THIS WASN"T A SONG BUT A LOOK INTO A SOUL! Ex Metal Elitist Reacts Nightwish "Poet and the Pendulum"
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Tuomas singing his mother's words aloud while not having a mic at all is one of the reasons why this hits so much more as a video and not just a track.
If this heartfelt outcry does not touch you, you may not have a soul.
Agreed
Every time, again and again
I agree 💯
when floor starts singing, be still my son you're home.......i have never been able to stop the tears in my eyes.
Very few people realize how much courage it takes to be this vulnerable, to show the whole damn world the very depth of your soul knowing that human beings can be incredibly cruel and equally capable to heal and to inflict even more pain.
When my wife's bipolar disorder was at its most uncontrolled, this song, and especially this chorus, kept me going, kept me alive, because I KNEW someone out there UNDERSTOOD pain, understood that when you're the strong shoulder someone is crying on, you can't cry, and when you face the world with all of your own pain, you show one happy face to the world and your true face to your inner self, your God....private, for no one else, because you CAN'T. There were days on my 1-2 hour commute I listened to this song on repeat, over and over and over again.
Thank you, Tuomas.
appreciate you opening up friend
❤
The emotion in Floor's eyes goes into your soul.
I don't care how many times I hear this song - it always brings tears to my eyes. The thing that gets me the most is Floor quietly whispering Thank You to close the song- are you kidding me?
it was beautiful
There is no other singer that can bring the emotion to a song than Floor, by far the best female voice on the planet....
The Poet and the Pendulum was written after firing Tarja the original singer. She was the face of Nightwish at the time, and Tuomas (Keyboards) wrote this and considered her a muse to many of the songs he had written at that point. They had also grown up in the same city and knew each other since early childhood. All the band members decided together to fire her for acting too much of a diva And her husband & Manager was stepping way outta bounds concerning the band business He always wanted more money , only big paying show but the band did it for the love of music and there fans . According to all the band members, Tarja was missing lots of rehearsals and would not even travel with the band anymore. Tuomas was painted as the devil by many fans, and went through a deep depression. He even considered ending the band . He wrote The Poet and the Pendulum at that time, and actually kills himself in the song. He said he killed himself in the song at the 10:00 time stamp , as to kill the pain he was going through . To this day every time he plays it, it takes him back to those feelings, and shows on his face. In the last part, Mother and Father, words are said to him that his real mother said to him at that time of his deep depression. One part that touches me at the end when the guitarist Emppu and bassist Marko, the only other two involved with firing Tarja (that were still active with the band)were standing with Tuomas at the end in solidarity and love., NOTE : the 1st two words are (The End) and the last two words are (The Beginning) representing the end of the 1st era of Nightwish and the beginning of the next era
I was at that concert - 12.500 people in awe and salt in our eyes. Nobody in this galaxy are able to express emotions, passion and feelings, so hard and effectively, that everybody in the arena, lives it - like Floor.
We know that Tuomas have the technicians kill Floor's voice in his earplugs during the ending - of course he has. She is insanely powerful !!
This whole concert was a roller-coaster of emotions and feelings - and this one particular crushed our minds.
It's far beyond music - it's art performed in it's purest form.
This is real music - this is Nightwish with Floor in front ❤
''I can not cry, cause the shoulder cries more'' Damn....that always hits me. I had a same experience as Tuomas, with media, politicians and so called friends betraying you, writing the most horrible things about you, you don't recognize. It kept on going for months, years....journalists on my frontdoor while my daughter of 4 years old opened the door (I was behind her) they pretended to deliver a package and stuck the microphone in my face , with his shoes between my door.
I was a specialized nurse, very ill (cancer at age 34) operations and chemo and lots of time to think. I wanted to do something good for my profession and all the nurses who work ther butts of for little money. I was naive and an idealist. Not a hardcore politician. When I found out that large amounts of money were missing (corruption) and asked for the conviential files , it took me 3 months to get them and pages were missing. I went in a debate and I am strong with words. They could not deal with me, so the head of the region called HIS newsaper (subsidised by these people) and they wrote the most horrific things abbout me. Even me being a nazi ( something I despite, I am jewish myself and have a very multicultural family)
It is inhuman what people do to eachother without any remorse. So when the open letter (written by the whole band, not only tuomas) backfired and the media, Fnnish politicians, fans and ''friends; haunted him down in the media....I know so well how that feels. There are no words for. Defending yourself makes it worse, you just have to swallow it.
My shoulders where aso extremely upset and I had not really a strong shoulder to cry on. Demonizing people (what they also did to Tuomas) is horrible and the consequences are enormous.
I really could not deal with it anymore. My name was ruined, by cruel people and I lost everything. First my marriedge, my job, my house and without a house, I could not have my sweet daughters with me, who really wanted to stay with mom (they were all three very young) Homeless, nobody wants to hire you, the hardest part...my children.
I am happy Tuomas could write this song, to get rid of his 'ghosts'. I did want to end my life and I messed up, being in hospital for months and tr to walk again. Still my joy and passion is gone. It broke me and the pieces are to small to fix.
I can hear this song maybe once a month, because it's too close for me. After 8!!!! years fighting for a home I finally have a place for me and my daughters. That's what makes me happy, allthough it all still haunts me.
thank you for your reaction Cosmos.
Monica thank you so much for sharing! Appreciate you!
Thinking of you, friend Cosmic, and your gentle soul. You are not alone as you process this song. While I haven't commented before, it doesn't mean you haven't touched my heart.
You are incredibly kind Kat 😊
This is one of those songs that helped me cry (weep!) when I needed to but didn't know how to on my own. Music is therapy. I'm so grateful to Nightwish. You have a beautiful heart, brother.
Much love dude, I appreciate you😊
I concur!
Tuomas is a genius, and extremely empathetic human being, and watching him perform this song is exhilarating and heartbreaking at the same time. This song is exceptional in every way, but it needed Floor, she took it to another level.
Yeha I freaking love Tuomas so freaking much favorite musician of all time I listen to everything he makes Auri Nightwish, his concept album about Scrooge McDuck
@@digitalmouse3314 The Scrooge album is amazing
Agreed. Imagine how Tuomas must have felt when he unlocked Floor and Floor in turn, unlocked him. Two amazing artists coming together and making each other even better.
Don’t apologize for your emotions. That’s what makes your channel interesting in a sea of reaction channels. Seeing you so affected by music, especially by my favorite band, Nightwish, and sharing what/why you are feeling, is vulnerable and opens your listeners/watchers up, too. Nightwish gives me so many feelings and an outlet for same that I hadn’t tapped into in a long time. This is not background music!
No matter how many times I've seen this video, I still have the goosebumps, chills, and hair standing on end. I also tear up with emotions of sadness. While many other videos, no matter how often I've seen them, I always have the goosebumps, chills, and hair standing on end. I have such a feeling of awe of the music and Floor's voice and vocals it brings me to tears in a good way. They are tears of appreciation and a state of being awe struck. The first video I saw Floor in was Ghost Love Score at Wacken 2013. I was so moved by many emotions. I have probably viewed it well over 100 times, watching how others react to seeing Nightwish for the first time with that video. It is the number one video of reaction videos of all time on RUclips. Some reactions you might hear are the ones seeing it for the first time, they never heard of Nightwish. Then some even say why is this anyone's first time. I gave purchased many DVD's and CD's of Nightwish. Nightwish is the band I would most like to see live someday. I know and have the feeling you are going to enjoy the journey of music and performances live and in concert.
Jeff, we have to see em live!!!
Snap. Poet really moves me and, yes, I was another whose intro to and capture by Floor was Wacken 13 GLS. You would like to see them live someday. I was so fortunate that within a couple of days of that Jan6 2022 encounter with GLS I had got tickets for the family to see NW at Birmingham in November. A night to remember. Probably at least a couple of years before they tour again, but, if you get the chance take it.
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody Indeed we do. I live in Green Bay, Wisconsin. But I'm willing to travel to see them.
One of the Most beautiful
pieces written by a Modern composer.
Tuomas is an absolute GENIUS.
Thanks Nightwish🤘
Thank You so Much
from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Kiitos 🇫🇮
Couldn't agree more! Greetings from West Virginia
yeah dude, 45 year old man over here in mississippi just steady flowing tears to this every damn time... it just hits. thanks for the reminder, be well.
appreciate you Dan! Keep being amazing dude
My favorite amongst all the amazing Nightwish songs. Tuomas can write such amazing songs, and Floor has such a way to make you feel the emotions thru her vocals. Such a talented band.
so true!
Not only does she sing this song, she has had the same path of emotions as Tuomas had to deal with...hence her "breaking" voice, she felt it, but her professionality made her snap out of that .... Sad that "this" Nightwish is no more.
Tuomas is a genius composer, man and the music, the words yeah Amazing
Nightwish is my top favorite band. I am metal guy, this symphonic metal music by Tuomas hits me every time. I was seeing them live June 16th 2023, I tell you, if you have a chance to go seeing them live, go! It was so great and my heart burned for them, forever ❤And the last song they performed (usually they play that song) was The Greatest Show On Earth. Man that was beyond epic live 🤘Great reaction, keep going. Greetings from Finland, Oulu city 😎
Greetings! Appreciate you so much!😊
I was in Kitee to..A memory for lifetime.👍👍👍
This opus is genius..... Thanks for doing "it" this way and not in reality, Tuomas. We need your music.... and to see you singing along to this!!!! Thank you also to Anette Olzon for making this possible to be heard....... if not for you being there...... Marko sang the demo - all of it darker, grittier, nastier..... 9:53 "3 minutes & counting....." - 12:53 Tuomas "cuts" his head off! Such details in the midst of all that emotion! "Dead Boys Poem" is another telling introspective Tuomas revelation.... Floor's empathy, as always, shines!
I heard Tuomas call Dead Boy's Poem the Mother of all Nightwish songs.... whenever his lyrics reference Dead Boy, or Ocean Soul... he is talking about himself
I loved your reaction, I was waiting for this one.
It's big, to me it's the ultimate Nightwish song. Maybe even in this particular performance. All band members are at their absolute best, having the perfect chemistry to totally bring it to the masterpiece it is.
Tiny piece of feedback: please just watch the video till the very end. Including the applause, sometimes you miss out on some nice gestures and details because you tend to stop half a minute before it ends.
Yea I heard the thank you. It was sooo nice!
This song is a true masterpiece and I am glad this exceptional recording exists because I don't think it will be performed live again (notwithstanding the band on touring hiatus).
I am so relieved Tuomas had a way to find catharsis through music because the turmoil, the crisis, the voices inside that tell you to go are so dangerous that there was a chance we could have lost him.
I Can feel the pain and anguish, feel the sorrow, as Tuomas shares this beautifully composed song. And Floor's voice! It just reaches deep into my heart. You're right, this is more than just a band. This song has been here for me when I couldn't express myself. Thank you for sharing this today. And thank you for creating this space for us all to connect and share.
This...was something. I to be honest never expected to cry so much on videos. I'm a deeply empathic person, but try to keep myself in check for the glorious internet. But ya...I cant hold back
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody Your reactions are genuine and I really appreciate that. From one Empathic person to another, never hold back. Loved catching up with you and everyone here today.
Nightwish - was - is - and will - never be just a band - Nightwish is an extremely close-knit family and that includes even the fans. On the one hand, this makes the band strong, but it also makes the fans strong. Unfortunately, such a positive interaction is far too rare in today's world.
Go to a Nightwish concert and you'll be able to feel it outside the stadium or hall.
I need to see em when they come to the east coast
Without a doubt, this is the finest piece of rock music ever written.
Well done. You know Cosmic, you end your videos with some very positive messages, usually sending a single uplifting message, priceless for sure for those who need to hear it. I want to pass one on to you now, echoing Tuomas' beautiful affirmation from the last verse, "You have such oceans within". Take care of yourself, and thanks for great reaction.
I hope one day you will understand how much that means to me...more than you realize😊
I feel that a The Greatest Show On Earth will be here soon. You will regret not choosing the Tampere version! Also, Dead Boys Poem is also a must.
Ohhh I may have something coming soon lol
@@TheWolffAndTheMelodyRemember the Tampere version. And it should be the longest video.
@@tobimobiv1 some of us still prefer the Wembly version.......;-)
@@duizeltjeeekhoorn6890 I prefer the Nightwish version 😊
@@paisa20 best answer!
This was Tuomas....erm...unaliving himself in music so he didn't do it for real. Turning to his art to express himself. Save himself. If this doesn't move you, I don't want to know you. This is a genius baring his soul.....raw humanity on display. They don't play it often, but I am glad there's a record of it somewhere. It should be recorded and witnessed for the ages.
It took me a long time to listen to this without crying, this song touch so deeply 😢
I felt it sooo early
PSA full disclosure coming... i am a type to bury my feelings. Sometimes for me, certain NW songs are a way to let loose, in a safe way. This is one of the songs, Tuomas and Floor can make me feel again.
But enough about me, this again is a piece of art and yes, Tuomas baring it all for everyone to see. TY cosmic for the parting words and caring thoughts, they are appreciated and everyone needs to hear them from time to time. You are loved, you are needed, you are valued, you DO matter in this world! Peace and love all!
Its amazing what music does to us...simply amazing
This song makes me cry every time
dude...its rough
Tuomas is a genius poet and floor perfectly portrayed the character he wrote about in this song perfectly. So fucking happy I discovered these guys when I was in the lowest point of my life. They helped me alot
The line "I can't cry, cause the shoulder cries more" kind of sums up the anguish that Tuomas felt when you realize that the shoulder that he cried on was Tarja's.
it's beautiful and kind of rare to see one react like the way you do - you feel very honest and true to you self about your feelings and are not afraid to show it, and I admire that . I have personally shed alot of tears to this song but only when i've been all alone. thank you once again for a great reaction and keep it up man!
appreciate that dann
This is a masterpiece by Tuomas sung by the best female voice, so touching.
Always gets to me 🥹
A truly unique piece of musical artistry. Tuomas showing his inner being and his soul to the world. Respect for being man enough to allow us into his inner emotions.
I used to cry like a baby at the end of this song, but thankfully, 500 listens later i think I'm over it 😂😂
lol then boom hits ya again!
One of the most, if not THE most, emotionally hard-hitting pieces of music ever made at least to my knowledge. This performance still leaves me all teary-eyed every damn time, the whole song is like a giant steamroller of emotions and then to top it all, that last "mother and father" part with Floor singing those lines like an absolute siren and Marko harmonising along..., if that doesn't pull your heartstrings i don't think you have any. Beautiful reaction man, you're obviously a thoughtful guy with depth to your soul and that's always welcome in a time when empty barrels make the most noise.
Nightwish since 1999 and journey continues
This one is another really heart wrenching song from the heart of our metal Mozart, Tuomas Holopainen. It is incredible on so many levels that it just drives a spike through your soul. I loved your reaction to this masterpiece.
appreciate you Rick so much!
This song for me so perfectly encapsulates the absolute swirling, manic, desperate chaos that is your mind when trying to process trauma, angst, depression and what other might wrongfully judge you for. All of this is, as you said, is usually kept behind a neutral mask so no one can see the storms inside. It is a very, very painful and lonely process. In the end you are very lucky if you find someone who can anchor you, like in the end of this song. Not someone to cure, calm or fix you but just an unjudging anchor that enables you to go through the process. In the end the feeling that lingers in one of sad acceptance, but with the ability to start anew.
Damn, this comment turned out way more poetic than I initially intended but I can't think of any other song that is appropriate for this.
Love your Nightwish reactions, looking forward to more of them! (I recommend Seven Days to the Wolves🙂)
You always are so thoughtful! Keep being amazing Anco!!! I may or may not have that reaction coming
That song moved me. I tattooed the pendulum at the back of my left calf like 5 years ago.
Thats soooo awesome dude
Nightwish Army South Germany Division
Nightwish is much more than a band. They are like a family, closely connected. When Floor first came to them, they probably didn't realize how quickly and how tightly the gang grew and bonded with their arrival.
Thuomas is the head but Floor is the heart and soul of the group.
And you could see how strong these ties are when Thuomas said later that Floor isn't the third singer, but the final one.
You have searched ..... and found.
And this is exactly what makes Nightwish so unique.
About the masterpiece: It was a difficult and hard time for Thuomas and the others.
He wrote all this from the soul when he created this very personal masterpiece.
And it hurts, as you can clearly see in several close-ups. This was also the reason that Emppu stood next to him for so many minutes to give him mental support. It is said that he asked the sound engineer to block Floor's voice from his earphones. It would have been even harder and more painful to hear her voice.
And her quiet thanks only came from her after she had convinced herself that Thuomas was fine.
At the same time, this was the end of an era and the beginning of a new one. The first two words were : The End and the last two : The Beginning.
That says it all.
Heart strings tugged, to the point of breaking.
Brows beaten.
Soul Scoured.
Innocence burned upon a pyre.
3 minutes and counting; the time you have before drowning. And when you count it's exactly 3 minutes before the blade falls.
such a powerful performance i have been listening to nightwish since 2002 and all i can say is even since floor jansen stepped to that mic she is some holy fire
Great reaction this song never gets old and touches your soul Tuomas is a poet and an empath and shares his soul in his music he doesn't just write music for music sake like many other bands but shares a piece of himself and that connects with many of us. His music may not be ordinary but is unique like the fine wine he drinks.
I think the reason this song can be so powerful on a personal level is that you experience the torment and then the healing. It´s absolutely incredible how it has helped me process pain and to experience beauty again. Kiitos Tuomas
Floor's haunting siren wailing at the end of the song, reaches me to my bones every time.
truly a gift
When you stand on the precipice of suicide, you are often angry. You are sad, and with that sadness is anger, a desire to blame someone (or more), and that is reflected subtly in this song. It is hard to hear if you have stood at that edge. I suppose Floor has massive strength to sing this without having a problem. Her ability to detach while still putting feeling into this is astonishing. Anette had to sing this at one NW concert. That one day, she found out she lost a custody hearing. When singing this song during the concert, she lost her composure and went running off stage.
Dark Passion Play is well named. Many of the songs are angry or sad. One song never played live or even in a video "Master, Passion, Greed" is sung by Marco only and was directed at Tarja's husband. "Bye, Bye, Beautiful" was aimed at Tarja herself. These triggered the Tarja song "Enough". Both Tuomas and Tarja took a LOT of crap in the Finnish media. One Finnish government official publicly dumped on Tuomas. Tarja would eventually move out of the country. A public letter firing her after the private letter was not a good thing looking back. Business is business, and if they could have just agreed to buy out Tarja's remaining year (which she may have sued for anyway), they could have made separate or together announcement of her leaving and people might have been disappointed, but moved on. Between airing the dirty laundry and purposely embarrassing Tarja by releasing the letter, Tarja was bound to respond. Tarja appeared on TV crying and answering questions. She was just fired, humiliated by the public airing of the letter, how was the band expecting her to respond? Tarja got the solo career she wanted. NW moved on and became more popular. With the expansion of the Internet and reactions seen on YT, there has been an expanding audience for a lot of artists.
And now you know why Tuomas said no-one will perform this after Floor. Her empathy shone through this song. And perhaps now listen to her singing an earlier song performed in Buenos Aires in 2018/19, Dead Boys Poem. So beautiful and moving.
I see that completely
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and emotions with us ! Your intro is very kind to us.
I can't talk about this peculiar song wich I can't hear without a tear. Eveyrone reacts emotionnally to different type of song; Floor's voice mixd with Marlo's one and the riffs and rhythms at the beginning make this song one of my tissue song.
Wow, thank you for sharing Sage! much love to you
Great reaction dude, its always wonderful when people understand the depth of this piece, infact of Nightwish music, in general - its not just catchy choruses, heavy riffs or whatever else that people look for in music, this is the scenery of Tuomas's soul, his very being made music - and brought to life by a band who aren't just great musicians, but also deeply empathic, who feel this deeply themselves. Great reaction dude 🤘
Much love Jim!
We are happy to share this journey with you Cosmic! My free tip for the day is this:
In many countries/languages, the letter J is pronounced as a Y. So, Tarja = Tarya and Jansen = Yansen. That said, there is nothing wrong with the Americanized pronunciation, even if it is technically incorrect. In the same vein, the W in German is pronounced like a V, so Wacken = Vahken.
Only a few words. You fell this Masterpiece from Tuomas. Great reaction 🤘🤗greetings from nothern Germany
Greetings from West Virginia! I loved this!
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody 🤘
Like your reaction. Tuomas’ Nightwish songbook is itself great, but then there is Poet. It stands alone as his magnum opus, quite unbelievable the soul baring emotion within. And add Floor. I do love Annette, the original singer, but only Floor carries each nuance of emotion, not just singing it but fully living it. This composition, and this performance are truly a high water mark of artistic achievement,
completely agree! This was felt in so many levels
Agreed. The studio version of this song is great, but this performance elevated it to legendary. It so beautifully allows every band member's strengths shine through - Kai's incredible precision, Marko's glorious voice, Emppu's virtuosity providing exactly what the song needs without overpowering, and of course Floor.
If you haven't heard it, I highly recommend tracking down the original demo of this song. It was cut before Annette even joined the band and Marko sings it all. It's powerfully raw.
@@GregLundChaix yes marko’s very dark demo version I rate over the final Album version.
@@GregLundChaix I agree. The demo version with Marko is raw, dark and passionate. Well worth a listen.
they don't make hits they make pieces of music such good composers such beautiful music the
When "mother & father" starts my eyes always get wet like I´m chopping a bag of onions...
If you notice when it says only have three minutes and counting. Exactly. 3 minutes is when he crosses his hand underneath his neck.
Thanks for your reaction, Wolff! NW is an example of great synergy of brilliant composer and song writer, outstanding musicians, perfect voices and amazing spirit! Love them soooooo much! ❤
Thank you for a Great reaction🤘🇫🇮
much love 😊
Skimming the comments I think everything's been said, a hauntingly beautiful masterpiece, thank you for your great and understanding reaction to this unbelievable song, band and of course composer 🇬🇧
"tx God for health, tx for the love of friends and family, and tx for Tuomas Holopaïnen 🤟" that's me before bed 😄
If something, this song makes me tear up, every single time.
right? Its pretty heavy
There are 3 songs that have the power to make me cry. This is one of them .
Thanks, Cosmic, for this reaction!
appreciate ya Sandra! Much love to you.
Hello
The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen.
This is one of the interpretations and i know lots of fans do not agree, they just need to read the open letter that was given to Tarja by the whole band at her last concert with Nightwish, where they fired her. And the main reason that Tuomas went through a depression was that specially the Tarja fans where furious and showed that in the media and everyone was blaming Tuomas. (the fans spit on his grave). He felt the whole world was against him.
However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does.
The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly.
Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen
Greetings from the Netherlands
Much love to you! Greetings from West Virginia!
There is a demo of this song on You Tube that features Marco doing all the vocals, so I'm guessing the song was written before they hired Anette Olzon. Probably re-worked the arrangements a bit for her for the album version. But Floor sings with such an emotional connection to the song it just makes it even more impactful. No wonder Tuomas had the sound engineer turn off the vocals in his earpiece when they used to play this in concert. Don't think they play it anymore live.
That piece of music can make grown men cry. You look deep into the soul of Tuomas at a time when darkness has taken over, but at the same time so beautiful and full of hope 🙂
It's an effort to understand The Poet, everything is said, but nothing is said out loud. It's not until you have read both letters, read online, seen interviews and read the excellent analysis that's out there that you can begin to truly understand everything that's written between the lines. That's when you can put what's suggested into context and understand the big picture with all its details. That's when you graduate The Nightwish Academy. For me this became an obsession, I bought the books by Poe and King and even a bible to get the references in Marko's part.
And dude think about it this way. None of these(except Troy Donockley) are native english speakers and still they can project all the emotion to the audience so purely and beautifully. Their own languages don't sound like english even a bit. :)
Great reaction dude. Your words are real. I'm glad to hear you. I love those guys. They are part of my life. Thanks man.
Thank's for beeing there!
I'm sorry, I can't afford a Patron membreship monthly. Have allready canceld YT Prime, Amazon Prime, ...
We're going though rough times. But I think, if a lot of people give a little, it could help a lot!
Big bearhugs from Germany 🤘
Bibs! Im just glad you are here. Please know that no matter what, I appreciate you just being here.
I swear, have never made it and pretty surely will never make it through the song without shedding a tear, well, actually crying like a baby... such a masterpiece on every level. Incredible what music is able to do with us..
I absolutely love your reactions to NW. You give it the "reverence" that it deserves. Thank you.
Aww! Thank you Diane! You are so sweet. This music is so special.
The brilliance, nuance and mastery of Tuomas’ songwriting and lyrics never ceases to amaze me. If you run a timer from where he says “I have 3 minutes and counting “ it is at 3 minutes when he simulates with his hand the pendulum cutting his throat. Amazing!🤘🤘
sooooo good.
And there you have it at last. My no 1 Nightwish song. Again, DPP was released only 16 years ago so you got it pretty much fresh from release
Accumulated thoughts on the song and the performance...
Tuomas is a very special person and this is, for me, the pinnacle of his work.
Nothing surpasses it.
For him it is one of the deepest songs.
Quotes from the band on the making of the album and the song...
TUOMAS: We will never play "Bye Bye Beautiful" or "Master Passion Greed" live again, [sic] because the lyrics are just too unambiguous and personal. There was at least as much gloom behind "The Poet and the Pendulum", too, but it leaves a bit more room for interpretation. It's easily one of our best songs but especially, the "Mother and Father'" part in the end always stirs up such a storm of emotions that it's impossible for me to do it every night. Playing "The Poet and the Pendulum' is a real rollercoaster ride - it makes me feel anxious, blush, laugh, and, in the end, just happy that that part of my life is behind me.
My notes:
My number 1 Nightwish song and for good reasons.
(No 2, Song of Myself, No 3 7 Days to the Wolves.)
This is a deeply emotional and meaningful song with which I empathise and it helped me to see that there was a way forward when depression struck. I am not alone in being "saved" by Nightwish, a fact that Tuomas has referred to and said he could not terminate the band because he knows they have meant so much to some fans who feel their lives have been saved by Nightwish.
He feels that he has a responsibility to the fans - not your standard rock musician then.
Floor is worth watching closely, her facial, hand and whole-body motions reflect the emotions she is portraying. Hands in Mother and Father for example. Tearing her hair in the Dark Passion Play section.
Note that when Tuomas talks about "Poet" he is always referencing himself. It happens throughout his ouvre.
You will see other cross-references too. Tuomas does that deliberately to give the fans a sort of anchor. Meadows of Heaven is another example - a song in itself and often referenced.
For what it's worth, here are are my thoughts and interpretations...
End to beginning - death of one era of the band, beginning of a new era.
Regarding the end of the first Era, I see no point in the blame game.
The band split, that is all we need to know.
Whatever the causes there was bound to be emotion on both sides so I leave it at that.
But this masterpiece is what came out of Tuomas' emotions.
The beginning is a boy soprano, Guy Elliott who also does the spoken parts. The whispering at the beginning is the central spoken section, but played in reverse.
Then we get the whole section "Home".
I see the "shoulder cries more" as having no shoulder to cry on because the other members of the band - his friends - were equally upset.
The "whore for the cold world" I see as the selling of his whole life to the music industry (the metaphorical pimps, hence the "whore" references) which is not interested in the person, only what they can get from the band.
The two faces bit is self explanatory; almost everyone will have been in situations where they have to hide their feelings and present a false front to the world.
The reference to betrayal is again obvious and there are lots of metaphors in the surrounding words. The altar I think, is the tie to the band - these upheavals in 2004/5 were not the first time Tuomas had felt like ending the band.
By the way, note the 3 minutes and counting: exactly 3 minutes later you get the guillotine motion.
By the way, Marco made the demo version of this, with all the lyrics sung by himself and with harsher lyrics at this point too.
Next we get to the Mother and Father section with Floor, Marco and Emppu all sitting, while Floor sings lyrics reflecting the words from his mother when he went back home for a break in the middle of all this turmoil.
These are the words of love and then of advice, that he was given.
Floor here is using her finger movements to accentuate emotion.
This whole section and the way Floor sings it, is packed with those damned Onion Ninjas.
Marco's harmonies are wonderful.
We end with the final ethereal notes from Floor and here is another tingle-factor moment. Then a gentle piano ending, the calm after the emotional storm.
Here, as in Sparkle my Scenery, the choir on the original album is replaced by Floor who wanted to sing them herself (and proved completely capable of it) which Anette could not have done - she could probably get the notes but the emotion is there in the choral original and is amplified when Floor sings it.
The low brass used in many places is really effective.
On the performance itself:
When Emppu goes over to Tuomas and later both Marco and Emppu go over, it is a sign of moral support. They both know how difficult this is for him - eventually he had the vocals turned off in his in-ear, so he didn't have to listen to them because Floor put such emotion into them.
At the end, she does not say "Thank you" immediately, as she does normally. Instead she looks over for a few seconds to check on him from her position.
BTW, I have never bought the theory that Tuomas was "in love" with Tarja. Those who say he asked her to join the band because he knew her from school - she was suggested by Emppu who had known her as an acquaintance at school.
This is the song that forever hooked me to nightwish. I can’t think of anything artistic that speaks more to me than this song. I have cried so many times to this it’s almost impossible.
Its such an amazing song
I'm sure a lot of this is already touched on but I also won't to provide some input as well.
He wrote this song because he felt the need to figuratively kill himself in music so that he would not do it in real life.
In most performances of this song he has the sound engineers cut off his in ears to the vocal track so that he cannot hear her sing.
Especially at the very end when you saw Marco and Emmpu flanking him on either side to basically block out his perception of Floor.
Another thing to note. During the part where the child was talking in the middle. He states that he only has three minutes left and counting.
If you go back and look at the time stamp, exactly three minutes after that, is when Tuomas slits his throat.
Hi 😄 or good morning. Watching you since your first reaction but didn't say Hallo 😶. Thank you for your reactions, warm words and an enthusiasm, that makes one 😃. Greetings from Germany 🤗 and Parkinson's sucks ⚘ but EMPPU RULES 😎🤘 alex
Greetings to you! Hello to you as well! So glad you are here, and I really do appreciate all the kind words friend!
This song is life.
Changes, the end and beginning of relationships, the pure truth of you with yourself when you're alone, family...
its sooo good
This has to be one of the greatest bands ever.
no doubt
Brother, I've watched a few of your videos as you've gone down the Nightwish rabbit hole, and this video just led me to subscribe. It's impossible to get into the music of Nightwish and not be a changed person. They lay it all on the table and their music has such power to take you through the whole range of emotions. This song gives me chills from start to finish every time - it is their masterpiece. Glad we got to experience it together.
First of all, thanks for taking time. I dont take it for granted, and 2nd you are so right. I was not prepared for all the layers and complexity of this band
This is my special song from NW...it's the one that touches me the most.
I really appreciate your reactions. Tuomas and Floor are true masters at expressing emotions through music. And that is the essence of music.
This is the masterpiece, this live performance that got me hooked on Nightwish and Floor 16 months ago having reached 56 years of age and having not heard of them before. Tuomas at 15:06 gets me every time as does Floor always. Thank you to my good friend who pestered me in to listening to this phenomenal band. 🙏😊👍❤️
This Wembley and Tampere recordings are great, both from the same tour in 2015. A must have in your dvd/blu-ray collection, along with Wacken of course.
I have got to get these blu rays!
It was my first Nightwish song too - a friend at work gave me a heads up to check out this new album from a band I’d never heard of, which was Dark Passion Play. So my first song of their was “Poet…” … I didn’t know what I was in for when I hit play, but it was a wild an beautiful ride, as was the rest of the album, and I also used his collection to listen to “Once”, which is still my fave NW album to this day. Then I got into the back catalogue, and Imaginaerum when that was released, and I did get to see them live here in Sydney in about 2008.
Now that I know about the Tarja’s dismissal, the open letter, the fans backlash etc, the song means so much more, and I can understand why it’s painful to Tuomas … the quote of his that he killed himself in this song so he didn’t have to do it in real ife is a staggering admission, and we’re all the better for him delivering this catharsis!
… but even without the subtext, it’s a masterpiece of a song, and Floor’s vocals in this show are just the icing on the cake
thats so cool! Yea, I had no idea what I was getting into. Took me 15 years to understand.
So much to say about this song! Literally it's one of the absolute best in the whole Nightwish Catalogue, but that goes without saying! Tuomas normally actually has the vocals turned off in his ear monitors because the lyrics are so painful for him. Also did you notice that the guys keep going over to check on him and encourage him? It's all round difficult song for him to perform due to it's intense personal nature.
My biggest and most favorite part of this song, however, is that at or around the 9:50 mark it says thats he's been "strapped on this alter" and that he "Only has 3 minutes and counting". Now go three minutes forward into the song and that is when the blade falls and Tuomas commits suicide through the song, which is why he does a motion of cutting his own throat. Due to all the dark and negative emotions he was experiencing at the time, he contemplated suicide, but chose this method of expression as the alternative to real suicide. It's a brilliant piece of song writing and deserves to be more well noted.
Thanks for your excellent reaction, keep them coming!
There music has taken on a totally different meaning after learning the history.
@@TheWolffAndTheMelody I think listening to Nightwish without learning about their history and what they really stand for does quite a disservice to them as a band and as individual musicians because as you said, it's more than just a band.
This beginning part of this song is my favourite.
Its so brutal
This is exactly how you listen to music, you first find out why the song was made at all, usually there is a very big and important reason why it exists. And how much better is the experience when you understand why something happens, such as this song where Tuomas takes his life in order to endure and be able to live on.
This song gets me every single time, it is a true masterpiece of writing, and this was the perfect performance of the song, The Poet was about Tuomas's feelings around the firing of Tarja, I think Tuomas really loved Tarja but hated what she became with her husband.
A great song to watch is "I want my tears back" live from Buenos Aries in 2018, to see the other side of Floor, her reaction to the crowd before tha song even started was so playful and joyous, I absolutley love this song, it always make even the worst of days so much better
much love dude. This was awesome
Thanks
15:06 We very rarely see Tuomas sing but here in the 5th part, Mother and father, you can see him scream on the top of his lungs. What he screams or vents we can not know and mustn't speculate on. It's as much of a private matter as it can be. I really hate when reporters ask such questions and claim it's in the interest of the fans. NO! Whatever it is I hope that it helps him, even though many years have past the song is a heavy load on his shoulders. There are scars that never completely heal.
It was so hard time for him specially but also for the rest of the band...what happened in 2005. He puts out his feelings here with so majestic and emotional way at the same time. This is their first song ever without Tarja. Tuomas was about to end NW but fortunately not. Check also "Bye Bye Beautiful" and "Master Passion Greed" both dealing the same issue.
Every time when i hear that spoken part more less in the middle of the song which says "3 minutes and counting" and after exactly 3 minutes in the song Tuomas making that blade cutting his head off gesture i have massive goosebumps
You can really feel the mental anguish and the pain in the "hectic" parts of this song, like his soul is being battered and torn.
agreed!
Thank you sir. It's probably the only song that needs a background so thank you for doing that as it makes the song so much more.
WOW! Cosmic can't believe you got round to this one so quickly, I had tears rolling down my face watching you. A real heartfelt review of the song. Tuomas was at his lowest when he wrote this, after firing Tarja (pronounced Tarya) who was a friend along with Emppu. Tuomas wrote this from the Edgar Allen Poe story, "The pit & The Pendulum" The band almost finished at this point, but thankfully decided to carry on. The song affected Tuomas so much that he asked the sound engineers to mute the vocals in his earpiece while playing live. Also Emppu and Marko stand next to him at the end in a show of help and support!
Unfortunately this is the last time they will play this song live. You say you have gone down the Nightwish rabbit hole, it's more like a termite mound, overflowing with deep, dark and meaningful music.
I must apologise I have only just subscribed, I have been so hooked on your reviews that I hadn't realised I'd missed it.
Keep 'em coming.
Howl! I really appreciate you sharing and helping me with underdstanding this bands rich history.