35 Minutes of the Ups and Mostly Downs of the Canucks History

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024

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  • @bdonaghu
    @bdonaghu 3 года назад +189

    So who's suffered more: Canuck Fans or Sabres fans? The answer is "yes"

    • @-EJ-
      @-EJ- 3 года назад +30

      Maybe the real suffering was the friends we made along the way

    • @tmdwu5360
      @tmdwu5360 3 года назад +12

      @@-EJ- Mark Messier?

    • @TrevorPhilips
      @TrevorPhilips 3 года назад +16

      VAN at least has been competing a lot... basically 2nd or 3rd most NHL Wins for about 15 years only behind Detroit at the turn of the century
      I think BUF has had it worse :(

    • @ryanbabkiewicz8629
      @ryanbabkiewicz8629 3 года назад +1

      He should do a Sabres one

    • @mp40submachinegun81
      @mp40submachinegun81 3 года назад

      Leafs fans.

  • @colliesis
    @colliesis 3 года назад +57

    I kind of saw this coming after your mini-rant about the bad and not-so-bad years of the Canucks, but I'm still impressed you got a board and video about it together so quickly!

  • @Wanup_Vodka
    @Wanup_Vodka 3 года назад +40

    The secret to your success is very neat printing.

  • @jeremyarmstrong7093
    @jeremyarmstrong7093 3 года назад +26

    I grew up in the decade of hope for the Canucks, the 2000s

  • @wertytrewqa
    @wertytrewqa 3 года назад +33

    The biggest heartbreak in Canucks history was when Lidstrom scored on cloutier from half court. I stopped watching Canucks for 6 years after that series

  • @DonkeyKiks
    @DonkeyKiks 3 года назад +31

    Gonna sign up for your patreon later today. I noticed I've basically stopped watching all other hockey media outlets and get everything through here. The least I can do is a small subscription each month.

  • @DavidMartinez-cq3hx
    @DavidMartinez-cq3hx 3 года назад +3

    As a longtime Sharks fan I have always respected Vancouver, our 1st game ever was against the Canucks at the old Pacific Coliseum. I always liked players like Pavel Bure, Marcus Naslund and Trevor Linden. That 2011 Conference Finals was such a weird ending I will never forget it ever. Hopefully both of our teams will have better luck in the upcoming seasons.

  • @c_hanley
    @c_hanley 3 года назад +28

    You have to be a special kind of masochist to enjoy being a fan of the Vancouver Canucks for as long as people like us have.

    •  3 года назад

      50 years...

    • @bilalfarah2005
      @bilalfarah2005 3 года назад +2

      @ I’m a Canucks fan for 4 years now lol that’s when I started watching hockey

    •  3 года назад

      @@bilalfarah2005 Woah! Rough start.

    • @jonbradley4044
      @jonbradley4044 2 года назад

      23 years checking in. Obviously haven't been around as guys like Shannon, but seeing both the West Coast Express era and Sedin Era teams come and go without cups has been painful.
      It honestly is starting to look like the Horvat era team isn't going to get there either, which sucks but it may be time for another rebuild.

  • @tmod3266
    @tmod3266 3 года назад +12

    I would love to see a breakdown of each team’s history in this format.

    • @Dystopia1111
      @Dystopia1111 3 года назад +1

      2nd this. I'm not a Canucks fan (or hater), but still found the whole vid interesting. Would definitely love a full series like this.

    • @maxrates
      @maxrates 3 года назад

      Yeah it's a good overlook how each team has done over the years

    • @September2004
      @September2004 3 года назад

      How big of a whiteboard would he need for the Original Six teams? Holy moly.

  • @ajyu7289
    @ajyu7289 3 года назад +5

    Shannon you are so good to us

  • @jackfoster3652
    @jackfoster3652 3 года назад +4

    I saw this video and immediately clicked on it. I have visited Vancouver but I didn't truly understand the suffering of that team until I found your channel THG. I'm from Indiana and a Pacers fan, so I know what it's like to always be soooooo close yet never just being able to get over the hump. It will be VE-Day levels of pandemonium when you guys eventually win the cup

  • @f.n04
    @f.n04 3 года назад +3

    That was great to watch this whole video idea come to life from a quick mini rant in a news video

  • @TrevorPhilips
    @TrevorPhilips 3 года назад +5

    VAN is basically tied for 2nd most NHL total Wins from 2001 to 2015
    Canucks have has extremes but at least the modern teams have often been competitive. Things could have been better but also a lot worse.
    (BTW team with most wins 01-15 is DET and team VAN is basically tied with is SJS.$

  • @hayesward9761
    @hayesward9761 3 года назад +9

    You should make this a series where you review teams over the summer after playoffs.

  • @sportsrook8282
    @sportsrook8282 3 года назад +3

    Always appreciate the time and effort you put into each video, even if you the main point you have to discuss is the woes of the Canucks.

  • @kylespencer7756
    @kylespencer7756 3 года назад +3

    Man, gotta feel bad for Pat. After everything he did for, and gave to Toronto and Vancouver, He didnt get enough respect at times as he deserved.
    I remember back when the leafs whereabouts 4 or 5 years into that brutal playoff drought. I had seasons tickets to the Vancouver Giants, and he was a part owner at the time.
    He came to the season ticket holder party thing at the beginning of the season. He was the only guy who's autograph I bothered to get. And I straight up asked him if he would "please go back to Toronto and save the leafs". He just looked at me straight faced and said "last time I was there they ran me out of town, I dont think that will be happening".
    I'm glad the Nux actually tried to do right by him and get him that statue.

  • @pineapple97
    @pineapple97 3 года назад +1

    Listening to your video put my baby to sleep while entertaining me. Thank you.

  • @petrsimak9555
    @petrsimak9555 3 года назад +2

    Out of the 2nd round three times in 50 years... that's brutal!

  • @brandonnarayan5796
    @brandonnarayan5796 3 года назад +8

    I remember the 11/12 season. It honestly felt like we coasted the whole season. Like nothing really mattered until the playoffs, and even then not until the later rounds.

    •  3 года назад

      They were out in the first round.

    • @allghilliedup21
      @allghilliedup21 3 года назад

      We kind of pulled a Tampa before Tampa did a Tampa in 2019.

  • @gregmakarov8025
    @gregmakarov8025 3 года назад +8

    The aquilinis have been steadily digging a grave for this franchise. Screw em

  • @deepvoicegames5024
    @deepvoicegames5024 3 года назад +1

    both Sabres and Canucks join the league at the same time and both have the same issues through the years. Would love to see both teams meet each other in the finals

  • @brickyguy5026
    @brickyguy5026 3 года назад +1

    Saw this coming after the NOTD video. Love the attention to detail you put into every video!

  • @davidmollenhauer7580
    @davidmollenhauer7580 3 года назад

    Great summary of the Nux history, frank and honest.

  • @danielupsdell2697
    @danielupsdell2697 Год назад

    Very nice how you went through every season like that loved it I went to my first Canuck game when I was 7 years old in 1972

  • @RobCl1985
    @RobCl1985 3 года назад +1

    To be fair, if you're early to mid 30's, you've had it pretty good. 2 game 7 cup runs, west coast express, Sedins, a few dominant regular seasons with a couple of president's trophy in there. From 76-91, though... ouch.

    • @matturner6890
      @matturner6890 3 года назад

      I'm 30 this year. The benefit of starting to watch in '98 was that there was actually nowhere to go but up. And being 7 years old made even the most boring game fun to watch.

  • @devinudsen1948
    @devinudsen1948 3 года назад

    I watch each and every Canuck video Shannon makes. Most of them hurt so much....

  • @DARK24-7
    @DARK24-7 3 года назад +1

    Been a Canuck fan since '81 or so-they fit right in w/the rest of the teams i root for...Nords,Jets(original and new),North Stars,Whalers,etc...

  • @jahmanoog461
    @jahmanoog461 3 года назад +1

    Hockey fans feel the pain. Being a PENS fan in the 1970s was very painful-- watching MTL play BOS for the Cup every year. They get superstar Mario, buy it still takes six years to build a team around him to win a Cup. Once the Canucks get a Cup, the team pride grows and fans have a tradition, a 'remember when we were the best. Canuck fans will appreciate that Cup when they finally win one.

  • @williamm1981
    @williamm1981 3 года назад +2

    I was at the game 6 loss to L.A in 93, first and only time I saw Gretz live.

  • @charlesmartineau
    @charlesmartineau 3 года назад +4

    Hey Toronto never made it to the finals since the Canucks joined the NHL

  • @TrevorPhilips
    @TrevorPhilips 3 года назад +2

    I’m super optimistic about VAN. One of the highest potential young cores in the league (4-5 forwards, 1-2 dmen, 1 goalie).
    Fact they’re even playing now is fortunate so hopefully get get a good dman draft pick and this summer and next summer almost all the bad contracts are gone so there’s tremendous potential IMO.

    • @777poco
      @777poco 3 года назад +1

      what an optimist, lets see what happens in the next couple of years, I've been an optimist since 1971, look where that got me

    • @ANT4G0NIST
      @ANT4G0NIST 2 года назад +1

      fast forward a year and benning left his mark and gave us OELs contract that we have to carry for another 5 years

  • @davidmollenhauer7580
    @davidmollenhauer7580 3 года назад +1

    The Aquilinis hired a players' agent, Mike Gillis to be the team's GM, who then mortgaged the future to pay for the 2011 Cup run. How much of Luongo's 'current income is still being paid to him by the Vancouver Canucks, one decade later? The Aquilinis run this team like a real estate development project, and they're very poor at that as well. You filmed a recent video Shannon, about fan bases who want to fire their owners (all of them). We do have the hokiest ownership group in the NHL, and that is the main reason good players are reticent to play here.

  • @MH-fm8fd
    @MH-fm8fd 3 года назад +3

    I'm 21 and even I don't feel like I'll ever see the 'Nucks win a cup in my lifetime

  • @jordannovak2268
    @jordannovak2268 3 года назад +1

    It's May Madness now!!!

  • @ssboooy4153
    @ssboooy4153 3 года назад +3

    Aquilini’s can’t be touched. Which is the sad part. But if they had any respect for this franchise, they’d give up the aspect of control over leadership and fire Benning, and hire an actual GM who knows what to do and has a semblance of self respect amongst the league. Otherwise we’re sitting in a puddle.

  • @charliem9831
    @charliem9831 3 года назад +1

    The video just started and seeing the whiteboard I’m for real LOL 😂

  • @robbie4750
    @robbie4750 3 года назад +3

    Guess this is the perfect video to make my Monday even more miserable.

  • @subraxas
    @subraxas 3 года назад +1

    Well, 1998-99 was the season when Bure was gone and Mogilny missed almost a half the games due to injuries, so that's why the scoring dropped so massively. :-(

  • @nolanmcnaught2926
    @nolanmcnaught2926 3 года назад

    love your content keep up the great work!

  • @maxrates
    @maxrates 3 года назад

    This is good, you should make one for the Sabres

  • @eetfuk4664
    @eetfuk4664 3 года назад +3

    canucks need a timemachine to restart the entire franchise with all the knowledge they have now. but that would probably still not be enough.

  • @Brandon-qd2lb
    @Brandon-qd2lb 3 года назад

    Do more of these!

  • @FischerFan
    @FischerFan 3 года назад

    In 1975, twelve of the eighteen teams made the playoffs.
    The four division winners got first-round byes, while the best eight teams that did not win their divisions played in the first ever best-of-three preliminary rounds.
    Vancouver won the second game of their series with Montreal, then were eliminated in overtime of game 5.

  • @flylogan2954
    @flylogan2954 3 года назад +2

    Will you post these many videos next season?

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 года назад +7

      I used to post 5 videos a day. I generally post four a day this year. Four is likely to stay as the normal amount next year.

  • @yutz2109
    @yutz2109 3 года назад +2

    I'm beginning to understand why Vancouver riots with each Cup loss.

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph1 3 года назад +1

    Love the video title.

  • @dibs0equiped
    @dibs0equiped 3 года назад +1

    I hope success with The Canucks

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 3 года назад +1

    As a Sharks fan we’re on our way there

  • @markko17
    @markko17 3 года назад

    "Keep hope alive!" I've been a Kings fan since Sheldon Kannegiesser (now there's a name!) was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. After the '93 Finals and the following Bruce McNall/franchise meltdown I said to myself, "Well, that's it. Never gonna happen. If we couldn't do it with the greatest player ever, we never will." The first decade of the 21st century was pretty bleak and even when Sutter got hired, my reaction was, "Meh, another coach, so what?" The rest, as they say, is history.

  • @bachbirder8598
    @bachbirder8598 3 года назад

    Hey Shannon, if you got to make the decision, would you have put Schneider in net for game 7 vs. the Bruins?

  • @FischerFan
    @FischerFan 3 года назад

    1988 amateur draft: The Canucks pass on Jeremy Roenick, Rod Brind'Amour, and Teemu Selanne (hall-of-famer) to select Trevor Linden.

  • @andrewlindberg7020
    @andrewlindberg7020 3 года назад

    Pleaaaaase make one of these for every franchise haha

  • @Wugpot19
    @Wugpot19 3 года назад

    I don't remember a few things the same as you. Don't remember people really harping on Luongo until after the meltdowns against the Blackhawks, certainly not in the 06-07 season. Also I remember people being extremely hostile towards Mike Gillis when he was first brought in. July 1st 2008 Vancouver didn't sign anyone and people wanted blood.

  • @williampilling6576
    @williampilling6576 3 года назад

    Even as someone who has always grown to despise the Canucks... i legit feel bad for your team. Never really had a long sustained run of dominance and perhaps with the new core it could happen

  • @dmac26official
    @dmac26official 3 года назад +3

    my goodness. look at that white board! just FULL of statistic-y goodness!

  • @matthewqualiotto4578
    @matthewqualiotto4578 3 года назад

    Can this be a series

  • @marinetropicsi.2907
    @marinetropicsi.2907 3 года назад

    The Canucks, as well as Crosby scoring for GOLD, are the team that made me love hockey, starting from just over 10 years ago in 2010. By the end of 2011, it was painful to swallow the truth pill and say, “The Bruins are a better team.” Funny how to this very day, they still are: it shows that you don’t need a #1 draft pick to win a cup/be a cup-contender.
    In the years that followed Vigneault as a coach, I thought the Sedins were underperforming and the team needed some changes to create a cup-contending team once again. I was totally wrong: Sedins should have hit the road as the ‘Nucks were done without a significant rebuild as you mentioned. But I'd bet that this was just not an option to their GMs & crummy owners.

  • @kenjilee6139
    @kenjilee6139 3 года назад

    Besides Benning (or his staff) drafted Boeser, Pettersson, and Hughes, he sank the team with bad contracts and he threw away prospects and draft picks for nothing.

  • @luckyjosh7
    @luckyjosh7 3 года назад +1

    The Vancouver Canucks: A Legacy of Failure - The Hockey Guy Edition

  • @seamusoleary3712
    @seamusoleary3712 3 года назад

    Has a team ever finished first in goals for and first in goals against? That's an amazing stat, and IF they had won the Stanley Cup, you would have to write that down as one of the greatest teams in the modern era.

  • @michaelinglis1856
    @michaelinglis1856 3 года назад +1

    Love it!

  • @love4adventurz
    @love4adventurz 3 года назад +2

    As a Canucks fan there are no up moments in Canucks history because they all ended in heartbreak or absolute disasters hello 2011 man it is hard to cheer for this team sometimes haha

    • @darthvader3742
      @darthvader3742 3 года назад

      Yeah this team makes it hard for me to cheer for them at times

    • @love4adventurz
      @love4adventurz 3 года назад

      @@darthvader3742 I still got PTSD from 2011😰😂

  • @freedom_fighter4317
    @freedom_fighter4317 3 года назад

    The top 10 positives : 1) trading Alec Stojanov for Markus Naslund 2) trading Dale Tallon for Gary Smith and Jerry Korab 3) trading Bryan McCabe for a draft pick (Sedin) 4) trading Dan Quinn and Garth Butcher for Cliff Ronning, Geoff Courtnall, Sergio Momesso and Robert Dirk 5) trading Trevor Linden for Todd Bertuzzi and Bryan McCabe 6) trading Peter Nedved for Jeff Brown 7) trading a 2nd rounder for Jyrki Lumme 8) trading Curt Fraser for Tony Tanti 9) trading Don Lever for Darcy Rota and Ivan Boldirev 10) trading a 2nd rounder for Gerald Diduck

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 3 года назад +1

    Coulda shoulda woulda it is what it is We need to forget the past it's water under the bridge Move on and just build with what we have. We have some opportunities still don't write things off yet

  • @ssboooy4153
    @ssboooy4153 3 года назад

    The problem with this ownership, and yes it’s OWNERSHIP* who decides which person they can control in the front office, being Jimbo...is the inability to passover impatient money and allow any potential greater financial and competitive success this team can have. And they choose to not adhere to the fact that it hurts them even more than if they chose to be patient and run smart hockey management. And it’s odd being how cheap they are, they manage to spend to the cap on useless contracts. They have never and are incapable of properly rebuilding a team, and it breaks my heart that that may be the reason this franchise doesn’t find long-term success. Undisciplined Spending, Poor Asset Management, Impatience and lack of foresight is the summary of their ‘plan’

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 3 года назад

    Free agent: I don't want to go there.
    GM; How about $9 million a year for 8 years and a no trade clause.
    Free agent: Wow, I am glad you put me right there with Jeff Skinner. Where do I sign?

  • @robertfelton8374
    @robertfelton8374 3 года назад +5

    Atlanta has had two NHL teams leave, at least Van and Buff still have teams.

  • @FrostCoyote
    @FrostCoyote 3 года назад

    How much do you attribute good drafting to the gm vs the scouting department. If you don't give Benning credit for drafting he's been outright brutal

  • @TheArcher143
    @TheArcher143 3 года назад

    So this is why he had a rant about the Canucks rich history of success.

  • @nuck97
    @nuck97 3 года назад

    Holy madness Batman!

  • @swedreamhack5308
    @swedreamhack5308 3 года назад

    I don't quite understand how both Van and Cgy could collapse like this. I still somehow feel Van isn't back at the 15/16 level and perhaps this could be a matter of changing GM.

    • @Electricalphil
      @Electricalphil 3 года назад

      Don't panic, things will be fine next year.

  • @Taylod1
    @Taylod1 3 года назад

    Was that Gary on the phone?

  • @tylermccollum5540
    @tylermccollum5540 3 года назад

    I honestly think the Canucks are close. The core pieces are there. There's just alot of mishandling of the veteran players. Dating way back when he started working for Vancouver in the first place. Between that and not gauging how important Tanev was to the room and to Hughes. They might be back to finding someone else to fill that slot for now and the future before being playoff ready again.

  • @ryans413
    @ryans413 3 года назад

    If Edmonton can turn it around and they need to prove it still in the playoffs but if oilers can Canucks can

  • @robertfelton8374
    @robertfelton8374 3 года назад

    We shall rise again.

  • @GhostOfJohnLennon
    @GhostOfJohnLennon 3 года назад

    Can anyone confirm this? I’ve heard that it the Canucks opening game in 1970 they skated laps around the Stanley Cup in centre ice. Anyone know for sure?

  • @quag311
    @quag311 3 года назад +1

    Remember Beatlemania?

  • @woodstocknun
    @woodstocknun 3 года назад

    maybe it is the salt water from the pacific? maybe the ice melts in the arena or something..

  • @777poco
    @777poco 3 года назад +1

    I've watching the Canucks since 1971, I used to say I hate that hockey stick logo because its a loser logo, Shannon just pointed out they are all loser logo's, maybe the Canucks should have listened to Trevor, I think its time for a new GM

  • @johnny1121
    @johnny1121 3 года назад

    Lol I knew this video was coming

  • @Toxic_Male_Minimalist
    @Toxic_Male_Minimalist 3 года назад

    They will rise again.

  • @Andrew-wv7ql
    @Andrew-wv7ql 3 года назад

    Now do one for the leafs lol

  • @peterpike
    @peterpike 3 года назад

    Turning the corner in an Escher painting....

  • @christhornycroft3686
    @christhornycroft3686 3 года назад

    I don’t know what it was like for Canucks fans in the 70s and 80s (I can only imagine) but the late 90s were so bad I stopped watching - and my uncle bought me a Messier jersey. I didn’t stop watching entirely because of the Canucks - the instigator rule and the general on ice product around the league I’d fallen in love with in 90-91 just wasn’t there anymore. Expansion had a lot to do with that and poorer teams started playing the trap all the time. Boring hockey. The Canadiens of the 70s and 80s had a lot of success with strong defensive hockey without the trap.

  • @smithryansmith
    @smithryansmith 3 года назад

    Honest question: Why are the Canucks so disliked by fans around Canada? (outside BC). I'm just curious because I've noticed this and it's not like Canucks have any history of winning to resent.
    Just curious, I've no horse in the race.

  • @Mansini77
    @Mansini77 3 года назад

    “Thanks for the Mess”

  • @rogerszmodis
    @rogerszmodis 3 года назад +1

    The Canucks are the Seattle Mariners of hockey.

    • @fjthatguy9496
      @fjthatguy9496 3 года назад +1

      Nono, even the Canucks manage to make the odd finals every now and again

  • @rozzie101
    @rozzie101 3 года назад

    Its sad seeing all that red, for the Canucks teams over the years....

  • @goodeye6373
    @goodeye6373 3 года назад

    Vancouver either drafted poorly, played bad in bad draft years and hardly ever tried to build good teams. Bad GM's , poor scouting. Lacked team toughness in so many years. There is no team toughness right now. Not really anyone worth looking at in free agency. Not really any prospects who can make significant improvements right now. The recent acquisitions have not contributed at all. Zero points. There is a chance we could lose Petey to the Rangers. And we have not been in a rebuild only a retool which is different. I have been a huge fan going back to when I was just a kid and Suitcase was my guy. We have mostly been a no quit team, just lacked talent.

    • @goodeye6373
      @goodeye6373 3 года назад

      We have Rathbone, Lind, Nils, Jolievi ,Podz, the rest are questionmarks to even play.

  • @mathwiz3145
    @mathwiz3145 3 года назад

    Yzerman vs Benning
    sign for a team with hope? answer Yzerman
    sign for more money: Benning

  • @PooseUnpoos3
    @PooseUnpoos3 3 года назад +1

    holy madness board lol

  • @xboxrules8472
    @xboxrules8472 3 года назад

    It'd be a lot less work to just use a 50" monitor and cut and paste everything.

  • @angelodaconceicao5603
    @angelodaconceicao5603 3 года назад

    Owners need to step up push the bottom after this season bring in president operations and fired Benning of season changes , Benning will be revaluated this of season Let Go .no way he can do another year .He Got his chances

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 3 года назад

    Montreal only lost 7 games all year in 74-75 and they beat them in one game in the playoffs

  • @serfindukdb1776
    @serfindukdb1776 3 года назад

    Hmmm, posting this video on the 11 year anniversary of Shannon's most painful single game experience of his life? Coincidence?

  • @Detector1977
    @Detector1977 3 года назад +1

    this is what happenes when you refuse to rebuild and beat a dead horse.

  • @theknowledge7024
    @theknowledge7024 3 года назад

    35 minutes, if you did the leafs it would be a 48 hour video. Do me a favor and do the leafs next week.

  • @joemofo5689
    @joemofo5689 3 года назад +1

    Love the lows lol 🍻

  • @kylestoddart
    @kylestoddart 3 года назад

    This was hard to watch my friend

  • @pyrielrising4338
    @pyrielrising4338 3 года назад +1

    Where exactly were you in the 93-94 season on..... Mars? Bure scores 49 goals in the last 51 games on his way to winning the Calder that season and was the major talking point of the entire NHL and Vancouver has never had a major scorer.....Really!!! I realize that I am several years older than you and Not a Cannucks fan but I certainly won't forget that season. Lmao.

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  3 года назад +3

      Pavel didn't win the Calder in 1994...

    • @pyrielrising4338
      @pyrielrising4338 3 года назад

      @@TheHockeyGuy I stand corrected...but he did have back to back 60 goal seasons.

    • @Electricalphil
      @Electricalphil 3 года назад +1

      Literally nothing that you said happened. Good job you aren't a Canucks fan then

    • @pyrielrising4338
      @pyrielrising4338 3 года назад

      @@Electricalphil You might want to check your facts...Bure won the Calder(91-92) and did have back to back 60 goal seasons(92-93)(93-94)he was unfortunately prone to injury but despite that he still managed more than a point per game for his career.

    • @Electricalphil
      @Electricalphil 3 года назад

      @@pyrielrising4338 lol. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Bure