A lot of people have been misinterpreting the significance of Annie’s sleepwalking scenes. When Annie almost burns her children alive while sleepwalking she is doing it to protect Peter from his fate as a vessel for Paimon. Again when she is seemingly trying to pull Peters head off that is her subconsciously trying to stop the ritual from coming to fruition. If Peter died the ritual couldn’t be completed until another male was born into their families bloodline. Some subconscious form of maternal instincts were influencing Annie. It’s a shame she wasn’t successful.
DirtyDinner24 she didn't actually try to pull his head off. The arms came out the wall in Peter's dream. He was just so traumatized at that point he couldn't tell dream from reality.
I saw a director interview after the movie showing and he said that the dollhouse opening scene was used to show that a omnipotent force or a greater presence is the one in control of the family the whole time and this is the way to show that they were never really in control of their own lives.
juan mondragon Super late but to build on this, the first time in the classroom the topic is tragedies and one of the students ends up saying the most tragic is if there’s no hope for the characters, and they are just pawns in a game. Which the family ultimately was.
Yes! I rly hope he gets his other 20-50 screenplays into movies that he directs. I think hes one of the best screen writers/ directors in our time. I know this is his first full length feature but god damnit, it was good lol
I haven’t heard anyone talk about that bone chilling moment right at the end of the movie after Peter jumps out of the window and there’s complete silence but all you can hear is the sawing and then the head falling to the floor. That moment gave me chills
I legit considered leaving, I was so unnerved and anxious through the movie. The sound in this movie was everything. Similar to the music in the Shining.
There are so many parts of the movie (like when Annie discovers Charlie in the car while the camera is on peter) where the audio is the real scare. So freaky!
The whole sequence of the accident, to Peter slowly going home and crawling into bed, to hearing the parents' cries of anguish, to the shot of Charlie's head, to the scene of Annie breaking down in her bedroom while Peter listens from the hall, is one of the most haunting and emotionally taxing things I've ever seen in a film
I just saw the movie for the second time today, and I noticed something. Things must not have been moving along fast enough for Paimon. Here's why. There is a scene where the mother is painting one of her miniatures and she reaches for an orange bottle of paint, but an uncapped bottle of teal paint gets knocked over... that is farther away. We, the audience, don't notice because the director doesn't want you to so he angles the camera to make look as if the mother has knocked it over. But she actually hadn't. The bottle is too far away to have been knocked over by the mother, and she doesn't notice it herself either. The paint spills onto the scrap of paper that Joanie wrote her number on for the mother. In the next scene the mother goes over to Joanie's house where she notices the door mat. I think Paiman tipped over that bottle of paint to initiate contact with Joanie, because he was getting frustrated things weren't moving fast enough. He wanted a male body dammit!!
I’ve noticed that the blue bottle was farther away and that there was no way she could have knocked it over herself, I’m glad you gave an explanation! I was the only one in my group who thought that was weird!
@@arikawalton9922 you're not weird at all, lol. I caught it when I watched the movie for the second time. I was looking for anything I possibly missed (like when the mother was in the corner of the room above her son!!). Great movie😁
I couldnt sleep because of that, it scared the shit out of me when I saw it, and when those naked people standing behind peter in the attic was creepy also
SPOILERS AHEAD . . . I definitely think the demon was originally born into Charlie's body. At the end of the film, when Paimon (now in Peter's body) is crowned in the treehouse, Joan not only addresses Paimon, the demon, as "Charlie" and explains to him who he really is, but she specifically says "we've corrected your first female body". The word "corrected" here indicates that the demon was never really intended to occupy a female according to the cult's plans. She also says "body", singular, not "bodies", plural, as well as describing this body as Paimon's "first". In addition, the film puts a lot of emphasis on the fact that Annie's first pregnancy (with Peter) was not a healthy one, as she constantly tried to miscarry by "doing everything they told me I'm supposed to" while pregnant, since at the time, she was "scared", likely because she instinctively knew about her mother's eventual plan for the baby (this is also evidenced in Annie's sleepwalking/unconscious attempts to kill her children). Because of this, I think that the grandmother's plan was for the demon to possess her daughter's child in utero (remember, she convinced Annie to go through with the pregnancy, and the book Annie finds says that Paimon initially possesses the most "vulnerable" host available, which an unborn baby would obviously be), but because of the risks that Annie's actions posed to the (male) fetus, Paimon was either unable or unwilling to possess it. Because of this turn of events, the grandmother and the cult were forced to wait for Annie's next, more healthy pregnancy (with Charlie) to give the demon a vessel, and that vessel, unfortunately for the cult, ended up being female, making the later transfer of the demon into Peter's body necessary. Charlie even says that her grandmother wished she were a boy. The book Annie finds in her mother's things specifically says that Paimon requires a male vessel, so I don't see why the grandmother and the cult would purposely introduce him into any female vessel, let alone three, before introducing him into the male one that he required. That being said, I do think all of the (three generations' worth of) beheadings of Peter's (female) family members, not just Charlie's, were somehow a necessary part of the ritual of transferring the demon into his body.
Brit B. Paimon was mistakenly put into the female body. I think the film is called hereditary because paimon was only hereditary on the female side of the family.
DesNez By the female side of the family, do you mean Annie's side of the family (as opposed to her husband's), or do you mean just the female members of Annie's family?
Giovanni B I'm aware of that, thanks. I was just being courteous/trying to avoid getting stormed with replies by assholes telling me I ruined the film for them because they saw my comment and I didn't warn them that details of the film would be discussed. The video does the same, and I'm guessing for the same reasons, because, despite its title, there will always be people who can't figure these things out on their own.
He reacted the same way he did when he saw his sister die decapitated. The lack of reaction was shock and denial. When he saw the naked own people was when he knew he was in real danger - they were in fact the ones responsible for all that mess.
Danielle Johnson This morning, I was studying at my school, cause I have summer classes. And I swear to god, while I was studying, I heard that noise twice.
Man, I don’t think this movie will be fully appreciated until years from now. Now I’m not comparing Ari Aster to Kubrick but, this movie is on that level in my opinion. Such a great, smart “horror movie”. The acting is impeccable. The sequence after the party will stick with me forever. One of my favorite sequences in a movie, ever. Can’t wait to see it again. My local cinema is not playing it. I might just wait for blu Ray for my second viewing. Whichever way I see it, I can’t wait.
Can we talk about that crawling on the wall scene lol 😂 got me checkin my ceiling at night, and those grey naked people are creepy threw me off completely, but yoo this movie is so great
For real. Not to mention that the entire time its in full view in his room while he's looking at the Charlie spirit, but it's shot in a way that you're not *quite* sure there's even anything there...until it fucking scurries away. Jesus H. Christ.
Dianna Stroud FACTS lol 😂 i think this movie does an amazing job at really hitting you when you’re alone , like the fact that its not in your hands is the scariest part for me psychological AF
That got me. We know Peter was going to find his dad's mangled corpse and seeing possessed Annie walking on the wall behind him? Urgh. Nope. The naked cultists made me laugh out loud because it wasn't the shock of seeing his mother giving herself a new necktie...it was naked old people that sent him over the edge. (Also, love the female cultist who waves to Peter when she's buck naked.)
@Met3lAngel it's worth a rewatch tbf, as unnerving as it is. It's one of those movies that rewards rewatching with new things you missed last time or things at the beginning that make more sense the second time, I.e the grandma's letter to Annie.
As a mexican I can point too that thing about cults and religion. The scariest part of thinking and dissecting the movie afterwards was to realize that all the stuff the cult did was in fact based on how a lot of ultra-religous groups operate in real life and have an influence on whole families.
Exactly. The cult was basically like a Baptist church for a demon. Even the words they were using you’ll hear in a traditional church. And the way the grandmother basically commits Charlie’s life to the demon is the same way many Christians commit their children’s lives to god before they are even talking.
@@DatNiceDude Except not, since these sorts of people in the movie are clearly devoting their children to an evil force because they're evil and they're enslaved to it probably to a large degree. Christians (by and large) devote their children to God freely because they want them to be free FROM evil. In Christianity, God doesn't force parents or scare them with wicked imagery to devote their children, He gives them the choice to walk along a godly path. And the children ultimately have to decide for themselves if they want to continue living in a godly way as they mature, they're not coaxed into it by pernicious and evil means (though admittedly some parents are overbearing and do wrong in order to try and get their children to follow after them). But either way, a reasonable parent will want to impart what they think is best to their children, religious or not.
Jimmy Gray that’s really just your opinion. Religion is all opinion really. No one worships a god that can’t provide for them. Christian or not, devoting a child to an entity is weird. Just because you believe your god is a benevolent force doesn’t make it any less strange.
For me, the worst part was the mom sawing off her head with piano/razor wire. Visuals don’t affect me too much, but noises get to me a lot deeper. Legitimately the scariest, most terrifying movie I’ve ever seen. True horror master piece!
Its a movie that needs to be watched a second time..and third and forth etc for that matter. There is so much hidden stuff that you cant catch on the first viewing. If you are debating it, watch the "hidden details" clip on the Heavy Spoilers YT channel. Between that video and the Reddit page, it gave me a much bigger appreciation for Hereditary (and for Midsommar)
If Paimon already entered the world he might make mind-numbing content to decrease humans' ability to uncover his presence. Hmm, sort of like Logan Paul videos...
Man, I love this movie. Watched it twice in the theater, and actually enjoyed it more the second time, knowing what was going on. A lot like Neon Demon in that respect. I love movies that have that 2 for 1 experience.
@@saigalrahoul Neon Demon is incredible, but it's an art film so even people who understand the movie might not like it. @Robert Jones, I had the same experience with both of these movies though. Love them both, and I don't even like horror movies
I'm glad you liked it, let me start off by saying. I understand it's all subjective. But for me, while I will absolutely defend the film from a technical standpoint, it really fell flat for me. The direction was inspired, the cinematography was absolutely stunning, the performances (particularly form Toni Collette and Alex Wolff) were outstanding. But where the first two acts built up everything exceedingly well, the third act fell *so* flat for me. Everything up to the third act felt like it was more than what it was. The underlying themes and metaphors were clear, but not heavy-handed, it did its job well. But in the third act, the reveal of what was going on, it all felt so cliche, so basic. The ending felt like I was watching the middle of any number of movies I've seen before, if that makes sense. I don't know. Like I said, I'm glad most people liked it. I make my living in the horror genre, so any horror that does commercially and critically well, I'm appreciative of, and I fully support it. I think it's awesome that it's got people talking about it! I will absolutely be there opening night for Ari Aster's next effort, because I think hereditary was as strong a debut feature for a filmmaker as I've ever seen. But for me, it just wasn't nearly as scary as it was purported to be. Again though, I'm glad you liked it!
I couldn't agree more! I loved this film, I can't wait to watch it again. Movies like that are rare, and I completely agree about the 'Neon Demon' , that film is sooooooo insanely disturbing in a awesome way, it just takes some work to see what's going on and it's not for everyone. Some people prefer to be spoon fed a story which that's ok too I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I just really love film, as an artist medium , as a way to tell a story or many stories with, as an experience. I prefer to see a movie that might require a second viewing, because that's what makes film interesting. It stays with you, haunts you almost and those are the films that I consider masterpieces.
Am I the only one who sees the similarities between this film and The Witch? I mean besides the obvious (they're both horror movies from first time director's, produced by A24), they both center on a family who just suffered a tragedy (the baby in The Witch and the grandma in this film), both have the family slowly fall apart because of said tragedy, the family members die in the same order (the teenager, the father, the mother), and the only surviving member is the eldest child, who leaves to join the group responsible for the events of the film. When we got out of the screening for this film, my friend and I joked about it maybe being a secret sequel to The Witch, and that the demon from this movie was Black Philip trying to get a human host. Update after receiving comments from other place where I brought this up: I should clarify. I'm not saying that this film was a rip off of The Witch, just that they have very similar plots. I do believe that there are enough things that Hereditary does differently to where I feel like I didn't just watch the same movie. I mean, Baby Driver has the same exact plot as Drive, but those films are otherwise VERY different.
I mean, yeah; but that's more just a similar premise that is in no way unique to those three. There are films like The Shining, The Babadook, Oculus; "Family goes crazy and turns on each other" might as well be a sub-genre in horror. This film and The Witch had almost the same exact basic plot.
@Met3lAngel I love horror movies. I dont need jumpscares to get me scared. This movie was not scary. Period. It had its tense moments but overall it wasn't scary
I was a casual horror movie goer- I nearly walked out at the head scene. I left absolutely horrified but I am so glad I stuck with it. I’m in awe by hereditary. Amazing film- definitely makes most other horrors tame
My favorite element to that opening shot into the miniature house is how at first on the left it looks like a dark figure is looming over Peter as he sleeps. Then as the camera gets closer you can see it's not a figure looming over him but the imagery has done its job.
flibber123 yes!!! This is exactly why later on when Annie is on the ceiling above peter, and it holds for ages, I spent ages trying to work out if I was going crazy or if it actually was a person
@@SaraStar7373 yeah it was those long, tense, drawn out shots that gave the true horror to this film! Not some quick jump scares (although there's that one when Toni runs after Peter and up the stairs)
Grandma was never possessed by paimon. She was the conjurer who brought about paimon in Charlie. we can figure this out by the picture of grandma being showered with gold coins and the drawing from the book with "Riches to the conjurer" as it's caption. Also the art plays a big role in the whole story arc, as paimon is known as having the knowledge of all arts and secret things.
Awesome analysis. I was wondering if anyone would mention the peanut m&ms. Also worth noting Charlie's little sheepskin jacket she had on in bed. Almost like a hint at being offered up for the slaughter. Additionally, it seems as though it is inferred that the grandmother feeding Charlie may have had something to do with the demon being in her. Or at least aiding in the receptive state for Charlie. Like tenderizing the meat, so to speak. Well the tea that was given to Annie by Joanie had a little black something that she wiped from her mouth. If I were to wager a guess I would think that whatever she ingested in the tea (perhaps a bit of grandma's head) aided in making her receptive to whatever spirit needed to inhabit her to carry out the ritual. Just a thought.
I agree that it makes some sense for the m&ms to be peanut, but how do we know they are? Couldn't they be regular m&ms? After all, Charlie is shown eating a non-peanut chocolate candy bar at the funeral - she just really likes chocolate, which comes up later at the party when she can't resist chocolate cake, even though it should be fairly obvious even to Charlie who is distressed and doesn't want to be at the party that the cake has nuts in it.
Brian Koontz they’re bigger than regular m&ms and it looked like it was definitely m&ms. Could have been some other candy, idek, I think it’s just like a sneaked in detail that she is and isn’t allergic at different times, because the demon already at least .. partially occupies her body. Her “allergy” is sort of opportunistic for the cult to orchestrate their plans.
I'd imagine they weren't peanut M&M's, but in the cake scene, the nuts were clearly visible that Charlie had to know what she was doing. From the Hershey bar at the funeral to the Dove bar at the pigeon beheading and then the M&M's, I think it was just to show that Charlie would eat anything chocolate. I've heard theories that suggest she never had an allergy, but to me thats silly considering the parents asked her in the beginning at the funeral if the chocolate had nuts in it. First time I've heard about that sheepskin robe. Little stuff like that is why this movie is awesome. Also with the herbs, in addition to Annie's tea, Charlie was fed from a young age by her grandmother (that would've likely been Peter had Annie allowed her mother near him) and remember that she wanted Charlie to be a boy. The herbs were also in the weed that Peter smoked when he had that reaction to it.
Has anyone else noticed in this film that the color blue is RAMPANT when Paimon or his influence is around? From the blue bird hitting the window to her grandmother's blue casket, to the blue paint getting spilled, it's there. They get explicit when Paimon manifests with that blue light, but I'm in awe that even in the parking lot of that craft store the guy in the background walking with a woman is wearing that a blue shirt.
SoundCzech I’m a little late responding, but ultimately it’s because the demon king Paimon is the one pulling the strings at the end. Annie thinks she has it figured out but Paimon, as mentioned, is known for mischief. And also since he wasn’t done with Annie, he decides to just ignite the father instead of her. It’s also because having Annie feel the guilt of killing her husband would break her down even more and put her at that intense vulnerable state that Paimon needs to take control.
The one thing people keep glazing over by literally never mentioning it is the scene when Charlie is walking barefoot toward some fire in the meadow near their home. Annie comes out and stops Charlie from continuing on but makes no mention of a fire, so I can't figure out if it was really there or if Charlie was imagining it. Also? When Annie forces Peter and her husband to come downstairs to do the seance she is possessed by Charlie, right??? But Charlie never says much while alive and never seems afraid either, so the momentary possession of Annie by Charlie doesn't make any sense to me. What am I missing? I love how the rest of the movie really seems to be purposeful but those 2 scenes don't.
Penny Yeah I can see how it wouldn’t make sense, especially when Annie is possessed by Charlie. As for the barefoot scene I also haven’t really seen a good explanation so I can only assume that it was some weird cult stuff that Annie just didn’t take notice of. But idk your guess is as good as mine
Something I feel no one talks about is the specific expression toni Collete managed to pull off when she’s sawing her head off. Like the movement is rigid and disturbing, but the actually expression she has was branded in my eyes for months. I’ve never seen anyone in any movie, or real life, make an expression like that.
That’s crazy people thought that, I thought about that from the start of the movie. The name Finch even comes up in the opening credits. I wish that would have been the story they went with, because the actual movie was terrifying
Movies can be therapy bro. I’ve been to Iraq an Afghanistan as an infantryman and operator. PTSD is a real thing and movies can help. Comics too. Love the channel and LME. Much love Hermanito
I think something I wanted to add to the discussion is Alex Wolff's performance. People hated the crying but there was a purpose to cry like a child. He also called his mother "mommy". I think he wanted to return to being a child perhaps? What do you guys think?
He was traumatized as a child bc his mother tried to kill him in his sleep, and then those feelings resurfaced so it makes perfect sense for him to cry like a baby.
I think it's also shown in the book within the film is that Paimon has an aspect of creativity which Annie and Charlie express. These are significant parts of who these characters are so this adds to the film's mythology as well.
Great video, I didn't even notice all the reincorporation of the symbol, I'll definitely have to check it out again. I was actually thinking the light they keep seeing might be from an MRI machine. They usually have that green scanning light and I thought that fit perfectly with the themes of mental illness. It's great to have a horror movie that deals with some actual real world horror in a way.
The father begins writing an email to a psychiatrist saying that he thinks Annie is going through a breakdown, but the grave desecration email stops him. Maybe he did send that email, and Annie is losing her mind when in reality she’s been sent to get an mri and be institutionalised.
I noticed a possible rule changing mistake that the filmmakers were able to catch: When Annie is leaving Joan’s house after the seance she hands her the paper with the weird language to do her own seance at home. Joan says “make sure the whole family is in the house”. If you look closely at the actress she actually mouths the words “the room”. By that time her grandmothers body was in the attic. If they left the audio for her saying “the room” it would’ve changed the rules and ultimately been a plot hole for the ending.
An inaccuracy is that Paimon had actually been in Charlie ever since she was born and had not been passed on after the grandmother's death. It's hinted that in the movie and the director also revealed it in an interview
Love that you already had the new music on there - and i LOVE that you chose the song '4th dimensino' which seems kinda spectral AND its off the album Kids See Ghosts which is another theme - good shit! (and its a flip of the song 'what is santa bringing' which has ties to religion etc)
I'm hearing some people describe this movie as a black comedy. I've listened to the director talk about the humor in The Shining, but not specifically address if there was intentional humor in this film. A buddy of mine in Mobile, Al (unsophisticated) went to see the movie on opening night. He told that, although the movie was unnerving and definitely was scary, he burst out laughing at the car beheading scene. Then he told me, his laughing set off a chain reaction in the audience, and for the rest of the movie the audience was laughing at "inappropriate" times. Strange, I know. It's got me wondering, have other theaters had similar reactions. I also saw it on opening night, and my mostly full theater was quiet the entire time. But, I guess, in a vacuum there are some funny looking images. Like the headless corpse floating up into the treehouse at the end, the beheading I mentioned. But anyway, would love to hear some thoughts on this.
I saw this in Portland, yep people were laughing. Everyone chuckled at the scene where the mom was spilling her secrets to Peter, one guy couldn't stop laughing at the naked people, and I don't blame him.
I started laughing and couldn't stop during the scene when the mother told her son she didn't want to have him - not my proudest moment but it also created a chain reaction of other people laughing
I thought the beginning of the movie, where the camera pans into the miniature house and the family, that made the whole senario to be kinda unreal, surreal, or divorced from reality. Like a bad divorce where they split up the kids and the parents don't even talk to each other. It's great also because at the end of the movie the camera does the same in reverse thus giving the viewers an out to the movie, because at that point it was getting pretty uncanny. Like the mother floating out of the house into the tree house. I'm not joking I laughed at that.
sean hooper after the son falls out of the attic and the newly decapitated body of his mother floats across into the tree house? Yeah, I laughed at that.
i was horrified at that. it's not something you see every day. a floating, headless body. and it was the apprehension too, not knowing what was in that tree house
What Remains Of Edith Finch! I adore that game! I'm so glad you mentioned it, because the model house by the stairs in Hereditary reminded me a lot of it, and I just thought it was a weird coincidence!
One thing that really confused me about the ending, is how it seemed like it was just Charlie in Peter's body, not Paimon. Unless Paimon just acts like a confused child too, in which case, its kinda weird that hes so important or whatever. I couldn't figure out if the movie was trying to say that the cult screwed up and only successfully transferred Charlie, or if they actually succeeded and Paimon has to be told who he is and all that.
This is exactly what I got out of the ending. The cult may be good at witchcrafty spells etc., but they are just as delusional as any other cult that worship some kind of specific deity, and Paimon doesn't exist. All they managed to do was transfer Charlie's spirit into Peter's body (after killing her family), dooming her to a second life of being worshiped by crazy people (which is why you can see the trauma/ insanity settling into her/ Peter's face as the cultist bombards her with all that BS about Paimon). But hey, she was worried about who was going to take care of her right? At least that's covered now.
@@discoskull I feel like paimon was definitely part of the picture because we see Charlie react to the weird light reflection while she's in her room making creepy toys.
Someone on another video in the comment section pointed out that the scene where Alex Wolff raises his hand and slams his face against the desk was more than likely caused by Toni Collette’s dead brother. He was probably trying to kill him so that he wouldn’t be possessed. (Earlier in the movie there’s a conversation where they talk about the brother’s “schizophrenia” and how he killed himself (probably to save himself from being possessed).
Tyler Tompkins But the way he was holding up his hand in that weird salute was in one of the images of Paimon. So that kind of supports the idea that he was getting impatient waiting for his body.
I’m late but I had assumed that it was the brother because I was under the impression he had hung himself after being tormented/used as a sacrifice by paimon. like his hand being the rope and his face contorted as he died.
that makes sense, since paimon couldnt have been the one doing it to him cause otherwise he would have been able to enter his body and posess it all along. explains too why his face looks like hes choking
Oh, this is interesting. When I saw his hand go up like that, I immediately thought of the stereotypies that can happen in schizophrenia. Then I saw his face and was like, uh NOPE but couldn't figure out what was happening. Interesting that I halfway linked it to his uncle but didn't quite get all the way there.
my theory is that none of the movie actually happened, well, maybe a couple scenes. but, i think that most of the film's situations is annie creating situations through her miniatures (kind of like a director), and that light is from her magnifying glasses (glad you saw that too). so this whole plot that keeps spinning more and more out of control is just annie's way of reconciling how she never had a true connection with her mother and how she is dealing with that grief.
I like that! Within the movies canon she uses miniatures to portray her most traumatic moments (funeral home, street with pole, etc) although I don’t know what the kindergarten means, so it totally makes sense that if these events weren’t real, that she is expelling all her negative emotions into miniatures. Haven’t heard this theory before, so good job!
Pretty normal delusional for victims of mental health. Be kind to your elders and always respect yourself. God perseveres through it all only if you let him.
Thank you for making this video. I watched several analysis videos, and yours was the most detailed, insightful, and personal. You didn't just summarize or re-tell the movie, you looked at it through a unique critical but positive lens. I enjoyed!
Woah, woah, woah... I’ve been watching “Let me explain “ for months and I’m just now discovering that he’s super cute? Wtf? I needed a warning for that lol
How could the cult possibly orchestrate Charlie's beheading with the telephone pole? It had the symbol on it, but they couldn't have made Charlie stick her head out the car window at that exact time.
They placed a dead animal to make the care swerve towards the pole. Given that she was having an allergic attack it may have been theorized that she would have her head out of the window gasping for breath long before they got to the pole.
Nah... They already mention it like 3-4 episodes from the finale and it because it was so obvious, it only made the ending more annoying as we all hoped for something more interesting.
I actually think the Charlie who Joanie was referring to is Peter’s uncle. His reaction to seeing everyone was way different than Charlie’s (his sister) reaction when she possessed her mother. That was the most eerie part about Peter coming back after you thought he died, because we kind of forget that his uncle was chosen by Ellen to be the main vessel before her granddaughter was born. I also thought it was very interesting that Annie’s husband never mentioned to her that he got an e-mail that Ellen’s grace was dug up. And then when she thought she was the one to be burned to death to save Peter, her husband was. I think that was his punishment for calling her crazy and acting as though he has no idea what she’s talking about. I personally think he knew way more about the cult than he made it seem.
everybody is talking about the story and themes ...but so few people are talking about the cinematography ....it`s so brilliant ....that part where possessed annie is sitting in the corner of the ceiling while her son is waking up gave me hope for horror genre ,i mean a shitty director would of just pop a jump scare there but here it`s subtle ,i almost missed her just chilling there
I cried so much through my first viewing. I had so many spoilers but it still got me, Alex and Toni were the best part of the film. Milly being a close 2nd/3rd
Hei! I just wanted to say I really appreciate your videos. I think you have a really balanced approach when taking on any subject, leaning more towards the positive, understanding, empathetic side which I especially love about you. I wish we could hang out in real life and watch a film to then discuss it since you seem like such a wonderful person and such a cool guy :). You're doing a great job and I hope you have an amazing life! Lots of love from Romania, Maria
Dont think it was just sleep walking the mother had, but some kind of personality order like her brother and mother - hence hereditary. She didn't seem like a reliable protagonist, so wouldnt be surpirsed if some of her whack behaviour and other strange occurences in the film wasnt due to sleep walking but from the illness. Maybe she was unwarefully working with the cult
Noone's perfect, especially when attempting to oppose a demon. I mean, it's not like people train for that. Steve, the least mentally ill person in the movie, is the most useless because he doesn't believe in demons, even after receiving direct evidence of supernatural events during the family seance scene. Annie, the most mentally ill living person in the movie, is mentally ill precisely because she recognizes the reality of the demon, and recognizes that her family (barring the clueless Steve) is being corrupted by the demon. What she would like to do is to purify her children, to remove the demonic influence from their lives. But she has no background in that, no knowledge of it, and no ability to do so. She merely has good intentions and a lot of effort, yet even so that takes her a long way and delays Paimon's ability to enter the world, only failing when she witnesses the demon burn her husband to death just a few feet in front of her, and her will is damaged, allowing Paimon to possess her. It's quite unfair to criticize Annie for increasing Paimon's presence in their home through the seance. It would have been quite rude to have gone through her mother's things and uncovered crucial aspects of reality prior to when she did so. Bear in mind that she was attempting to *improve* relations with her mother until her mother's death. Also, Paimon already had *some* presence in the home prior to the seance, as he was the likely force that wrote the demonic names on the walls.
A Quiet Place, Get Out, and Us are more of those family centered horror flicks trending recently. Midsommar by Ari Asher too has the same dynamic. Great video though fam, you earned my sub.
Love your videos, including this one. Just one note. A nut allergy doesn't always include peanuts. My husband is allergic to tree nuts (including coconuts), but not peanuts (legumes). So almonds could give a horrible reaction but he can eat peanut m&ms all day.
The AtZ Show Thanks for replying! And that makes sense. Also, thanks for bringing up the other Ari Aster films. Managed to find them and just wow! Now that he's working on full length films and with how well he did with Heredity, I can't wait to see what else he comes up with!
Hereditary would have been a great movie even without the paranormal elements. That's why we love it so much. And also because how subtle and impactful it is all at once.
My family is just as bad, if not worse. I was assaulted in disgusting sick ways since I was 6 until I was 14 by my Uncle and his friends weekly and used like a toy, so you don't know what bad is.
The single most terrifying, unnerving, disturbing, and unsettling film l have ever seen. But in addition to all that, l find in it a very horrifying metaphor for the narcissistic, controlling, manipulative, selfish, inconsiderate, interfering, domineering, overbearing, meddling, conniving, undermining, and pathologically obsessive mother-in-law. It hits home for me viscerally, because l survived it, although my marriage unfortunately didn't.
this movie made me think back to the time when my mom were getting a divorce. that dinner scene was exactly like my family dinners months before the divorce itself. it goes deeper than that, when the mother said that she wanted to abort the son... let’s just say i have a reason to connect to that. just watched the movie tonight and i’m currently laying in bed, feeling sad thinking about my past or the little i remember from it since i’ve drowned those memories with countless horror movies.. this is the first movie to hit me this hard.
This whole movie, especially Charlie's decapitated head w/the ants to mom sawing off her own head with a fuckin garrote (dental floss?) stuck w/me & haunt my waking moments. Honestly, this movie is so layered, so deeply disturbing & unsettling but also so ingenious & filled with so many interpretations & possibilities that I feel like it's a modern day classic & not just a horror genre classic either (although it is def horrifying). A lot of ppl won't, cant, whatever the case may be - they just miss the viewpoints, they can't even come close to appreciating how amazing this fucking movie is; probably due to the imagery & how disturbing it is. It literally gets under ur skin & Ari Aster has proved himself to be the fucking king of "Unsettling" genre redefining horror. The man is a genius; one of a rare breed of filmmakers who can make a film so richly layered that u could watch it 100 times & see something new or form a new perspective every time. Talk about disturbing scenes, I'm now trying to get my 2nd viewing of MIDSOMMER in so I can watch it from a new perspective because the first viewing was all just basically me sitting in stunned, freaked the fuck out amazement. Ari Aster is a gift to filmmaking and thank God, so young that we'll definitely get a lot more from him, and it can only get better cus the guy is already at the top of his fucking game! Audiences don't "enjoy" Ari's films; they aren't meant to be popcorn entertainment they're meant to be unsettling, upsetting, crawling up the walls, under your skin, think about it for months after you watch it - type films & your average movie-goer doesn't really want that but a good subsection of us viewers do absolutely want that experience. Damn. Rambling.✌
i am 13 and was watching it with friends and got kicked out and snuck back in and it was worth it this movie was so terrifyingly amazing and orchestrated perfectly
“Churches do this too”? Dude any and almost every organization that wants you to join does that... (I’m just saying) anyway, cool breakdown...I thought this movie was amazing...
Great video. I didn't fully understand about the heads getting cut off but that makes sense how it was to release the demon from the body so it could move to the next person, but I do think the blue shimmery light was supposed to be paimon when he's not in a body. Also, its like paimon demanded 3 heads as sacrifice like shown in the book and in the end that's what he gets.
That ending scene where charlie takes peter's body and goes to the tree house and well, you know what i'm talking about, it's one of the most beautiful scenes i've ever seen aND i don't even like saying it because it's so dark and demonic.... the power of this film
great analysis of this movie. i think its important to mention that while Annie states doctors deemed the curses and rituals as mental disorders, that clearly wasn't the case here. i think the ending made it very obvious the causes were demons (just like your first point stated!). the grandmother supposedly had DID (dissociative identity disorder-- aka: multiple personality disorder). this disorder is *wildly uncommon* , and psychologists aren't even sure if it's a legitimate diagnosis. her unstable personality and constant manipulation was probably due to her demonic possessions and religious activities; doctors may not have understood and diagnosed with the closest possible answer. while schizophrenia IS hereditary (hey the movie title), i think that annie's brother and father were other cases of "freak accidents" at the mother's hands; however, it's possible that the trauma of growing up with the grandmother traumatized both annie and her brother so badly they both developed schizophrenia. annie experiences: hallucinations, delusions, paranoia, and occasionally a diminished emotional expression-- textbook schizophrenia. but that's the point. i think ari wanted to put viewers in this uncertain place: is it really mental illness or something deeper??? i kept going back and forth, wondering if this was a character hallucinating or if it was really happening, more often than not, it was really happening. that's the key. my point is, and what i hope most people get is, this film is not an accurate depiction of mental disorders. unlike a film like Split (which isn't ALL bad but... yikes), which makes a horror film out of a disorder, Hereditary felt very aware of the comments it was making. regardless, people with mental illnesses are not more likely to harm others or commit crimes- they are more likely a danger to themselves- and they are definitely not possessed by demons (which some cultures actually still believe.... again, yikes). SORRY FOR LONG POST :)
There's no such thing as a human being possessed by a demon in the real world because demons aren't real. That doesn't mean that mental illness in the real world is meaningless, which is what we commonly believe. As something meaningless, the mentally ill are deemed deficient, sick, and in need of help, or at least removed from society so that the "good people" don't have to interact with them. Once they are removed from society, they are then "treated", by which is meant "cured", by which is meant an end to their mental illness. But this presupposes that the mental illness has no meaning, no value - it's like Cancer - the only treatment is to remove it. With all due respect to the decades of treatment by "professionals", mental illness is a human choice, and it's not necessarily a bad choice, or at least the choice has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis and not assumed to be bad. While Annie's choice to be "mentally ill" in the movie is ultimately good because demons are real, demons aren't the ONLY thing that can justify mental illness. Mental illness is the attempt to achieve the "impossible", something that transforms the personality of the mentally ill into one dominated by frustration, anxiety, and despair. That's precisely why there's a connection between "geniuses" and the "mentally ill" - both are trying to do something profound - the difference is that the geniuses have some success. So let's say Annie was successful - let's say she learned more about the demon, how to oppose it more effectively, implemented that opposition, and successfully purified at least her family, if not the entire town (of cultists). Then she would be deemed a HERO, and some would call her a genius hero, an amazing epic figure that took down Paimon and Saved the World. The same people who once derided her as "mentally ill" would then thank her and hail her as a savior. Well, except the cultists of course, who would be very unhappy. What this film says about the mentally ill is that each mentally ill person is a possible hero, a possible genius, a possible savior, and the only difference between mental illness and genius is in the degree of success. Politically speaking, there's no way we should become a society of mentally ill people all attempting some impossible task, with a scant few ever being successful. Who's going to grow the food and be industrious? This political goal of having a healthy and balanced society however should not prevent us from acknowledging reality, it should not *force us* to demonize and falsify the mentally ill, and to "treat" them as a euphemism for destroying them.
Totally agree!! I think the title is to make you so sure that the whole thing is based on inherited mental illnessss and then leave you wondering what the hell just happened, I kept saying what? What?! So it was referencing that this family inherited literal demons.
love your channel and your interpretation/perception of the underlying reality...ie these movies are not just movies...especially to those who are "awake"..I am always looking for movies like the ones you have featured on your channel! great job! I love it!:)
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A lot of people have been misinterpreting the significance of Annie’s sleepwalking scenes. When Annie almost burns her children alive while sleepwalking she is doing it to protect Peter from his fate as a vessel for Paimon. Again when she is seemingly trying to pull Peters head off that is her subconsciously trying to stop the ritual from coming to fruition. If Peter died the ritual couldn’t be completed until another male was born into their families bloodline. Some subconscious form of maternal instincts were influencing Annie. It’s a shame she wasn’t successful.
DirtyDinner24 she didn't actually try to pull his head off. The arms came out the wall in Peter's dream. He was just so traumatized at that point he couldn't tell dream from reality.
@@cherisnelson2148 no, that was the mom
@@timothym3777 rewatch the scene
Your interpretation is tenuous.
And it's a red herring too, to fool us into thinking maybe mom went crazy and did start killing her fam
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I saw a director interview after the movie showing and he said that the dollhouse opening scene was used to show that a omnipotent force or a greater presence is the one in control of the family the whole time and this is the way to show that they were never really in control of their own lives.
juan mondragon Super late but to build on this, the first time in the classroom the topic is tragedies and one of the students ends up saying the most tragic is if there’s no hope for the characters, and they are just pawns in a game. Which the family ultimately was.
Also it’s a shot of Peter in hit bed which shows it’s all about him in the end...it’s really his movie...
I got it at first second of viewing that! Not r/iamverysmart
I noticed the same thing in relation to the dollhouse. I thought it was brilliant.
Yes! I rly hope he gets his other 20-50 screenplays into movies that he directs. I think hes one of the best screen writers/ directors in our time. I know this is his first full length feature but god damnit, it was good lol
I haven’t heard anyone talk about that bone chilling moment right at the end of the movie after Peter jumps out of the window and there’s complete silence but all you can hear is the sawing and then the head falling to the floor. That moment gave me chills
Jessica Henri yoooooo I was near hyperventilating at that point 😩
I wasnt even breathing....
I legit considered leaving, I was so unnerved and anxious through the movie. The sound in this movie was everything. Similar to the music in the Shining.
There are so many parts of the movie (like when Annie discovers Charlie in the car while the camera is on peter) where the audio is the real scare. So freaky!
you mean *GRAVE* me chill
That shot of Charlies head covered in ants will forever haunt me.
Manu YT I threw up in my mouth 😂
That shit was hilarious
The whole sequence of the accident, to Peter slowly going home and crawling into bed, to hearing the parents' cries of anguish, to the shot of Charlie's head, to the scene of Annie breaking down in her bedroom while Peter listens from the hall, is one of the most haunting and emotionally taxing things I've ever seen in a film
The look on her face with her mangled mouth gaping open.
That was when I realized that I wasn’t watching just any movie
I just saw the movie for the second time today, and I noticed something. Things must not have been moving along fast enough for Paimon. Here's why. There is a scene where the mother is painting one of her miniatures and she reaches for an orange bottle of paint, but an uncapped bottle of teal paint gets knocked over... that is farther away. We, the audience, don't notice because the director doesn't want you to so he angles the camera to make look as if the mother has knocked it over. But she actually hadn't. The bottle is too far away to have been knocked over by the mother, and she doesn't notice it herself either.
The paint spills onto the scrap of paper that Joanie wrote her number on for the mother. In the next scene the mother goes over to Joanie's house where she notices the door mat. I think Paiman tipped over that bottle of paint to initiate contact with Joanie, because he was getting frustrated things weren't moving fast enough. He wanted a male body dammit!!
I’ve noticed that the blue bottle was farther away and that there was no way she could have knocked it over herself, I’m glad you gave an explanation! I was the only one in my group who thought that was weird!
@@arikawalton9922 you're not weird at all, lol. I caught it when I watched the movie for the second time. I was looking for anything I possibly missed (like when the mother was in the corner of the room above her son!!). Great movie😁
Trisha Collymore it’s definitely a movie you need to watch more than once to get it’s full effect.
To me it was actually pretty obvious the first time I saw it.
Anna Łuniewska good for you. 🤗
That corner of the ceiling scene was incredible
Yoda the dancer very creepy
@@ericlucas1 Am not sleeping tonight.
I couldnt sleep because of that, it scared the shit out of me when I saw it, and when those naked people standing behind peter in the attic was creepy also
It reminded me of Spider-Man (2002) when peter is hiding on the ceiling
No it wasn't. It was ridiculous
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I definitely think the demon was originally born into Charlie's body. At the end of the film, when Paimon (now in Peter's body) is crowned in the treehouse, Joan not only addresses Paimon, the demon, as "Charlie" and explains to him who he really is, but she specifically says "we've corrected your first female body". The word "corrected" here indicates that the demon was never really intended to occupy a female according to the cult's plans. She also says "body", singular, not "bodies", plural, as well as describing this body as Paimon's "first". In addition, the film puts a lot of emphasis on the fact that Annie's first pregnancy (with Peter) was not a healthy one, as she constantly tried to miscarry by "doing everything they told me I'm supposed to" while pregnant, since at the time, she was "scared", likely because she instinctively knew about her mother's eventual plan for the baby (this is also evidenced in Annie's sleepwalking/unconscious attempts to kill her children). Because of this, I think that the grandmother's plan was for the demon to possess her daughter's child in utero (remember, she convinced Annie to go through with the pregnancy, and the book Annie finds says that Paimon initially possesses the most "vulnerable" host available, which an unborn baby would obviously be), but because of the risks that Annie's actions posed to the (male) fetus, Paimon was either unable or unwilling to possess it. Because of this turn of events, the grandmother and the cult were forced to wait for Annie's next, more healthy pregnancy (with Charlie) to give the demon a vessel, and that vessel, unfortunately for the cult, ended up being female, making the later transfer of the demon into Peter's body necessary. Charlie even says that her grandmother wished she were a boy. The book Annie finds in her mother's things specifically says that Paimon requires a male vessel, so I don't see why the grandmother and the cult would purposely introduce him into any female vessel, let alone three, before introducing him into the male one that he required. That being said, I do think all of the (three generations' worth of) beheadings of Peter's (female) family members, not just Charlie's, were somehow a necessary part of the ritual of transferring the demon into his body.
Brit B. Paimon was mistakenly put into the female body. I think the film is called hereditary because paimon was only hereditary on the female side of the family.
DesNez By the female side of the family, do you mean Annie's side of the family (as opposed to her husband's), or do you mean just the female members of Annie's family?
This Whole video is spoilers.
Giovanni B I'm aware of that, thanks. I was just being courteous/trying to avoid getting stormed with replies by assholes telling me I ruined the film for them because they saw my comment and I didn't warn them that details of the film would be discussed. The video does the same, and I'm guessing for the same reasons, because, despite its title, there will always be people who can't figure these things out on their own.
People like to get butt-hurt for sake of being butt-hurt. I just laugh at the trolls.
My father was burned alive? Meh.
My mom is possesed?! It's fine...
NAKED FAT PEOPLE IN MY HOUSE?! JUMPS OUT OF THE WINDOW!
Gnomon theGnomelover 😂
He reacted the same way he did when he saw his sister die decapitated. The lack of reaction was shock and denial. When he saw the naked own people was when he knew he was in real danger - they were in fact the ones responsible for all that mess.
D level: *_O V E R L O A D_*
Hilarious.... I found the movie hilarious, is that bad?
@@rosemarietg377 me too. We need help
The clicking/clucking throughout has me shook
Danielle Johnson This morning, I was studying at my school, cause I have summer classes. And I swear to god, while I was studying, I heard that noise twice.
Gabriel Arredondo yeah I heard it in my car on my way home ... but I’m sure it was just in the music I was listening too ..right..?😅
Danielle Johnson don’t be scared, it’s just a movie. You’re in control of your own imagination
It's okay, just imagine turning around and seeing Ugandan knuckles saying "do you know the wae?"
Gabriel Arredondo cuh you tweaking 😂😂
Man, I don’t think this movie will be fully appreciated until years from now. Now I’m not comparing Ari Aster to Kubrick but, this movie is on that level in my opinion. Such a great, smart “horror movie”. The acting is impeccable. The sequence after the party will stick with me forever. One of my favorite sequences in a movie, ever. Can’t wait to see it again. My local cinema is not playing it. I might just wait for blu Ray for my second viewing. Whichever way I see it, I can’t wait.
icebergthegamer You can't wait to see it again? I can't UNSEE it. The ants, man. (shivers)
You can tell he used some shots from A Clockwork Orange when the mother runs to the fireplace
I'm going again next week. Without popcorn because I was mildly queasy the first time (fear response).
apparently there was a bunch cut from the original film - I'd like to buy the blue ray too just to see what was cut
sean hooper I hope the full directors cut is on it.
Can we talk about that crawling on the wall scene lol 😂 got me checkin my ceiling at night, and those grey naked people are creepy threw me off completely, but yoo this movie is so great
For real. Not to mention that the entire time its in full view in his room while he's looking at the Charlie spirit, but it's shot in a way that you're not *quite* sure there's even anything there...until it fucking scurries away. Jesus H. Christ.
Dianna Stroud FACTS lol 😂 i think this movie does an amazing job at really hitting you when you’re alone , like the fact that its not in your hands is the scariest part for me psychological AF
thought it was about the granny and i was right 😣
amy clarke she was totally messed up lol 😂
That got me. We know Peter was going to find his dad's mangled corpse and seeing possessed Annie walking on the wall behind him?
Urgh. Nope.
The naked cultists made me laugh out loud because it wasn't the shock of seeing his mother giving herself a new necktie...it was naked old people that sent him over the edge. (Also, love the female cultist who waves to Peter when she's buck naked.)
If I'm correct, the grief counseling group has other cult members in it
H. Haydon seriously? I did not see that
H. Haydon
Yes, they were "monitoring" Annie's movements
I believe the whole town was in on it
In the counseling group, the old guy with white hair and glasses on the audience's left is the same old guy in the attic.
@Met3lAngel it's worth a rewatch tbf, as unnerving as it is. It's one of those movies that rewards rewatching with new things you missed last time or things at the beginning that make more sense the second time, I.e the grandma's letter to Annie.
Just watched it tonight, Toni Collette is one hell of an actress.
She really is
As a mexican I can point too that thing about cults and religion. The scariest part of thinking and dissecting the movie afterwards was to realize that all the stuff the cult did was in fact based on how a lot of ultra-religous groups operate in real life and have an influence on whole families.
16CharlyV One religion's Saint is always another religion's demon.
True!
Exactly. The cult was basically like a Baptist church for a demon. Even the words they were using you’ll hear in a traditional church. And the way the grandmother basically commits Charlie’s life to the demon is the same way many Christians commit their children’s lives to god before they are even talking.
@@DatNiceDude Except not, since these sorts of people in the movie are clearly devoting their children to an evil force because they're evil and they're enslaved to it probably to a large degree. Christians (by and large) devote their children to God freely because they want them to be free FROM evil. In Christianity, God doesn't force parents or scare them with wicked imagery to devote their children, He gives them the choice to walk along a godly path. And the children ultimately have to decide for themselves if they want to continue living in a godly way as they mature, they're not coaxed into it by pernicious and evil means (though admittedly some parents are overbearing and do wrong in order to try and get their children to follow after them). But either way, a reasonable parent will want to impart what they think is best to their children, religious or not.
Jimmy Gray that’s really just your opinion. Religion is all opinion really. No one worships a god that can’t provide for them. Christian or not, devoting a child to an entity is weird. Just because you believe your god is a benevolent force doesn’t make it any less strange.
The "theory" of Charlie being possessed from birth has actually been confirmed by Aster himself.
The director has been studying Aleister Crowley to make this movie.
“Colgate floss her head off” 🤣
Colgate also means "Go hang yourself" in Spanish.
For me, the worst part was the mom sawing off her head with piano/razor wire. Visuals don’t affect me too much, but noises get to me a lot deeper. Legitimately the scariest, most terrifying movie I’ve ever seen. True horror master piece!
"When you watch the movie a second time-"
NOPE. I'M NEVER SEEING THAT AGAIN.
Yes, once was a enough. It scared the shit out of me!!
Its a movie that needs to be watched a second time..and third and forth etc for that matter. There is so much hidden stuff that you cant catch on the first viewing. If you are debating it, watch the "hidden details" clip on the Heavy Spoilers YT channel. Between that video and the Reddit page, it gave me a much bigger appreciation for Hereditary (and for Midsommar)
LMAOOO I watched it 5x and each time it scared me more.
Right?! I can’t do it!
No matter how you interpret the film, Toni Collette’s portrayal of a grieving mother is absolutely devastating.
Very,very true.
Plot twist, ari aster is actually paimon and his making the movie as therapeutic way to get over how he entered the earth plane.
If Paimon already entered the world he might make mind-numbing content to decrease humans' ability to uncover his presence. Hmm, sort of like Logan Paul videos...
Haahahahahahahahahhhh
............................. ::tongue pop::
Man, I love this movie. Watched it twice in the theater, and actually enjoyed it more the second time, knowing what was going on. A lot like Neon Demon in that respect. I love movies that have that 2 for 1 experience.
Neon demon was soo bad. Started strong and just broke down towards the end. This on the other hand was pure genius
@@saigalrahoul Neon Demon is incredible, but it's an art film so even people who understand the movie might not like it. @Robert Jones, I had the same experience with both of these movies though. Love them both, and I don't even like horror movies
Neon demon was bad AF only the visuals were good but the tone and acting was garbage for me
I'm glad you liked it, let me start off by saying. I understand it's all subjective. But for me, while I will absolutely defend the film from a technical standpoint, it really fell flat for me. The direction was inspired, the cinematography was absolutely stunning, the performances (particularly form Toni Collette and Alex Wolff) were outstanding. But where the first two acts built up everything exceedingly well, the third act fell *so* flat for me.
Everything up to the third act felt like it was more than what it was. The underlying themes and metaphors were clear, but not heavy-handed, it did its job well. But in the third act, the reveal of what was going on, it all felt so cliche, so basic. The ending felt like I was watching the middle of any number of movies I've seen before, if that makes sense.
I don't know. Like I said, I'm glad most people liked it. I make my living in the horror genre, so any horror that does commercially and critically well, I'm appreciative of, and I fully support it. I think it's awesome that it's got people talking about it! I will absolutely be there opening night for Ari Aster's next effort, because I think hereditary was as strong a debut feature for a filmmaker as I've ever seen. But for me, it just wasn't nearly as scary as it was purported to be.
Again though, I'm glad you liked it!
I couldn't agree more! I loved this film, I can't wait to watch it again. Movies like that are rare, and I completely agree about the 'Neon Demon' , that film is sooooooo insanely disturbing in a awesome way, it just takes some work to see what's going on and it's not for everyone. Some people prefer to be spoon fed a story which that's ok too I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I just really love film, as an artist medium , as a way to tell a story or many stories with, as an experience. I prefer to see a movie that might require a second viewing, because that's what makes film interesting. It stays with you, haunts you almost and those are the films that I consider masterpieces.
Am I the only one who sees the similarities between this film and The Witch? I mean besides the obvious (they're both horror movies from first time director's, produced by A24), they both center on a family who just suffered a tragedy (the baby in The Witch and the grandma in this film), both have the family slowly fall apart because of said tragedy, the family members die in the same order (the teenager, the father, the mother), and the only surviving member is the eldest child, who leaves to join the group responsible for the events of the film. When we got out of the screening for this film, my friend and I joked about it maybe being a secret sequel to The Witch, and that the demon from this movie was Black Philip trying to get a human host.
Update after receiving comments from other place where I brought this up:
I should clarify. I'm not saying that this film was a rip off of The Witch, just that they have very similar plots. I do believe that there are enough things that Hereditary does differently to where I feel like I didn't just watch the same movie. I mean, Baby Driver has the same exact plot as Drive, but those films are otherwise VERY different.
Spencer Malgam deep
It also has a bit of It Comes at Night in it where a family (or a household) slowly goes insane as they turn on each other
I mean, yeah; but that's more just a similar premise that is in no way unique to those three. There are films like The Shining, The Babadook, Oculus; "Family goes crazy and turns on each other" might as well be a sub-genre in horror. This film and The Witch had almost the same exact basic plot.
Spencer Malgam I consider it a spiritual sequel, not really connected at all but could watch them back to back and feel a subtle connection
Maybe. It can see the connection.
anybody else love how he still acts like the LME channel is run by his ''twin''.
what do you mean acts? It is.
I did heat him say "I Explain it to you" then he says "He's a good guy" so yeah
People actually think that’s his twin so he just roll with it
I don't blame him I say just go with it as long as it last
Im having a fucking mental breakdown over this its the super carlin brothers all over again is it just him or does he have a twin
I feel like this movie is good, but not for the casual movie goer
@Met3lAngel I love horror movies. I dont need jumpscares to get me scared. This movie was not scary. Period. It had its tense moments but overall it wasn't scary
I was a casual horror movie goer- I nearly walked out at the head scene. I left absolutely horrified but I am so glad I stuck with it. I’m in awe by hereditary. Amazing film- definitely makes most other horrors tame
@@crashb133 It was. Your inability to accept that others are afraid of different things is not relevant
@@kamisartor5998 I was speaking for myself? You're inability to see that i speak for myself is not my problem
@@crashb133 Whoa! Gotta handle all that edginess, you cutting my browser apart!
My favorite element to that opening shot into the miniature house is how at first on the left it looks like a dark figure is looming over Peter as he sleeps. Then as the camera gets closer you can see it's not a figure looming over him but the imagery has done its job.
flibber123 yes!!! This is exactly why later on when Annie is on the ceiling above peter, and it holds for ages, I spent ages trying to work out if I was going crazy or if it actually was a person
@@SaraStar7373 yeah it was those long, tense, drawn out shots that gave the true horror to this film! Not some quick jump scares (although there's that one when Toni runs after Peter and up the stairs)
Grandma was never possessed by paimon. She was the conjurer who brought about paimon in Charlie. we can figure this out by the picture of grandma being showered with gold coins and the drawing from the book with "Riches to the conjurer" as it's caption.
Also the art plays a big role in the whole story arc, as paimon is known as having the knowledge of all arts and secret things.
Despacito 2... *shudders*
Decapitato
"You've got Joanne going to the Joanne's fabric place" I don't know why I just spent the past 5 minutes laughing at that
Cuz it's funny. I laughed too cuz I'm on my way to Joanne's fabrics. 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome analysis. I was wondering if anyone would mention the peanut m&ms. Also worth noting Charlie's little sheepskin jacket she had on in bed. Almost like a hint at being offered up for the slaughter. Additionally, it seems as though it is inferred that the grandmother feeding Charlie may have had something to do with the demon being in her. Or at least aiding in the receptive state for Charlie. Like tenderizing the meat, so to speak. Well the tea that was given to Annie by Joanie had a little black something that she wiped from her mouth. If I were to wager a guess I would think that whatever she ingested in the tea (perhaps a bit of grandma's head) aided in making her receptive to whatever spirit needed to inhabit her to carry out the ritual. Just a thought.
I agree that it makes some sense for the m&ms to be peanut, but how do we know they are? Couldn't they be regular m&ms? After all, Charlie is shown eating a non-peanut chocolate candy bar at the funeral - she just really likes chocolate, which comes up later at the party when she can't resist chocolate cake, even though it should be fairly obvious even to Charlie who is distressed and doesn't want to be at the party that the cake has nuts in it.
Brian Koontz they’re bigger than regular m&ms and it looked like it was definitely m&ms. Could have been some other candy, idek, I think it’s just like a sneaked in detail that she is and isn’t allergic at different times, because the demon already at least .. partially occupies her body. Her “allergy” is sort of opportunistic for the cult to orchestrate their plans.
I'd imagine they weren't peanut M&M's, but in the cake scene, the nuts were clearly visible that Charlie had to know what she was doing. From the Hershey bar at the funeral to the Dove bar at the pigeon beheading and then the M&M's, I think it was just to show that Charlie would eat anything chocolate. I've heard theories that suggest she never had an allergy, but to me thats silly considering the parents asked her in the beginning at the funeral if the chocolate had nuts in it. First time I've heard about that sheepskin robe. Little stuff like that is why this movie is awesome. Also with the herbs, in addition to Annie's tea, Charlie was fed from a young age by her grandmother (that would've likely been Peter had Annie allowed her mother near him) and remember that she wanted Charlie to be a boy. The herbs were also in the weed that Peter smoked when he had that reaction to it.
I also think that she drank parts of her mother's body..
Ooooo I forgot about the tea! I have to rewatch but I’m too freaked out lol!
Has anyone else noticed in this film that the color blue is RAMPANT when Paimon or his influence is around? From the blue bird hitting the window to her grandmother's blue casket, to the blue paint getting spilled, it's there. They get explicit when Paimon manifests with that blue light, but I'm in awe that even in the parking lot of that craft store the guy in the background walking with a woman is wearing that a blue shirt.
Samuel Tillman I thought the blue casket had a significance but I wasn’t sure for what! This clears it up- thank u!
Isn't it a green bottle of paint?
That's a blue bar pigeon....
Ahhh you just made the casket make sense for me
This movie's plot was so tight and amazing! No contrived or arbitrary holes, and subverts every trope that's hinted
Facu AF my o lot question is why did the Dad catch on fire the second time She throws the book into the fire
SoundCzech I’m a little late responding, but ultimately it’s because the demon king Paimon is the one pulling the strings at the end. Annie thinks she has it figured out but Paimon, as mentioned, is known for mischief. And also since he wasn’t done with Annie, he decides to just ignite the father instead of her. It’s also because having Annie feel the guilt of killing her husband would break her down even more and put her at that intense vulnerable state that Paimon needs to take control.
The one thing people keep glazing over by literally never mentioning it is the scene when Charlie is walking barefoot toward some fire in the meadow near their home. Annie comes out and stops Charlie from continuing on but makes no mention of a fire, so I can't figure out if it was really there or if Charlie was imagining it.
Also? When Annie forces Peter and her husband to come downstairs to do the seance she is possessed by Charlie, right??? But Charlie never says much while alive and never seems afraid either, so the momentary possession of Annie by Charlie doesn't make any sense to me. What am I missing? I love how the rest of the movie really seems to be purposeful but those 2 scenes don't.
Penny Yeah I can see how it wouldn’t make sense, especially when Annie is possessed by Charlie. As for the barefoot scene I also haven’t really seen a good explanation so I can only assume that it was some weird cult stuff that Annie just didn’t take notice of. But idk your guess is as good as mine
It was better before it got stupidly OTT paranormal. The chocolate cake contained nuts btw.
Something I feel no one talks about is the specific expression toni Collete managed to pull off when she’s sawing her head off. Like the movement is rigid and disturbing, but the actually expression she has was branded in my eyes for months. I’ve never seen anyone in any movie, or real life, make an expression like that.
I love that you noticed a sort of parallel with What Remains of Edith Finch. It kinda reminded me of that too. Highly underrated game.
I think when I see hundreds of people calling a game underrated, that it isn’t underrated lol.
slimkt nice
Love that game
That’s crazy people thought that, I thought about that from the start of the movie. The name Finch even comes up in the opening credits. I wish that would have been the story they went with, because the actual movie was terrifying
Movies can be therapy bro. I’ve been to Iraq an Afghanistan as an infantryman and operator. PTSD is a real thing and movies can help. Comics too. Love the channel and LME. Much love Hermanito
Thanks for your service bro
I find that A24 horror films seem to always get at least two tickets out of me.
More like 6 🤣
I think something I wanted to add to the discussion is Alex Wolff's performance. People hated the crying but there was a purpose to cry like a child. He also called his mother "mommy". I think he wanted to return to being a child perhaps? What do you guys think?
He was traumatized as a child bc his mother tried to kill him in his sleep, and then those feelings resurfaced so it makes perfect sense for him to cry like a baby.
completely agree. Did people not get that?
I think it's also shown in the book within the film is that Paimon has an aspect of creativity which Annie and Charlie express. These are significant parts of who these characters are so this adds to the film's mythology as well.
Annie should of just called the Ghostbusters John Constantine and Christabella from Silent Hill for some serious Demon body purging lol
John Constantine would of just gave Paimon a beer
Dawg the best thing about your channel is the music choices. "What is Santa bringing?"
You actually put despacito 2. GOAT.
Great video, I didn't even notice all the reincorporation of the symbol, I'll definitely have to check it out again. I was actually thinking the light they keep seeing might be from an MRI machine. They usually have that green scanning light and I thought that fit perfectly with the themes of mental illness. It's great to have a horror movie that deals with some actual real world horror in a way.
The father begins writing an email to a psychiatrist saying that he thinks Annie is going through a breakdown, but the grave desecration email stops him. Maybe he did send that email, and Annie is losing her mind when in reality she’s been sent to get an mri and be institutionalised.
the light was paimon
"these demons want one thing and its disgusting" lmaooooo
I noticed a possible rule changing mistake that the filmmakers were able to catch:
When Annie is leaving Joan’s house after the seance she hands her the paper with the weird language to do her own seance at home. Joan says “make sure the whole family is in the house”. If you look closely at the actress she actually mouths the words “the room”.
By that time her grandmothers body was in the attic. If they left the audio for her saying “the room” it would’ve changed the rules and ultimately been a plot hole for the ending.
An inaccuracy is that Paimon had actually been in Charlie ever since she was born and had not been passed on after the grandmother's death. It's hinted that in the movie and the director also revealed it in an interview
Did y'all not notice the clicking sounds during the transitions
thank god for your comment bc i thought i was becoming possessed
I thought it was just me, thank goodness
Love that you already had the new music on there - and i LOVE that you chose the song '4th dimensino' which seems kinda spectral AND its off the album Kids See Ghosts which is another theme - good shit! (and its a flip of the song 'what is santa bringing' which has ties to religion etc)
I'm hearing some people describe this movie as a black comedy. I've listened to the director talk about the humor in The Shining, but not specifically address if there was intentional humor in this film. A buddy of mine in Mobile, Al (unsophisticated) went to see the movie on opening night. He told that, although the movie was unnerving and definitely was scary, he burst out laughing at the car beheading scene. Then he told me, his laughing set off a chain reaction in the audience, and for the rest of the movie the audience was laughing at "inappropriate" times. Strange, I know. It's got me wondering, have other theaters had similar reactions. I also saw it on opening night, and my mostly full theater was quiet the entire time. But, I guess, in a vacuum there are some funny looking images. Like the headless corpse floating up into the treehouse at the end, the beheading I mentioned. But anyway, would love to hear some thoughts on this.
I saw this in Portland, yep people were laughing. Everyone chuckled at the scene where the mom was spilling her secrets to Peter, one guy couldn't stop laughing at the naked people, and I don't blame him.
The beheading scene was not funny in anyway. Many of the seance scenes were though and that’s probably because they were goofy on purpose
I was a little baked, but I didn't find the movie funny at all. My biggest complaint was Alex Wolff's acting.
I laughed at a few scenes.
I started laughing and couldn't stop during the scene when the mother told her son she didn't want to have him - not my proudest moment but it also created a chain reaction of other people laughing
I think Hereditary and The Witch are connected. There are similarities
I thought the beginning of the movie, where the camera pans into the miniature house and the family, that made the whole senario to be kinda unreal, surreal, or divorced from reality. Like a bad divorce where they split up the kids and the parents don't even talk to each other. It's great also because at the end of the movie the camera does the same in reverse thus giving the viewers an out to the movie, because at that point it was getting pretty uncanny.
Like the mother floating out of the house into the tree house. I'm not joking I laughed at that.
The floating mother was absolutely chilling....
sean hooper after the son falls out of the attic and the newly decapitated body of his mother floats across into the tree house? Yeah, I laughed at that.
i was horrified at that. it's not something you see every day. a floating, headless body. and it was the apprehension too, not knowing what was in that tree house
@bambiabraham precisely - and yeah, the tree house was so ominous too
It was a representation of the fact that there’s a greater force controlling the family.
What Remains Of Edith Finch! I adore that game! I'm so glad you mentioned it, because the model house by the stairs in Hereditary reminded me a lot of it, and I just thought it was a weird coincidence!
One thing that really confused me about the ending, is how it seemed like it was just Charlie in Peter's body, not Paimon. Unless Paimon just acts like a confused child too, in which case, its kinda weird that hes so important or whatever. I couldn't figure out if the movie was trying to say that the cult screwed up and only successfully transferred Charlie, or if they actually succeeded and Paimon has to be told who he is and all that.
Azorian36 that’s because paimon is charlie
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So Paimon is just a clueless child? I thought he's supposed to be this ultra knowledgeable king of hell?
i heard from another source that the cult was summoning paimon without his/her/its permission
This is exactly what I got out of the ending. The cult may be good at witchcrafty spells etc., but they are just as delusional as any other cult that worship some kind of specific deity, and Paimon doesn't exist. All they managed to do was transfer Charlie's spirit into Peter's body (after killing her family), dooming her to a second life of being worshiped by crazy people (which is why you can see the trauma/ insanity settling into her/ Peter's face as the cultist bombards her with all that BS about Paimon). But hey, she was worried about who was going to take care of her right? At least that's covered now.
@@discoskull I feel like paimon was definitely part of the picture because we see Charlie react to the weird light reflection while she's in her room making creepy toys.
I'm so mad you reminded me of 'something strange about the johnsons' movie.
A. Hux It's not a horror movie, but it is pretty effed up.
"the babadook reminds you never to have a child"
Absolute legend 😂😂
Someone on another video in the comment section pointed out that the scene where Alex Wolff raises his hand and slams his face against the desk was more than likely caused by Toni Collette’s dead brother. He was probably trying to kill him so that he wouldn’t be possessed. (Earlier in the movie there’s a conversation where they talk about the brother’s “schizophrenia” and how he killed himself (probably to save himself from being possessed).
Tyler Tompkins But the way he was holding up his hand in that weird salute was in one of the images of Paimon. So that kind of supports the idea that he was getting impatient waiting for his body.
I’m late but I had assumed that it was the brother because I was under the impression he had hung himself after being tormented/used as a sacrifice by paimon. like his hand being the rope and his face contorted as he died.
that makes sense, since paimon couldnt have been the one doing it to him cause otherwise he would have been able to enter his body and posess it all along. explains too why his face looks like hes choking
Oh, this is interesting. When I saw his hand go up like that, I immediately thought of the stereotypies that can happen in schizophrenia. Then I saw his face and was like, uh NOPE but couldn't figure out what was happening. Interesting that I halfway linked it to his uncle but didn't quite get all the way there.
LMAOOO "colgate glossed her head off"
my theory is that none of the movie actually happened, well, maybe a couple scenes. but, i think that most of the film's situations is annie creating situations through her miniatures (kind of like a director), and that light is from her magnifying glasses (glad you saw that too). so this whole plot that keeps spinning more and more out of control is just annie's way of reconciling how she never had a true connection with her mother and how she is dealing with that grief.
Yeah, I like your theory. That would explain why the very last scene is the camera pushing away like if she just finished her miniatures.
I like that! Within the movies canon she uses miniatures to portray her most traumatic moments (funeral home, street with pole, etc) although I don’t know what the kindergarten means, so it totally makes sense that if these events weren’t real, that she is expelling all her negative emotions into miniatures.
Haven’t heard this theory before, so good job!
Alex Beamer but the director confirmed its all real
edchanful sure, but that doesn't mean too much. A lot of directors and fans have very different theories (a la blade runner)
Not to mention a director will almost never tell their audience what the piece was actually about, at least not in any great detail.
How do you not have more subscribers
i see you and that “Reborn - Kids See Ghosts” reference in the background!
Is that a song? Movie reference?
It is 4th Dimension actually
Dais E. Ghosts must of had the wrong tracklist lmao
reminds me of growing up. facing the fact you have to create your own world in order to survive...you know?
Eh
Pretty normal delusional for victims of mental health. Be kind to your elders and always respect yourself. God perseveres through it all only if you let him.
Thank you for making this video. I watched several analysis videos, and yours was the most detailed, insightful, and personal. You didn't just summarize or re-tell the movie, you looked at it through a unique critical but positive lens. I enjoyed!
I have watched this movie so many times. I absolutely adore this film.
Edit : please do this with Midsommar !
I feel that Charlie was a cell for Paimon until they can get Peter
naw. really? it's like you saw the movie...
Woah, woah, woah... I’ve been watching “Let me explain “ for months and I’m just now discovering that he’s super cute? Wtf? I needed a warning for that lol
How could the cult possibly orchestrate Charlie's beheading with the telephone pole? It had the symbol on it, but they couldn't have made Charlie stick her head out the car window at that exact time.
They placed a dead animal to make the care swerve towards the pole. Given that she was having an allergic attack it may have been theorized that she would have her head out of the window gasping for breath long before they got to the pole.
@@redblackandgreen1117 imagine if she stuck her head out the other window instead lol
@@daphneangeladabi8171 lol
It's a demon cult man cmon
@@daphneangeladabi8171then the cult would do something else? And the movie will took different course? O
Could you look at 'The Hollow'? I think the ending is genius but also really obvious. It's a animation series on Netflix
Nah... They already mention it like 3-4 episodes from the finale and it because it was so obvious, it only made the ending more annoying as we all hoped for something more interesting.
WhosMans? As I said it was very obvious *but* in general it would have been a good idea if they made it less obvious
I actually think the Charlie who Joanie was referring to is Peter’s uncle. His reaction to seeing everyone was way different than Charlie’s (his sister) reaction when she possessed her mother. That was the most eerie part about Peter coming back after you thought he died, because we kind of forget that his uncle was chosen by Ellen to be the main vessel before her granddaughter was born.
I also thought it was very interesting that Annie’s husband never mentioned to her that he got an e-mail that Ellen’s grace was dug up. And then when she thought she was the one to be burned to death to save Peter, her husband was. I think that was his punishment for calling her crazy and acting as though he has no idea what she’s talking about. I personally think he knew way more about the cult than he made it seem.
I was Brought to tears when she found her daughter in the car and them screams of her grief. it really is a traumatic experience watching this movie..
everybody is talking about the story and themes ...but so few people are talking about the cinematography ....it`s so brilliant ....that part where possessed annie is sitting in the corner of the ceiling while her son is waking up gave me hope for horror genre ,i mean a shitty director would of just pop a jump scare there but here it`s subtle ,i almost missed her just chilling there
I cried so much through my first viewing. I had so many spoilers but it still got me, Alex and Toni were the best part of the film. Milly being a close 2nd/3rd
Hei! I just wanted to say I really appreciate your videos. I think you have a really balanced approach when taking on any subject, leaning more towards the positive, understanding, empathetic side which I especially love about you. I wish we could hang out in real life and watch a film to then discuss it since you seem like such a wonderful person and such a cool guy :). You're doing a great job and I hope you have an amazing life! Lots of love from Romania,
Maria
“Colgate floss her head off” 😂 that moment terrified me
One Digimon reference gets you a like on your video, sir.
Makes me wonder how many more demons there are in Digimon/Pokemon.
@@giovannibermudezjr Digimon has many Digimon based on demons, Pokemon doesn't have that much.
Giovanni B digimon has too many demons for a kids show. Daemon, Beelzemon (beelzebub), Lilithmon (Lilith), Devimon, Leviamon (leviathan), etc.
Dude, great review. 🙏🏼🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Joan wasnt in first session with Annie spilling everything out she claimed to remember her from! Theres an empty seat...
Dont think it was just sleep walking the mother had, but some kind of personality order like her brother and mother - hence hereditary. She didn't seem like a reliable protagonist, so wouldnt be surpirsed if some of her whack behaviour and other strange occurences in the film wasnt due to sleep walking but from the illness. Maybe she was unwarefully working with the cult
Noone's perfect, especially when attempting to oppose a demon. I mean, it's not like people train for that. Steve, the least mentally ill person in the movie, is the most useless because he doesn't believe in demons, even after receiving direct evidence of supernatural events during the family seance scene.
Annie, the most mentally ill living person in the movie, is mentally ill precisely because she recognizes the reality of the demon, and recognizes that her family (barring the clueless Steve) is being corrupted by the demon. What she would like to do is to purify her children, to remove the demonic influence from their lives. But she has no background in that, no knowledge of it, and no ability to do so. She merely has good intentions and a lot of effort, yet even so that takes her a long way and delays Paimon's ability to enter the world, only failing when she witnesses the demon burn her husband to death just a few feet in front of her, and her will is damaged, allowing Paimon to possess her.
It's quite unfair to criticize Annie for increasing Paimon's presence in their home through the seance. It would have been quite rude to have gone through her mother's things and uncovered crucial aspects of reality prior to when she did so. Bear in mind that she was attempting to *improve* relations with her mother until her mother's death.
Also, Paimon already had *some* presence in the home prior to the seance, as he was the likely force that wrote the demonic names on the walls.
I think it was an act of God.
A Quiet Place, Get Out, and Us are more of those family centered horror flicks trending recently. Midsommar by Ari Asher too has the same dynamic. Great video though fam, you earned my sub.
Love your videos, including this one. Just one note. A nut allergy doesn't always include peanuts. My husband is allergic to tree nuts (including coconuts), but not peanuts (legumes). So almonds could give a horrible reaction but he can eat peanut m&ms all day.
I guess it stood out since the parents made a big deal about the chocolate at the funeral
The AtZ Show Thanks for replying! And that makes sense.
Also, thanks for bringing up the other Ari Aster films. Managed to find them and just wow! Now that he's working on full length films and with how well he did with Heredity, I can't wait to see what else he comes up with!
I LOVE how you mentioned Edith Finch. I kept being reminded of that game while watching the movie, such a good story.
Hereditary is fucking amazing. I want to learn so much more about this and catch all the little things i missed.
I'm loving your take. You're talking but I'm listening. Fantastic analysis.
I barely recovered from the Hide-and-go Claps from the 1st Conjuring movie and now I gotta deal with these cluckings? 😫😫😂
OMG THAT BLOOD CURDLING MOTHERS SCREAM WHEN CHARLIES BODY IS DISCOVERED, It STILL PULSATES RIGHT THRU ME!
This is one of the best Horror Film i have seen in recent years. Its incredible. What a FILM.
Hereditary would have been a great movie even without the paranormal elements. That's why we love it so much.
And also because how subtle and impactful it is all at once.
not going to lie I didn't watch this movie and I'm never going to but I loved hearing you talk about it
I can't believe it took me this long to find this other channel of yours
My family is just as bad, if not worse. I was assaulted in disgusting sick ways since I was 6 until I was 14 by my Uncle and his friends weekly and used like a toy, so you don't know what bad is.
The single most terrifying, unnerving, disturbing, and unsettling film l have ever seen. But in addition to all that, l find in it a very horrifying metaphor for the narcissistic, controlling, manipulative, selfish, inconsiderate, interfering, domineering, overbearing, meddling, conniving, undermining, and pathologically obsessive mother-in-law. It hits home for me viscerally, because l survived it, although my marriage unfortunately didn't.
I'm gonna hide in the comments just in case...
Eli N.S lol
CLUCK CLUCK... Found you CLUCK ;-)
this movie made me think back to the time when my mom were getting a divorce. that dinner scene was exactly like my family dinners months before the divorce itself. it goes deeper than that, when the mother said that she wanted to abort the son... let’s just say i have a reason to connect to that. just watched the movie tonight and i’m currently laying in bed, feeling sad thinking about my past or the little i remember from it since i’ve drowned those memories with countless horror movies.. this is the first movie to hit me this hard.
I think since the Annie's brother died it set off the ritual again they had to kill 3 females to get to Peter. Grandma, Charlie, Annie and THEN Peter.
Not exactly. The grandma wanted Charlie to be a boy. If she were a boy, things would have gone differently
This whole movie, especially Charlie's decapitated head w/the ants to mom sawing off her own head with a fuckin garrote (dental floss?) stuck w/me & haunt my waking moments. Honestly, this movie is so layered, so deeply disturbing & unsettling but also so ingenious & filled with so many interpretations & possibilities that I feel like it's a modern day classic & not just a horror genre classic either (although it is def horrifying). A lot of ppl won't, cant, whatever the case may be - they just miss the viewpoints, they can't even come close to appreciating how amazing this fucking movie is; probably due to the imagery & how disturbing it is. It literally gets under ur skin & Ari Aster has proved himself to be the fucking king of "Unsettling" genre redefining horror. The man is a genius; one of a rare breed of filmmakers who can make a film so richly layered that u could watch it 100 times & see something new or form a new perspective every time.
Talk about disturbing scenes, I'm now trying to get my 2nd viewing of MIDSOMMER in so I can watch it from a new perspective because the first viewing was all just basically me sitting in stunned, freaked the fuck out amazement. Ari Aster is a gift to filmmaking and thank God, so young that we'll definitely get a lot more from him, and it can only get better cus the guy is already at the top of his fucking game!
Audiences don't "enjoy" Ari's films; they aren't meant to be popcorn entertainment they're meant to be unsettling, upsetting, crawling up the walls, under your skin, think about it for months after you watch it - type films & your average movie-goer doesn't really want that but a good subsection of us viewers do absolutely want that experience.
Damn. Rambling.✌
i am 13 and was watching it with friends and got kicked out and snuck back in and it was worth it this movie was so terrifyingly amazing and orchestrated perfectly
That was the deepest explanation of Hereditary that I’ve ever heard. You really dove into it. You were on a whole other level
“Churches do this too”? Dude any and almost every organization that wants you to join does that... (I’m just saying) anyway, cool breakdown...I thought this movie was amazing...
Exactly!
Great video. I didn't fully understand about the heads getting cut off but that makes sense how it was to release the demon from the body so it could move to the next person, but I do think the blue shimmery light was supposed to be paimon when he's not in a body. Also, its like paimon demanded 3 heads as sacrifice like shown in the book and in the end that's what he gets.
Do Hereditary vs The Witch.
They are quite similar..but I preferred the Witch a lot more.
That ending scene where charlie takes peter's body and goes to the tree house and well, you know what i'm talking about, it's one of the most beautiful scenes i've ever seen aND i don't even like saying it because it's so dark and demonic.... the power of this film
great analysis of this movie. i think its important to mention that while Annie states doctors deemed the curses and rituals as mental disorders, that clearly wasn't the case here. i think the ending made it very obvious the causes were demons (just like your first point stated!).
the grandmother supposedly had DID (dissociative identity disorder-- aka: multiple personality disorder). this disorder is *wildly uncommon* , and psychologists aren't even sure if it's a legitimate diagnosis. her unstable personality and constant manipulation was probably due to her demonic possessions and religious activities; doctors may not have understood and diagnosed with the closest possible answer.
while schizophrenia IS hereditary (hey the movie title), i think that annie's brother and father were other cases of "freak accidents" at the mother's hands; however, it's possible that the trauma of growing up with the grandmother traumatized both annie and her brother so badly they both developed schizophrenia.
annie experiences: hallucinations, delusions, paranoia, and occasionally a diminished emotional expression-- textbook schizophrenia. but that's the point. i think ari wanted to put viewers in this uncertain place: is it really mental illness or something deeper??? i kept going back and forth, wondering if this was a character hallucinating or if it was really happening, more often than not, it was really happening. that's the key.
my point is, and what i hope most people get is, this film is not an accurate depiction of mental disorders. unlike a film like Split (which isn't ALL bad but... yikes), which makes a horror film out of a disorder, Hereditary felt very aware of the comments it was making. regardless, people with mental illnesses are not more likely to harm others or commit crimes- they are more likely a danger to themselves- and they are definitely not possessed by demons (which some cultures actually still believe.... again, yikes). SORRY FOR LONG POST :)
There's no such thing as a human being possessed by a demon in the real world because demons aren't real. That doesn't mean that mental illness in the real world is meaningless, which is what we commonly believe. As something meaningless, the mentally ill are deemed deficient, sick, and in need of help, or at least removed from society so that the "good people" don't have to interact with them.
Once they are removed from society, they are then "treated", by which is meant "cured", by which is meant an end to their mental illness. But this presupposes that the mental illness has no meaning, no value - it's like Cancer - the only treatment is to remove it.
With all due respect to the decades of treatment by "professionals", mental illness is a human choice, and it's not necessarily a bad choice, or at least the choice has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis and not assumed to be bad.
While Annie's choice to be "mentally ill" in the movie is ultimately good because demons are real, demons aren't the ONLY thing that can justify mental illness. Mental illness is the attempt to achieve the "impossible", something that transforms the personality of the mentally ill into one dominated by frustration, anxiety, and despair. That's precisely why there's a connection between "geniuses" and the "mentally ill" - both are trying to do something profound - the difference is that the geniuses have some success.
So let's say Annie was successful - let's say she learned more about the demon, how to oppose it more effectively, implemented that opposition, and successfully purified at least her family, if not the entire town (of cultists). Then she would be deemed a HERO, and some would call her a genius hero, an amazing epic figure that took down Paimon and Saved the World.
The same people who once derided her as "mentally ill" would then thank her and hail her as a savior. Well, except the cultists of course, who would be very unhappy.
What this film says about the mentally ill is that each mentally ill person is a possible hero, a possible genius, a possible savior, and the only difference between mental illness and genius is in the degree of success.
Politically speaking, there's no way we should become a society of mentally ill people all attempting some impossible task, with a scant few ever being successful. Who's going to grow the food and be industrious? This political goal of having a healthy and balanced society however should not prevent us from acknowledging reality, it should not *force us* to demonize and falsify the mentally ill, and to "treat" them as a euphemism for destroying them.
Totally agree!! I think the title is to make you so sure that the whole thing is based on inherited mental illnessss and then leave you wondering what the hell just happened, I kept saying what? What?!
So it was referencing that this family inherited literal demons.
love your channel and your interpretation/perception of the underlying reality...ie these movies are not just movies...especially to those who are "awake"..I am always looking for movies like the ones you have featured on your channel! great job! I love it!:)