastery and very high intelligence. @@NickGreiner1988
@@wakeupuk3860 Imagine our interaction as a Fry and Laurie skit where at this point, after receiving such a browbeating, I simply leave my post as shopkeeper, in sour defeat, sighing and mumbling under my breath; "I don't know why I bother".
Ricky Gervais did his A levels in chemistry & physics then majored in philosophy in college.
@@patcarroll9234 He's got a PhD in hypocrisy too
Great stuff - keep it coming
I smiled when Steven Fry said, "I wrote a sort of autobiography about myself". Oneself is surely an ideal topic for an autobiography.
Excellent interview
Rich people berating very rich people...As a PAYE slave, this conversion is lost on me.
Either I'm out of touch with reality or they are! 😊
Exactly, rich people acting like 'top' animals who can beat up anyone else?
And *who* exactly are the problem????
Me, too!
I think you need to get a grip of yourself and take control of your own life, you only get one, don’t waste it doing a job you don’t want to do. Even thickos with enough drive succeed.
I think the distinction is that they are 'incidentally' rich. Becoming rich is not the primary goal. They want to do something extraordinary. Bezos for instance seem to have nothing about him apart from trying to get richer. Musk, on the other hand, is a visionary - though I do think he's a bit a bit a twat personally..
@@kieran5191 that is because this world is made by thickos for thickos. So naturally thickos will thrive.
Enough is never enough because of a deep sense of insecurity. If people were secure inside they wouldn’t succumb to greed.
John Cleeses laugh at the end 😂 classic
two absolute legends. respect!
John cleese looks ten years younger than last time I saw him
He has a totally different personality when he talks to someone he respects as well. I like him but he acts like a twat on most things
Make up does wonders
@@Irishstew6969 does it really darling ? 😎
The benefit of having enough is not worrying. The downside of having too much, or not enough, is constantly worrying.
That's called greed isn't it?
@@doug_1489 not always. My father was careful his whole life, and now his safety net is being swallowed up at an alarming rate with care costs. And the worry amplifies more each day.
My favourite word. " Enough"
I remember working in London and never feeling I was earning enough for the lifestyle I wanted. Becoming a mother changed all that. Now I know the true value of family and friends, and treasure them more than any money could ever give me. Mother Earth has also helped cure my lungs 🙏🌍. I am 57 and totally drug free. I no longer need Big Pharma. Free at last. Money is a disease. I'm glad I woke up. ♥️
Lovely 👏🏼
Opening statement... So we can sit like you guys and not worry about being homeless.
I'm not sure in many cases it's even about money as such. It's more about the fact that money gives you the freedom to DO what you want to do. And if you're doing something you love, then the money is no longer the most important thing, it's just a byproduct of enjoying your pursuit.
I am nervous about GB News as I am about a lot of things but so long as these 2 guys are there well adjust your set. Hope they remain and a brilliant conversation continues to develop.
Why would you be?
@@itube0047 it is a relatively new channel and I am hesitant to espouse channels in these chaotic times. So far so good. Best I can do.
Or do not adjust your set, as Michael Palin might say ;)
Why are you nervous about GB news ?
@@NickQuigley-dp9sobecause its a propaganda and culture war factory
There’s a point where you only have to work if you want to and you have no fear of being without in your old age. That requires quite a considerable income.
2 legends 🙌
They've never been poor which is why they don't know the answer to the question.
that's a fair comment
A lot of the rich hoarders out there haven’t either, they just know it’s terrifying looking.
The tuck shop story is EXACTLY what happened to me at boarding school.. and that was in the early 90s..
Where did you school?
@@acm1137 That was at Mill Hill, north of London. That tuck shop was the highlight of my day there, every time..
They both have this silent desperation so common in these upper class Brits and it is what makes them so ironic and funny while being cynical and honest in a self-deprecating way. They are the result of the sadomasochistic trauma based education system once common in the British Isles.
They are good fellows, I love them both.
What on Earth are you talking about?!!!
@@jazzman2516 if you don’t understand it is only your problem, my friend.
Stop quoting pink Floyd 😅
@@fancyhat6505 they knew what they were talking about!
John and Stephen. We don't deserve them.
Thank you Stephen Fry, I now know why I craved cocaine & tobacco so much, it stemmed from my childhood love of sherbert.
I remember even in the 1980s there were chocolate cigars wrapped in edible paper (I actually asked my mother if I could eat it) that looked incredibly realistic.
I think acquiring money can probably get very addictive. At the beginning, even when you go from $1 million to $10 million, it's probably having a very real benefit to a person's lifestyle, so initially the link between more 000's in your bank account does make a difference... it might be hard to turn that feeling off in your head.
In a much minor scale we deal with this everyday. An example in my own life is recently getting a little money and thinking about getting a bigger house. It didnt take long to realise the bigger house was only more attractive because we could show people we had a bigger house. That quickly put an end to looking at houses!
A wonderful sensitive human
its painful watching wealthy people try to explain basic things. they've obviously never been poor. something as simple as not wanting to work for other people just completely eludes them.
What a delight to listren to two such wonderfully intelligent people
I Really like Steven Fry ! I always have since my teens tbh ! When i was younger, i thought he way very posh :) but since my teens, i have had a lot of respect for him and I myslef am not like Steven in some ways (i am not exactly law abiding , and i am not great at english ect. ) but i do work and pay plent of tax , but i relate to what he is saying. I think he is honest, and kind hearted
John Cleese is ageing really well. Still really sharp
We need to outlaw billionaires. It’s not about the money, it’s about power and control. The money is just one of the ways score is kept. We humans have a fundamental flaw that may have helped us survive evolution, but it doesn’t help a society survive, let alone thrive.
The greed and control of the elites and capitalism like this must end. We need better. We need to care for each other and not allow the continued enslavement of 99% of people for the enrichment of the 1%.
Well said.
So very true!.
Some people are just the ‘black holes’ of greed.
We need better balance.
Love Steven Fry such a lovely man.
Not really a fan, myself. I have never really heard him say anything particularly interesting or original.
He's really not, he's more troubled than anyone you could throw a stick at.
@@fraserbailey6347 I guess you never watched the Blackadder series!🤩
I could listen to them for hours. But when Stephen mentioned a "Tuck Shop" the memories had me in stitches 😂😂😂
For wealthy people enough is never enough😊
Where are they? Weird place for a podcast haha
Felt like I was tripping out watching this with two nuns rocking 😂
This is fascinating.
He’s summed up having an addictive personality perfectly to me it’s exactly what it feels like
Greed is insidious, like cancer.
can someone explain to me why there are nuns in the background!!
Absolutely correct!!
Fry needs a podcast
Nothing outside can ever fill that hole inside.
What we seek outside is who we are inside. 🙂
Rishabh Dassani
In particular, I think people confuse power with happiness.
I really don’t think so. I think more power, if you’re going to use it properly (and therefore be happy enough with it) comes with more responsibility.
These 2 were amazing comics back in the day.....
How they ended up on this channel?
They still are, it's people like you who have strayed.
@@gtaylor331 not really, I still watch some of their old stuff, I find it even more comical now, then I did when first released
lovely......
This tells me they have never understood the poor man's mind.
If you clock in 50 years 9-5 in a factory you dream about loads money to get freedom
I think they're talking more about the super-rich, and that drive to get more money, even when you don't need it. A hard worker may dream about more money for a different reason, which is perhaps that they need it for whatever they want to accomplish. Maybe the distinction is between wanting to better yourself and wanting to reward yourself, and perhaps they come from the same root.
What is enough is a question that has different answers for different people. Majority of people are just happy having enough to live and raise their kids and that it, even without luxuries. The super rich, despite having millions, never stop trying to get more millions.
There is something surreal about two millionaires musing over the motivations of the wealthy....
i want to be rich so i know i dont have to worry about money, no matter what comes up. Maybe ill need $1m to give to my best friend that needs high grade medical care. You just dont know what might come up, best to be prepared for everything. Certainly would prefer to have +£1 than -£1
I had the same reaction when I fulfilled a childhood dream of owning a Corvette. I bought a brand new Corvette in 2003. It cost around $55K. I was thrilled. As I drove I realized I was as happy as if I found a five dollar bill as a child and knew I could buy a bunch of candy I liked. It cost me $55K to be as happy as finding $5 as a child. This didn't upset me. I smiled. That's life and it's absolutely fine.
Depends how you made your $55K. And who has $55K less because of it.
I gotta say, Stephen... I experimented with a few substances over the years and it's had no detrimental effect on my feathers or tentacles at all. All good.
As honest as the day is long , Mr fry is an English treasure.
English is so much better than British.
He was convicted of stealing and using other people's credit cards and served a jail sentence. He is also a nonce. You think that is honest? Do your research before making stupid comments.
@@Commentator-tb8ku He served barely a few months well three precisely so 12 weeks for the taking of money from a close family friend, an act they he acknowledges as "disgraceful" and was born by his mental health issues and his drug taking he engaged in to soothe that which takes more honesty then you can ever understand of both yourself and others and his husband elliot Spencer is 35!!! So how does that make him a nonce?? Do your research before making stupid comments foolish child.
The only stupid comment on here is yours,@@Commentator-tb8ku You are clearly anti Stephen Fry. you make it bleedin obvious.
It's far easier to look down from the hill and remember your imagined climb, than it is to be at the foot of the hill, looking up and wondering how you will or can, even, get a foothold on the fucking thing.
Most respect ♥️
Probably should have filled it with God.
JC has always been truly halarious.. at 91 now he's even funnier than ever.. what a life! 😂
He's getting younger of course...........born in '39.
You only want to be rich enough so you can do what you want when you want & not have to be in the enforced company of those you dislike. The size of your house / car are secondary you realize that once you get past 40!
When Stephen said he was born the same year as Sugar Puffs 🤣🤣🤣
love this guys shrug
These 2 could probably fill a whole series
I remember the liquorice pipe with chocolate tobacco shavings and the sherbet fountain and I'm nowhere near as old as Stephen Fry.
They didn't get pulled from the shelves too quickly did they?
Loving the dinosaur hour. 😂😊
We dont all want to be rich and have a nice car
Why are there nuns in the background chatting at a table? Are we supposed to assume this chat is taking place in a coffee shop rather than TV studio?? Bit strange.
Wealth equates the security of not worrying about a myriad of things. Less worry is comfort
I too describe myself as having this propensity towards addictive things, but as with you, never alcohol, because I just don't like the all-round feeling of it, at least in the long term. Cocaine on the other hand, I too continue to use about once per week or less, but as a former Heroin addict clean since 2004, i do admit my preferred route is intravenous, which is itself, a more serious means of doing it.
When Aristotle Onassis (horrible little man) was at the zenith of his fame and fortune in the mid-60’s, a reporter for some glitzy Parisian magazine asked him how much money he had amassed. - “Oh, I’ve no idea at all”, came the crass reply, “that would be a question for the accountants...” - “Another question then, if I may, M. Onassis”, said the journalist, “are you satisfied that you have made enough?” - “Ah, that’s an easy one”, the tycoon quickly answered, “certainly not!”.
Julia Ross Phd. Her book The Craving Cure deals with addictions like cocaine, alcohol, heroin, caffeine, sweets (actually, she addresses food cravings in The Diet Cure). She says ' it's not your fault. Your brain is starving.' Specifically your brain is starving for amino acids as well as other nutrients. She has had 75% success rate with addiction recovery, even with people who have been to rehab multiple times and really want to get off their drug, but just can not. The national recovery rate in U.S. and Canada is 25%. The book is available in libraries if you can't afford to buy.
Enjoyable conversation but what’s going on in the background? 😂
I’m only 30 and even when I was a kid there was still cigarette candy
My two fav people!!
That addictive gene is actually an attachment wound.
so... what do you do with the hole? how can I fix it?
Sugar? We used to dream of sugar! These days all we get is carcinogenic artificial sweetener chemicals.
For me money has always been freedom. The more money you have in this society the more free you are. But once you have enough money for that I would agree it's diminishing returns.
I don't think the accumulation of wealth is just motivated by greed. Warren Buffet is a good example of this, he loves the processes of wealth creation.