Stella & Beatrix I everything I wanted (Fate: The Winx Saga | Season 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @maryhufflepuff
    @maryhufflepuff  2 года назад +357

    I refuse to accept the season 2 finale😡
    They are both so strong and deserve more❤‍🩹

    • @xdaisy3408
      @xdaisy3408 2 года назад +23

      EXACTLY I thought they would get together in this season 😅

    • @pompom_beagle
      @pompom_beagle 2 года назад +11

      agree 😔💔
      they deserve to be happy without that mess❤️

    • @aobxo
      @aobxo 2 года назад +9

      I believe she’s alive

    • @xdaisy3408
      @xdaisy3408 2 года назад +4

      @@aobxo Yeah, she could be alive because of the ressurection thingy that ressurected dowling but it would only be for a few minutes, and also Beatrix hit her head on stone hard so I don't believe that she would still be alive.

    • @huffepuf3066
      @huffepuf3066 2 года назад +3

      No Stella need Brandon! Period!

  • @aobxo
    @aobxo 2 года назад +1057

    Don’t care what anyone says…their CHEMISTRY together is better than every other character in the show I’m sorry 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @olkka1606
      @olkka1606 2 года назад +7

      Yesss

    • @moykahazel7502
      @moykahazel7502 2 года назад +7

      Yesss ı wanna hear that so badly

    • @prettykiller8306
      @prettykiller8306 2 года назад +3

      I agree 👍

    • @gloriagavagnin2115
      @gloriagavagnin2115 2 года назад +5

      agree. p.s. ship them a lot

    • @guitarsea003
      @guitarsea003 2 года назад

      @Naysnotokaylol ughhh yes. Didn’t find them annoying last season, but this season rapidly changed it 😂

  • @lexie_winner
    @lexie_winner 2 года назад +566

    Beatrix is my fav character. ♥ This season Beatrix and Stella were an amazing duo. I think she will be back since this shadow was over her grave. I hope we will also meet her sisters in season 3.

    • @alesthetix
      @alesthetix 2 года назад +12

      YES SAMEEE

    • @aobxo
      @aobxo 2 года назад +10

      Exactly

    • @anonymousfunko7907
      @anonymousfunko7907 2 года назад +17

      Do you think she will come back evil tho? Idc as long as she comes back but I liked her relationship with Stella and if she comes back evil we will never see them interact again which is the sad part but I want her back so I have to be happy!

    • @lexie_winner
      @lexie_winner 2 года назад +30

      @@anonymousfunko7907 possibly evil or under this Shadow influence. Maybe Stella will safe her or something, I would love that.

    • @anonymousfunko7907
      @anonymousfunko7907 2 года назад +7

      @@lexie_winner That would be awesome just hope they don't have to fight my heart I can't remember if in the cartoon if they ever hated each other

  • @Melissa-i2o
    @Melissa-i2o 2 года назад +332

    Beatrix suffered this whole season and didn't deserve that ending.

    • @nathansbds
      @nathansbds 2 года назад +5

      With this end of season, anyone can be alive in the future so it can be a new beginning and not an ending. We all have different lives, we just need to find them

    • @fathimanuhaa2949
      @fathimanuhaa2949 2 года назад +3

      Bruv she literally betrayed all the fairies

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +4

      @@fathimanuhaa2949 but end up fixing her mistakes and sacrificing herself

    • @fathimanuhaa2949
      @fathimanuhaa2949 Год назад +1

      @@lovely9884 too little too late imo

    • @fathimanuhaa2949
      @fathimanuhaa2949 Год назад

      @totalbinjinshipper4everclo633 Also didn't she like kill some dude in the beginning who works for the principal?????

  • @kathryn9897
    @kathryn9897 2 года назад +132

    Beatrix literally looks like a mix between Madelaine Petsch and Sadie Sink🤩

    • @amberf2110
      @amberf2110 2 года назад +3

      For sure she’s really pretty.

  • @alesthetix
    @alesthetix 2 года назад +135

    STELLATRIX ENDGAME, WAITING FOR SEASON 3

  • @lovely9884
    @lovely9884 2 года назад +282

    I remember a year ago people were calling stellatrix shippers delusional and a crack ship, NOW LOOK AT THEM NOW BEST SHIP IN THE SHOW 🤌🏾🥰

    • @huffepuf3066
      @huffepuf3066 2 года назад +2

      No this is stupid!

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +30

      @@huffepuf3066 why are you even here then?? if u think it’s stupid you shouldn’t be on stellatrix video if you think that, at this point you are just obsessed lol

    • @queeni4199
      @queeni4199 2 года назад +5

      @@lovely9884 Exactly, I shipped them the whole show and people called me crazy and now they still want to deny it but also watch videos of them, it's so funny how people are nowadays

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад

      @@queeni4199 right lmao, they don’t want to accept changes and it’s annoying

    • @huffepuf3066
      @huffepuf3066 2 года назад

      No, I'm in protest! We need Brandon for Stella!

  • @woahkana
    @woahkana 7 месяцев назад +3

    these two literally had the best chemistry out of any of the other main couples that were actual couples on the show.. there was just something about these two that went way beyond the boundaries of anything platonic, they had intense CHEMISTRY 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @marieseewa
    @marieseewa 2 года назад +124

    perhaps this is the real couple that could be in the Winx Saga, because they complement each other and I think in season 3 they will find peace together after all ✨💖🧚‍♂️

  • @olkka1606
    @olkka1606 2 года назад +168

    I want them together. They fit together so well! I think beatrix will come back.

    • @greeksongwriting7097
      @greeksongwriting7097 2 года назад +2

      Stella isn't lesbian

    • @olkka1606
      @olkka1606 2 года назад +16

      @@greeksongwriting7097 A lesbian maybe not a bisexual who knows?

    • @littlemen9917
      @littlemen9917 2 года назад +6

      Stella can be gay like Terra when Terra told Flora and the other Winx accepted her

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +1

      @@Someone-qi1rr except this isn’t Winx this is a Netflix show and it’s not the same thing, stella you aren’t the one who’s gonna decide stella sexuality keep your homophobia to yourself no one asked

    • @torfinnzempel6123
      @torfinnzempel6123 2 года назад +1

      Beatrix, Stella and Dane make a great Triad. And could form tention on the relationship that Stella has to work on to maintain the relationship.

  • @Катерина-е9ш
    @Катерина-е9ш 2 года назад +57

    Я так полюбила Беатрикс..и в моем сердце навсегда это прозрачная пара Стеллы и Беатрикс. Такое ощущение, что они созданы дополнять друг друга. Наверное единственная "пара людей", в чьих взаимоотношениях я действительно увидела химию

  • @marietta3980
    @marietta3980 2 года назад +37

    Every time I see clips about Stella and Beatrix, I cry.😭💗💗

  • @adelina5174
    @adelina5174 2 года назад +9

    gonna watch this video and cry for the rest of my life i hate netflix so much STELLATRIX YOU WILL BE MISSED

    • @maryhufflepuff
      @maryhufflepuff  2 года назад +4

      I'm SO mad at them👺
      it's not fair💔😭

    • @adelina5174
      @adelina5174 2 года назад

      @@maryhufflepuff тільки що побачила що ви теж з України і дуже приємно здивована!!

  • @hk3126
    @hk3126 2 года назад +9

    beatrix is such a good character i cant get enough of her 😩⚡️

  • @katekrayy
    @katekrayy Год назад +6

    damn this is incredibly sad that they decided to cancel this amazing show😭

  • @neveharrop7244
    @neveharrop7244 Год назад +8

    Their chemistry was so amazing I will never forgive them for killing Beatrix of

  • @tvnerd2007
    @tvnerd2007 2 года назад +54

    one of my new fav ships🥺

  • @BeeBlossomEdits
    @BeeBlossomEdits 2 года назад +27

    This is a literal masterpiece at its utter finest!

  • @samanthaelizabeththomas4597
    @samanthaelizabeththomas4597 2 года назад +4

    I love how stella cares beatrix

  • @letstalkaboutit3195
    @letstalkaboutit3195 2 года назад +6

    Beatrix better be coming back because I refuse to accept that we will not see anything more of this insane chemistry

  • @saddiya6082
    @saddiya6082 2 года назад +3

    That song choice was spot on

  • @millersara
    @millersara Год назад +2

    oh my god, this is great! 🥰

  • @mirrorball_12
    @mirrorball_12 2 года назад +39

    I didn't want to comment about them because i knew and still know that brandon x stella fans will/,would come after me, but i LOVED them together, i mean their and rivusa scenes were better than sky and bloom moments. Beatrix will not remains dead, coz she is a crucial part of this. The writers wont make such a blunder and the shadow was over her grave so we never know fingers crossed we get a season 3 with more rivusa and stellatrix moments ✨✨

  • @foreverwizone8223
    @foreverwizone8223 2 года назад +7

    Best chemistry. I hope Beatrix will be brought back from death.

  • @LeonSoarez
    @LeonSoarez 2 года назад +291

    i really want them to be together in the next season but the annoying brandon x stella fans are gonna ruin this relationship 🙄

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +47

      we will fight for this ship we can’t let them ruin it idc, but I love that the writers noticed people who said they wanted stellatrix a year ago and they decided to answer the fans prayers, instead of listening to brandon x stella shippers and they didn’t bring brandon in s2 and make stellatrix happen. at least they listen to us and hopefully they won’t try to ruin them😭

    • @deanw9225
      @deanw9225 2 года назад +13

      They are og couple. And they are iconic ,funny couple. Ofc og winx fans gonna want Brandon. Riven and sky is here brandon is a important character too. Brandella always will be #1 for so many peoples. yall are so stupid its not hart to understand

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +36

      @@deanw9225 it’s a was a heteronormative cartoons for children it’s not that serious my guy and the writers choose to introduce stellatrix instead of brandon in the series despite people asking for brandon they don’t care that much about what people are saying about the og show, the live adaptation isn’t the cartoons it’s not that hard to understand

    • @Jubs_adf
      @Jubs_adf 2 года назад

      @@lovely9884Yes, even because they put the EARTH to be with a woman then...

    • @random_meta
      @random_meta 2 года назад +5

      Loved Brandon and Stella in the cartoon but to be completely honest it's not like their relationship was groundbreaking or anything. Stella and Bellatrix can definitely offer something new.

  • @well_sunny
    @well_sunny 2 года назад +1

    Вразив ваш едіт до мурах, А ПОТІМ ПОБАЧИЛА ЗВІДКИ ВИ!!! найкраща 🌷

  • @mariarinta-rahko958
    @mariarinta-rahko958 2 года назад +8

    They belong together and the video's Incredible

  • @strangefury7174
    @strangefury7174 2 года назад +2

    It's a masterpiece! So good.. 🖤✨

  • @HemoPotter
    @HemoPotter 2 года назад +4

    Finished the last episode today. I can't believe Beatrix was killed😮😢

  • @vdng907
    @vdng907 2 года назад +2

    Какая дружба, вы о чем
    Я уже сижу гадаю как они назовут свою кошку, когда начнут жить вместе
    Прекрасное видео❤
    не думала, что мне необходимо было увидеть Стеллу в желтом в сцене 2:20

  • @justmakingedits337
    @justmakingedits337 2 года назад +8

    this editing is AMAZING! I really can only hope to edit as good as you someday!!

  • @dfhgx7692
    @dfhgx7692 2 года назад +31

    Crying so fucking hard

  • @thek1sses
    @thek1sses 2 года назад +3

    Notice how Bloom legit insulted Beatrix for no reason

  • @murraytianne
    @murraytianne 2 года назад +11

    Beautiful edit of them and Beatrix deserved better 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @jerwer8819
    @jerwer8819 2 года назад +4

    Thank u for this video 🌝🌝

  • @luciapalomares13
    @luciapalomares13 2 года назад +52

    STELLATRIX CANON IN SEASON 3✌🏻🕯

    • @huffepuf3066
      @huffepuf3066 2 года назад +3

      No! 💀

    • @luciapalomares13
      @luciapalomares13 2 года назад +14

      @@huffepuf3066 just respect others opinions🤗🙋🏼‍♀️

    • @sann590
      @sann590 2 года назад +1

      @@huffepuf3066 kkkkkk lol

    • @sann590
      @sann590 2 года назад +12

      @@luciapalomares13 yes..in brazil Stellatrix is sucess

    • @chocoMyCoco
      @chocoMyCoco 2 года назад

      @@sann590 No! 🥴

  • @alexandra000018
    @alexandra000018 2 года назад +7

    Gosh Beatrix is the kind of girl I could actually fall in love with

  • @emellyr.o3048
    @emellyr.o3048 2 года назад +28

    elas seriam um casal e tanto, espero que façam ambas serem lgbt.

  • @r1t445
    @r1t445 2 года назад +5

    Brandon/Stella shippers under this video are pretty pathetic lmao. Imagine having a 7 season show with your ship and a HEADCANON ship with barely 2 seasons is still better and much more popular than your ever was. Funny when you think about it 😹

  • @Hypegreene05
    @Hypegreene05 2 года назад +2

    Beatrix is both damaged and misunderstood.

  • @shinigamis_like_apples4797
    @shinigamis_like_apples4797 2 года назад +8

    I think beatrix might go dark side again if she thinks stella betrayed her by getting together with brandon, or old beatrix will get wiped when shes resurrected? Im really curious how they're gonna make everything play out

  • @mettareyez9793
    @mettareyez9793 2 года назад +6

    I felt the chemistry between them , it was not just a platonic connection, it felt different. The rest of the show was boring. The show was too focused on the dragon flame bs , they forgot everyone else.

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana 7 месяцев назад

      Exactly, I just feel that the show focused more on bloom as she was obviously the main character but Beatrix also had a lot to give she had so much depth and layers to her and she only shared that side with Stella, I truly think that their connection was based on slow burn feelings for one another but it was kind of unspoken between them but Beatrix wanted to be better because of Stella, they never referred to one another as friends so it was clearly something more between them.

  • @Valentinaraven
    @Valentinaraven 2 года назад +3

    My fav is beatrix

  • @strangereactions6
    @strangereactions6 2 года назад +6

    They better be endgame in s3 🥰

  • @aaronpaiva3176
    @aaronpaiva3176 2 года назад +2

    0:15 um pouco triste ver sua amiga rodeada de gente e você sozinha

  • @noahcavalli2762
    @noahcavalli2762 2 года назад +21

    I ship them the same way i shipped SwanQueen. Opposites that are perfect for each other. Hope i dont get queerbaited again ..

  • @stephwiller9089
    @stephwiller9089 2 года назад +3

    I ship it tbh. I hope they find a way to bring her back, they must, I'm sure they will.

  • @daysiganuza7065
    @daysiganuza7065 2 года назад +19

    Siento que Netflix como siempre arruina ala mejores pareja homosexuales y nadie me lo puede negar pero estas dos tienen una gran química así que no me sorprendería que Netflix arruine todo

  • @shahadblink8607
    @shahadblink8607 Год назад

    Season 3?

  • @arielmk7612
    @arielmk7612 2 года назад +2

    We'll finally get Griselda

  • @luizawollmann96
    @luizawollmann96 2 года назад +1

    a amizade delas era tao...

  • @carlossainz_55
    @carlossainz_55 2 года назад

    which effect/filter you use

  • @vitoria8757
    @vitoria8757 2 года назад +4

    Shippo stellatrix 😘😘😘😍🥰😍😍😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍😍🥰🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍

  • @torfinnzempel6123
    @torfinnzempel6123 2 года назад +1

    I hope they spend some time and effort on having Beatrix's polyamory be an issue that Stella has to work through as their relationship develops post resurrection. Stella, Beatrix and Dane will make for a great Triad IF the show has the guts to go there.

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +1

      I love the idea, but someone who is into polyamory can also be fine in monogamous relationships it all depends on the person and boundaries they put in the relationships and Dane and Bea absolutely don’t work now they ended up in very bad terms and stella and Dane never interact it wouldn’t technically make sense.

    • @torfinnzempel6123
      @torfinnzempel6123 2 года назад

      @@lovely9884 yes, and no. A person who is polyamorus being forced into monogamy can be a stresser on their relationship which can lead to the end of the relationship. (You can't help who you love)
      It doesn't matter that Stela and Dane have little interactions with eachother, polyamorus relationships does not automatically mean 3-somes. In fact it is very comon that 1 of the partners lives seperatly from the others. So having a Beatrix-Dane-Stela thruple could help dispel some negative myths.
      Stela coming to learn and accept that she has to share Beatrix's affections with another person could also be a point of personal growth for her as a princess she would be used to being the center of attention in all her relationships, and sharing is hard for the rich and privileged who rarely learn this skill from their parents. Especially in Stela's case since we know how emotionally (and to a certain extent physically) abusive her mother is.
      Lastly this allows Beatrix to continue her own personal development. She has treated her own relationships upto this point as abusive relationships built on 'what can they do for me'. Repairing and restoring her relationship with Dane goes a long way to showing her own emotional maturation.
      Side note, one of the things that disappointed me the most was that Andreas was depicted as a good and loving father to Beatrix, and not abusive. It could have also been used as a spring board to why Stela advocated for Beatrix to the others if she was, say, the only one who knew that Andreas was abusing Beatrix.

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад

      @@torfinnzempel6123 I get what you are saying, but before dan, riven & beatrix were kinda in a monogamous (kinda) relationship and they weren’t any problems either, beatrix may would of just only love stella during their relationship and not someone else but if she would than it makes sense if they end up in poly, maybe beatrix was fine being in neither a Poly or a monogamous relationship she basically just wanted to have fun. I think it all depends on the person and where they situated themselves under poly umbrella and boundaries in the relationship and both agree I guess is all depends .
      Also even if Bea make peace with dane doesn’t mean she’s going to want to be back with him, she accept to be in a poly with him and riven because she mostly care and liked riven and she knew dane was mostly attracted to Riven too and wanted to be with him, idk about Riven feelings for dane but think might was also attracted to him but still wanted to be with bea anyways
      bea and dane never felt like they had anything unless it was for riven, I feel like stella and bea was actually love and affection specially after bea sacrifice for her and her friends she wouldn’t of done this for anyone else in the show. while with dane and Riven it was basically all for fun, but riven and bea still cared about each other and from attachment

  • @dijimon2x855
    @dijimon2x855 2 года назад +5

    if the writers pull it off, they would have a legendary enemies to friends to enemies again to lovers story

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana 7 месяцев назад

      enemies friends to lovers to enemies would’ve been the ultimate trope for these two

  • @seventhdeath
    @seventhdeath 2 года назад +1

    احداث طويله وممله الموسم الثاني ماله داعي ابدًا لو اكتفوا بالاول احسن

  • @АинаАргунова-д2э
    @АинаАргунова-д2э 2 года назад +2

    it would be cool if they became a couple, they look good😻💘

  • @littlemen9917
    @littlemen9917 2 года назад +7

    I can’t accept their finale of Season 2 that’s messed up to my ship of their friendship between Stella and Beatrix

  • @cyntiasilva5264
    @cyntiasilva5264 2 года назад +1

    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @goodforyou
    @goodforyou 2 года назад +2

    Beatrix was my favourite character 😠 bring her back now 😠

  • @raquewalker7751
    @raquewalker7751 2 года назад +1

    Wait so they are both in love?

  • @carolinamarzbookslibros
    @carolinamarzbookslibros 2 года назад +5

    I think their relationship is platonic not romantic what Beatrix need more is a friend and family just like Stella in season 1 and they ostracized even Stella at the end 😢

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 2 года назад +5

      straight up delusional if u think their relationship was just platonic

    • @woahkana
      @woahkana 7 месяцев назад

      @@lovely9884 the fact that they didn’t even refer to eachother as FRIENDS says a lot they had something that was deep and meaningful way beyond the boundaries of anything platonic 😳

    • @lovely9884
      @lovely9884 7 месяцев назад

      @@woahkana literally i remember at the end of season 2 they were showing all the girls with their lovers, and for stella u could see her at beatrix grave, of course they were friends but it definitely had the big potential to go even further and im sure if it wasn’t cancelled it might of went there.

  • @canabereal
    @canabereal 2 года назад +1

    The only reason I was gonna watch season 2 was because of Beatrix cuz she was the only tolerable character in season 1 but now that I know they killed her off. I don't even want to watch it. What a waste of an amazing character

  • @ciciiist
    @ciciiist 2 года назад +1

    Sabía que no era la única que las shipeaba

  • @arinasalvatore8095
    @arinasalvatore8095 2 года назад +1

    I have doubts that they will be a couple,bc Terra is lesbian and Netflix can thing that it can be enough for us....

    • @rrf0112
      @rrf0112 2 года назад +2

      Yes but nobody cares about Terra..

    • @arinasalvatore8095
      @arinasalvatore8095 2 года назад +1

      @@rrf0112 yeah…

    • @deanw9225
      @deanw9225 2 года назад

      @@rrf0112 why because she is not skinny ?? This is disgusting

    • @rrf0112
      @rrf0112 2 года назад

      @@deanw9225 no 😂 i don’t like her character. Don’t care if she‘s skinny or not

    • @victoriastrong5630
      @victoriastrong5630 2 года назад

      @@rrf0112 lmao fr tho

  • @deanw9225
    @deanw9225 2 года назад +3

    Im sorry but beatrix is literally a killer. She is selfish. Just because she died or sacrificed herself not gonna erase her past. Stella deserves a good normal person and it should be Brandon.

    • @mari-emm
      @mari-emm 2 года назад +10

      Stella wasn't always selfless either. She had her selfish moments too, but she's also got her friends around her to encourage her to bring out the best of her.
      Beatrix had literally no one but Andreas and Stella. No, Beatrix's sacrifice doesn't erase anything, but it showed that even she had a good heart in the end, she just probably feel like she'd have a reason to be good.
      We don't even know for sure if Brandon's gonna be in the next season (correct me if I'm wrong) so all we can do is wait and see if she'll get a love interest or not (she might not even want one, which would be ok too)

    • @mariambabar1679
      @mariambabar1679 2 года назад

      yesss and stella wasnt the best too but def beatrix wasnt good and they were more friends and evene then beatrx made it clear it would be her over the school

    • @mariambabar1679
      @mariambabar1679 2 года назад

      @@mari-emm ik but doesnt mtter stella and beatrix were both horrible and beatrix wasnt changing and still remains horrible we shouldnt justify her past and same with stella dont bring up one perons actions to justify the other both remain horrible and arent good and it doesnt matter beatrix had skys dad she had stella she had friends before and couldve made friends too so none of this excuses shit and its nothing

    • @mari-emm
      @mari-emm 2 года назад +5

      @@mariambabar1679 Ofc it all matters, 'cause it's all true, whether you liked Beatrix or not. Like I said: Beatrix's sacrifice doesn't erase her past mistakes, but her sacrifice showed she wasn't completely bad person, 'cause she learned she could choose the good side too.
      She actually couldn't make friends, not real ones, 'cause quite literally no one trusted her. Andreas raised her so yeah, she had a father figure, but before Stella she didn't have friends.
      Also that's called character development and growth: learning from your mistakes and trying to be a better person than you were in the beginning. And that happened to both Stella and Beatrix, so yes: I do believe they deserved some happiness after everything and they managed to give that to each other, so I really can't see the problem

    • @deanw9225
      @deanw9225 2 года назад +1

      @@mari-emm i know you're not comparing stella and beatrix. Stella didn't kill anyone on purpose while having fun. She was just lonely and misunderstood. Beatrix is literally a killer