The #1 Enemy Of The Golf Swing | How Your Hips Work In The Setup And Backswing
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You are, by far, the best instructor on this platform that knows to ask all the right questions as if you never heard these concepts before. It really makes it feel like it’s our own personal lesson. Great “interviewing” skills I guess you’d say! 👌👌
Appreciate that, Aaron! Thanks for the support man!
Eric, thanks so much for this. Completely solved my early extension issues. No more top spin duck hooks. Incredible stuff man. Thanks.
👊Happy to hear this one helped your game, Josh!
Ironically I just figured this out the other day, in regards to the posterior pelvic tilt. I hadn’t seen this video yet and was playing around with posturing to help my low back pain. I change that set up by scooping my pelvis under and holy… I had my best range session in memory and some of the best ball striking on a course in a really long time.
It not only eased the pressure on my low back and nerves but kept my posture through impact.
The way you explained the opposite was a light bulb moment for me.
I appreciate all your videos and how you explain how small things impact bigger items in the swing.
Love to hear this, Michael! Appreciate you watching the channel!
This was extremely well done! I push my hips too far back on address and was looking for ways to fix that. This video was exactly what I needed!
Glad this one helped, Mark!
Great collaboration. Much Appreciated ! Love that Eric always gives credit where credit is due by citing George Gankas.
Appreciate it!
For me setting the belt buckle just slightly left of center for a right handed golfer is a vital setup key. It was covered but i think it could be emphasized a bit more. For me it insures I get just enough weight forward and allows me to keep it there during the swing, eliminating or reducing any swaying. Great content thanks.
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Thanks for watching!
This just broke down everything that's been going wrong with my swing for the last little while. Pair this with making the shoulders and grip too tight and you've got a shank machine and thin central. I'll be working on keeping my hips under me and letting my arms and shoulders completely relax. Great video!
Thanks, Corbin! Hope it helps ya!
I have problem with consistency and i think this video is the answer!
Hope it helps!!
One of your best videos Eric. Cause then effect...you teach the right way. Great thumbnail BTW. Appreciate you.
Appreciate it man...thanks for being here with us!
Absolutely incredible info! I would have lost a ton of money had I bet on the “Good” set up position vs the “Bad”. Had they not been labeled, I’d have picked the hips back position as being the way to go!
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Great lesson and driving home what I’ve been working on. Best part though is it’s the most comfortable change I’ve ever made as the body just feels more free to move the way it’s intended in a golf swing. So much so that I spent a good 6 hours combined at the range over the weekend and it was my main focus. To anyone watching, if your name isn’t Keegan Bradley, this will help you :). Thanks Eric!
Lol love it!
I really enjoy this discussion format, it presents the material from multiple angles and gets a bit deeper into the subject. I have the “athletic” stance syndrome, which I got from the former baseball players who teach golf using baseball analogies. It should have occurred to me that golf and baseball have very little in common. Anyways, this looks like a possible fix for my early extension issues. Thanks for another great video!
And ,,, the discussion of how the knees work as the hips rotate was very helpful.
Appreciate it man! Thanks for the support---help it helps guide you!
Great video. You seem to ask all the right questions. Very helpful
Appreciate it man!
Wow, I will belt up the next game I play! Great information as normal from Eric! Many thank Sir!
Hope it helps, Alan!
Eric, like you said a great percentage of golfers should probably watch this video. I know I have this same exact issue. Even knowing what to do and how to do it I was still initially making the error. It took about 10 times of lining up and recording it b4 I did the correct thing.
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i have been setting up Butt back weight on the balls of my feet. Believe me, doing that is veryvery easy . to do weight doesn't always go to the heels with butt back tks so much for your dedication to helping us who love golf but play like crap
Our pleasure! Hope this one was helpful!
Great video. This pinpoints pretty much all my major flaws with my swing. Excited to test it out!
Appreciate it! Hope it serves you well!
Eric and company great instruction. I like many want to be balanced so as to protect my back from injury long-term. Additionally I want consistency. Thank you men....
Thanks, John! Hope it helps my friend!
i have just recently seen similar advice from only a few other coaches everyone else for 100 years has said bend from the hips not the mid area even one well known coach says the hips go back when tilting forward flat back chin up chest up eyes looking down the cheeks i cant play worth a damn iam definitely not doing what you guys advise more but back flat back when did this100 year old setup advise take a 180 degree turn iam certainly going to implement your instructions next time out tks for your comments on this confusing point in the setup
Hope this one helps, George!
Great video! I am guilty of the "athletic" stance and now I see my issue. Work to do on the range!
Thanks man! Hope it serves you well. Mess around with it in mirror....almost always makes downswing pieces easier.
When center of hips setup behind center of ankles too much at setup we have no where to go but hips in in downswing
O you get back pain with your “old” swing
Great video and description of the many different movements in the swing....you talk about how the majority of club golfers lack mobility and flexibility and therefore have trouble getting the pelvis turned and avoiding early extension. The key is getting the hips right at set up but how often do you find that the golfer is actually able to maintain or control their hips throughout the swing (if they have the issue at set up)? I would think that once they start into the more dynamic movement of the swing they would lose that posture majority of the time???
Hey--thanks!
I would say 80% (ish) of golfers I personally see have the center of hips sitting too far back behind the heels.
that would be the main issue to me.
The center of pelvis sitting back behind ankle generally puts weight back on heels (which you know)
As the golfer creates motion from that starting point their brain/body has no where to go but forward (to counter balance)
That forward motion generally speaking will kick pelvis in toward ball and level out belt line.
The prohibits any turning and tilting from happening
That would be my personal main point here--hope that helps clarify my thoughts
So helpful for early extending. I’ll I’ll admit, it’s not as aesthetically pleasing as an “athletic” setup, but unfortunately people see guys like Rory and want to look like that, problem is, they’re not freaks like Rory who can get into crazy positions on the downswing. Even tiger seems to have gone back to a more neutral posture.
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I changed my driver set up to get my hips more forward yesterday shot 76 at the Brickyard in Indy from 6700 (I’m 65). I just killed my driver - did not come out of a single drive. Hit is sooooo much better.
Fantastic to hear Anthony!
Hi Eric, clearly all makes sense and clearly great video. My question is why do so many professional golf players are maintaining a lot right knee flex at their top of backswing? Thanks.
Hey! Great question.
I do not think so many MAINTAIN trail leg flex. I have seen thousands of pro swings analyzed and every single one BUT 2 have lost flex in their trail leg (it straightened SOME)
Obviously some more, some less.
One of the BIG things to understand is the trail leg straightening in backswing allows/effects the hips to turn.
PGA player who is an elite athlete, gets physical training, stretching, working on their bodies everyday.....they are WAY more mobile and in better shape.
SO.....the average golfers who sits all day and works out very little with tight hips, weak core, etc....cannot turn enough with trail leg more flexed. Hips don't turn then torso doesn't turn, then arms/hands cannot go in enough....etc etc
So average golfers need more help because their bodies dont work as well as PROS
@@CogornoGolf Thank you Eric. Very well explained.
Very well explained!
Thanks, Daniel!!
"To be able to move in a way that would keep our relative tilt to the ground, somewhat constant."
"Yeah...(grin/chuckle) ... perfect."
That feeling as a golf coach when someone describes a complex topic so clearly and so succinctly, and you wonder why you hadn't though of it a long time ago.
Lol 100%! He did that many times to me :)
Hi Eric, quick question if you have time - does this principle also apply to the driver? Appreciate the awesome content bro.
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This is sooooo good. Definitely need this but feels so different that I'm gonna have to find a drastic feel to correct the faults. Legs suddenly feel like powerful pistons but I ain't got no control! :D haha
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Tucking the pelvis more has legit changed my swing, I can actually reflex my trail leg in the down swing and actually rotate through impact instead of early extend!!
Love to hear this!!
Eric, I have been told (and video confirms) that at setup my hips are too far behind me...hips sockets are behind my heels in DTL view. Whenever I move them forward to be over my ankles as suggested in this video, I feel my weight more toward my toes. When I re-balance my weight to the middle of the foot, my hips/butt moves back to the bad place again. What can you recommend for someone who struggles to get hips properly over the ankles without shifting weight too far toward toes?
Hey! Yeah you probably need to FEEL like they are on toes in the beginning
Want weight on BALL OF FEET
Not middle, not toes. In between.....where toes meet base of foot/shoelaces end
But its normal to FEEL on toes if you're coming from heels
Then video to confirm where you really are compared to feel
Check these out more too to help:
ruclips.net/video/5REpAHSNZd0/видео.html&pp=ygUiRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHNldHVwIGVhcmx5IGV4dGVuc2lvbg%3D%3D
ruclips.net/video/sFApkC1N-L4/видео.html&pp=ygUiRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHNldHVwIGVhcmx5IGV4dGVuc2lvbg%3D%3D
That explains alot for me, thx.
Our pleasure Todd!
This is not a loaded statement or an overly critical statement. But this seems like what I run into when I've taken formal lessons in the past. That is, you are describing good fundamentals for the setup but they are targeted towards one body type. Someone who is 5 ft 10 and 170lbs. I know that I need to become more fit, lose some weight, but I am 6 ft 1 and I'm barrel chested with short arms. It helps me to be a little more bent over so that I can swing my arms underneath and up more freely, avoiding my thick chest a little. Would you say that this setup is for any body type?
Thanks for the feedback, Ken!
Certainly some things would be player dependent.
Eric, do you have any videos on hitting off the toe of the club? I am consistently hitting it off the toe. To me it looks like when I am coming down my hands are too close to my body. Even when I do not early extend, my hands are still coming down from the inside but not enough out it seems. I have even purposely tried to hit it off the hosel and I could not do it if my life depended on it. LOL
Hey!
I do not think we have one specifically on toe shots but may have to do one!
I would really need to see your swing to say for sure...join www.cogornogolf.com so you can send in your swings and we can work together.
Could be a swing direction issue, vertical swing plane issue, EE, etc.
Been working on this exact set up and the changing leg flex the last 2 weeks and it’s added a whole club of distance and killed my hooks. Until I forget and go to my normal setup of course
Love it....lol you'll remember eventually :)
Great video. Oftentimes, telling someone to get into an athletic posture means to them getting ready to field a ground ball to short. 😂 Love the "equal and opposite" thought behind this as well. Awesome stuff.
Appreciate it--chris! 100%%
So would you say that to much athletic aka butt pointing out creates less turn, and becomes more of an arm swing? Because the lower body gets stuck? I was given a lesson where a ball was put between my knees to create more turn but I feel like I’m reality it causes me to become all arms which creates an over the top action because my knees are locked ?
Yes
will we have to stand closer to the ball in order to accomplish this
Some will for sure yes
Hi Eric
That was a great video.
I've been in the camp of having the stuck out butt at setup which has contributed to my early extension. I had no idea this was a problem until I saw this video.
I'm yet to hit the course with this knowledge, however when I practice in front of a mirror and consciously tuck my pelvis further forward and get more into that position of middle of hips over ankles, i am able to rotate so so so much easier. Previously I'd be able to rotate shoulders about 70 degrees or so, and this slight setup change has allowed for 90 degrees with ease (maybe 100 even). It's quite unbelievable actually!
Quick question.. is this pelvis set up principle consistent for a good putting set up too? (Ie middle of hips over ankles).
All the best
Will
Love it will----you are in the same boat as a lot of golfers we work with
Putting a different animal :)
@@CogornoGolf thank you EC
The "deadlift" posture is absolutely my stance. Is that why I'm busting my back up so much? I've had some real lumbar strain.
Hey Ryan! It certainly isn't helping!
@@CogornoGolf I'll work on it. Thanks for this video.
Eric, wanted to know how you picked all the instructors you did videos with when you were in Florida?
Hey! People who
A) I thought were great instructors from a far
B) Would be able to provide a great message to you guys
C) Were available to meet/film
Do you keep tucking the pelvis during the swing or is it on for setup?
Hey Jim!
I think these two videos will answer your question best!
ruclips.net/video/sFApkC1N-L4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/lSOHKUmLq7w/видео.html
Let us know if you have any questions!
well detailed thanks
Thanks, Don!
Waooo Eric amazing video !! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks!
This is the opposite of what my PGA coach told me at GOLFTEC and I’m so confused as what to believe. He did it because I was standing too close to the ball and unable to come from the inside because of it. My hamstrings are too tight to stand straight and being as far from the ball as he wanted. If my butt if farther back because my knees are bent keeping my weight centered in my feet, is that still a problem?
Here is where the setup should be with all the checkpoints, distance, etc
ruclips.net/video/c5FJRwZ_GnI/видео.html
If keegan Bradley's doesn't win tonight, it's because he wasn't able to see this video before tee off
LOL 100%!!! Thats funny.
Of course he is an anomaly there :)
When Eric takes his glove out of his pocket as he’s still talking you know knowledge is about to go down.
Lol that's funny....I realized that as well....its like part of my routine I guess :)
So, bending from waist instead of hips?
Yes!
Nice
Thanks!
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When I tuck my hip I find it causes be to lose knee flex at setup
Yep...thats normal. You want to get knee caps roughly over balls of the feet. Use a video/mirror to confirm and simply adjust to hit that point.
Okay I’ll have to keep knee flex and tuck. Thanks for all your help bro. I know you reply to slot of my questions and I appreciate that.
Probably a great conversation between the 2 of you. However, I suspect for the majority of the viewers, they probably didn;’t follow your conversation. More demonstration of the points would have been helpful.
Thanks for the feedback--sorry about that!
@@CogornoGolf Just as FYI, I love your work and videos. They are very good and informative. You’re an effective golf instructor. Please keep it up.
Your set looks the opposite to what is usually recommended as far as I can assess. The back looks too rounded
The back SHOULD be rounded.....thats the whole point here! Re watch that part