In stadium design, there's nothing worse than a track around a field. I used to cover high school football in Georgia. The team I covered regularly has an all-time winning percentage of .375 and they were only slightly better the years I covered them. They did have one thing in their favor; no track around the field. Fans were right on top of the field with very little room between the sidelines and the bleachers. The atmosphere at their games rivaled that of some of the state title contenders I covered because of how close the fans were. I felt the difference at 2,000-seat stadiums, I can only imagine the difference at stadiums that seat over 50,000 spectators.
Now imagine this! Serie A stadiums still have THE BEST & LOUDEST atmosphere in EUrope's best leagues (there's also Germany, yes...). Can you imagine what will be like if all stadiums, especially Napoli,Roma, Lazio... also had their new stadiums build?!
Track around a field makes sense if the country does not have a strong football league or really needs to develop its athletics in general, but for a football nation like Italy, that was a folly.
@@jackykwok2376 the problem is that this stadiums are not made by a private or the club, they are made by the government/municipality so they prioritize multipurpose stadiums like this channel said, and when a country like Italy which is not the richest of Europe it makes sense not wanting to spend more on building another stadium
In Napoli, it's about 10 years that president De Laurentis is asking to buy the structure or another new location for the Napoli stadium, but municipalization is refusing every request. Stadio Maradona is owned by Regione Campania and "it will be forever".... How pity.
this happened in other sports too. If your arena doesn't have luxury boxes, and good seats you're doomed. Look at the NBA for example, arenas built before the 90s were completely obsolete by the end of the decade. And some of these didn't last 15 years and were demolished too.
Interesting video. Spain and France seem to lack this issue with municipally owned stadia. Perhaps make a video that contrasts both and the quality approaches taken.
Surely now that they're co-hosting the 2032 Euros, they'll have to modernise some of the grounds or build new stadia. I think a good option for some of them, like Napoli, if engineering and money allow it, is to make the lower stands modular so they can bring them closer to the pitch
Nice video, i always wanted to go to delle alpi, it's was really cool project and unique design, today the stadiums look as the same, destroying classical monumental for "padronization style" for me its like killing the soul of the show, look what they did to maracana in brazil, what they gonna do with camp nou, i think you can do some videos about that.
Both Inter and Milan now need to move out of the control of Milan council area to build new stadiums as not being allowed to demolish the San Siro. Great stadium but it badly needs a make over a la Bernabeu.
Well to be fair the only issue they had with the stadium was that the site they originally chose to build the new stadium was where the San Siro is which to be fair out all of the government owned stadiums is actually quite good and they did not want the stadium built next to the san Siro nor have it knocked down. So both clubs are now moving to the outskirts of Milan in different regions from one another where there is less bureaucracy and cheaper to make with both clubs within this year about to complete the purchase of land for where the new 65K stadiums are going to be built. And again Milan is another Northern Italian city which in general that region of Italy always tends to be more efficient and the more south you go in Italy the less efficient everything becomes.
I always loved these stadiums. The track around the pitch means you can light and throw flares without it going on the pitch. Created an amazing intense atmosphere!
Great video, but definitely could dive deeper into the corruption and scandalous money management of the Italian Football federation, clubs themselves and the local government/municipalities
can u do about Switzerland? we have so many good teams that lacks good stadium and most of them have small capacity. for example in the swiss super league many teams have stadiums that are over 100 years old and low capacity or teams like yverdon sports stadium is an absolute disaster. and many teams planned to build stadium for over 30 years but they are still not built yet...
Watching a football match has become a family vacation thing. I've seen countless Japanese, Korean and Chinese families watching games in Madrid and Barcelona. The facilities are modern and accommodate families easily. They're far from intimidating.
Bro you are full of S-H-I-T and you definitely have not been to one of these stadiums and let me tell you the experience is awful. You need binoculars to watch the game because of how far back you are from the pitch and as a result of a poor match day experience the atmosphere is silent and the stadiums are half empty as well.
In stadium design, there's nothing worse than a track around a field. I used to cover high school football in Georgia. The team I covered regularly has an all-time winning percentage of .375 and they were only slightly better the years I covered them. They did have one thing in their favor; no track around the field. Fans were right on top of the field with very little room between the sidelines and the bleachers. The atmosphere at their games rivaled that of some of the state title contenders I covered because of how close the fans were. I felt the difference at 2,000-seat stadiums, I can only imagine the difference at stadiums that seat over 50,000 spectators.
Now imagine this! Serie A stadiums still have THE BEST & LOUDEST atmosphere in EUrope's best leagues (there's also Germany, yes...). Can you imagine what will be like if all stadiums, especially Napoli,Roma, Lazio... also had their new stadiums build?!
Track around a field makes sense if the country does not have a strong football league or really needs to develop its athletics in general, but for a football nation like Italy, that was a folly.
@@Shteno they do not have the best atmosphere, and the atmosphere in all new stadiums always sucks
@@jackykwok2376 the problem is that this stadiums are not made by a private or the club, they are made by the government/municipality so they prioritize multipurpose stadiums like this channel said, and when a country like Italy which is not the richest of Europe it makes sense not wanting to spend more on building another stadium
In Napoli, it's about 10 years that president De Laurentis is asking to buy the structure or another new location for the Napoli stadium, but municipalization is refusing every request. Stadio Maradona is owned by Regione Campania and "it will be forever"....
How pity.
Well now he said he will build a new one in Bagnoli...but let's hope ..hard to believe
Forza Juve ⚫⚪🇮🇹
@@shahjahanmohammed3582 the Juventus stadiums is more like a child's play ground compared to the other European stadiums
@@pompei1968any news? Will he build one?
@@SchnabeleBarr for the stadium no news .. but he's talking of a new training ground
this happened in other sports too. If your arena doesn't have luxury boxes, and good seats you're doomed.
Look at the NBA for example, arenas built before the 90s were completely obsolete by the end of the decade. And some of these didn't last 15 years and were demolished too.
Multi-purpose stadiums across sport at the elite level died off quickly. Things move fast!
@@Maapify Yep. The A's are the last MLB/NFL to be in a multi-purpose stadium which they will leave at the end of this season
ok but no one cares about Basketball
I live in Italy and I can tell you firsthand, it’ll be a minimum of 40 years before half the country’s teams actually own and modernize their stadiums
You have to do it til 2032 now!!!!!!
@@Schnipp08 the problem is that italy only need to host 5 stadiums, and so basically only 2 or 3 stadiums will get actually upgraded
They need a WM
Really good video about a quite complex question, clear and deep analysys of the situation, congrats from Italy! A new sub well earned💪🏼🇮🇹
Thank you - much appreciated 🙌
Interesting video. Spain and France seem to lack this issue with municipally owned stadia. Perhaps make a video that contrasts both and the quality approaches taken.
09:51 "Some clubs may have to part ways with their local rivals, acting as their ROOMMATE" i never thought it that way tho
@3:55: ..the architect later admitted to never having watched a game of football in his life..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video! Definitely needs more views
Surely now that they're co-hosting the 2032 Euros, they'll have to modernise some of the grounds or build new stadia. I think a good option for some of them, like Napoli, if engineering and money allow it, is to make the lower stands modular so they can bring them closer to the pitch
That’s an extra 300m€, highly unlikely. Just get rid of the running track entirely it isn’t needed for a football venue
excellent video. Thanks for sharing
Nice video, i always wanted to go to delle alpi, it's was really cool project and unique design, today the stadiums look as the same, destroying classical monumental for "padronization style" for me its like killing the soul of the show, look what they did to maracana in brazil, what they gonna do with camp nou, i think you can do some videos about that.
Interesting, thanks for the tip !
Both Inter and Milan now need to move out of the control of Milan council area to build new stadiums as not being allowed to demolish the San Siro. Great stadium but it badly needs a make over a la Bernabeu.
Well to be fair the only issue they had with the stadium was that the site they originally chose to build the new stadium was where the San Siro is which to be fair out all of the government owned stadiums is actually quite good and they did not want the stadium built next to the san Siro nor have it knocked down.
So both clubs are now moving to the outskirts of Milan in different regions from one another where there is less bureaucracy and cheaper to make with both clubs within this year about to complete the purchase of land for where the new 65K stadiums are going to be built.
And again Milan is another Northern Italian city which in general that region of Italy always tends to be more efficient and the more south you go in Italy the less efficient everything becomes.
@@ToxicDarkLordracist... But true lmao
Just discovered this channel… what great analysis
I always loved these stadiums. The track around the pitch means you can light and throw flares without it going on the pitch. Created an amazing intense atmosphere!
Enjoyed the video
Thank you!
Well researched piece. All we have to do is fix Italian politics now.
Great video, but definitely could dive deeper into the corruption and scandalous money management of the Italian Football federation, clubs themselves and the local government/municipalities
That should take a whole video of its own (and a very long one…)
can u do about Switzerland?
we have so many good teams that lacks good stadium and most of them have small capacity. for example in the swiss super league many teams have stadiums that are over 100 years old and low capacity or teams like yverdon sports stadium is an absolute disaster. and many teams planned to build stadium for over 30 years but they are still not built yet...
good vid
Italian football stadiums are horrible ngl. The only stadiums which are good are Juventus, Udinese and Atlanta. But the rest is horrible
Yo great video greetings from frankfurt
Watching a football match has become a family vacation thing. I've seen countless Japanese, Korean and Chinese families watching games in Madrid and Barcelona. The facilities are modern and accommodate families easily. They're far from intimidating.
As a Northen italian but agree with you!! Old and worse Stadium in the World!!
Italy's major stadiums will all get renovated for the Euro's when they co host with Turkey.
Either build new stadiums are redo the stands... no one will make a move!
italian stadiums have soul modern stadiums suck
they have a fucking track around the pitch, it's awful for spectators
Bro you are full of S-H-I-T and you definitely have not been to one of these stadiums and let me tell you the experience is awful. You need binoculars to watch the game because of how far back you are from the pitch and as a result of a poor match day experience the atmosphere is silent and the stadiums are half empty as well.
@@TheGetout04 Surprisingly, an extremely old stadium, San Siro, is the second best Italian stadium behind Juve's stadium. The rest are terrible.
Nah
Stadium crisis ? My friend have you been in the balkans hahahaha