Big difference between Marcus and Greyson is the Greyson was in a strong bargaining position. Her enforcers had defeated Silco and Vander's rebellion on the bridge, but instead of destroying them she negotiated with Vander to make peace. Vander never bribes Greyson nor do they threaten or blackmail each other. Meanwhile, Silco arranged it so that Marcus can't break their arrangement without destroying his own career. Marcus loses ground in the relationship every time he takes a bribe and covers up a crime. Marcus is trying to live up to Greyson, but he and Silco aren't even close to being equals at any point.
100% Agree. Although I'd argue it's not even about his career at this point but the risks to his daughters life if he goes against silco. If not for her he would've exposed himself and silco years ago,or tried to kill him.
You have to admit though, Silco has a very strong hand on his people. From shimmer and threats to straight up killing you if you are being stupid. And its not like he is being a bratty dictator. He is cold, calculating and see far more ahead than his followers
In episode 5 when it was first revealed that Marcus was still working with Silco, he even tried the exact same thing Greyson did in episode 1. He said Jinx crossed the line, he had to have someone to make this thing go away, and that arresting Jinx would be doing Silco a favor. That of course was followed by Silco's cigar-cutting power move and "I don't need favors. I need you to do your job". Marcus is a very interesting character. He keeps falling a bit short no matter what he was up to - from trying to find the kids to trying to leave some last words to his daughter.
@@eatandrun8020 I feel like they could have added more depth to Marcus's charicter with his last words, maybe talking about his dead wife or how she died, or revealing another of his views on the situation embedded into the show. I am hoping for flashbacks to do with this in season two
26:47 do you guys notice that Jinx's eyes are grey here? theyre supposed to be blue. Powder's eyes were grey. Its ironic that Ekko said to Vi that Powder is gone forever, when a simple childhood game he initiated actually brought out the Powder in Jinx. This scene reminds me a lot of the final of Squid Game, two best friends playing a deadly version of their childhood game, ended with a hesitation to kill, and a suicide move.. damn..
The fight scene hits alot harder when you know more of the lore In the game, Ekko has an interaction with Jinx saying "I use to have a crush on you, until you started talking to the guns" and in the card game "I miss you so much" and "Powder, I... Nevermind..."
Also realizing the last time vi and ekko actually saw each other was when she was comforting him after him seeing benzo killed and vander taken in episode 3.
We dont knw if they havnt seen each other after what happened. I assumed they did cus Jinx called Ekko "the boy saviour" which probably meant he tried saving her at one point which ofcourse didnt go his way and thts why he has such a strong feeling tht Powder is gone.
Ekkos's stop watch was seen in Ep 4 when the Firelights attacked the airship with all the barrels of shimmer on it, and used the crystal bombs to subdue Sevika and her crew. He said "we have 5 minutes", referring to how long the crystal stuff would hold, as then he started the stop watch.
The mechanical Firelights were build by Jinx in Ep.4 while she is headbanging to the song "Get Jinxed". She probably stole them during the "Progress Day" event as some could be seen flying.
The eye thing is from his fight with Vander, remember he said the dirt was chewing through his nerves. And the Gas thing is like pollution, if you live in a highly polluted area your chances of things like Asthma are higher but not everybody’s gonna get such serious health issues.
Ironically you could argue he psyched both himself and Vi out in opposite ways. Vi just spent all that time arguing with him that Powder's still reachable, that they shouldn't be giving up on her.. only to have Powder walk out of the smoke like a horror monster massacring a dozen people before trying to kill Vi without a word and barely even a hesitation. No wonder Vi's in shocked silence at that moment. Meanwhile Ekko had convinced himself that Powder is just Jinx now. As if Jinx is some entirely separate individual. But Vi's argument, and his own use of a childhood game they played as a gambit in his fight with Powder, broke through that argument he was using to try and convince himself and let him see that.. it's still just Powder. She's buried beneath ~7 years of violent trauma and abuse that she's desperately trying to dissociate herself from, but its all still her.
The Jinx-Ekko fight was the best fight in the whole season in my opinion, it was just so beautifully crafted! I'm just wondering why Ekko gave the hexcore to Vi and Cait when it was his idea to go topside with it. 37:55 One of Ekko's powers in the game is time manipulation, in Ep. 4 he uses the stopwatch to time when his trapping crystals will stop being effective. Also, when we first see Ekko in Arcane his first words is "Give me a few seconds."
I answered this somewhere else but I'll give some of it here. Ekko stayed behind because he was scared of losing vi after just getting her back. He doubted she could reach through to jinx in the first place but was still willing to let her try in the hopes that maybe she could pull it off, however when he woke up the very first thing he saw was jinx firing on her. Had vi and Cait been even a split second slower in reacting(a very real possibility considering Caitlyns leg was messed up) they both would've died right then. They lived through sheer luck. Seeing that, convinced him that trying to talk to jinx wouldn't work and obviously vi would never fight her back, so the end result if she stayed would be her being killed by jinx . Ekko loves vi too. She's the only remaining positive light from his childhood, someone he and powder looked up to immensely. The risk of losing vi is also what finally forced him to fight jinx with actual intent to kill whereas every other fight he's been holding back aiming for non lethal methods against her.(with one exception of rage after she killed eve) Even with her killing his friends he never truly wanted to kill powder, but seeing her attack vi, he decided there was no other option than to put her down permanently because she was too far gone.
From this episode and discussion we all know now that Sam had a big cartoon crush on Jet from Avatar. It’s okay Sam he fooled everyone with that good looking, cool guy persona back in the day 😂
I'm so glad to see some reactors empathize with Marcus and not write him off as a bad guy who deserved to die. I've seen so many reactors who thought this way so it's refreshing to see you all look at things from his perspective
That's exactly how I felt. Every single other reactor just hates him immediately and keeps hating him, up to the point of cheering for his death. It's a little off-putting, considering how much effort people put into empathizing with other characters who are objectively worse people.
@@sanctimoniouslocke3941 While I can empathize with *moments* of his character scenes, I can't empathize with his character overall at all. He legitimately looked at people from the undercity the way plantation owners looked at slaves. He had an extreme ego and wanted to use violence and power to cover his own inadequacies. He had no problems degrading people. Despite feeling bad after the fact, he continued making blood deals with Silco because he saw personal gain. Eventually he had a daughter and he had new reasons to defend himself and was probably in far too deep, but he was still willing to murder ekko and caitlyn in cold blood. He is a fairly irredeemable character IMO. I also think Silco is firmly in the villain category, but he has far more redeeming moments than Marcus by a considerable amount. I agree that completely writing off Marcus' character with no mention of his humanity period is wrong(which many reactors do), but I don't think there's really a lot there to comment on.
@@noobgoestrapping5084 Silco literally tried to murder children, just to make the lie that Vander had abandoned the undercity seem more believable. :v I feel like people tend to find other characters "more redeemable" because we get to see more of their history/internal struggles/interactions with other characters. If we'd gotten to see more what made Marcus the person he was, people might be more sympathetic. For example, consider the circumstances under which we first meet Marcus. A building topside just exploded. People were hurt. The enforcers know that the four suspects are children from the Lanes. They go down there to make the arrest -- for the crime of blowing up a building, remember -- only to be stonewalled at every turn. When they talk to Vander -- essentially a mob boss, given the influence he has over the criminal goings-on down there -- he refuses to help, despite obviously knowing exactly who they're after. That would be... intensely frustrating. A criminal who leads a bunch of criminals, covering up for the criminals who just blew up a building. The workshop was owned by a Council family; there is immense pressure from on high for the Enforcers to locate the criminals *and* the stolen magic gems that, for all they know, could go nuclear at any second and kill dozens more people. Marcus isn't nice to the people in the Lanes. He probably is *significantly* bigoted against them. But under those circumstances, his behavior is understandable. It wasn't *good*, or *right*, but it was understandable. For all we know, up to that point Marcus was a model Enforcer, and it was just the pressure of those circumstances that caused him to go off the rails. I just... think he was done a bit dirty by the writers. Unless they intended for him to be a really ambiguous character, I feel like he needed more screen time to flesh out his inner life.
16:30 It isn't just the undercity air affecting him, he has a degenerative disease, making it worse, so not really so much about being from the undercity itself, though that contributed. I love the Firelights as well, they are so cool. This one hits hard, but strap in ladies, it gets intense in the last two!
Wtf, a reaction that actually understands the dark place Marcus got himself into and didn't immediately write him off for being hotheaded? Where in the world are all the other reactions with actual empathy like this?
I do like how sad they can make the ekko-jinx fight at the same time as make it cool. the thought that they played a game like that as kids, except now, as adults, playing it again. this time the stakes are ekko dies from being shot, or jinx gets beaten to death... it hurts in a very unique way.
League has so many stories that they could tell. Season 1 you saw maybe 9 out of 160 characters that league has. They already confirmed season 2 btw. I anticipate they will start introducing other regions than Piltover and Zaun with season 2. Most likely they will dive into Noxus.
Why would they leave Piltover/Zaun? They've already introduced several characters whose arcs aren't yet complete and still have some growth left to their characters, as well as some others that can be tied in. The season 2 teaser already tells us we're getting Warwick and that could be an entire season into itself, his 'resurrection' and experience in those first days. Beyond that, we've still yet to see Twitch, Blitzcrank, Zac, Ziggs, Janna, Ezreal, Renata, Zeri, Seraphine, Urgot, Dr. Mundo, Orianna or Camille. All of them have some ties to some of the characters we've seen so far beyond maybe Janna since she is kind of a deity. We could still get external characters, but we wouldn't need to for a while. They'd be better off just starting a second show.
@@Domura Who said leave Piltover and Zaun? I just think they will dive more into Noxus based on introducing Mel's mom and already talking about the man hunting her family... Doesn't mean we are abandoning the the first 2 regions.
@@Domura We could even see the kindred, ww has an interaction with them, he says "you were there...let me forget, LET ME FORGET", probably cuz they were in the disaster to bring Mylo and Claggor to the afterlife, this interaction is what made the theory of ww being Jinx's and Vi's father even b4 the series.
@@Domura I love Jinx with all my hearth, I only play Jinx-Janna-Orianna in LoL but as much as I'd love to see a whole season 2 in Piltover/Zaun and my favourite champions as main characters the show need to move. I'm not saying Season 2 totally moving to Noxus/Ionia but definetly at least Noxus needs to be introduced and complete moved to by the end of season 2. Again, I love LoL with all my strenght but Arcane can't be 20 seasons long. Some champions and stories will be cut and left out. Arcane shown us you can do a show that pleases both TV shows viewers and LoL players. To have 2-3 seasons ONLY for a single region would definetly take people away.
What makes Ekko remembering Powder as such a happy an innocent girl on the bridge hits harder as WE, as the audience, know that she wasn't actually like that as a kid/pre-explosion in general, that's just how she was around the only person who ever unconditionally accepted her.
The show is so well written we can see both sides and Don't know who to root for. Everything is so complicated and leave us emotionally exhausted after each episodes.
So around the week this aired they announced Ekko will be a character in their upcoming fighting game. He was showcased fighting Jinx. They did that on purpose.
Ekko was ready to kill jinx but not Powder. And in the moment that jinx understood Ekko saw Powder in her she wanted to end things while she was Powder.
The fight scene on the bridge was sooo brilliant. It was gage from beginning to end and the music overlap with the painted frame-by-frame action for the final was AWESOOOME.
Silco's allies have become so rich now that they basically import clean air to breath while living in the undercity. Meanwhile Silco is still used to the bad air the common folk have to live with. It shows that Silco is really fighting for the people and creating better conditions while the others are just worried about profits and are only interested in maintaning their luxury lifestyle.
Something that many actors haven't seen, they've declared him the total show villain. They fail to see what his purpose is and why he is doing it. I can see that not every decision he makes is good, but it seems to fit the theme of "The Base Violence Necessary for Change". In my opinion, if I were to name a villain for the show, I would blame the council members. They are so obsessed with their comfortable and luxurious lives. They left the undertown to die so that their luxurious life would not be taken away from them. And they chose not to do that until episode 9.
Zuan and piltover are two of the main cities in League but there is also ionia, demacia, the freljord, sharima, they could even explore the void, theres noxus, bilgewater, the shadow isles and prob other places I'm forgetting. I think this show includes 9 of the over 150 characters league has to offer. There is so much more they could do with this world. They could build an entire cinematic universe around it
I gotta be honest though. As someone who played the shit out of League for several years, even after knowing who some of these characters are/will become, I was still shocked as far as the characters' beginnings and how much we find out about where they came from. League lore and backstory really only ever came in bits and pieces, and has formerly been very disjointed and scattered. They actually re-wrote a lot of things a few years ago. I think Arcane is them actually reigning all the lore in and presenting a cohesive universe.
Edit: I misunderstood something in the story, so I talked about something from the game lore that could be a spoiler for future seasons of the show because I thought it had already happened. Removing potential show spoiler! Great reaction! I would say . . . if you haven't played League before, you might be disappointed if you let this great show get you hyped about playing it. It couldn't be more different.
No Ekko doesn't have any of that yet. It's definitely a reference to it and we might see him have it in the future, but this particular scene is just him remembering how it played out when they were kids. And this time he was ready for it. He doesn't actually rewind time or anything here.
@@beelo1889 Then I don't know what I'm talk about! I thought he already had it; if he doesn't, that makes my original post kind of show-spoilery, so I'm gonna edit.
@@bdquinlan Yeah you're good. I thought that it was as well, but I was discussing it with some other people and yeah it's just a reference to it. But I'm sure we will get that stuff in Season 2!
My theory is that shimmer is the product of Rio’s stomach acids mixing with the flowers victor was feeding her in the last episode. I know it sounds like a stretch but it could be possible because they emphasize focusing on the flowers as well as Rio.
I am unreasonably glad to see people reacting to this with sympathy towards Marcus. Every other reaction I've watched, people have just utterly despised Marcus right from his first appearance. And every time I'm like, "Come on. There was a figurative gun to his daughter's head. He did not have a choice." Something I noticed very recently was that line about how there was no record of Vi in the prison's books. Cait asks her about it, but Vi deflects. My theory is that Marcus intentionally kept her out of any official records because if Silco knew she was alive in there, he'd have found some way to have her killed.
The main issue that Marcus had is that he was raised in Piltover, and so was taught that the trench-dwellers were lower than trash. He took this to heart, and treated them as such, moreso even than your average denizen of the upper city. This is why he hated the deal with Vander so much.. in his eyes, Vander wasn't worthy to lick dog crap from the heel of Greyson's boot, so why did she treat him almost as an equal? The air in the trenches stinks so badly that people who aren't used to it have to wear masks to keep from puking. Those who live there are used to it. So, imagine a society where half of the people literally live in toxic stinking fumes in the equivalent of a garbage dump.. always reeking of wretched filth, and coming to the streets of "proper society" only to steal what they can from their "betters"... that is how the well-to-do of Piltover view those that live in the undercity. It wasn't his fault that he was taught to think that way.. it WAS his fault that he accepted it as fact and willfully attempted to oppress the underfolk when he had the chance.
to make things hurt more, jinx's perspective on death is that the afterlife is a better place than the living world. she thinks that the people she killed should be happy that they died because then they would be together in the afterlife. and she was trying to kill herself and ekko at that part so... you could guess what that means :((((
The games are not very story based at all unless you play Ruined King since that is an actual story turned based RPG. They're a lot of written lore and short 5 minute story videos and music videos. The actual games only hint at things through occasional voice lines when champions encounter each other. Ekko in League of Legends says something like "i used to be a crush on you" to Jinx if they encounter each other. In Legends of Runeterra(the online card game) is when the name Powder was first revealed, before that voice line Jinx was only jinx. Ekko also has a voice line like "powder... I... No, never mind forget it" his tone of voice indicates that he wants to reconnect with powder but realized in a defeated tone that there is only Jinx now. An important parallel made in Arcane. When Vi pleads with Ekko that she can reach out to powder he is the one that affirms "powder is gone."
i hope you guys react to some of the league of legends cinematics!! There's a ton but I hope you react to 'a new dawn', "warriors", "the call", "call of power", "awaken", "absolution". those ones are some of my faves because they show a lot of different characters fighting!
The human-animal hybrid people are collectively called vastaya. They come from a not-too-distant island nation called Ionia, where the human inhabitants are basically Asian (Caitlyn's father appears to be at least part Ionian).
Jinx must've invented the "Fireflies bombs" to further frame the Firelights. The visuals are so dope in this show, especially this episode. The hype of Ekko's reintroduction🔥
Maybe, it's kinda implied she made them recently in the beginning of the episode when she sees the real firelight in her room. However it would make more sense if she had already made them.
Right. Plus they did recently piss her off, by taking Vi. So maybe she saw the twisted irony in blowing them up with the "Fireflies bombs", seems in character for me.
@@stewart1555 Yeah, the mechanical butterflies are shown in EP 4 at the celebration and when Jinx returns to her lab she is holding one of them while tinkering with it.
@26:26 Sam you should know what your getting into, the stress depression, anger and fleeting moments of happiness that makes LoL addicting is soul corrupting. i bet if the Dalai Lama played league he would transform into a toxic gamer. if you want that for yourself that's okay, but i have warned you. As a newer player who started playing at the beginning of last year i have felt myself become more toxic each time i play. its a curse
The different races we know of from League are humans, Yordles like Heimerdinger - fuzzy and small, immortal and weird - and Vastaya, which are humanoid/animalistic, like that firelight dude. The counselor dude seems to be another race all together, though, that we haven't seen in the game's universe yet.
I don't know the name of the girl on the right but she has a very good perception. She realized that those Firelights that exploded were made by Jynx, with the pink markings that are characteristic of her, she was good to have caught that little detail so quickly ^-^~ And that moment off Jynx x Ekko on the bridge? For me is the more hyped moment from the series so far!
If you guys want more of Arcane stuff after finishing the show Id suggest watching some LoL cinematics of the characters instead of actually playing the game but if you wanna stay blind to the characters' futures then id suggest against it since the show is considered to be their origins but I think the show was also suppose to be a standalone story anyways so they can work on more stories instead of being restricted to the one establised by the game.
I find your opinions on Heimerdinger interesting. From my perspective all his advice seems like useless platitudes, and they were completely correct to boot him off the council.
Marcus made his choice years ago. He may got caught up in the situation, but he ultimately stayed on as Slico's lackey and did his bidding. I feel sorry for his daughter, not him. She may suffer because of her father's involvement with a crime lord.
That little girl is going to grow up to be a champion focused on killing jinx mark my words. I have no proof of that, there's no champion that currently matches her in league but the whole "cycle of violence/vengeance theme never stops" is pretty prevalent throughout this show. It would make sense.
If you want to play a Riot (Arcane world) game with a story try Ruined King. It is a single players RPG featuring Miss Fortune and others. It's a sweet game
Great reaction beautiful ladies but if you want to see more of the kids before the time jump you have to check out Imagine Dragon's music video Enemy on RUclips.
Please don't sit there and treat the characters of this show like they are one dimensional. Like they are simply black/white. Mel's suggestion isn't manipulation, there's a good reason she's suggesting it. Every character in this show has good reasons why they act and do the things they do, be they trying to be good, doing so or failing, or being a piece of shit, doing so or failing. These characters are very layered so don't sit there and go with the most basic read of a scene when a character makes a suggestion. Also Jinx made those mechanics insects. There's evidence of it in previous episodes.
"This makes me want to play League" Please don't. Just enjoy the media around it. Or the mobile game/alternative games. Anything but the main LoL game!
If you want to play something lire related: don't play league of legend - play legends of runeterra. It has story centred campaigns about Jinx, Vi, Ekko, Jace and Caitlyn.
Big difference between Marcus and Greyson is the Greyson was in a strong bargaining position. Her enforcers had defeated Silco and Vander's rebellion on the bridge, but instead of destroying them she negotiated with Vander to make peace. Vander never bribes Greyson nor do they threaten or blackmail each other. Meanwhile, Silco arranged it so that Marcus can't break their arrangement without destroying his own career. Marcus loses ground in the relationship every time he takes a bribe and covers up a crime. Marcus is trying to live up to Greyson, but he and Silco aren't even close to being equals at any point.
100% Agree.
Although I'd argue it's not even about his career at this point but the risks to his daughters life if he goes against silco. If not for her he would've exposed himself and silco years ago,or tried to kill him.
You have to admit though,
Silco has a very strong hand on his people.
From shimmer and threats to straight up killing you if you are being stupid.
And its not like he is being a bratty dictator. He is cold, calculating and see far more ahead than his followers
@@NRG-REC also def the guilt was eating him alive with how he got greyson killed.
In episode 5 when it was first revealed that Marcus was still working with Silco, he even tried the exact same thing Greyson did in episode 1. He said Jinx crossed the line, he had to have someone to make this thing go away, and that arresting Jinx would be doing Silco a favor. That of course was followed by Silco's cigar-cutting power move and "I don't need favors. I need you to do your job". Marcus is a very interesting character. He keeps falling a bit short no matter what he was up to - from trying to find the kids to trying to leave some last words to his daughter.
@@eatandrun8020 I feel like they could have added more depth to Marcus's charicter with his last words, maybe talking about his dead wife or how she died, or revealing another of his views on the situation embedded into the show. I am hoping for flashbacks to do with this in season two
26:47 do you guys notice that Jinx's eyes are grey here? theyre supposed to be blue. Powder's eyes were grey. Its ironic that Ekko said to Vi that Powder is gone forever, when a simple childhood game he initiated actually brought out the Powder in Jinx. This scene reminds me a lot of the final of Squid Game, two best friends playing a deadly version of their childhood game, ended with a hesitation to kill, and a suicide move.. damn..
The fight scene hits alot harder when you know more of the lore
In the game, Ekko has an interaction with Jinx saying "I use to have a crush on you, until you started talking to the guns"
and in the card game
"I miss you so much"
and
"Powder, I... Nevermind..."
Also realizing the last time vi and ekko actually saw each other was when she was comforting him after him seeing benzo killed and vander taken in episode 3.
We dont knw if they havnt seen each other after what happened. I assumed they did cus Jinx called Ekko "the boy saviour" which probably meant he tried saving her at one point which ofcourse didnt go his way and thts why he has such a strong feeling tht Powder is gone.
@@Buckheimer She said Vi and Ekko, not Jinx and Ekko.
Ekkos's stop watch was seen in Ep 4 when the Firelights attacked the airship with all the barrels of shimmer on it, and used the crystal bombs to subdue Sevika and her crew. He said "we have 5 minutes", referring to how long the crystal stuff would hold, as then he started the stop watch.
The mechanical Firelights were build by Jinx in Ep.4 while she is headbanging to the song "Get Jinxed". She probably stole them during the "Progress Day" event as some could be seen flying.
The eye thing is from his fight with Vander, remember he said the dirt was chewing through his nerves.
And the Gas thing is like pollution, if you live in a highly polluted area your chances of things like Asthma are higher but not everybody’s gonna get such serious health issues.
You mean river toxins
Not dirt
'add him to the zaddy list'
'right behind vander'
LOL i love you guys
He was ready to kill jinx
He was not ready to kill powder.
Ironically you could argue he psyched both himself and Vi out in opposite ways. Vi just spent all that time arguing with him that Powder's still reachable, that they shouldn't be giving up on her.. only to have Powder walk out of the smoke like a horror monster massacring a dozen people before trying to kill Vi without a word and barely even a hesitation. No wonder Vi's in shocked silence at that moment.
Meanwhile Ekko had convinced himself that Powder is just Jinx now. As if Jinx is some entirely separate individual. But Vi's argument, and his own use of a childhood game they played as a gambit in his fight with Powder, broke through that argument he was using to try and convince himself and let him see that.. it's still just Powder. She's buried beneath ~7 years of violent trauma and abuse that she's desperately trying to dissociate herself from, but its all still her.
I still like Victor’s line after his slight hesitation before defusing the bomb “There is always a choice.”
The Jinx-Ekko fight was the best fight in the whole season in my opinion, it was just so beautifully crafted! I'm just wondering why Ekko gave the hexcore to Vi and Cait when it was his idea to go topside with it.
37:55 One of Ekko's powers in the game is time manipulation, in Ep. 4 he uses the stopwatch to time when his trapping crystals will stop being effective. Also, when we first see Ekko in Arcane his first words is "Give me a few seconds."
I answered this somewhere else but I'll give some of it here.
Ekko stayed behind because he was scared of losing vi after just getting her back.
He doubted she could reach through to jinx in the first place but was still willing to let her try in the hopes that maybe she could pull it off, however when he woke up the very first thing he saw was jinx firing on her. Had vi and Cait been even a split second slower in reacting(a very real possibility considering Caitlyns leg was messed up) they both would've died right then. They lived through sheer luck.
Seeing that, convinced him that trying to talk to jinx wouldn't work and obviously vi would never fight her back, so the end result if she stayed would be her being killed by jinx .
Ekko loves vi too. She's the only remaining positive light from his childhood, someone he and powder looked up to immensely.
The risk of losing vi is also what finally forced him to fight jinx with actual intent to kill whereas every other fight he's been holding back aiming for non lethal methods against her.(with one exception of rage after she killed eve)
Even with her killing his friends he never truly wanted to kill powder, but seeing her attack vi, he decided there was no other option than to put her down permanently because she was too far gone.
@@NRG-REC Great insight! Thanks for sharing!
@@sofreshsogreen no prob. Happy to
Back-to-back Arcane reactions?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
A Star Wars reference in an Arcane reaction comment section?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
The doctor was the first character that league created 10 years ago and he has a lot of influence on many characters in the world.
From this episode and discussion we all know now that Sam had a big cartoon crush on Jet from Avatar. It’s okay Sam he fooled everyone with that good looking, cool guy persona back in the day 😂
From my understanding, Viktor was frail since childhood and because of that his body wasn't able to adapt like others and so his condition got worse.
He also spent alot of time as a kid in the caves which probably had a higher amount of those polluted gasses.
Someone said that his conditions seem like Scoliosis and Bronchitis, on top of breathing toxic air
Also, like, a lot of people from the undercity probably die from disease anyway.
I'm so glad to see some reactors empathize with Marcus and not write him off as a bad guy who deserved to die. I've seen so many reactors who thought this way so it's refreshing to see you all look at things from his perspective
That's exactly how I felt. Every single other reactor just hates him immediately and keeps hating him, up to the point of cheering for his death. It's a little off-putting, considering how much effort people put into empathizing with other characters who are objectively worse people.
@@sanctimoniouslocke3941 While I can empathize with *moments* of his character scenes, I can't empathize with his character overall at all.
He legitimately looked at people from the undercity the way plantation owners looked at slaves. He had an extreme ego and wanted to use violence and power to cover his own inadequacies. He had no problems degrading people. Despite feeling bad after the fact, he continued making blood deals with Silco because he saw personal gain.
Eventually he had a daughter and he had new reasons to defend himself and was probably in far too deep, but he was still willing to murder ekko and caitlyn in cold blood.
He is a fairly irredeemable character IMO. I also think Silco is firmly in the villain category, but he has far more redeeming moments than Marcus by a considerable amount.
I agree that completely writing off Marcus' character with no mention of his humanity period is wrong(which many reactors do), but I don't think there's really a lot there to comment on.
@@noobgoestrapping5084 Silco literally tried to murder children, just to make the lie that Vander had abandoned the undercity seem more believable. :v
I feel like people tend to find other characters "more redeemable" because we get to see more of their history/internal struggles/interactions with other characters. If we'd gotten to see more what made Marcus the person he was, people might be more sympathetic.
For example, consider the circumstances under which we first meet Marcus. A building topside just exploded. People were hurt. The enforcers know that the four suspects are children from the Lanes. They go down there to make the arrest -- for the crime of blowing up a building, remember -- only to be stonewalled at every turn. When they talk to Vander -- essentially a mob boss, given the influence he has over the criminal goings-on down there -- he refuses to help, despite obviously knowing exactly who they're after.
That would be... intensely frustrating. A criminal who leads a bunch of criminals, covering up for the criminals who just blew up a building. The workshop was owned by a Council family; there is immense pressure from on high for the Enforcers to locate the criminals *and* the stolen magic gems that, for all they know, could go nuclear at any second and kill dozens more people.
Marcus isn't nice to the people in the Lanes. He probably is *significantly* bigoted against them. But under those circumstances, his behavior is understandable. It wasn't *good*, or *right*, but it was understandable. For all we know, up to that point Marcus was a model Enforcer, and it was just the pressure of those circumstances that caused him to go off the rails.
I just... think he was done a bit dirty by the writers. Unless they intended for him to be a really ambiguous character, I feel like he needed more screen time to flesh out his inner life.
16:30 It isn't just the undercity air affecting him, he has a degenerative disease, making it worse, so not really so much about being from the undercity itself, though that contributed. I love the Firelights as well, they are so cool. This one hits hard, but strap in ladies, it gets intense in the last two!
Jinx is using a suture gun to fix her leg. It's a way to do fast sutures in a triage situation. But it leaves bigger scars.
20:48 "Cait needs to be in charge, of like... she needs to be chief" well... seeing this on 11/15, this phrase aged very badly...
Wtf, a reaction that actually understands the dark place Marcus got himself into and didn't immediately write him off for being hotheaded? Where in the world are all the other reactions with actual empathy like this?
I do like how sad they can make the ekko-jinx fight at the same time as make it cool.
the thought that they played a game like that as kids, except now, as adults, playing it again. this time the stakes are ekko dies from being shot, or jinx gets beaten to death... it hurts in a very unique way.
"i had a crush on you... until you started talking to the gun" - Ekko to Jinx in League of Legends
League has so many stories that they could tell. Season 1 you saw maybe 9 out of 160 characters that league has. They already confirmed season 2 btw. I anticipate they will start introducing other regions than Piltover and Zaun with season 2. Most likely they will dive into Noxus.
Why would they leave Piltover/Zaun? They've already introduced several characters whose arcs aren't yet complete and still have some growth left to their characters, as well as some others that can be tied in. The season 2 teaser already tells us we're getting Warwick and that could be an entire season into itself, his 'resurrection' and experience in those first days. Beyond that, we've still yet to see Twitch, Blitzcrank, Zac, Ziggs, Janna, Ezreal, Renata, Zeri, Seraphine, Urgot, Dr. Mundo, Orianna or Camille. All of them have some ties to some of the characters we've seen so far beyond maybe Janna since she is kind of a deity.
We could still get external characters, but we wouldn't need to for a while. They'd be better off just starting a second show.
@@Domura Who said leave Piltover and Zaun? I just think they will dive more into Noxus based on introducing Mel's mom and already talking about the man hunting her family... Doesn't mean we are abandoning the the first 2 regions.
@@Domura We could even see the kindred, ww has an interaction with them, he says "you were there...let me forget, LET ME FORGET", probably cuz they were in the disaster to bring Mylo and Claggor to the afterlife, this interaction is what made the theory of ww being Jinx's and Vi's father even b4 the series.
@@Domura I love Jinx with all my hearth, I only play Jinx-Janna-Orianna in LoL but as much as I'd love to see a whole season 2 in Piltover/Zaun and my favourite champions as main characters the show need to move. I'm not saying Season 2 totally moving to Noxus/Ionia but definetly at least Noxus needs to be introduced and complete moved to by the end of season 2.
Again, I love LoL with all my strenght but Arcane can't be 20 seasons long. Some champions and stories will be cut and left out. Arcane shown us you can do a show that pleases both TV shows viewers and LoL players. To have 2-3 seasons ONLY for a single region would definetly take people away.
These girls are the only reactors that never forgot about Ekko. Everyone else only thought of him by ep 6. Good Job 👍!!
The high emotion "feel my legs" moments were so funny, such a meme way to convey the hype of the reactions lol
What makes Ekko remembering Powder as such a happy an innocent girl on the bridge hits harder as WE, as the audience, know that she wasn't actually like that as a kid/pre-explosion in general, that's just how she was around the only person who ever unconditionally accepted her.
The show is so well written we can see both sides and Don't know who to root for. Everything is so complicated and leave us emotionally exhausted after each episodes.
So around the week this aired they announced Ekko will be a character in their upcoming fighting game.
He was showcased fighting Jinx.
They did that on purpose.
Ekko was ready to kill jinx but not Powder. And in the moment that jinx understood Ekko saw Powder in her she wanted to end things while she was Powder.
This idea still makes me want to cry
Did you catch that the flowers died from the gas released during Silco's power move in his meeting?
Y’all should watch Imagine Dragon’s Enemy music video, it shows more of Jink and Ekko’s relationship!
9:16 I hope Dani realizes and knows now that the guy before Jinx is Jayce
Love how much you are freaking out about Ekko still not knowing he shows up at the very beginning of this episode.
The fight scene on the bridge was sooo brilliant. It was gage from beginning to end and the music overlap with the painted frame-by-frame action for the final was AWESOOOME.
Silco's allies have become so rich now that they basically import clean air to breath while living in the undercity. Meanwhile Silco is still used to the bad air the common folk have to live with. It shows that Silco is really fighting for the people and creating better conditions while the others are just worried about profits and are only interested in maintaning their luxury lifestyle.
Something that many actors haven't seen, they've declared him the total show villain. They fail to see what his purpose is and why he is doing it. I can see that not every decision he makes is good, but it seems to fit the theme of "The Base Violence Necessary for Change". In my opinion, if I were to name a villain for the show, I would blame the council members. They are so obsessed with their comfortable and luxurious lives. They left the undertown to die so that their luxurious life would not be taken away from them. And they chose not to do that until episode 9.
16:19 he is… but he is just a fkn boss and tryna prove a point that they got soft, but he still remembers why they fight.
what was awesome was seeing Victor disarming Jinx's weapon like it 'aint no thing.."
I think Silco was immune to the gas because he grew up in that environment unlike the chem-barons.
26:26 Don't... save yourself...
Zuan and piltover are two of the main cities in League but there is also ionia, demacia, the freljord, sharima, they could even explore the void, theres noxus, bilgewater, the shadow isles and prob other places I'm forgetting. I think this show includes 9 of the over 150 characters league has to offer. There is so much more they could do with this world. They could build an entire cinematic universe around it
I gotta be honest though. As someone who played the shit out of League for several years, even after knowing who some of these characters are/will become, I was still shocked as far as the characters' beginnings and how much we find out about where they came from. League lore and backstory really only ever came in bits and pieces, and has formerly been very disjointed and scattered. They actually re-wrote a lot of things a few years ago. I think Arcane is them actually reigning all the lore in and presenting a cohesive universe.
Edit: I misunderstood something in the story, so I talked about something from the game lore that could be a spoiler for future seasons of the show because I thought it had already happened. Removing potential show spoiler!
Great reaction! I would say . . . if you haven't played League before, you might be disappointed if you let this great show get you hyped about playing it. It couldn't be more different.
No Ekko doesn't have any of that yet. It's definitely a reference to it and we might see him have it in the future, but this particular scene is just him remembering how it played out when they were kids. And this time he was ready for it. He doesn't actually rewind time or anything here.
@@beelo1889 Then I don't know what I'm talk about! I thought he already had it; if he doesn't, that makes my original post kind of show-spoilery, so I'm gonna edit.
@@bdquinlan Yeah you're good. I thought that it was as well, but I was discussing it with some other people and yeah it's just a reference to it. But I'm sure we will get that stuff in Season 2!
My theory is that shimmer is the product of Rio’s stomach acids mixing with the flowers victor was feeding her in the last episode. I know it sounds like a stretch but it could be possible because they emphasize focusing on the flowers as well as Rio.
I just think he was testing it on Rio.
I am unreasonably glad to see people reacting to this with sympathy towards Marcus. Every other reaction I've watched, people have just utterly despised Marcus right from his first appearance. And every time I'm like, "Come on. There was a figurative gun to his daughter's head. He did not have a choice."
Something I noticed very recently was that line about how there was no record of Vi in the prison's books. Cait asks her about it, but Vi deflects. My theory is that Marcus intentionally kept her out of any official records because if Silco knew she was alive in there, he'd have found some way to have her killed.
The main issue that Marcus had is that he was raised in Piltover, and so was taught that the trench-dwellers were lower than trash. He took this to heart, and treated them as such, moreso even than your average denizen of the upper city. This is why he hated the deal with Vander so much.. in his eyes, Vander wasn't worthy to lick dog crap from the heel of Greyson's boot, so why did she treat him almost as an equal?
The air in the trenches stinks so badly that people who aren't used to it have to wear masks to keep from puking. Those who live there are used to it. So, imagine a society where half of the people literally live in toxic stinking fumes in the equivalent of a garbage dump.. always reeking of wretched filth, and coming to the streets of "proper society" only to steal what they can from their "betters"... that is how the well-to-do of Piltover view those that live in the undercity.
It wasn't his fault that he was taught to think that way.. it WAS his fault that he accepted it as fact and willfully attempted to oppress the underfolk when he had the chance.
to make things hurt more, jinx's perspective on death is that the afterlife is a better place than the living world. she thinks that the people she killed should be happy that they died because then they would be together in the afterlife. and she was trying to kill herself and ekko at that part so... you could guess what that means :((((
The games are not very story based at all unless you play Ruined King since that is an actual story turned based RPG. They're a lot of written lore and short 5 minute story videos and music videos. The actual games only hint at things through occasional voice lines when champions encounter each other. Ekko in League of Legends says something like "i used to be a crush on you" to Jinx if they encounter each other. In Legends of Runeterra(the online card game) is when the name Powder was first revealed, before that voice line Jinx was only jinx. Ekko also has a voice line like "powder... I... No, never mind forget it" his tone of voice indicates that he wants to reconnect with powder but realized in a defeated tone that there is only Jinx now. An important parallel made in Arcane. When Vi pleads with Ekko that she can reach out to powder he is the one that affirms "powder is gone."
Arcane is one of the most successful shows that Netflix has ever produced. A season 2 is already in production.
... probably because Netflix didn't produce it, lol. Riot & Fortiche did. Netflix is merely the platform who decided to showcase it.
i hope you guys react to some of the league of legends cinematics!! There's a ton but I hope you react to 'a new dawn', "warriors", "the call", "call of power", "awaken", "absolution". those ones are some of my faves because they show a lot of different characters fighting!
It's just fireLIGHTS, not fireFLIGHTS. No second F. Also the firelights that exploded were all mechanical and not the actual firelight bugs.
The human-animal hybrid people are collectively called vastaya. They come from a not-too-distant island nation called Ionia, where the human inhabitants are basically Asian (Caitlyn's father appears to be at least part Ionian).
he actually did not know that vi was in stillwater he thougt marcus has killed her
fun fact:
Ekko used to have a crush on Powder and he seems like he didnt really get over it
Sam says Jet from Avatar vibes an I got Peter Pan and the Lost Boys vibes. Ekko was seen with that watch in the beginning of the show.
Jinx must've invented the "Fireflies bombs" to further frame the Firelights. The visuals are so dope in this show, especially this episode. The hype of Ekko's reintroduction🔥
Maybe, it's kinda implied she made them recently in the beginning of the episode when she sees the real firelight in her room. However it would make more sense if she had already made them.
Right. Plus they did recently piss her off, by taking Vi. So maybe she saw the twisted irony in blowing them up with the "Fireflies bombs", seems in character for me.
@@stewart1555 She stole them in ep 4 from the Progress day festival and you can see her working on them while she is listening to Get Jinxed.
@@tompatompsson she stole them and then turned them into little bombs?
@@stewart1555 Yeah, the mechanical butterflies are shown in EP 4 at the celebration and when Jinx returns to her lab she is holding one of them while tinkering with it.
@26:26 Sam you should know what your getting into, the stress depression, anger and fleeting moments of happiness that makes LoL addicting is soul corrupting. i bet if the Dalai Lama played league he would transform into a toxic gamer. if you want that for yourself that's okay, but i have warned you. As a newer player who started playing at the beginning of last year i have felt myself become more toxic each time i play. its a curse
The different races we know of from League are humans, Yordles like Heimerdinger - fuzzy and small, immortal and weird - and Vastaya, which are humanoid/animalistic, like that firelight dude. The counselor dude seems to be another race all together, though, that we haven't seen in the game's universe yet.
Fun fact : Ekko used to have a crush on powder.
"This makes me want to play League of Legends"
You know there's a reason they call the toxic cesspool of the undercity "The Lanes", right?
I don't know the name of the girl on the right but she has a very good perception. She realized that those Firelights that exploded were made by Jynx, with the pink markings that are characteristic of her, she was good to have caught that little detail so quickly ^-^~ And that moment off Jynx x Ekko on the bridge? For me is the more hyped moment from the series so far!
Ekko was my favorite on this show
yesss season two will happen!! but it will take a while, they confirmed that it won't come this year and but it is under production
If you guys want more of Arcane stuff after finishing the show Id suggest watching some LoL cinematics of the characters instead of actually playing the game but if you wanna stay blind to the characters' futures then id suggest against it since the show is considered to be their origins but I think the show was also suppose to be a standalone story anyways so they can work on more stories instead of being restricted to the one establised by the game.
"He IS a zaddy! just behind Vander"
I've found my people...
Thank you for the Double Upload today, what a treat! 🙌🏾 ⚡️. This show is masterfully done. I never get tired watching reactions to it
I find your opinions on Heimerdinger interesting. From my perspective all his advice seems like useless platitudes, and they were completely correct to boot him off the council.
Took 7 episodes for these famous last words: "This makes me want to play league" 😂
The tragegy in Arcane isn't the story of Viktor, Jinx or any of the characters. It's the League of Legends trap slowly closing on y'all 😂
This episode was one of my favorites
There was a group of reactors who didn't realise that was ekko.... PAIN
Marcus made his choice years ago. He may got caught up in the situation, but he ultimately stayed on as Slico's lackey and did his bidding. I feel sorry for his daughter, not him. She may suffer because of her father's involvement with a crime lord.
That little girl is going to grow up to be a champion focused on killing jinx mark my words.
I have no proof of that, there's no champion that currently matches her in league but the whole "cycle of violence/vengeance theme never stops" is pretty prevalent throughout this show.
It would make sense.
its funny how Sam keeps saying look at my legs :))
If you want to play a Riot (Arcane world) game with a story try Ruined King. It is a single players RPG featuring Miss Fortune and others. It's a sweet game
i started playing the mobile LOL game, it's been fun so far.
and ekko is a boy not a girl guys ^^
Every time you call the FIrelights "Fireflies" or "Fireflights"... XD
Season 2 is in production, but it will be a few years until we see it.
Firelights not Fireflghts. No F in the middle. Love the vids
I don't even play league but I know that the game lore is different somewhat
Glad you’re enjoying this !! Crazy good show !!
Great reaction beautiful ladies but if you want to see more of the kids before the time jump you have to check out Imagine Dragon's music video Enemy on RUclips.
''this makes me want to play league''
dont... trust me
Wow double uploads
I love your reactions, this is by far my favorite animated show of all time! Btw, hi Danni 😍
Anyone knows the microphones they are using?
I will leave them a DM and get back to you
blue yeti mics
Please don't sit there and treat the characters of this show like they are one dimensional. Like they are simply black/white. Mel's suggestion isn't manipulation, there's a good reason she's suggesting it. Every character in this show has good reasons why they act and do the things they do, be they trying to be good, doing so or failing, or being a piece of shit, doing so or failing. These characters are very layered so don't sit there and go with the most basic read of a scene when a character makes a suggestion.
Also Jinx made those mechanics insects. There's evidence of it in previous episodes.
Quite sad that Ekko had a crush on Powder :/
Back to Back 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Jinx 💙
You should react to all lol cinematics please
Don't play league... It's nothing like the show.
That is a spicy Red Hot Chili Peppers shirt.
Dani is so cute 🥰
"This makes me want to play League"
Please don't. Just enjoy the media around it. Or the mobile game/alternative games.
Anything but the main LoL game!
FYI, your outtro is way too loud compared to tthe rest of your volume which is loud compared to other youtube content.
I love this channel
React anime Ranking of Kings, pleease
Y’all still calling them the “fireflights” 🙄
No need to play League - deff should play Runeterra - lots more story there with these characters.
If you want to play something lire related: don't play league of legend - play legends of runeterra. It has story centred campaigns about Jinx, Vi, Ekko, Jace and Caitlyn.