The Failures of Frieren
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Everyone has been hyping up Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. But when compared to it's stellar source material, does it live up the the hype?
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Edit to say, please no spoilers for anything beyond episode 8.
I wanted this to be a cut content but there was basically nothing cut so it wasn’t possible. Instead I did it www.youtube.com/@overanalyzingavatar style and think it fits this show well as the Anime does make a lot of small changes.
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P.S. If you found something I missed, no you didn’t I just didn’t think it was worth mentioning. If I got something wrong, no I didn’t. Go reread the manga. :P
Why did you not wait till 10 episodes????
went by volume
@@SlothyCeddy Okay. Next video when?
@@jaideepshekhar4621 When the next 8 drop.
The lamp on the table..
It's because at the start of her deciphering, not much clatter. But midway, you will see she used a lot of books and it made clutter, even on floor. so there is no choice but to put it on top of books.
A simple way of showing progress in this animation. It's Genius. Kudos to the animators.
Cinema sins be like:
I haddn't heard of Cinema sins till this comment. Granted I don't watch movies either.
This guy actually reads the source material though
yeah, burns a hole in my pocket lol
This guy knows what he's talking about with frieren, though.
Personally while I didn’t mind the switch to her crying outside instead of in the cathedral my one real gripe with the anime is why they didn’t have that initial crying shot. That shot in the manga of her staring in shock as tears begin to roll down her face is in my opinion one of the best panels in the entire series and I hate that they didn’t show a proper version of that.
I agree. I didn't get that specific but yeah it was a great pannel
I find it interesting that the gossipers badmouthing her for not crying never deserved the privilege to see it.
Naaaa the anime managed this very well, first you take a close up of her getting surprised at church (something she is aware of), then we move to bury scene. IDK in how many funerals you people have been, but the watershed moment is when the people is getting cover with dirt, is when people starts throwing flowers and obejcts and when the tears came down. The moment you realize, you will never see that person again (at least physically), moments ago you still got the chance to see its face, before it was cover in dirt.
It was much more powerful and meaningful in the Anime.
@@damainmg I didn’t say the anime scene was bad. It was fine. My point is more that the scene in the church was such an iconic and meaningful panel that it was a shame that it just got completely cut.
Though I’d also argue that her crying in the church made far more sense for the story because Frieren’s reason for crying wasn’t the same as everyone else’s. She wasn’t crying simply because Himmel was dead and she won’t see him again. Her tears were caused by the bystander’s comments causing a realization in her. Up until then she wasn’t thinking much of it, Himmel was gone but that was to be expected and she’s seen countless people come and go over her long life. That’s why up until then she was stone faced as usual without so much as a sad look. But in that moment it’s not simply sorrow. In that initial panel of her crying her face looks blank showing that she started crying before she even realized it. It wasn’t a simple look of grief but a look of shock as she realizes that it does hurt that she does wish she got to know him better. When she says they only traveled together for ten years that is her talking to herself. She is trying to rationalize that this shouldn’t affect her like this because from her perspective she barely knew him. She doesn’t understand why she is crying just that she is because Himmel somehow meant more to her than she ever realized. Her grief isn’t simply that he’s dead it’s that she is only now realizing in that moment that he truly meant something to her. All of this stemmed from those comments in the church which is why she cried there. It makes more sense as such for her to be crying in the church rather than delaying the tears for half an hour to an hour for them to finish the ceremony, carry the body out, and start burying it far removed from that moment of realization.
@@CeliriaRose My point still tands, is more powerful in the buried scene that crying in the church, crying cause a bystander said you are emotionless, is less impactful than you being aware of. If people who buried their dear ones don't cry or show any emotion in the church (after all is more protocol than anything else), can't expect less from a millenial elf.
And the only difference is that in the manga, you only have a few panels to do that (the scene is so good with the tears and so), but all that happens at the the church, they got out from the church and that's all, they take separated ways, there is not buried scene. There is no grave where to cry for.
Ps: Even in the anime after the buried scene, she is holding the ring Himmel bought her.
the ducks really carried the anime can't imagine what it wouldv been without them
me neither, hopefully more appear
this is great, please keep it up. From your analysis you can actually tell how deep the animators and director went into each panel and try to improve or add even the smallest detail, while preserving the spirit and the overall story of the manga. Tells me that they have real deep love for the manga.
yeah they really did dp it justice
Hope you do another one but make sure to say "watch the whole video before you dislike," "this is my opinion" and "I've read the source material" is was honestly one of my favorite Frieren videos out of all the videos
def more on the way, just takes a while kek
Had me really confused if this was satire or not. Great video
Lmao, yeah I do like the show XD
Yeah, sounds so nitpicked like Himmel not being showned as tied up and in a guillotine is probably just the studio censoring the scene similar to how they didn't show Aura's head when she killed herself, I've been reading this manga 2 years before the anime even went out and I didn't even notice those changes, that's how insignificant those changes actually are to the story, it's not like they bastardized the source material or butchered their character, or maybe even added irrelevant fillers and some sht, I'm looking at you Twin star exorcist
Nitpicking was the goal, sort of like overanalyzing avatar. Couldn't point out what was missing cause it was already very faithful.
Never seen twin star though.
I'm glad this was satire because I was about to read you the riot act while crying through my tears (see that is also satire).
riot act?
@@SlothyCeddy Viciously telling somebody off with nothing left out - Urban Dictionary.
Honestly 'reading someone the riot act' is a very 'merican phrase, so you loose 50 points for not knowing it. You then get 50 points back because not knowing things is also very 'merican.
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT BAITED AGAIN
Great video
had to wait a whole anime episode for the punchline but it was worth
lol ty for watching
This is just Cinema sins. But better (not a high bar but still)
Please do not call geese ducks. Do not equate those vile honking freaks to my favorite fowl
I have reached my target audience at last
One is fowl while the other is foul
Real shame they didn't adapt the crying scene, probably the most iconic panel of the manga. Would've been more emotionally impactful
XD
I kinda of get why they moved it. It was passed the moment Himmel fades away as he is completely buried, then it hits her like a truck.
It also gives the impression that she is almost never emotional but at that pinpoint moment, her heart ached for the first time, that she had lost someone very important. Though her mind couldn't quite understand why.
@@johntan4997 I do agree that it's far better characterization, though it is also an example of something that could have been done in a better way and still stuck to the source timing.
For example we don't actually know when Himmel dies. Was it right after the star viewing? On the way back? Upon arriving in the city? Assuming it happened sometime before arriving, showing Frieren's non-reaction to it and culminating at the cathedral where she breaks down like in the manga I think would have sold it even better than how the anime did.
Some of those "ducks" were actually geese. +25 points.
i bet all these dislikes are from people who didnt watch the whole video lmao
c’est la vie
I love the implications of the typo from around 8:24 until Frieren gets deported from the US.
RAAAH
I think Fern only being slightly taller than Frieren makes sense and is a good change, you wouldn't say "you're finally taller than me about someone who is already a head taller.
I mean, their height is their height XD. If she's meant to be much taller than frieren then she should be imo. Also thanks for watching!
@@SlothyCeddy well height is generally very inconsistent in anime/manga and its not like Fern stopped growing at that point in the anime so
@@DutchDread It'll be a while until the next one, but I'll see if I can't point it out :P
Its realy nice to see how the anime adds to the manga and you can enjoy both. Great video btw!
i'm sharp, the detail is wild
The fully free bread in the Manga helps emphasize that it's a town effort to pay them.
Imagine stubbing your toe on the butt of the axe and then having the head fall on you... Much worse than stubbing your toe on the head
you missed the animation error where in the scene where fern fights her first monster she has her hair ornament on but in the manga she doesnt
The issue there is it's hard to tell exactly when that happened/which one is right, as we don't know when/how many monsters Fern has fought. Don't wanna spoil ep 9 but it's something interesting to think about that gets brought up.
The scrapwood on the beach getting burnt is likely because someone on the animation team pointed out that marine environment scrapwood is usually pretty much worthless for anything but burning.
they butchered the anime and served us the best cuts of meat for us to devour...
this guy gets it
The anime pot setup is more stable and easier to build out of scavanged sticks
Can't believe this guy called Rent a Girlfriend a masterpiece and not Frieren lol
I had to wake the people UP
He was kidding if you pay attention.
10:26 no you dummy, in the manga, the shopkeeper is only giving Fern the free bonus in the little bag she’s holding. Fern still needs to pay for the bread.
I dunno, kinda sus. That would also mean the anime gave her extra bread instead of the mystery bag. Still -1
Calm down there mate.
I knew this was cap described girlfriend girlfriend as a masterpiece
lmao yeah
I hope people understand this video is supposed to be a joke. He is not saying the anime is bad, he's just listing the differences between the anime and the manga for comedic purposes with arbitrary points. I think the ducks should be a dead giveaway.
masters in understanding
@@SlothyCeddy It was a great video. I think a lot of the dislikes comes from people who didn't reach the typo.
8:40 This makes sense, though. If she's only just now taller, she would be just barely taller. If the height difference was that drastic, it would've been for a while, which kind of invalidates Frieren's line.
Another person pointed this out too, will prolly talk ab it in my next vidya
50 points for American English Localization instead of British English lol
I would like to take this time to thank America for getting us to 50 points. I would also like to express my disgust with the metric system for negging 50 points. That is all.
The Duality of Nationality
We were so close to having the first 49/10 anime
@@AdhalMK1 You clearly haven't seen Rent-a-girlfriend then
Had my "turn on RUclips dislike" extension turned on.
Lmao it was practically a 50/50 split. Great video don't be discouraged. I genuinely find these types of small differences interesting and how they can change how we see characters.
lmao ty
Bro really had us in the first half
prolly like the first 9/10ths
IKR? At first I was like, "what is this blasphemy?" Then shortly in, I was like "Seems fairly balanced to be so horrible..."😝
You know that Thomas Jefferson wanted the US to use the metric system but was stopped by pirates, right?
The only metric I care about is TONS
just read the entire manga today
so fucking good
the anime has been amazing as well
chad manga supporter
The basket is relivent. It gives him a reason he meets her in the square - he was out and about to do something related to the basket.
Same thing with the Fern mushroom basket, it implies she was out gathering mushrooms when she met Frieren. Since it is established Fern regularly trains in the forest and has excellent mana detection skills, I feel this detail doesn't add anything, unlike the himmel basket.
So many comments XD But I appreciate your enthusiasm. Thanks for checking out my videos!
@@SlothyCeddy I enjoyed this one quite a bit and plan to watch others when time permits. You did a pretty good job with nitpicking the differences with an excellent mix of serious and silly for the tone.
This episode was sponsored by Regulus Corneas, archbishop of the witchcult representing Greed, also known as founder of Twitter.
Ahem, I'm representing SLOTH not greed.
Masterpieces: Show trash rent a girlfriend anime💀
bro just needs better taste smh
2 more ducks 2 more points
The ducks are cracked
what!!!!!!!!! KM instead of Mile? I would +100 for that
unfortunate
at least +50 :D
Went from "lets see if he's cooking " to waiting for the punchline Real Quick.
Did you enjoy the punchline?
@@SlothyCeddy yes, but it was a wild ride to get there.
Can't believe you retracted a point for not having a CGI Dragon.
Also, to give credit where credit is due, you got me with the thumbnail and title, since the Frieren anime gets universal praise from what I've seen I wanted to give the critical looking Video a chance.
Absolutly baited.
@@TheRealJohnux Thanks for taking the chance. will have another when the next 8 eps drops
0:37 Bro really did a sneaky move with the trash can.
Frieren is indeed 神層
teehee
i was wondering why there's 'god' in that😭
while some removals can be annoying, this really does go to show how amazing the attnetion to detail is. this is probably one of the best videos of the most BUTCHERED anime of the year. good work!!
lmao ty
what
@@louisedyhlen3234 the video is satire my g
Great review dude
Thanks!
8:35 The box lid is under the box XD Great video btw!
yeah they shrunk it hella
Great vid! One critique though, kilometers are good, u trippin thinkin imperial's better.
Thanks for watching, but idk what a kilometer even is. I do think Imperials are better than stormcloaks though
AYOOOOOOOOO, DUCKS CARRING FRIEREN
you scared the fucking shit out of me with this
ooooooooo
I don't like your pointing system, but I still put a thumbs up here just because of the big effort you put into comparing them which is enlightening.
Whoa whoa whoa, what is a seagull if not a duck of the ocean?
I get seasick though, so no dice
duck? feel to big, maybe a goose
The reason of these dislike is because you called a goose a duck
you may be onto something
ducks = points 😂😂
I nearly left but glad i stayed. had some good laughs. Maybe change the title or the start of the video so more people stay and can enjoy good satire.
The issue would be if ppl clicked on it at all, or left once they realized it was satire. Still trying to find the right balance XD
So im going to say this in regards to the differences between the manga and the anime in terms of lines and dialogue;
You're reading two different localiazers takes on what the Japanese says- Im willing to bet that it's far similar between the mediums in its original langage than it is translated by two different groups of people.
Yeah, though I def prefer the manga localization here in regards to Flamme. As for the rest I just play it up a bit for comedy.
Wtf is a kilometer? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This gringo is the Best
lmao
Americano médio
This was the oddest review I have ever seen, but it's frieren 9/10 because you didn't review the whole season i guess.
I'll have a part 2 soonish
The video's ratio lmao, so many people fell for the bait haha
It do be like that lmao
Sarcasm doesn’t exist in 2023…
Nice video, I can see a lot of effort putting into this. Also, kilometers >> miles
Idk how something imaginary can be better than freedom units RAAH
i mean, technically speaking, a mile is longer than a kilometer so mile>kilometer, but metric>imperial
@@Klbkchhezeim some wierd math u got there bub
@@SlothyCeddy yeah, now that i have slept, I can only see this as my very pathetic attempt at a technical joke.
i am glad that is not the same . change is good .
Masterpieces (shows RAG), I see where this is going.
Eagle Vision
RAG?
@@Greatcelestialkaligo Rent a girlfriend
@@Rastaboulotte yup i knew from that point, its a shame since this is honestly one of the more unique videos no one elses has compared the manga and because of how dense people are it got hated on a bit, and its honestly one of my favorites
@@Greatcelestialkaligo RAG is one of your favorite? Hum, to each their own brother, but as long as you're having fun, it's entertainment after all.
the amount of people who disliked the video and immediately left
yeah, it is what it is
Well you expect people to hate watch then? Most people just see something and leave rather than watch something they hate and stay, this ain't Twitter, also there was no obvious satire at the beginning nor the title so it's pretty obvious people would just leave thinking it's someone nitpicking the adaptation, it's not really that impossible with today's content creation with people just finding new ways to hate on shows for absolutely no reason
I mean, calling rent-a-girlfriend peak hopefully tipped most ppl off. Maybe next time i'll flash the word satire on the screen XD.
@@SlothyCeddy well that one, I think everybody caught onto that joke... Tho I'm new to this channel and first time watching your vid, don't really know what this is actually about, it just popped out in my recommended, the first 2 minute mark of the video is what gets most people's attention so, yeah expect people to click off
@@exitium4929 True. I did debate if it was something worth perusing. The main thing was how much ppl praise this show, and being just another video singing it's praises or not doubling down on the bit likely would have led to the video doing far worse
OFC, that polarizes ppl. Though I tend to be a fairly sarcastic guy. So I came to the conclusion that I'd just Give it praise when it deserves it, make some jokes, and point out when I actually have a serious issue.
Hopefully it was a great video for those who stayed. No matter what I can't expect everyone to like my stuff. I did experiment with my latest video and...well I can see what works and what dosen't XD.
RUclips is a wierd space like that ig.
I get what your saying. When I first say hear a song that I like even if it's a remake....that's my favorite and always will be even the original will sound like an abomination to me and I'll be disgusted if they try to Jive it up for a "younger audience" like nails on a chalkboard, so I get what you say when you see alterations to your original manga.
I mean, I watched the anime first XD. This is really just to point out what's different with some satire.
I am anime only and dubbed at that. I would have been very upset having read the novel to see some of the changes as they do change the entire tone of the scene. It would be great if we lived in a world where the the anime creators worked with the original creator and he/she could say put this in here add that there to completely flesh out the anime as it would be a 1:1 transcription of the original work with nothing changed/cut out but that would make each episode 10 times longer. Which I would be fine with but I don't think the Anime company would agree to.@Ceddy
@@longdragon7067I mean frankly, this is basically as close to a 1:1 you can get. It's nearly panel-accurate.
Well looks like I need to get a clue here! 🤣 Seriously I love this show can't find a single flaw with it....I want more!@@SlothyCeddy
@@longdragon7067Always got a countdown to fridays!
3:20
But what your forgot is that the anime on the other hand had music over that scene which made it a lot better than the no music manga panel. Frieren has one of the best musics and music is enchancing stuff a lot.
Also I think its way better that Frieren started crying outside during the grave scene because she actually started crying when They started to put dirt on his coffin. That makes way more sense. In the cathedral she could still see Himmel lying peacefully. So she starting to cry only when they put dirt on his coffin and the realisation really sinks in hits harder in my opinion
If this is satire its friggen hilarius. 🤣🤣🤣 Though if its not most of these complaints are pretty petty.
This is in fact satire
@@SlothyCeddy This is definetly good work, Though sadly by the looks of the dislike to like ratio alot of people don't know that.
8:35 it was under the box i think
yee they did a funky with the size
8:36 The box lid is underneath the box..
Now the whole score is ruined. Unsubscribed…
nuh uh, they shrunk it!!
enjoyed the vid, liked
aye
Well played.
Thanks for indulging my games
This is not just a review. This is also a reveal of just how introverted SlothyCeddy is.
Ngl, idk what this one means XD
the original Japanese dialogue is the same. You mean that the manga was translated differently from the dialogue in the anime.
I can't read/speak Japanese, so I was commenting on the English translation yes
this some cinemasins style shit
damn
People keep saying this and idk if it's a good or bad thing since I don't watch em
I like ducks
+1
So, you Japanese well enough to know that the dialog is different between the anime and manga?
eeeh, I'm always learning, however the english translation from manga to anime is 100% different.
@@SlothyCeddy That's nor surprising, it happens a lot, different translators, different ways.
Ok point me to a 100% Manga to Film reproduction or any other Film for that matter. It's called Artistic Liberty, what does the sourse originator think of this?
Rent a Girlfriend is a great example smh.
13:50 this bit is infuriating, the axe is cleary on the more safe position in the anime, not in the source. In the source, as the center of mass is higher above the base, the axe is more unstable and willing to fall, also in that position a fall would propose an actual threat as it could hit Stark's neck, where in the anime the worse that could happen is a cut toe. Cleary you don't know anything about safe axe placement, and still you try to argue about it? How shameful.
Look, all I know is that 1. I failed physics and 2. I hate stubbing my toe
@@SlothyCeddy humph. And you still try to criticize that perfectly positioned axe. 🤷 Get better.
@@rafaelsantiagoaltoe6606 I'm amurican. I'm already better smh.
@@SlothyCeddy shit, you got me.
You forgot to add points for colors, sound, audio, vocals, music, soundtracks and animation, also translation will depend on who does it and how faithful it is to the original Japanese language. (Crunchyroll is known for butchering translations).
Also deducting 50 points for kilometers? I stopped taking your video seriously.
Ok, you got me at the end… 😊
I'm colorblind so can't say much there. Also can't really compare any of those to the manga since it isn't animated lol.
also RAAAAAAH
No bunny girl?? Literally unwatchable!!
frfr
21:28 WTF IS A Kilometer!!!!!!!!!!!
RAAAH
@@SlothyCeddyYou don’t know your own countries official units?
@@PythonPlusPlus United States customary units?
@@SlothyCeddy Nope, the official units of the USA are metric. It’s just that no one in your country apart from engineers and scholars use them.
@@PythonPlusPlus bro's just incorect
D1 Yapper
all american
your butchering of the names
-100
Guten Tag auch
I don't speak german XD
@@SlothyCeddy niemand ist perfekt.
@@poppers7317I dunno I'm pretty damn close /s
You're trolling.
Dunno. Should watch the video and find out
@@SlothyCeddy I did. I came here wanting to see someone say that Frieren is overrated. Got trolled instead. =P
@@HTMangaka Glad you liked it :P
@@SlothyCeddy Heheh. ^^
Good bait lol
Sublime Even
Didn't see any wrong
Based oshi themed pfp
This isn't aging well.
bro did NOT watch the video
@@SlothyCeddy So, you"re doing nit picking as a joke well, my response, is you can expect everyone sit through your entire speil.
@@waynewilliams1726truue. it's certainly not for everyone. Though joke isn't quite the right word since sarcasm is still a form of critisism.
@@SlothyCeddy I don't know why it showed up in my recommended after 3 months of episodes, that's the main reason i didn't watch the whole video. it didn't seem relevant.
Nope. They nailed it. Anime of the year!
I'd recommend watching the video then :P
-1 like 7:26 i love cats
My cat hates me, glad you like the stinkers though
@@SlothyCeddybased cat
im like five minutes in and i can already tell you are one of those types of people that get annoyed at angle changes or cinematic differences 😭this video is so petty and pathetic. frieren was a great adaptation
bro missed the sarcasam
@@SlothyCeddy perhaps it was just not funny in the first place
While I absolutely love Frieren, I'm kinda getting sick of people constantly praising it as some kind of next level anime/storytelling
I don't think it's next level or anything. But it is a great show.
Disliked because of the anti-cat agenda but I’ll like one other video to make up for it
Perfectly Balanced, as all things should be
Count your days. I am not a fan.
Bro isn't gonna like my next one...
That why i like that anime adaptation, because it's and adaptation and not a just copy source material and make it movie.
The manga is overrated too🤷♂️ bland, boring, emotionless
Oh no, oh frick, he thinks this was serious ;_;
Far too critical over highly irrelevant shit.
They should have added more ducks. Would have gotten more points
Downvoting a video be like:
compare to manga.....u ruin my experience watch this anime...
Do jojo's my nigga :P
idk ab that one, maybe if this vid gets a mill views lol.
we can work this out my brudda.@@SlothyCeddy