Seeing this as a BA resident scares the hell out of me. As where our house is, knowing that these streets are more narrow than the one in this video. With idiots parking full size pickup trucks large SUV's and work vehicles on both sides of the street, and with empty driveways. The B.A. Fire will never make it down the street with that ladder truck. Even worse is we use the Ambulance service, not sure if they will fit down the street. I am a retired Firefighter.
The ladder truck picked the best spot. The second engine was in the front where a large tree blocked the "A" side. If the ladder had set up on the "A" side, it would have had to contend with the tree that was blocking the second story. If the ladder had set up on the "AD" side, the water angle to the fire would have been blocked by the over the grange bedroom. The best side to attack the fire was on the "AB" side. Good job fellow firefighters. Not every fire - fight is perfect, but this was darn close to it!
I hate it when I hear people say, "You can't do nuttin with a hose." It's patently absurd. Now you have to be careful not to put yourself in harms way or get yourself burned or trapped to the extent that someone has to come rescue you... But beyond that, you can to a hellova lot. Because ANYTHING you do can slow the progress of the fire and that means more of the home is left standing for when the firefighters arrive. In fact, I wouldn't stop until firefighters are actually putting water on it themselves. Because even after they arrive, it can take several minutes before they are applying water.
A garden hose is pointless against most fires simply because a garden hose can not flow the gallons per minute necessary to extinguish an advanced fire. Fires burn too hot and extend to fast so the small amount of water that one can supply turns to steam and evaporates before it can do any good. It is also not sufficient to protect a neighboring structure, for the same reason, if a fire has reached the point where radiant heat begins to ignite surrounding structures, the hose can not sustain enough water to prevent it from evaporating immediately. If they were adequate you would see them on fire apparatus.
The worst positioning ever. Ambulance almost blocks engine and truck (at least slows them down). truck should have been in front of the house but that place was taken by a second engine ???
4:15 at least the chief’s buggy is out of the way. I’ve seen videos where the chief parks right in front of the fire building and prevents everything from good positioning.
ambo positioning is a bit ass but the truck is in the best spot given conditions, if it were to park directly in the front as it would on most other fire scenes it would have been cut off by the tree, from the spot where it is it can get master stream onto the portion of the fire that burned through the roof, while crews use ground ladders off the engines to get up and vent if needed
😢😅😅😊😊a big massive thanks to everyone who responds and works around the clock to keep us safe out there way to go as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion chief who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated even fd and pd responding great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud really enjoyed and appreciate the vidoes please keep them safe out there and coming appreciate you guys thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what started the house fire please don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks way to go very hopefully red cross will help out right ?!!!! Joe
Why even have a Truck Company on the box if the Engine Companies aren't going to give it placement on the A side?! And why is that ambulance that close?! Utterly painful.
Poor ICS . If the truck company was blocked by the ambulance then it needed to move or the Captain or ff should have moved the ambulance. The truck does no good if the crew can’t get to the roof the most efficient way. The stick goes up the crew gets on the roof, ventilate the attic etc. Again BAFD needs to get better training and possibly a new Fire Chief.
They can still carry ground ladders. The fire was self-vented already, truck crew belongs inside hooking ceilings for the fire attack. Can always reposition the truck later, but with the poor ambulance placement, they’d waste too much time trying to get in place anyway.
Poor "ICS" doesn't even make sense. ICS is Incident Command System, not tactics. The roof is already vented, nothing left to vent. Get inside with hooks and go to work.
As a career firefighter for 33 years and a district chief for the past 11, I can honestly tell you that if you’re on a engine, and your assigned the water can, you better have one in hand. Room and contents fires can be controlled with a “can”. It’s easy to be an “arm chair fire chief” but without being there you have no idea what orders were given as far as placement of the apparatus. I do agree that the ambulance did park in a bad location. These looked like career firefighters and if they aren’t they definitely looked like they had their sh*t together. The biggest problem with today’s houses is the light weight construction. I recently had my new house built and I refused to use engineered floor joists. The contractor said it would increase the price. I said I don’t care. Then the drawing showed vinyl siding. I said NO, I want the entire house to be bricked and replace the vinyl with metal siding. The contractor said that would increase the price. I said I don’t care. When your putting vinyl siding on a house, your essentially adding a highly flammable material. Vinyl siding is made out of petroleum based products. You might as well spray your house with kerosene. Same thing. These newer houses are getting people killed. Floor joists ( engineered) are burning through in less than 15 minutes. If you’re sleeping upstairs and you have a fire below you studies show you barely have enough time to get out before the floor is compromised.
Guess moving the ambulance was not going to happen, so truck could get closer
Seeing this as a BA resident scares the hell out of me. As where our house is, knowing that these streets are more narrow than the one in this video. With idiots parking full size pickup trucks large SUV's and work vehicles on both sides of the street, and with empty driveways. The B.A. Fire will never make it down the street with that ladder truck. Even worse is we use the Ambulance service, not sure if they will fit down the street. I am a retired Firefighter.
They will plow threw if they need too
That fire made a bee line for the attic.
The ladder truck picked the best spot. The second engine was in the front where a large tree blocked the "A" side. If the ladder had set up on the "A" side, it would have had to contend with the tree that was blocking the second story. If the ladder had set up on the "AD" side, the water angle to the fire would have been blocked by the over the grange bedroom. The best side to attack the fire was on the "AB" side. Good job fellow firefighters. Not every fire - fight is perfect, but this was darn close to it!
Notice that gray Jeep parked in front of the fire hydrant.
so that's what a $350,000 BBQ look like
Nice video. Congrats on getting your first BA fire!
I hate it when I hear people say, "You can't do nuttin with a hose." It's patently absurd. Now you have to be careful not to put yourself in harms way or get yourself burned or trapped to the extent that someone has to come rescue you... But beyond that, you can to a hellova lot. Because ANYTHING you do can slow the progress of the fire and that means more of the home is left standing for when the firefighters arrive. In fact, I wouldn't stop until firefighters are actually putting water on it themselves. Because even after they arrive, it can take several minutes before they are applying water.
A garden hose is pointless against most fires simply because a garden hose can not flow the gallons per minute necessary to extinguish an advanced fire. Fires burn too hot and extend to fast so the small amount of water that one can supply turns to steam and evaporates before it can do any good.
It is also not sufficient to protect a neighboring structure, for the same reason, if a fire has reached the point where radiant heat begins to ignite surrounding structures, the hose can not sustain enough water to prevent it from evaporating immediately.
If they were adequate you would see them on fire apparatus.
So sad for the homeowner 😢
What is this rig placement? Why isnt the ambulance down the road out of the way of other rigs, and with a means of egress???
Do you park your recliner right in front?
paramedics here are also firefighters. but very poor placement for the ambulance.
@@RLTtizME people make comments in hopes other will see them and learn from it.
The worst positioning ever. Ambulance almost blocks engine and truck (at least slows them down). truck should have been in front of the house but that place was taken by a second engine ???
Calm down
@@joshastana849 I'm very calm but these are obvious things.
4:15 at least the chief’s buggy is out of the way. I’ve seen videos where the chief parks right in front of the fire building and prevents everything from good positioning.
ambo positioning is a bit ass but the truck is in the best spot given conditions, if it were to park directly in the front as it would on most other fire scenes it would have been cut off by the tree, from the spot where it is it can get master stream onto the portion of the fire that burned through the roof, while crews use ground ladders off the engines to get up and vent if needed
Take a step back chief!
😢😅😅😊😊a big massive thanks to everyone who responds and works around the clock to keep us safe out there way to go as always excellent outstanding brilliant they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police and the battlion chief who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated even fd and pd responding great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated stay safe and warm out there stay strong and healthy as well much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be proud really enjoyed and appreciate the vidoes please keep them safe out there and coming appreciate you guys thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right wonder what started the house fire please don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks way to go very hopefully red cross will help out right ?!!!! Joe
The idiot was parked in front of the fire hydrant. Plus he’s putting a half off the curbstone it’s got everything blocked.
I was a firefighter about 30 years ago. I could taste that watching this video.😂
Someone might want to tell them the truck needs to be a lot closer to the front of the house
Good advice for the neighbour to spray their own house and reduce the heat. No garden hose can do anything about a house fire.
Yeah but a flower sprayer was beyond ineffective.
That 2 1/2 gal. PWC is a joke
Surprised how call calm everyone seems.
Why can't I share this?
Ladder needed to be two houses closer
Is Broken Arrow Paid or Combination Fire Dept
Fully paid.
Man I’d be buying a better hose and nozzle if I was that neighbor
@edbassmaster sounds like you putting them on the news
Some people just aren't smart enough to own a charcoal grill
Why even have a Truck Company on the box if the Engine Companies aren't going to give it placement on the A side?! And why is that ambulance that close?! Utterly painful.
paramedics here are also firefighters. but like you said poor placement of the ambulance.
@@ClarkdeBear truck companies do truck company work. The aerial is always necessary.
Poor ICS . If the truck company was blocked by the ambulance then it needed to move or the Captain or ff should have moved the ambulance. The truck does no good if the crew can’t get to the roof the most efficient way. The stick goes up the crew gets on the roof, ventilate the attic etc.
Again BAFD needs to get better training and possibly a new Fire Chief.
They can still carry ground ladders. The fire was self-vented already, truck crew belongs inside hooking ceilings for the fire attack. Can always reposition the truck later, but with the poor ambulance placement, they’d waste too much time trying to get in place anyway.
Poor "ICS" doesn't even make sense. ICS is Incident Command System, not tactics. The roof is already vented, nothing left to vent. Get inside with hooks and go to work.
Another fire Broken Arrow seems like they just don’t care about their job.
Their arrow is broken
@@marcopstal9584 Facts!!!!
A guy with a can at this point
What…?
As a career firefighter for 33 years and a district chief for the past 11, I can honestly tell you that if you’re on a engine, and your assigned the water can, you better have one in hand. Room and contents fires can be controlled with a “can”. It’s easy to be an “arm chair fire chief” but without being there you have no idea what orders were given as far as placement of the apparatus. I do agree that the ambulance did park in a bad location. These looked like career firefighters and if they aren’t they definitely looked like they had their sh*t together. The biggest problem with today’s houses is the light weight construction. I recently had my new house built and I refused to use engineered floor joists. The contractor said it would increase the price. I said I don’t care. Then the drawing showed vinyl siding. I said NO, I want the entire house to be bricked and replace the vinyl with metal siding. The contractor said that would increase the price. I said I don’t care. When your putting vinyl siding on a house, your essentially adding a highly flammable material. Vinyl siding is made out of petroleum based products. You might as well spray your house with kerosene. Same thing. These newer houses are getting people killed. Floor joists ( engineered) are burning through in less than 15 minutes. If you’re sleeping upstairs and you have a fire below you studies show you barely have enough time to get out before the floor is compromised.
@@motoxman541 good points
You are spot on with the floor joists
3:50 folks standing there in the smoke must not realize that that’s why firefighters get cancer. 🤦♂️
Why heck was guy carting a water extinguisher
Totally preventable Fire.
99.999999999999% are. Profound.
Did you notice the whole roof was already burning from the inside?
Apparently they ain’t nuttin you can do.
Dude, write the date in a fromat with 4digit year and written month. Like 08. Apr. 2024. Or even Apr 08, 2024. Nobody knows what 08-04-24 means. :-)
I mean I did, and since in your own post you said it refers to date so you do to
who doesnt] know what 08/04/24 means, its the same as 8/4/24
no clue where you're getting April from? This took place in the US hence why he is using M/D/Y
Yep I knew the date right away.
It means August 4, 2024. Not to bright are ya.