Loki - 1x1 Glorious Purpose - Group Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2021
- We are SUPER excited for another dive into a Marvel show on Disney+, this time with the God of Mischief himself in the season premier of LOKI! The Normies review and discuss the episode, as well as what we expect from this time-jumping series after the reaction! What is the Nexus? Will we have another multiverse war culminating in the next Avengers film? Why are Tom Hiddleston and Owen Wilson so perfect together with their chemistry?
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Loki's last words were "You will never be a god." He was speaking to Thanos, but when Loki saw it, he was now speaking to himself.
I never really thought anything of that line, but it has a whole new meaning now and cuts deeper.
Wow. Thats nice catch.
Nice Perspective 👍
so you watched new rockstars breakdown then lol
@@bichlasagne3779 well the fact that he says it to Thanos not long before he becomes the closest thing to a god you could be and casually crushes his neck like a potato chip, it’s the ultimate death of his ego, no blaze of glory, just a sadistic execution to punish his failures. Similar effect in this episode, but the addition of the TVA into the picture just erases it, he realizes what an insignificant speck he would have been back in his own timeline and how powerless he is in the TVA compounds on that, forcing him to realize his own projection, that he’s a weak little man desperately trying to control his world.
I like how this episode actually kinda deconstructs the role of the villain in stories - to be the stepping stone that allows the protagonists to become better versions of themselves. Loki thought he was the protagonist of the story, and found out he was the villain of the week.
He deserves so much better :(
@@lizz5186 That's why he's being recruited; now he CAN be the protagonist of a story.
^Maybe not the one he thought (or wanted), but in the end, that's still true. And I'm all for it!
He is not just a stepping stone to the heroes, but to villain as well. Particularly Thanos. Ouch
Loki is nothing. It's the worst thing a narcissist can learn.
Loki is actually living through the "Finding out you're not the main protagonist" meme
Him seeing his family actually loves him was so sad
But it allows him to become "present day Loki" in a sense which is dope.
Emotional.
The thing is that he was always "seeing" his family time and time again showing him affection and giving him another chance but only in this moment when he got his own skewed self-important scale recalibrated, he is able to really see it and actually believe it.
Especially when he saw his mother's death, because him denying her death to me signifies that he had the most connection to her, above everyone else.
Yeah, seeing years of your own character development in the span of minutes? hours? From a third person view is really crazy for his character
When Infinity stones are nothing for them...It's another level of powers here !
Opening Existential Crisis.exe…
The Stones don’t work if they’re outside of their respective universe
@@DarkTalesProduction ….but the point is lol
@@firstworldproblems6059
The point is that the stones are not working bcause TVA has power over it...It's not working because it's outside of its own universe..
Nothing can beat time
I hope that Disney starts to sell the Infinity Paperweights.
True
But have the packaging label them as "TVA Paperweights" XD
That is the easiest, and cheapest bank Disney will ever make.
Not going to lie, I would totally buy them.
just buy colored rocks or "birth stones"... easy peasy
Rana is one of the only reactors I've seen call out the devil picture being about LOKI'S HORNS, not some ill-placed and random reference to Mephisto.
One of the directors of the show commented about how people were jumping on the Mephisto train after seeing that picture but that the emphasis was on the horns. Then she made some mysterious “Mephisto possibly in the MCU in the future? You never know” comment😂. But I think it’s safe to say Mephisto isn’t in Loki, the Dr. Strange movie makes more sense? www.inverse.com/entertainment/loki-marvel-disney-plus-mephisto-fan-theories-director-answers
SesskaSays did too!
Maybe Dark Loki (the one they are hunting) is masquerading as Mephisto?
It was a wierd relation tbh Mephistopheles would’ve mad sense
Not everyone thinks the same way you do.
I like when Loki finishes watching the playback of his life it says "End of File." and File is an anagram of Life.
That’s a great detail
Wow bro!!!
Great detail or you're just grasping
@@Nadie47 how is it grasping if file is an anagram of life? Grasping should be used when someones theory doesnt make sence or require alot of mental twisting for it to make sense. Like reaching....
Also, file is an anagram of Leif, like Leif Erikson, and both him and Loki are Norse #mindblown
The purpose of the Sacred Timeline is that there is no other multiverse timelines. When they branch off, they are "nipped in the bud" or pruned as they say. Dr. Strange looked at 14 million possible timelines, then made sure they choose the one that would become part of the Sacred Timeline.
That makes a ton of sense! Essentially, he saw that if they won any other way they'd be destroyed by the TVA.
That's kinda convinient
I’ll just point out that the Pruning thing bomb? Its energy as it activates is purple… and we have seen purple magic a few places.
…and the show runner for this show is the writer of Multiverse of Madness.
Sorry but this is pure speculation and was never mentioned. How the hell would dr strange even know how to choose which timeline is the scared one? U are just making shit up now..
@@xaldinfash8252 he would know because all non-Sacred time lines would end up with the TVA destroying the avengers and their non-sacred time lines. the only timeline that wouldn't be destroyed by the TVA is the correct sacred one.
When Loki said "Is this the greatest power?", in my head, that's gonna be his goal.
That's probably what the other variant of him wants to do. That's probably why he's taking the timeline resetters from the minutemen squad.
@@billspell9738 Either that or he is working for kang.
Mobius really told Loki that he wasn’t a main character 🤣🤭
😂😂😂
In his own fucking show! 🤣🤣🤣
6:03 “tom hiddleston brought it with this character. his character got this much like because of tom hiddleston” 💯!!! no one loves, appreciates, and understands loki more than tom hiddleston himself. it shows in his work and the way he speaks about him. i’m so glad he’s an executive producer in this for that reason!
👍
Me seeing the word Nexus in the Miss Minutes cartoon & being reminded of the Nexus commercial from WandaVision: “Oh yeah, it’s all coming together.”
They literally say multiverse of madness as well. LOL
That just reminded me about the leaks that Loki will be in Fortnite lmao.
Makes sense as originally the ads were going to be messages from Strange to Wanda
Producers of that show confirmed that she has the power to travel the multiverse because she is a Nexus being but they just didn't show that really in the show except in that end scene
I love that “End of File” has the same letters as “End of Life”. The little touches that tell you how powerful this bureaucracy is are wonderful.
I like Chris’s analogy of electricians to explain the TVA. I’m gonna use it. I will cite this vid as my source haha.
awesome !
timestamp?
@@ArthurKnight1899 35:07
The cat is not a cat. Notice how there’s a guard or some sort of security in every room? The cat is probably a flerken.
Or it could just be a cat. The room with the robot scanner and the projector room didn't have security either
@@brandonv6905 The robot in charge of processing and strip search with the disintegration gun? That’s security. The armed top ranking investigator who brought Loki in the projection room? That’s security. A pet would be very inappropriate in such a rigid workplace.
@@TD-gc5tq I meant the room with the little guy and the metal detector-like thing. Also we don't know how top ranked mobius is. Even if he is high up he was not armed he never showed any sign of combat ability. That's not security.
@@WhiteHawk77 Wasn't scared, just slightly startled.
Over thinking everything
I feel like the cartoon explained pretty explicitly that there is no multiverse. The whole point of the TVA is to stop there being multiple timelines.
I think the wire analogy is exactly how it's working. It fits the Ancient One's explanation, too.
I mean there is literally a movie coming out next year called Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness
I reckon that there still is a multiverse, it’s just on a higher level than the TVA, like for each different universe there will be a main timeline a TVA dedicated to protecting it, some universes TVA fail and some don’t, the “evil Loki” could potentially be a Loki from a different universe rather than timeline who has successfully taken down other TVA organisations like his own from his respective universe 👐
@@JoeyBilbo _"stepping off your path created a nexus event, which left unchecked could branch off into madness, leading to another multiversal war"_
To me that sounds like the events of this show will set up the Doctor Strange sequel.
I get the feeling that the TVA isn't gonna make it past this season of Loki in its current form, and by the end there'll be a more traditional multiverse to explore
The fact that they are referring to this Loki version as "Laufeyson" hurts more than expected.
Loki only took ownership and pride of the Odinson name right before he died. this one has no growth yet
@@NoArmsSally I'm aware of that and even give points for continuity.
But hurts knowing that this Loki might still be Laufeyson
@@NoArmsSally Maybe he feels differently after hearing his father say he loves him :')
@@danielruiz8259 Laufeyson is still his birth name, even though Odin picked, raised him, and also change his name. Regardless of what happen, it doesn't change the fact that his name is still Loki Laufeyson
Oh yeahh he was called Odinson too.
"Him?"
"Never seen the Powerpuff Girls?"
My man.
And that Him is... kinda the Devil. Even that has theories.😂
@@kalakritistudios ah yes. Mephisto confirmed. He is ALWAYS confirmed
@@johans3164 Mephisto is always confirmed until he is disconfirmed. Then he is REALLY confirmed.
Its sad that his whole purpose is to bring the good out of people like the avengers by being bad and to always lose in the end
Its ok, he brought the good out of himself too
I find this incredibly stupid and campy that they addressed it this way. Shouldn't have just reduced his complex character to a stereotype.
@@Nadie47 In the grand scheme of things, everything is a stereotype that existed.
Definitely a bit campy though lol
@@Nadie47 it’s not campy at all. The problem is people watch these shows thinking it’s just fun entertainment. They don’t realize to truth about our world is being told through all these movies and stories we call fiction. The writers and creators of these stories where high ranking members of societies with old knowledge that goes back to ancient Sumerian days, Babylon, etc.
We live in a world were the indigenous peoples who were once one with their creator and nature itself where invaded by foreign beings and reduced to near nothing, all to simply rise again, slowly but surely and remember who they once where, to make it out of that is to pass the ultimate test. Here’s the kicker, those invaders know their role that’s why they do what they do, for the greater glory of the story. Idk how well studie you are but ask yourself this. What group of people on this planet that resemble nobody else, treated like dirt, and don’t know their history? And then ask yourself who controls everything? The language we speak, the CALENDAR we use ( time).
See once you start looking at the world in it’s true form you will see how 90% of the entertainment we watch is telling the same story over and over again.
An ancient African proverb says our story is written in the stars, it tells our future because they are light years away from us, ahead. To know the stars is to know your origins and your destiny.
This isn’t campy to me at all. It’s clever predictive programming, most viewers aren’t watching it the way some of us are, how ironic that this channel is called the normies, most of society is normies. Just consuming without really understanding the layers these creators go to to tell you something deeper. James Cameron’s movie avatar is a good example of this.
@@Southforthewinter please elaborate as you're definitely not making sense here
when I saw the letters in "LOKI" changing I thought "lol imagine if the loki who screwed up the timeline will have to fight many versions of himself" and in the end I was like "OOOOH"
I think it might be a full on misdirect. I think when he said the variant they were trying to catch was him, they meant literally him in his own personal future, after he gets out of the TVA into the universe and starts traveling time and killing their minutemen. It might even be that as it progresses he'll end up working with or "fighting" his younger variant self, eventually using him to help take over or destroy the TVA.
So far this show is basically if the MCU and The Good Place had a baby
Great call, yeah very much so. I love it
Loki, come on in.
I love The Good Place, hey Marvel cast Ted Danson as Mephisto in future; also @normies I would love if you guys do reactions to Umbrella Academy and The Good Place
@@angelginorio9542 They already started reacting to the Good Place on Patreon. First episode should be out on RUclips soon
and a bit of Umbrella Academy too
They didn't think it would be prudent to tell Loki he was being mind controlled... it was confirmed that the scepter influenced him too.
" Gifted with a Scepter that acted as a mind control device, Loki would be able to influence others. Unbeknownst to him, the Scepter was also influencing him, fueling his hatred over his brother Thor and the inhabitants of Earth."
I also want them to show his time on Sanctuary with Thanos and co.
My interpretation is not that it is predetermined exactly, as that suggests someone else has made the decisions, but that the TVA exists outside of what we consider time. There is no "present" there. The past is as the future and the future the past. It's not that someone has predetermined those events or made the decisions for you, but rather they know what has/will happen as they exist outside of time and can observe all.
Right, if it was predetermined, then how would variants and alternate timelines exist in the first place? They're just far above looking at where you are in the water, to see if you're following the river or branching down a dead end path.
They also seem to want to punish the particular person who made that path, even on top of already exterminating the rest of existence in that reality, so that's a bit worrying.
@@Xanderj89 That reality never should have existed in the first place, and honestly even though its a very Thanos-like move and pretty much dickish in some aspects, the TVA was created to prevent a multiversal temporal collision war, something that created the reason for the TVA to exist and maintain the natural flow of time without folk tampering with it. Its still not an easy thing to agree with, but definitely has more practicality backing it compared to Thanos' completely un-thought out idea to wipe half the universe for resource distribution.
The TVA exists above normal existence and so don't perceive or look at things the same way individual species in the timeline do. So they don't care much for regret and remorse when the outcome is for the better when considering all of temporal existence.
From what I understand the timelines come about as a result of free will, but it's up to the TVA to decide which timeline is the sacred timeline. If it was predetermined there would not be diverging timelines. But also, it could be said that it was predetermined for the TVA to come about too if you really wanna go beyond. But trying to understand that with our limited capacity would be pointless.
@@sidharthbodhi9569 They shouldn't have existed in the first place is an argument I've heard for genocide before, yeah.
From their perspective of having a 'one true timeline' the others "shouldn't" have existed, sure. But they already admitted that was made up too, by their bosses, they just decided to smush them all and keep one main one. So what was 'supposed' to happen was branching wildly, until them. They claim snip it to (ostensibly) prevent a multiversal war.
I think it has yet to be seen if that is truth, or if the timeline they are maintaining is even meant to be the 'true' line, if such a thing even exists. It's just what the people at the TVA think, something immediately brought up by Loki to the Judge, and considering they are all seemingly constructs or created just to follow orders their entire lives and believe what they are told, I can't say I take them at their word.
@@Xanderj89 What you're saying is entirely true, and the Time-keepers do pick and choose whats ok and whats not within the prospect of free will. Hence why I'm waiting for a better explanation in the later episodes, because the TVA in the comics is a bit different, and theirs isnt the only time dominion either.
I like how they show us indirectly that infinity stones are nothing in front of what's going to come in future. It's Kang baby.... And I bet he's one of the time keepers. ( Like his one variant is time keeper and he make this timeline sacred as he is the ruler of it. ) I bet post credit scene of last episode will introduce us to Kang. Like they showed us thanos way back.
Infinity stones are still incredibly powerful, they just don’t have any power when they are outside of their respective universe
I think Blindwave suggested this, but what if it's a loop and the war that is coming in Doctor Strange is the multiverse war and then 3 time keepers reset it all, and those 3 are Loki, Doctor Strange and Wanda 😆 fun theory
@@Blockshot16 true, when the time keepers are on a specific universe the stones of the universe can erradicate the TVA because they are subject to that universe rules.
12:24 In the comics, that's Kang's girlfriend, Ravonna Lexus Renslayer.
Wow, I forget her name! It's mean they don't kill all the variants, some of them they hire for the organization. He will also appear in the upcoming Ant-man and the Wasp 2 movie.
Who is Kang?
@@blackmantis3130 Kang The Conqueror.
my prediction is that the version of loki killing people is the female loki. It would be a great way to introduce her.
It will be, esp since lady loki bts photo's were taken from set awhile back not sure if they were leaks plus there's a mystery actress playing a mystery role.
@@jimmybatalitzky oh really? didn't know that.
Yep I said that too as soon as they showed the variant, it looks like a woman to me.
She legit was at the premier episode fist bumping Tom Hiddleston at the London Premiere last week and she is even in a quick clip in the trailer sitting down and talking with him. It's not even much of a spoiler like some people in the comments are complaining about
Probably, it’s funny how you can also see foreshadowing of her appearance in Loki’s prison file. It says “sex: fluid” so yeah, we are surely getting female Loki and I’m here for it
All the other timelines we see are being created on the spot from the Avenger's meddling. Just like how the TVA has come to destroy the timeline immediately after 2012 Loki takes the Tesseract, the TVA probably came to the younger Thanos' timeline with a reset bomb after he left to fight the Avengers in the Sacred Timeline. They know it is all part of the plan to have a Variant Thanos in Endgame, and will prune the timeline he comes from so that it doesn't create any more branches. There isn't a timeline with a rogue 2012 Loki and there isn't a timeline with a Thanos leaving for the future, because the TVA destroyed them.
I’m either too stupid or too high to understand this but good analysis!
@@kaydollar2490 Hahah
Waldron, the showrunnner, was a writer for Rick & Morty. He's also a writer on DS2.
DS2?
@@watertommyz Doctor Strange 2... Into the Multiverse of Madness.
Jeff Loveness is also writing Ant-Man 3 and Jessica Gao of "Pickle Rick" fame is writing She-Hulk. Somebody at Marvel Studios must really like Rick and Morty.
@@albericponcedeleon2696 they do love that show... with the new phase, cosmic and time travel, Rick and Morty is like the perfect material to draw from 🤣🤣🤣
They mentioned it in the video😔😔
So we can all agree that Stan Lee worked for the TVA ...
Yep, he was keeping an eye on everyone to make sure the sacred timeline wouldn't mess up!
Not he and the creators where One Above All a being that can do everything he wants in the Marvel Universe. Even the TVA only exist because he allows them to exist.
@@paulgotik LMAO sure buddy
In Guardians of the Galaxy 2 he was talking to the Watchers
Fun fact: Infinity Stones only work in the universe they are created in.
Outside of it, they are as usefull as any other rock on the ground.
I mean, not even magic works in the TVA, so that realm just has special rules.
Unlike the comics tho, in the MCU stones from different timelines work in... well, other timelines.
in the comics though, the stones only work in the timeline they're originally from
The goal for "Evil Loki" has to be to get enough chrges to "reset" the sacred timeline - Loki is nothing if not an agent of chaos, and spawning a new multiverse with no order is the most chaotic thing you can do
So basically Thanos' second solution.
@@metalore I mean technically he'd be creating more people since he'd be spawning different timelines. Also I think it's more motivated by his fight against predeterminism. He fully believes that he is the maker of his own destiny, so the idea that people know and dictate what his life should be, goes against everything he believes in. He believes he is a god and can do whatever he wants, so he is probably trying to rid the world of the TVA so he can actually live like that.
Evil Loki is def trying to uncover something with the TVA. I think the TVA will be the big bad actually by the end of the season, and that "she" is not going to be so evil
@@brianmurray6261 I mean, Loki (At least the actual norse mythology version) is not an evil person, they're a trickster, a neutral character that causes mischief and mayhem, but it usually ends up being for the better. Removing the TVA from existence could be seen as a neutral/good act since it essentially gives people free will. I wouldn't consider the other Loki evil at this point, we don't know enough, but I do consider them the Villain
@@brianmurray6261 In the comics the TVA are not technically evil or good, they only care about their own interests wihch sometimes is in favor of the heroes, other times it's not.
Glorious episode.
There's one time line. Then can be other time lines, but they get trimmed by the TVA.
The Avengers didn't get in trouble cos they put the infinity stones and Mjolnir back at the exact time they were taken, allowing the variant timeline to snap back in place on the main timeline.
Captain didn't create a time variance by returning to Peggy, cos he was always meant to live a life with Peggy while the other him was frozen, it was predestined.
The ancient said that a full set of infinity stones is essential to protect a timeline from outside forces. So it will be interesting to see what the TVA think about the current main timeline that is absent infinity stones.
Seems like bullshut excuses...the tva should have interrupted the avengers as soon as they started messing up with time. Why wait for them to put the infinity stones back? Seems like they are chosen which people to interfere with and which ones to ignore..makes no sense...you can just say " oh..it was supposed to happen" and think that's a satisfying answer..wtf
My take is that they don't arrest people who don't cross the critical red line, as long as the Avengers go back to the sacred timeline before creating multiverse, they'll be pardoned, whereas Loki does not have the knowledge to go back so he need to be arrested.
My question is why the evil Loki can jump around without being detected, It's better be a good plot point I hope.
But the timeline we know isn't abscent of infinity stones since they can't be destroyed,it's a known detail that Thanos reduced them to an atomic level,so they still exist but not as stone sized objects.
Every time a nexus event happens a varaints timeline is created, this timeline branches off from sacred timeline and hunters reset the timeline. loki stealing tessaract was a Nexus event, before that noting happened so TVA didn't interfere.
There are a lot of other Nexus event . But Avengers event is not one of them
so the TVA didn't interfere with cap living out his life in an alternate timeline because he was going to return to the sacred timeline anyways huh. But Loki stealing the tesseract would have created a massive divergence and disrupted the flow of events so this time they did.
@@QuantumFishFTW Because Cap decided to just live the rest of his life out and retire which didn't change any historic events
While Loki leaving with the Tesseract changes his whole history in the MCU
@@QuantumFishFTW what cap did in his past is ignored because he is the one who gives sam shield which is supposed to happen in the sacred timeline. He becomes new captain america of the future via "old" steve Rogers. Hence they didn't interfere because he still had a part in the sacred timeline, but we don't what happened to him after he gave shield to sam, maybe then TVA apprehended him.
Loki talking about Coulson: “Little solace for a dead man.”
*A criminally underrated Marvel TV show that Kevin Feige should acknowledge in his universe because it’s actually really good has entered the chat*
Feige don't consider it cannon because he had no control over it. I get that even though aos is one of my favourite shows.
It’s not his job to, that’s a YOU problem.
@@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective He can still declare it non-canon but doesn’t.
Disney did that with a lot of stuff from Star Wars, so why can’t Feige do that?
As well, he’s going to be introducing concepts that were established first in those shows in future projects like Inhumans (since Kamala Khan is one & gets her powers from her Inhuman DNA), so he has to address this stuff.
@@kagani6202 When he introduces concepts from those shows into future projects, it will be his problem. The major example is Inhumans. Kamala Khan is going to be in the MCU & her powers come from her Inhuman DNA, so Feige has to address it.
@@Phanthief95 lol no he doesn’t, the Inhumans concept does not come from AoS at all. The show is meaningless
How Loki talks about himself this whole episode, the self hatred and why he’s hurt people, he’s always get this way. And it’s clear in his movies that he’s always been like this. He’s never liked hurting people. It’s interesting that people have this conception of Loki loving to hurt people when I could argue Thor loves hurting people, but since Loki is the “villain” when he does the same things as Thor he’s bad.
i mean just because time itself is predetermined, doesn’t mean that those people still don’t have choice. especially if they don’t know about it being predetermined.
That’s literally what that means.
@@zachm1839 let me put this in a question: if i believed in GOD and that everything that happened to me was a part of his plan, meaning it was predetermined, does that mean i have no choice in what i do?
The differences between soft and hard determinism is basically semantic and based on your level of optimism. Just my opinion, but if you believe you have choice even when everything comes down to determinism, you're also probably a glass half full kind of person. And that's cool. We need more glass half full kind of people to cheer us glass half drank folk up.
@@lilgimpboy It's not a matter of believing. If a God exists and it predetermines everything, then a person's choice is God's choice for that person regardless of whether that person believes in God.
If they literally do anything other than what's planned for the timeline, they're getting melted by the TVA lmao
I would see it like a tree: theres the tree as a whole (the sacred timeline). And theres branches that come off of the tree. The variants are branches that reach into the neighbors garden and the time keepers are the gardeners making sure everything stays in their own garden.
Awesome way of putting it @littleroot!
You're a real metaphor guy huh? Makes you sound real smort.
@@QuantumFishFTW i am smart
btw I 💖 the way Loki says "Mock me if you Dare."
Rana just being like "gaaaah i fucking love the Avengerssss" is relatable af
Bro.. it felt so surreal to see the infinity stones just chilling in that desk. It was such an overwhelming feeling of "wow... wtf?"
I don't care how old I or Tara Strong gets, I'll always be simping.
Did no one else catch the Knightmare reference?
This place is a nightmare.
"That's a whole nother department."
One of the best Marvel offerings so far. Watching Tom do what he does best, and see his talent get so much recognition and much deserved praise makes me so happy. Owen Wilson and Hiddleston have great chemistry. Everything is SO GOOD. The music has deserved a special shoutout too, it's absolutely gorgeous.
How is it so difficult to separate "good and bad" from "the flow of time" and what is meant to happen in the timeline? Like, yeah what Thanos did was fucked up but it was supposed to happen whereas Loki picking up the Tesseract, something we KNOW he didn't do originally in the first Avengers movie, was a branch as a result of other people time traveling. Also, Tara Strong was Raven in Teen Titans, Timmy Turner, Bubbles in Powerpuff Girls, Ben in Ben 10, Meg on Family Guy, etc.
Agreed. I find it dumb that TVA is punishing him for crime of messing with time. Umm what?
Because the only reason why Loki became a variant was because the Avengers cocked up.
I mean, if I were a prisoner and a guaranteed opportunity to escape was literally dropped in front of me, I would take it as well.
Loki didn’t want to mess with time and had no intentions of doing so. So logically, the people intending on tampering with time should face the consequences rather than the ones impacted by them.
Also, by this logic....TVA and Captain America going back to live a life with Peggy? Umm? No issues with that apparently.
TVA’s reasoning is kinda shaky on this one. “Meant to happen?” Yeah.....totally can understand why Loki is enraged.
Maybe the time variant villain Loki is one that has had enough with the TVA’s tampering and is declaring war on them.
@@Justin-ui5ti In the video explaining the tva you see two dotted red lines above and below the sacred timeline. That represents an acceptable level of freedom/uncertainty in the timeline. When an event passes this limit it becomes a nexus event and is corrected by the tva.
This isn't morality, this choreography. If I choreographed a dance with a large group of people where everyone had to perform the moves assigned to them in order for the performance to work, someone going left when they were supposed to go right is a bigger problem than someone going the direction they were meant to go a little late or a little fast.
Steve is a mortal man out of time going back to the point he disappeared from in order to live out those missing years. There was more than enough room there for him to fit in with that time line since he returned to the point he left. By contrast Loki is an asgardian God with an infinity stone that has been remove from his time line through an act of time travel. His ability to affect the timeline is much higher because of who he is and what he is capable of.
@@infernityable1369 The tva goal is not based on morality to keep things in order. It's based on their own personal beliefes of how the universe should work. They don't care about human morality at all.
@@paulgotik I think you meant to reply to Justin Stanly? 🤔
Meg? I thought Meg was voiced by Mila Kunis.
We never know but Tom Hiddleston might even meet Loki in this series. That would be sick.
Infinity stones only modify their respective realities. Magic only alters your respective reality. Outside your reality, the infinity stones and magic don't really do anything. It's like having a flashlight, but no battery.
More like having a flashlight out in the sun
That's true for the stones, magic I am not so sure about because there are instances in the trailer where you see Loki using his green magic so I think it's more that the TVA is outside of time and that's why no magic works or they legit just have a magical dampener in the entire area since they have acess to any and all technology ever
@@brianmurray6261 No he is correct magic from one reality doesnt work in another unless its from a higher being or your a nexus being like wanda.
that's only true for the stones or some types of magic. There's magic outside the individual universes.
@@jeremiahward7181 Dr. strange is from one reallity and uses magic outside of his own reallity. And there's a tone of characters that do the same in the comics, even Thanos has destroyed multiple reallities before.
Eternals cannot get involved because the time keepers told them so. I called it!
The celestials not TVA
Time Keepers have nothing to do with the Eternals
@@N3xtStopHell The Timekeepers aren’t ‘Celestials?’
But the Eternals where created byt the Celestials and the Celestials are at the same level of power (if not more) than TVA
Both mom and I thought of LOST with the desert scene too! It's the exit! haha
Lady Loki is rumored to be the villain due to casting 😁 so stoked!! Already the best MCU show so far
Lady Loki is confirmed for Ep2...at least. That's her at the end of the episode.
What’s with trying to judge all these shows immediately? No it’s not the best so far. Let it finish 1st. Shit halfway through.
@@avonbarksdale91 Calm down
I noticed when we see his profile page in the show it says Gender: Fluid. That and the fact that we didn't see the face at the end. I figure if it's Hiddelston Loki, why not show it? So, yeah, probably Lady Loki. Reminds me of how Doctor Who introduced Missy before making the Doctor female. There were a number of things that reminded me of Doctor Who in this episode, actually.
@@avonbarksdale91 you think you speak for others but you do not. Clearly people stating this is the best marvel show is an opinion
Miss Minutes is LITERALLY the female version of Jurrasic Park's Mr DNA.
The wires analogy is really good
I was expecting the villain to be another Loki variant, but i like where this can lead, Loki have seen what he become in the future and now has a foil to represent the worst part of themself, this can lead to really interesting places
Loki variant is this Loki but in the future
Calling it now, he's doing it to try to save his mother.
i thought that too! and maybe kill thanos?
The loki they’re hunting is lady Loki. That’s my theory. Ever since the news came out that he’ll be gender fluid, I feel like that’s what they really meant.
The way i see the predetermined stuff is that they know what should happen and the stuff with Loki shouldn’t happen, so they won’t know what’s gonna happen with him because it wasn’t supposed to happen.
They where gonna reset this Loki variant
Ahem, SHE is trying to collect as many resetters as possible to reset the entire Sacred Timeline.
Have they actually confirmed female loki is the main villain? I actually hope that is not what happens, id rather see him meet female loki and team up with her and the villain is somebody like ikol who becomes a god butcher in the comics. If the villains goal is to reset the sacred timeline and destroy the time keepers i think ikol being the villain makes more sense and female loki is a protagonist along with main loki.
Is it Comfired that she is Lady Loki? No right so stfu
@@kashaanalisiddqui3780 you mad bro? Haha you don’t have to be rude. That’s not how you make friends. Also leave your moms basement from time to time and you’ll make more friends. I don’t know though based on that one sentence. your personality is shit.
@@ZandrickKrowe I am not mad you are mate, you may say this is my way to speak to idiots like you
And Don't talk shit like a fucking Karen "AHEM ITS A SHE" or "GET OUT OF MOM'S BASEMENT" (seriously Mom's Basement? I haven't heard that insult since 2010)
it hasn't been confirmed by Marvel yet so you can shut the fuck up and stop spreading Misinformation
And I am not here to make friends to some idiotic fuck on the internet
I have a plenty of good mates
@@kashaanalisiddqui3780 now u stfup and stop being rude cause he was right , it's a female loki , if you saw episode 2
lmaooo “he”
they have no idea who is coming
@@superrazor7617 I so hope we're right about this!
Can I just say, I love Nahid’s enthusiasm while watching these Marvel shows. It just brings me joy. Please don’t ever change. The first person my eyes dart to when a key scene comes up. I have been watching you guys for YEARS. It’s almost a ritual with me, started with season 4 of GOT, watch the show’s episode then come on RUclips a day later and hit all my favorite reactors for further insight or things I missed & didn’t think about. You guys are in my top 3.
This first episode was really not only setting up the season but also giving 2012 loki all the character development it took multiple movies to achieve specifically with him watching the tape
Haha Rana and Suraj just ended their watching of Dark on YT, now they get a Marvel show with a lot of the same themes.
8:26 I swear, even if I am 90% wrong, I can’t help but think Ms. Minutes is voiced by Tara Strong, because all I hear is Twilight as if she has Applejack’s southern accent.
Edit: I JUST LOOKED IT UP AND I WAS RIGHT!!!
It says it in the credits
I saw an article saying that people are pissed about the stones in the drawer like it invalidates everything else. But look at them. The ones in the drawer look dull and not like the other stones weve seen. Maybe they dont work if they are not in their own universe/timeline
Pretty sure no magic works in the TVA, so the stones are null and void
How invalidates? The TVA is outside the timeline.
But inside the timeline, still are dangerous.
The stones are just leftovers from variants that left the timeline.
The infinity stones have no power in their universe
Right. You notice that when Loki and the Hunter enter the TVA through a portal, she's holding the Tesseract and it dims when they get inside. It's power is severely muted if not nullified entirely.
Oh look, gotta take 3 minutes to explain to Pat what non difficult version to understand Loki this is
If you like Owen Wilson’s and Tom Hiddlestons chemistry check out the movie they did together called midnight in paris
NGL.. when he said the variant we are hunting is you... That moment shit just get real
Props to Chris for bringing out the Volca Keys for this one. Glad you spotted that synth cameo too.
I see a synth and I get hype about it lol
Haha I definitely felt your hype. I think a Fairlight CMI would fit even more nicely on a TVA desk than a Volca.
The lo-fi look is solidly on the Dr. Who/Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy side of Sci-Fi, and I'm all for it. Also the time cop city looks straight out of a Jean-Claude Mézières work, whoever designed this is a massive sci fi nerd
President Loki and Lady Loki are already confirmed to show up in the show
''How much he's grown in 40 minutes'' FACTS.
This is the first time we get to see Loki being sincere to someone, not even with Thor he never could open up about how he felt and what led him to take the choices he made and why. Loki was really hurt when he found out Odin wasn't his father and that was his only answer of why Thor was always the ''chosen one'' and the favorite to become the ''king'' of Asgard, Loki never had a chance (like he was told as a kid) his whole life was a lie. Unfortunately, Odin told him he loved him too late, Loki in Ragnarok finally has a moment of realization of he could be so much more than just the ''god of mischief'' like Thor always told him, he found a lot of personal growth at the end just to be killed by Thanos right after that... And it sucks. When Mobius told him the curse of his life was meant to repeat over and over again, it doesn't matter how much he could've changed, he's predestined to be the bad guy so others can rise as heroes and become the best version of themselves, while Loki's destiny is to lose everything included his own life, that's why this Lady Loki hates the TVA and wants to take control of their lives (every Loki in the multiverse), change their destiny and get the glorious purpose they have been taken away from.
12:24 And there he unwittingly asks one of the deep philosophical questions of all time ("Who's story is it?")
This episode is DEEP in these mind-warping questions. It hits you right from the start. If you were told to go through a scanner that would detect if you were a robot -- painfully vaporizing you if you WERE a robot, wouldn't you ask yourself, even for a minute, if you WERE a robot? And if you WERE a robot, why didn't you know and what did all of those memories mean? Some quantum physicists speculate that "reality" may simply be a computer simulation. If it is, who designed it and to what purpose?
The writers are treading into deep waters here, and I'm glad that one of the Normies picked up on it.
It's most likely female loki which we know is in the series from the cast list also this will make since because loki is genderfluid like in the comics
I know who ur talking about but the actress isn't confirmed to be lady loki, it's just speculation since she's in the casting list
I don’t think so. They said “him” when talking about the variant multiple times throughout the show, when referring to the one they’re hunting.
@@BeanstaIkk so why didn’t they show him at the end as the hooded figure?
@@BeanstaIkk it's possible they don't think he's actually a she
I can see them playing the variant Loki in an ambiguous light. They'll lead us into the idea that Old Loki is the variant they're looking for then hit us in the face with a Lady Loki reveal.
6:48 _"Predeterminism I guess."_ *~Suraj*
Until they directly say otherwise here, I have my own personal headcanon for _fate:_ It isn't that we can't make choices, or that our destiny isn't our own. But rather, we see time with a limited perspective. We see it in a linear fashion.¹ And yet everything is happening at the same time. So, in essence everything that will happen, has already happened. Said headcanon also allows for fortune tellers/psychics.²
Watching a second time (even via reaction clips), what *Mobius* says, and especially the questions asked, take on deeper meaning now that we know _who_ they're hunting. Even *Mobius* seems a bit less empathetic now. 🤔🤯
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¹ ─ I guess we can go off in another direction and say time doesn't exist. We're really just measuring _motion._
² ─ i.e., in stories.
I like that "Power of Now" pause reference my man!
The MCU has lost all of it's stakes and nuance because of how they address the timeline in this episode
@@Nadie47 I didn't perceive that right off. And I'm hesitant to ask, but. . . _Would you be willing to explain a bit more?_
If not, I understand.¹ And like I said, I'm hesitant to know. After all, when it comes to any IP-cum-franchise, stakes are very difficult to come by as it is. 😬
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¹ ─ For one thing, one can tend to forget there are people on the other end of these screens. People with _who-knows-what_ going on which could require their attention.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks @@PeaceOfMind8190! 😄
Though I haven't read the book, I have tried to watch some talks by Tolle. Sadly, I found what he said too difficult to follow due to his accent (my problem, not his). But now you've got me reconsidering giving his book a look-see. 🤔
@@Nadie47 your comment aged like one day old made to expire milk, did you even see the last episode with Kang the Conqueror?
If Loki never tried to take the Tessaract, Kang would never have made it back in the timeloop.
love the volka keys set decor.
It's like retro futuristic, how the Jetsons imagined the future would look like.
I really wanted to see their reaction to when Mogius showed loki killing Coulson
This setup the biggest crossover to end all crossovers secret wars
Finally I love your reactions lol took awhile ! :)And she's funnyyyy! Lol
OMG I never clicked so fast, I forgot you guys would do a reaction to this. This is going to be epic and the whole gang is here
Captain Marvel: I’m so powerful I can take on Thanos.
TVA: Hold my infinity Stones
Notice how it’s no soul stone meaning that Thanos never varies from his path
There actually was ONE soul stone being used as a paper weight in the credits
I love Loki’s emotions in this soooooo much
That part when Loki saw his future… It really hit hard. Loki was actually crying. He finally realized his true colors. Now he has the new redemption arc. Loki is back baby!!!!
loki looks just like joaquin phoenix's Joker in this
Indeed.
I wouldn’t be able to stand watching this with all the talking. I feel kinda bad for that girl who just wanted to enjoy the story and not makes jokes.
It drives me crazy. I pretty much just hate watch all their reactions now, to see how annoying they can be.
I think their used to it.
Imagine being mad bc the reactors are reacting to the show
@@Ayobin0 It's not being mad that they're "reacting". It's being annoyed that, because of how they're doing it, they end up missing / misunderstanding so much. Add to it, that it's usually pointless gibberish that gets in the way and it becomes more sad than annoying.
@@stevenightfall6634 Do y’all not have friends that you watch TV shows with? Lmao why are you even watching them in the first place if you hate them so much? Leave! Ain’t nobody asking you to watch something that you don’t like that sounds counterproductive to me 🤷🏾♂️
Love this reaction y'all are so into it
you all went up straight Loki!
The writers have embodied themselves as time lords. Definitely mo-meta than the usual.
The other Loki they’re hunting is lady Loki
Pretty sure it's not confirmed yet
LOVE the Dark references from Rana and Suraj hahaha
This is the one I been waiting for
The villain I think is lady Loki. I think this because Tom Hiddleston was making it a large thing about Loki being genderfluid and staying true to the Loki comics and Tom being a executive producer of the show. I hope it is though.
If they want to talk about creating other timelines, wait till they meet Wanda. And that girl that agent Mobius was talking to. That looks like the same girl that Baron zemo was also talking to in the falcon and the Winter soldier.
I like the feeling of finality this gave Loki's death in Infinity War. Having all this talk about how everything that happens plays out because that's how it's supposed to be and by having them have access to someone's entire life; it makes seeing that tape run out carry a different weight to that, confirming in it's own way that that is his real death. Establishing the TVA to us the way it did, if that was just another fake death, the tape would've kept going because of the fact that the TVA knows everything about a person's life
The ending is sick! now thats Norse Mythology Loki!
All of these Marvel Disney+ series are just therapy sessions for the characters lol
First Wanda
Then Bucky (with a hint of Sam getting his shit together)
And now Loki.
Instead of Jet li's The One, it's Loki's The One.
Basically similar idea but he doesn't get stronger after capturing the other variants of himself. Also with that evil Loki, I think in the end "she" won't be the big bad and it will in fact be the time keepers or someone running the TVA
@@brianmurray6261 How do you know this variant of Loki is a woman?
@@dwnkaomwn3953 because she has been in the trailer for s brief second and she also was at the Premier in London for this episode with Tom front and center the entire time. It's not a huge reveal, she has been in other marketing materials and will be a fun like ohhh, when they show her off. But I'm excited for the interaction with her and our main 616 Loki variant, because his whole thing is that he only trusts himself, well she basically be like him also, so will be fun to see how they play that
@@dwnkaomwn3953 just watch this week's episode and you'll see if I was right or not lol
The promo for season 2 came out the other day, so I decided to rewatch the first season with you guys since it’s been so long. So much has changed! There used to be so much good will towards the MCU. Now there’s so little enthusiasm. So thank you for taking me back in time! Hopefully, the TVA doesn’t come after me.
8:34 Some might say it's Tara-fying ((bad joke but you get it, that's Tara Strong doing the voice)
My only question is what happened to the timeline which this loki came from, and one from which thanos came. Those timelines are now without some prominent characters or maybe TVA deleted those. What actually happened??
The one Loki came from is "reset"/erased to converge back to Avengers 1 events properly without Endgame Avengers coming in.
@@PeaceOfMind8190 which is why this Loki says "I can never go back to my timeline, can I?"
You guys are among the few people to understand that, I saw so many people being confused about it!!
Looking forward to all the reaction vids from you cats! Great opening for a T.V. series!
It feels like a mini movie and feel gutted when the episode is over.
The Timelines better get explained easily and well.