“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!” - Donquixote Donflamingo
@@jachiikemadubuko8875 Unclear Justice.... but eh close enough. I think technically Fujitora is Blind Justice, or that might be a little on the nose give he's actually blind.
Bro you fucking go off on these theories like your philosophy on one piece and life in general is awesome. Like you compare one piece to real life and make all these connections that apply in the real world it’s actually cool as fuck good job bro
@@JoyBoyTheoriesay joy boy I have a few theories of my own but lack knowledge in making videos of them. Mind if I pick your brain on a few of them and if you're convinced would you be open to making a video for those theories? One of them is the complete line up of tje straw hats from the ones already joined and the ones yet to join.
I am going to laugh my ass off if Hibari actually is confirmed to be Akainu's daughter, and laugh even harder if Coby x Hibari becomes cannon on top of that.
@@EzPz1337 I'm sure all the college kids are happy with a few days off and easy finals. And let's not act like for the last 50 years, that certain governments that we can't mention by name unless we feel like we want to be censored. Haven't been doing the right thing and sticking to their borders
@@edd2184 i was referencing ucla on the news and how OP was commenting about people that are angry over past grievances that they have never experienced.
Just cooked up a whole feast man. The content continues to get better, which is crazy because you've been doing this for so long. Appreciate the hard work man. Thank you.
@@mrbubbles6468i wouldnt completely say it doesnt make sense, luffy has shown disdain for akainu such as when he grabbed his chest scar like shanks did his eye scar when he was talking about blackbeard to whitebeard. Does luffy hold a revenge boner strong enough to distract him from his goals? No. But the dude forsure will punch akainu hard as hell whenever they meet in person next.
Honestly, Dragon being Rock's kid makes a lot of sense. We don't fully know Rock's story or his ambition, but Dragon and him are similar in the sense they sought to turn the world upside down but through very different means. Dragon wants to eliminate Celestial Dragons and bring justice and freedom and a new kinder version of order to the world, while Rocks wanted to rule the world through violent chaos. Also if Dragon is really Rock's kid, and Luffy's mom was Garp's biological mother, then Luffy becomes Rocks Monkey D. Luffy. The only real significance is Rocks Monkey, which could be rock monkey, which (if my chinese mythology doesn't fail me) is what Sun Wukong was born from, a rock monkey on top of a mountain, and who was Luffy raised by? Mountain bandits. Which if true makes for one hell of a cool connection theme.
@@Deode-d4h I heard from someone that there is a different word for Son in law in Japanese and Grap used my son so obviously he's not his son (son in law) Edit : Some people didn't understand sarcasm so I will change it
I'd put my money on both Dragon and Akainu being Garp's proteges, and having drastically different reactions to the God Valley incident and Garp's role in it.
We already know that Kuzan was Garps protege, but there's never been anything indicating Akainu. When he killed Ace Garp was ready to murder him, if Kuzan had done it there would've been a much different reaction beyond blood lust
I'd put my money on that not being true 😂. We already know Kuzan was Garp's protégé, I doubt another admiral was too. Not to mention Garp's willingness to kill Sakazuki and Sakazuki's lack of hesitation in killing Garp's adopted children.
19:55 "Akainu saw Dragon as the person in the marines he was chasing" and "existed in the shadow of dragon". Oh, kind of like where it seems like it's going with Shanks and Buggy. This comparison kinda helps me see why he would resent dragon so much, as Buggy resents Shanks for essentially failing him. Akainu would despise Dragon in a similar way, makes sense, I like it.
Just some theory crafting about Akainu's childhood. I imagine scenario like what you mentioned in this video, where his hometown or something was raided by pirates. And the adults running the place had a moment where they managed to turn things around and capture the pirates, and decided to do what Otohime did for Mjolsgard and spare them. But the pirates came back with force and finished the job, and he, like Robin, was the sole survivor. And so the lesson he took from this is to never trust a pirate, and never let them escape, because they will become a bigger threat if you do. It also explains how he knew Luffy would become a greater threat and went straight for the kill. You could change a few details around, but the general outline of this idea makes sense of his absolutist/Piso's justice mentality.
I gotta say man, you have some of the most well thought out and evidenced theories for any series I’ve ever watched. You do a great job of picking up on all of the subtext and clues left through the series so far and connecting them in ways that would fit SO well into the story as a whole, be it characters and their bloodlines, themes, overarching plot lines, etc. Hats off to you joy boy theories 🎩 Can’t wait for the next video and keep up the great work!
"Anime genetics" is definitely a thing. It's been clear for a while since Oda drew Luffy at age 60 Luffy looks like Garp and prime Garp looks like Luffy drawn at age 40, Dragon doesn't look like either, Dragon is definitely adopted into the family and the mom is Garp's daughter That's pretty apparent with Shimotsuki Ushimaru whom we all thought could have been Zoro's dad but was in fact his great uncle, because of "anime genetics" That's precisely why it's pretty clearn why Tashigi is another Shimotsuki and another cousin of Kuina 52 years ago 25 people left Wano and 10 stayed to build Shimotsuki Village while the other 15 wandered around so it's pretty obvious that every character with Japanese (Wano) aesthetics or something related to Japanese culture is clearly from Wano such as: - Akainu, he has a mafia irezumi (sleeve tattoo) - Fujitora, pretty obvious - Kumadori (and his mom), he has obvious kabuuki theme - Tashigi, anime genetics, obviously another Shimotsuki cousin to Zoro and Kuina
You were in your BAG with this one Joy Boy! Love the triangle theory, the FOIL proposition, and the Dragon backstory i think will be slightly different but you are on to something with the comparisons of who is raising who
The rocks being dragons dad is what i have thought since i saw his silhouette. 100% confirmed it for me when we saw how rocks ran off just like luffy. It was just how he acted. Also whoop slap saying maybe it was his fate to be a pirate is because he knows dragons lineage as well.
@@Ben-iz9ud isn’t there a different Japanese word for son in law? I’m open to it being a red herring tho, especially if Dragon became a son to garp after training him like kuzan
100% Garp told Akainu "if you become admiral or fleet admiral, you're gonna have a sad time". Then he did, the curtain was drawn back, he learned about all of the legalized atrocities. The same thing probably happened to Garp and Dragon in the past and broke them. In short, only a broken corrupt person can have a higher leadership position within the Marines. Because of this, I bet Akainu has actually been questioning the corner he's in to the point where yes, he's begun making his own plans for martial law, the power to Rule.
I have enjoyed your theories for a couple weeks now. I thoroughly enjoy your delivery method. But specifically in this video although it might have been drawn out I seriously appreciated the in depth analysis of Justice vs Order vs Freedom and the implications of that on the story and from a philosophical perspective
You always bring such context and design with your videos and theories I most always find myself drawn in. A pleasure to listen to you JB, thanks for another great video!
My thoughts are. Akainu grew up on beehive. It would fit as he grew up with the worst ppl and that warped his views on pirates. I think kuzan is a rev spy inotva true bb pirate so akainu 2 top enemies are actually friends. I think akainu will create the neo marines as a way to protect his image abd distance himself from the goresei. In japanese garp calls him son but the word he uses can mean son and son in law. Finally. I could see luffys mother being a marine who got close 2 dragon and he got her involved in all this and akainu hates him for it. So hes like snape. Ps any theories on where greenbull and fujitora came from. They just becsme instant admirals
21:25 less like Guy & Kakashi more like Endeavor & All Might ..Akainu couldnt catch up to his rival within the Marines then Dragon just Up & Left his world like All might without a Quirk. He was Furious the #1 spot felt handed to him
Glad someone is on the same page with me thinking that it is still possible that Dragon is not Garp's biological son. Ever since that the Battleship Bags flashback chapter, everyone uses the Garp line "My son became a revolutionary! Damn it!" as concrete proof that they are biological father and son. Given how prevalent the idea of found family is in One Piece and with us having the specific example of Ace calling Garp his grandfather despite their lack of blood relation, it doesn't make much sense to use that statement as irrefutuable proof of a biological connection between Garp and Dragon. Having Dragon being Xebec's son and his wife being Garp's daughter is just too perfect of a narrative set up for us to get information on Xebec's backstory, Dragon's backstory, and Luffy's mom. If Oda actually had goals of ending the story any time soon (5 years or less) you would almost need to do something like this so you can address all of this unexplained lore in one fell swoop.
In some databook, it was said that Dragon was born "as Garp's son" but I would not be surprised if Dragon still ended up being his adopted son. If this does end up being the case, there is going to be some long lost biological daughter shananigians with Garp.
Everyone focuses only on the male side of the Monkey family while it's not unlikely that there was a woman in between. It'd be more original writing if Garp had a daughter who was Luffy's mother. Although I dislike the idea of Xebec being related to Luffy. I like that Dragon married in the family, but he doesn't need any important ancestors.
@@metal87power My guess is whether we like it or not Dragon will have some sort of important ancestors. If not Xebec, maybe one of the Shandians? His tattoo seems to suggest relation to their culture. If his face tattoo isn't meant to be a direct connection to Shandia, I'd be really curious to find out what it is supposed to mean?
Broooo another banger! I was never a fan of the Dragon is Rock’s son theory but when you cook it up like this I’m all in! Also the triangle of order, justice, and freedom is 🔥🔥🔥 We appreciate you JB
@@JoyBoyTheoriescould you tell me what the background song at 8:00 is? For the life of me it is on the tip on my brain and im convinced it is some 16 bit game soundtrack. Some supernintendo game song maybe? HELP ME!
Fun video. The relationship between Dragon and Sakazuki is something I absolutely need to see elaborated eventually. Also I love the Area Zero music being used :D
Joy boy you r the best I love you videos so much you said in a video sorry guys it took me so long get in the point and it's not the first time you said it I love so much your videos and don't think you need to apologizing it's part of your magic the . You can talk a long as you want it's part of your magic I always go to a spiritual journey man thank you I think you don't need to change instead of apologizing in something like this because it's part of part of who you are and how do you like to do art and I think your art is amazing be yourself be free stop apologizing the way you do your videos and again I appreciate you man I love your videos so I just listened to them to Blackbeard one to and shnks is the best videos out there about one piece and I don't remember how many many time I watch it
i think its gonna be like koby and helmeppo, koby is dragon and helmeppo is akainu, helmeppo kinda tried to kill an innocent guy like akainu, and koby wants true justice. Also, i think yassop and blackbeard are brothers, or usopp is related to blackbeard, they both got some parallels like cowards, long noses and so on
Akainu probably has seen his parents getting killed by pirates when he was a little kid. I predict Akainu dying in the end because he will go all out against both pirates and the world government at the same time. He will probably cause huge damage to someone or do something that will than turn out to favor one side (probably marines, aka Sword) before his last breath. And as he dies we will get his sad flashback that will explain why he is who he is.
28:40 The way you pointed out Dragon sharing similarities to Rocks' silhouette reminds me of when Luffy first saw his father's picture, he commented that Dragon looked nothing like him. I always found it strange how Oda drew attention to that.
You killed it with the dragon is xebecs son theory. It connects all the puzzle pieces perfectly. Keep dropping ur theories JB!!! Ur logic is sound af!!!
I've been saying this since he snapped back at the Gorosei and they told him to watch his tongue. I knew and have a better understanding of his sense of justice and the notion that he will do a heel turn in some capacity!
I have something that adds to this Theory, its very small but it helps: In Chapter 957, Fujitora and Akainu discuss about the abolishment of the Shichibukai System. Directly after that, Akainu mentions Big Mom & Kaido teaming up again, to which Fujitora questions the return or Rocks D Xebec to which Akainu follows up saying this: “You don’t need to speak of it like some Legend, Its all reality” Take that how you will but i think this subtle quote definitely adds to the idea that Akainu 100% knows about Rocks as if through personal experience.
JB... Seeing the development on your channel recently really makes me happy. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ONE PIECE RUclipsR, if not RUclipsr in general. The day you stop posting theories will be a sad day for humanity. I pray that after Oda receives the immortality surgery and Law dies (oops), Bepo eats the fruit and does the surgery on you. Keep up the amazing work. I think I represent a lot of people from the community with this thought.
I would like 2 bounce a theory off you i had. I cant really go into all the details as its hard to do it on youtube comments but essentially. When kid mentioned MMBF law stood up and walked away which robin noted. This tells me law knows who this is and its not good news. So looking at laws life i think i know who it is. Its lami. Laws sister. She died assumingly in a house fire. What if she lived and somehow she ended up in this situation There is more to it. But thats the basis. Lami survived but was horribly burned n law found out years later. But by then it was to late. The issue is she is a woman but again. In wano kaido said he had a son and like 2 chaps later. We met yamato. But given laws reaction and the fact oda tends to do fake outs and we assumed his sister died in a fire i think there might be something here n i think saturn is involved
I have a theory for you joyboy we have seen very little of God valley and of what we know of rox d. But I've been thinking why hasn't luffys mom been brought up by anyone. What if instead of Dragon being Roxs kid what if it was luffys mom. Dragon fell in love with a women who was marked for death by the Marines after her execution he realized the Marines where not the outlet he needed and dropped Luffy off in the east blue to hide him and only kept the connection to garp since no one would question or challenge him to execute or persue Luffy. Edit there is more to this but didn't want to add a short novel.
really great theory , it just like when oda included kuma into luffy’s past, it’s highly likely that we already have a lots of connection between dragon and the events we’ve already seen in the story… we can see the connections to marine Ford more clearly cause it is the biggest marine based arc , he probably have more ties to other arcs that we don’t know yet , big characters roughly at the same age could have connection to him too, i’m so excited to see his flashback.
I just hope rocks being luffys other grandfather is real just because luffy being related to THE hero of the marines and also related to THE villain of the pirates is just so cool
out of all the Rocks lineage theories I like this one the most, it would be a nice twist considering the recent reference to Blackbeard's lineage in the manga since most people probably assume its BB that has blood relations to Rocks
The Rocks stuff and Dragon leaving becoming the "Worlds Worst Criminal" etc. could add a lot of explanation as to why Garp was so pushy for Luffy NOT to follow in his footsteps and become a marine instead. He "failed" with dragon, he "failed" with Ace, and he doesn't want to see the same things happen to Luffy. It's a complete opposite too with his position of "freedom" and probably hurt him a lot to try to and force someone to do something they don't want to do but like he said in the live action "I've always known what you are Luffy, I just had to be sure you knew it too" (quote is probably a bit wrong but you get the point) he just cares so much that he wants them to be 100% sure in the choices they make and not regret anything, as such he has technically not failed any of them. He succeeded in raising children who wouldn't fail at being themselves.
Following suit to the tinfoil hat theory. If the timeline makes sense, what if Dragon was born from the egg on Rogers boat, so Roger entrusted Garp with Ace and the Dragon Egg. Which is why they named him Dragon cuz he came from the egg.
Though.. in a way Akainu's stance in the marines is somewhat over the top and contradictory if you look to closely at it. Almost as though he is following the path of his justice very obviously while deliberatly ignoring everything that gose against it. but what if that's the point. If the revolutinaries do want to take down the Celestial dragons, the marines must accept the eventual outcome. the marines must be in a position to step in to fill their gap and insure justice is upheld. Akainnu and Dragon are two sides of the same coin. but they are Still the same coin. What if they are working on seperate sides of the coin? One works to remove the celestial dragons. the other works to take over the marines in a way that the Celestial dragons dont notice, to prepare a foundation of stability after the revolution succeeds. Or as a back up plan if the revolution fails.
No man I appreciate the thoughts you put out there literally its "out there". Idk looking at Garp and Luffy they seem too biologically similarly especially kid Garp and even young adult Garp and Luffy look exactly alike (that may just be Oda's art style though 😅) Also I'm writing own books and analyzing different character traits and stuff. Even if I did write it all I still wouldn't even know how to publish it. So its neat you did it 👍
Dragon not being Garp's biological son was an old theory of mine which simply came from how Garp introduced Dragon to Luffy. The way he said, "your father" rather than my son stood out to me back then. But any case thinking about it now. It still makes sense. At this point to me, Oda is pretty much allergic to write a normal blood relationship between parent and a child. It's almost always an adoptive parent instead of blood relative that becomes the real parent. This happening once or twice wouldn't be striking, since it contains all the positive message. But in One Piece it happens far too many times. Meanwhile the actual blood relations range from non-existent to bad. But still. Dragon and Garp relationship aside, Dragon being son of Rocks is quite a cool theory I never heard before.
Taking this video as another of those philosophical talks, the triangle is very interesting; I also think it's moveable: we are mobile within them. Like some of Kuzan's actions where he leans for justice, or for freedom, and maybe Kizaru would do something on Egghead... We have a center, and the most interesting thing happens when we move away from it
2 vids in a couple of days!get in there mate! Akainu is basically what we'd call an (Old Boy) it's a term used in boarding school, after leaving and finishing school, or being promoted to a prefect, you stop wearing a (basher which is a strawhat! or school cap. Then for the one's who have left usually wear their old uniform I.e blazer, cap etc
Sun Wukong the monkey king was born from a rock, Monkey D. Luffy the king of the pirates comes from a lineage of 'Rocks'? Certainly some interesting things being said here.
WIPER, AKAINU, HORDY got something in common based on what you said about Hordy and Akainu being blind to what they follow. Wiper was programed by his Elders just like Hordy was programed by the actions of Arlong. We gotta see who programed Akainu
I believe that Sakazuki was adopted by Garp's assistant Bogard based off American actor Humphrey Bogart and Sakazuki speaks with a Hiroshima accent is the closest thing to American accent and I believe Sakazuki's fixation on enemies embedding themselves in the Navy stems from him working in the Internal Affairs divison and Dragon used to work in that unit too but he became disilluioned and quit the marines.
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“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!” - Donquixote Donflamingo
"Be aware of the ones lurking on the shadows " Dragon and revo
Truths. If Doffy wrote a 48 Laws of Power style book, I'd buy it.
Legendary lines
"Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values!" So powerfull, especially now.
Boooo boooo
"I don't make the rules, I just blindly enforce them" Akainu, probably.
kizaru is blind justice right?
@@jachiikemadubuko8875 Unclear Justice.... but eh close enough.
I think technically Fujitora is Blind Justice, or that might be a little on the nose give he's actually blind.
@@regiman222 Fujitora is Humanitarian Justice, Kizaru is Indecisive/Vague Justice, Ryokugyu is Suicidal Justice
Bro you fucking go off on these theories like your philosophy on one piece and life in general is awesome. Like you compare one piece to real life and make all these connections that apply in the real world it’s actually cool as fuck good job bro
Thats why I'm here lmao
HotBoySpicy and Aleczandxr should be added to that category as well
@@JoyBoyTheoriesay joy boy I have a few theories of my own but lack knowledge in making videos of them. Mind if I pick your brain on a few of them and if you're convinced would you be open to making a video for those theories? One of them is the complete line up of tje straw hats from the ones already joined and the ones yet to join.
If Hibari is Akainu's daughter, it would parallel Dragon even more considering their children are on opposite factions.
Yeah that Hiroshima accent thing is awesome foreshadowing
Oda really is the 🐐a
I am going to laugh my ass off if Hibari actually is confirmed to be Akainu's daughter, and laugh even harder if Coby x Hibari becomes cannon on top of that.
@@BladeEdge86 Family gatherings are gonna be sooo awkward
@@BladeEdge86CobyxHibari is already pretty much canon.
@@newt2120 Oda has been dropping those hints, we will see what happens though.
That Hoddy statement resonates so well...
How many people are out there upset and angry over past grievances they never experienced
The UCLA agrees
@@EzPz1337 I'm sure all the college kids are happy with a few days off and easy finals.
And let's not act like for the last 50 years, that certain governments that we can't mention by name unless we feel like we want to be censored.
Haven't been doing the right thing and sticking to their borders
@@edd2184 i was referencing ucla on the news and how OP was commenting about people that are angry over past grievances that they have never experienced.
Marine: *Runs away*
Akainu: I took that personally
Blackbeard: runs away multiple times
Akainu: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
To be on Akainus side is that since and if he is more of a solider of justice, deserters used to be offed. but we need back story lol
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@@josephmother2659 One word: Plot.
I just finished cooking. Perfect timing. Thank you
Hope you enjoy!
I listened to it while cooking now I'm not hungry 😂😂😂
I love that Crocomom sneaks into serious videos like this even. The fandom has fully embraced Crocomom.
na only fems boys who want it to be true.
Just cooked up a whole feast man. The content continues to get better, which is crazy because you've been doing this for so long. Appreciate the hard work man. Thank you.
My pleasure bro
I like the idea of Sakazuki and Dragon fighting. I never thought Luffy fighting, or holding a grudge, against him made much sense
Luffy holding a grudge does not make much sense. Even Garp admitted that Ace had to die and he was only getting angry in the immediate aftermath.
@@mrbubbles6468i wouldnt completely say it doesnt make sense, luffy has shown disdain for akainu such as when he grabbed his chest scar like shanks did his eye scar when he was talking about blackbeard to whitebeard. Does luffy hold a revenge boner strong enough to distract him from his goals? No. But the dude forsure will punch akainu hard as hell whenever they meet in person next.
Dragon being the most wanted man in the world and Xebec being the most dangerous man in the world
Honestly, Dragon being Rock's kid makes a lot of sense. We don't fully know Rock's story or his ambition, but Dragon and him are similar in the sense they sought to turn the world upside down but through very different means. Dragon wants to eliminate Celestial Dragons and bring justice and freedom and a new kinder version of order to the world, while Rocks wanted to rule the world through violent chaos.
Also if Dragon is really Rock's kid, and Luffy's mom was Garp's biological mother, then Luffy becomes Rocks Monkey D. Luffy. The only real significance is Rocks Monkey, which could be rock monkey, which (if my chinese mythology doesn't fail me) is what Sun Wukong was born from, a rock monkey on top of a mountain, and who was Luffy raised by? Mountain bandits. Which if true makes for one hell of a cool connection theme.
I was thinking this as well!
Meant to say Garp's biological daughter, not mother.
But it is already revealed during Aokijis backstory and Grap himself said my son became a Revolutionary
@@BlackShadow-nm5bw You can call your step-son "son" if you're pretty close go them or are okay calling them your son.
@@Deode-d4h I heard from someone that there is a different word for Son in law in Japanese and Grap used my son so obviously he's not his son (son in law)
Edit : Some people didn't understand sarcasm so I will change it
this entire discussion is soooo good! Connects so many pieces of Dragon, Akainu, and the endgame of one piece
I just finished your previous video! Now I must listen this one before I go to sleep!
I feel like I gained a complete new understanding of the marines. Insanely good video
Always awesome theories JB, this fits really well to the story
I'd put my money on both Dragon and Akainu being Garp's proteges, and having drastically different reactions to the God Valley incident and Garp's role in it.
We already know that Kuzan was Garps protege, but there's never been anything indicating Akainu. When he killed Ace Garp was ready to murder him, if Kuzan had done it there would've been a much different reaction beyond blood lust
I'd put my money on that not being true 😂. We already know Kuzan was Garp's protégé, I doubt another admiral was too. Not to mention Garp's willingness to kill Sakazuki and Sakazuki's lack of hesitation in killing Garp's adopted children.
I listened to this video after work on my way home, and now I'm actually watching it. The editing is amazing, one of my favorite Joyboy vids 👏
I been saying this for years. Thank you. !!!!!
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Bonus video, thanks JB. Love the thought Dragon is the son of Rocks!
19:55 "Akainu saw Dragon as the person in the marines he was chasing" and "existed in the shadow of dragon".
Oh, kind of like where it seems like it's going with Shanks and Buggy. This comparison kinda helps me see why he would resent dragon so much, as Buggy resents Shanks for essentially failing him. Akainu would despise Dragon in a similar way, makes sense, I like it.
Man i like the (new) animations to support your theories! Makes it a much smoother experience over all
I love the part about freedom order and justice. Excellently done. Really thought provoking.
Just some theory crafting about Akainu's childhood. I imagine scenario like what you mentioned in this video, where his hometown or something was raided by pirates. And the adults running the place had a moment where they managed to turn things around and capture the pirates, and decided to do what Otohime did for Mjolsgard and spare them. But the pirates came back with force and finished the job, and he, like Robin, was the sole survivor. And so the lesson he took from this is to never trust a pirate, and never let them escape, because they will become a bigger threat if you do. It also explains how he knew Luffy would become a greater threat and went straight for the kill.
You could change a few details around, but the general outline of this idea makes sense of his absolutist/Piso's justice mentality.
This video upon first watch is already one of my favorite Marine analysis type videos I’ve heard ever! Great job man keep it up!
I gotta say man, you have some of the most well thought out and evidenced theories for any series I’ve ever watched. You do a great job of picking up on all of the subtext and clues left through the series so far and connecting them in ways that would fit SO well into the story as a whole, be it characters and their bloodlines, themes, overarching plot lines, etc. Hats off to you joy boy theories 🎩 Can’t wait for the next video and keep up the great work!
I appreciate that!
"Anime genetics" is definitely a thing.
It's been clear for a while since Oda drew Luffy at age 60
Luffy looks like Garp and prime Garp looks like Luffy drawn at age 40, Dragon doesn't look like either, Dragon is definitely adopted into the family and the mom is Garp's daughter
That's pretty apparent with Shimotsuki Ushimaru whom we all thought could have been Zoro's dad but was in fact his great uncle, because of "anime genetics"
That's precisely why it's pretty clearn why Tashigi is another Shimotsuki and another cousin of Kuina
52 years ago 25 people left Wano and 10 stayed to build Shimotsuki Village while the other 15 wandered around so it's pretty obvious that every character with Japanese (Wano) aesthetics or something related to Japanese culture is clearly from Wano such as:
- Akainu, he has a mafia irezumi (sleeve tattoo)
- Fujitora, pretty obvious
- Kumadori (and his mom), he has obvious kabuuki theme
- Tashigi, anime genetics, obviously another Shimotsuki cousin to Zoro and Kuina
great theory!
@@JoyBoyTheories I hope to see another video coming going into detail which of the descendants of the Wano people we met around the world 😉
you are definitely pathetic
Bet akainu is still mad for not killing luffy to sti*k it to dragon in Marineford 😂
Good luck for him getting this luffy know 😂
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You were in your BAG with this one Joy Boy! Love the triangle theory, the FOIL proposition, and the Dragon backstory i think will be slightly different but you are on to something with the comparisons of who is raising who
The rocks being dragons dad is what i have thought since i saw his silhouette. 100% confirmed it for me when we saw how rocks ran off just like luffy. It was just how he acted.
Also whoop slap saying maybe it was his fate to be a pirate is because he knows dragons lineage as well.
Dad? I think like 20 issues ago Garp finally called dragon “my son” so I think it’s more likely they’re brothers
Edit: chapter 1087
@@ProjectileGrommet he would still be his son if he married garps daughter. We will see, still have to get dragon and xebecs story
@@Ben-iz9ud isn’t there a different Japanese word for son in law?
I’m open to it being a red herring tho, especially if Dragon became a son to garp after training him like kuzan
@@Ben-iz9ud People like you would rather ignore Garp's wife, just to show how pathetic you are
Thank you for your hard work JB! Listened to this to fall asleep last night and im back to actually finish the video 😅
100% Garp told Akainu "if you become admiral or fleet admiral, you're gonna have a sad time". Then he did, the curtain was drawn back, he learned about all of the legalized atrocities.
The same thing probably happened to Garp and Dragon in the past and broke them. In short, only a broken corrupt person can have a higher leadership position within the Marines. Because of this, I bet Akainu has actually been questioning the corner he's in to the point where yes, he's begun making his own plans for martial law, the power to Rule.
This was great work! Tied those two characters together so nicely. More to come though with them so it's only going to improve.
Another great video, tin foil or not. I appreciate the amount of deep thought you put in.
My pleasure!
Love it great videos as always I'm always immersed and looking forward to what your theories are !!!
The best stories are about families: Dragon ball. Dune. Star Wars. Back to the Future. Once Piece.
Let it sink.
Also, amazing editing.
I have enjoyed your theories for a couple weeks now. I thoroughly enjoy your delivery method. But specifically in this video although it might have been drawn out I seriously appreciated the in depth analysis of Justice vs Order vs Freedom and the implications of that on the story and from a philosophical perspective
I've played this video so many times because the way you tell the story of Dragon and Akainu is incredible.
This is an exceptionally well-made video. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Another banger!! I love this entire video. I feel like I need a cigarette. I don't even smoke
You always bring such context and design with your videos and theories I most always find myself drawn in.
A pleasure to listen to you JB, thanks for another great video!
Love these videos bro 🔥🔥
My thoughts are.
Akainu grew up on beehive. It would fit as he grew up with the worst ppl and that warped his views on pirates.
I think kuzan is a rev spy inotva true bb pirate so akainu 2 top enemies are actually friends.
I think akainu will create the neo marines as a way to protect his image abd distance himself from the goresei.
In japanese garp calls him son but the word he uses can mean son and son in law.
Finally. I could see luffys mother being a marine who got close 2 dragon and he got her involved in all this and akainu hates him for it. So hes like snape.
Ps any theories on where greenbull and fujitora came from. They just becsme instant admirals
I want to do a fuji theory tbh
Would love to see Akainu being from Beehive...
Superb philosophical breakdown, this would get an A in my class. Really well thought out
JB with with a mid day banger 🔥
Amazing way of editting .u made ur theories with it to be far more interesting .keep going
10:09 There it is folks, Akainu’s whole backstory:
“Tell me! What did pirates ever do to you?!”
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Sakazuki, “Absolutely nothing.”
looking at akainus drawing of when he was a child something definitely did happen to him
21:25 less like Guy & Kakashi more like Endeavor & All Might ..Akainu couldnt catch up to his rival within the Marines then Dragon just Up & Left his world like All might without a Quirk. He was Furious the #1 spot felt handed to him
Was the thousand sunny foreshadowing of Luffy's awakening? Just thought about it.
Of course.
That 3 point diagram was immaculate
It's so nice to see the Old JoyBoy "Theories" Back!
I love your theories and I hope Oda is as deep a thinker about his characters and his story as you are.
Thank you for this video!
Hearing the DBZ tune 5 ish mins in took me back to watching the Garlic Jr saga as a kid in 2000 and I thank you for that
Glad someone is on the same page with me thinking that it is still possible that Dragon is not Garp's biological son. Ever since that the Battleship Bags flashback chapter, everyone uses the Garp line "My son became a revolutionary! Damn it!" as concrete proof that they are biological father and son. Given how prevalent the idea of found family is in One Piece and with us having the specific example of Ace calling Garp his grandfather despite their lack of blood relation, it doesn't make much sense to use that statement as irrefutuable proof of a biological connection between Garp and Dragon. Having Dragon being Xebec's son and his wife being Garp's daughter is just too perfect of a narrative set up for us to get information on Xebec's backstory, Dragon's backstory, and Luffy's mom. If Oda actually had goals of ending the story any time soon (5 years or less) you would almost need to do something like this so you can address all of this unexplained lore in one fell swoop.
In some databook, it was said that Dragon was born "as Garp's son" but I would not be surprised if Dragon still ended up being his adopted son. If this does end up being the case, there is going to be some long lost biological daughter shananigians with Garp.
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**in waltzes the Crocomom theory**
Everyone focuses only on the male side of the Monkey family while it's not unlikely that there was a woman in between. It'd be more original writing if Garp had a daughter who was Luffy's mother. Although I dislike the idea of Xebec being related to Luffy. I like that Dragon married in the family, but he doesn't need any important ancestors.
@@metal87power My guess is whether we like it or not Dragon will have some sort of important ancestors. If not Xebec, maybe one of the Shandians? His tattoo seems to suggest relation to their culture. If his face tattoo isn't meant to be a direct connection to Shandia, I'd be really curious to find out what it is supposed to mean?
Broooo another banger! I was never a fan of the Dragon is Rock’s son theory but when you cook it up like this I’m all in! Also the triangle of order, justice, and freedom is 🔥🔥🔥 We appreciate you JB
Yeah I kinda surprised myself with how well that worked lmao
@@JoyBoyTheoriescould you tell me what the background song at 8:00 is? For the life of me it is on the tip on my brain and im convinced it is some 16 bit game soundtrack. Some supernintendo game song maybe?
HELP ME!
@@JoyBoyTheoriesdonkey kong or chrono trigger?
Something that leans into that E flat 16 bit sound?
Broo i'm also banger that you're pathetic
The area zero music from Pokemon scarlet and violet is perfect theory music! 👏🏼
Lets go JB ❤🎉
Fun video. The relationship between Dragon and Sakazuki is something I absolutely need to see elaborated eventually. Also I love the Area Zero music being used :D
Luffys hair when he first went 5th gear looked vaguely like rocks hair
Joy boy you r the best I love you videos so much you said in a video sorry guys it took me so long get in the point and it's not the first time you said it I love so much your videos and don't think you need to apologizing it's part of your magic the . You can talk a long as you want it's part of your magic I always go to a spiritual journey man thank you I think you don't need to change instead of apologizing in something like this because it's part of part of who you are and how do you like to do art and I think your art is amazing be yourself be free stop apologizing the way you do your videos and again I appreciate you man I love your videos so I just listened to them to Blackbeard one to and shnks is the best videos out there about one piece and I don't remember how many many time I watch it
I’ve always thought dragon may be rocks son based on the silhouette and how similar they look
I think fujitora would be a great example of the middle ground for freedom and justice.
i think its gonna be like koby and helmeppo, koby is dragon and helmeppo is akainu, helmeppo kinda tried to kill an innocent guy like akainu, and koby wants true justice. Also, i think yassop and blackbeard are brothers, or usopp is related to blackbeard, they both got some parallels like cowards, long noses and so on
Akainu probably has seen his parents getting killed by pirates when he was a little kid.
I predict Akainu dying in the end because he will go all out against both pirates and the world government at the same time.
He will probably cause huge damage to someone or do something that will than turn out to favor one side (probably marines, aka Sword) before his last breath.
And as he dies we will get his sad flashback that will explain why he is who he is.
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The way you pointed out Dragon sharing similarities to Rocks' silhouette reminds me of when Luffy first saw his father's picture, he commented that Dragon looked nothing like him. I always found it strange how Oda drew attention to that.
Your triangle Marine scale is absolutely genius and in my opinion, spot on.
Love the RuneScape background music. Makes me want to play again
You killed it with the dragon is xebecs son theory. It connects all the puzzle pieces perfectly. Keep dropping ur theories JB!!! Ur logic is sound af!!!
Maybe you can do some more content on Rocks
I've been saying this since he snapped back at the Gorosei and they told him to watch his tongue. I knew and have a better understanding of his sense of justice and the notion that he will do a heel turn in some capacity!
Amazing theory JB! Luffy’s lineage makes so much more sense the way you put it, let’s see how Oda plays this!
I have something that adds to this Theory, its very small but it helps:
In Chapter 957, Fujitora and Akainu discuss about the abolishment of the Shichibukai System. Directly after that, Akainu mentions Big Mom & Kaido teaming up again, to which Fujitora questions the return or Rocks D Xebec to which Akainu follows up saying this: “You don’t need to speak of it like some Legend, Its all reality”
Take that how you will but i think this subtle quote definitely adds to the idea that Akainu 100% knows about Rocks as if through personal experience.
perfect add
Don’t let the haters get to you man I love your theories
I always felt the Blackbeard vs RA clash was odd, it’s gunna get fleshed out for sure if dragon is xebecs son now that Blackbeard has Garp
JB...
Seeing the development on your channel recently really makes me happy. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ONE PIECE RUclipsR, if not RUclipsr in general. The day you stop posting theories will be a sad day for humanity.
I pray that after Oda receives the immortality surgery and Law dies (oops), Bepo eats the fruit and does the surgery on you. Keep up the amazing work. I think I represent a lot of people from the community with this thought.
I would like 2 bounce a theory off you i had. I cant really go into all the details as its hard to do it on youtube comments but essentially.
When kid mentioned MMBF law stood up and walked away which robin noted. This tells me law knows who this is and its not good news.
So looking at laws life i think i know who it is.
Its lami. Laws sister. She died assumingly in a house fire. What if she lived and somehow she ended up in this situation
There is more to it. But thats the basis.
Lami survived but was horribly burned n law found out years later. But by then it was to late.
The issue is she is a woman but again. In wano kaido said he had a son and like 2 chaps later. We met yamato.
But given laws reaction and the fact oda tends to do fake outs and we assumed his sister died in a fire i think there might be something here n i think saturn is involved
I personally don't think so, but what a wild twist that would be...
I have a theory for you joyboy we have seen very little of God valley and of what we know of rox d. But I've been thinking why hasn't luffys mom been brought up by anyone. What if instead of Dragon being Roxs kid what if it was luffys mom. Dragon fell in love with a women who was marked for death by the Marines after her execution he realized the Marines where not the outlet he needed and dropped Luffy off in the east blue to hide him and only kept the connection to garp since no one would question or challenge him to execute or persue Luffy.
Edit there is more to this but didn't want to add a short novel.
would be awesome that way too!
really great theory , it just like when oda included kuma into luffy’s past, it’s highly likely that we already have a lots of connection between dragon and the events we’ve already seen in the story… we can see the connections to marine Ford more clearly cause it is the biggest marine based arc , he probably have more ties to other arcs that we don’t know yet , big characters roughly at the same age could have connection to him too, i’m so excited to see his flashback.
I just hope rocks being luffys other grandfather is real just because luffy being related to THE hero of the marines and also related to THE villain of the pirates is just so cool
I know its Oda story but this has to be in OP
The triangle was super interesting! That and the xebec connection
Yoooo joyboy
Such a great analysis with the triangle. Wow
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Sooo maybe Dragon is the treasure the Celestial Dragons stole back then and thats why Rocks chased them down
Joyboy theories theory!! Finally!!
out of all the Rocks lineage theories I like this one the most, it would be a nice twist considering the recent reference to Blackbeard's lineage in the manga since most people probably assume its BB that has blood relations to Rocks
The Rocks stuff and Dragon leaving becoming the "Worlds Worst Criminal" etc. could add a lot of explanation as to why Garp was so pushy for Luffy NOT to follow in his footsteps and become a marine instead. He "failed" with dragon, he "failed" with Ace, and he doesn't want to see the same things happen to Luffy. It's a complete opposite too with his position of "freedom" and probably hurt him a lot to try to and force someone to do something they don't want to do but like he said in the live action "I've always known what you are Luffy, I just had to be sure you knew it too" (quote is probably a bit wrong but you get the point) he just cares so much that he wants them to be 100% sure in the choices they make and not regret anything, as such he has technically not failed any of them. He succeeded in raising children who wouldn't fail at being themselves.
Following suit to the tinfoil hat theory. If the timeline makes sense, what if Dragon was born from the egg on Rogers boat, so Roger entrusted Garp with Ace and the Dragon Egg. Which is why they named him Dragon cuz he came from the egg.
Though.. in a way Akainu's stance in the marines is somewhat over the top and contradictory if you look to closely at it. Almost as though he is following the path of his justice very obviously while deliberatly ignoring everything that gose against it.
but what if that's the point. If the revolutinaries do want to take down the Celestial dragons, the marines must accept the eventual outcome. the marines must be in a position to step in to fill their gap and insure justice is upheld.
Akainnu and Dragon are two sides of the same coin. but they are Still the same coin. What if they are working on seperate sides of the coin? One works to remove the celestial dragons. the other works to take over the marines in a way that the Celestial dragons dont notice, to prepare a foundation of stability after the revolution succeeds. Or as a back up plan if the revolution fails.
No man I appreciate the thoughts you put out there literally its "out there". Idk looking at Garp and Luffy they seem too biologically similarly especially kid Garp and even young adult Garp and Luffy look exactly alike (that may just be Oda's art style though 😅)
Also I'm writing own books and analyzing different character traits and stuff. Even if I did write it all I still wouldn't even know how to publish it. So its neat you did it 👍
Dragon not being Garp's biological son was an old theory of mine which simply came from how Garp introduced Dragon to Luffy. The way he said, "your father" rather than my son stood out to me back then.
But any case thinking about it now. It still makes sense. At this point to me, Oda is pretty much allergic to write a normal blood relationship between parent and a child. It's almost always an adoptive parent instead of blood relative that becomes the real parent.
This happening once or twice wouldn't be striking, since it contains all the positive message. But in One Piece it happens far too many times. Meanwhile the actual blood relations range from non-existent to bad.
But still. Dragon and Garp relationship aside, Dragon being son of Rocks is quite a cool theory I never heard before.
26:08 naaaaaaaaah he doing Crocodile dirty 😂😂😂
Taking this video as another of those philosophical talks, the triangle is very interesting; I also think it's moveable: we are mobile within them. Like some of Kuzan's actions where he leans for justice, or for freedom, and maybe Kizaru would do something on Egghead...
We have a center, and the most interesting thing happens when we move away from it
absolutely, people change.
2 vids in a couple of days!get in there mate! Akainu is basically what we'd call an (Old Boy) it's a term used in boarding school, after leaving and finishing school, or being promoted to a prefect, you stop wearing a (basher which is a strawhat! or school cap. Then for the one's who have left usually wear their old uniform I.e blazer, cap etc
Sun Wukong the monkey king was born from a rock, Monkey D. Luffy the king of the pirates comes from a lineage of 'Rocks'? Certainly some interesting things being said here.
I love all the Bao the whale references everywhere now, make sense she was hilarious before and now that we've seen her...👀
WIPER, AKAINU, HORDY got something in common based on what you said about Hordy and Akainu being blind to what they follow. Wiper was programed by his Elders just like Hordy was programed by the actions of Arlong. We gotta see who programed Akainu
Akainu facing Sunset(west) while Dragon looks east
Dusk vs Dawn
I believe that Sakazuki was adopted by Garp's assistant Bogard based off American actor Humphrey Bogart and Sakazuki speaks with a Hiroshima accent is the closest thing to American accent and I believe Sakazuki's fixation on enemies embedding themselves in the Navy stems from him working in the Internal Affairs divison and Dragon used to work in that unit too but he became disilluioned and quit the marines.
One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!