GPeR - the value pick you need

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

Комментарии • 54

  • @Rob_Turner_UK
    @Rob_Turner_UK 6 месяцев назад +58

    please don't tell anyone about these. We use these all the time

  • @technicalthug
    @technicalthug 6 месяцев назад +12

    The IP68 case seems good for more than just the GPeR itself. It seems like a great solution for protecting connectors in the field where a midline join is required (e.g. a Keystone to Fly-lead connection)

    • @nagi603
      @nagi603 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah, but there were already existing solutions for those from other manufacturers. The GPeR seems more unique.

    • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
      @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@nagi603 Not as unique as you may think. I have like 20 of these cute little poe++ in 5 port din rail Chinese switches, you can even cascade them just like this they are like $12 on aliexpress and they work well. And there are poe powered ethernet extender devices like this, ones that even advertise as being suitable for direct burry, idk if those ones do cascading though perhaps you only get one hop out of it.

  • @logananderson3724
    @logananderson3724 6 месяцев назад +11

    Love the TV at the end.

  • @SiBex_ovh
    @SiBex_ovh 6 месяцев назад +20

    Best MikroTik device who works without Router/Switch/OS xD

  • @TECHDROIDShawn
    @TECHDROIDShawn 6 месяцев назад +4

    I am hoping and praying that you guys come with a OLT as soon as possible. I know that will be the next big product in the mikrotik link off products

    • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
      @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 месяцев назад

      TiBit had some really cute SFP+ XGS-PON / EPON OLT in a standard SFP+ module. Not just a transceiver but the full on OLT in the module. Only did 10km at 128 split but still it could turn any SFP+ port into an OLT. We were close to buying a bunch but ended up going with 60km gear from calix instead. They seem sold out everywhere now. It was custom ASIC so IDK if they ran out and or what. The paring ONT in SFP+ form factor is common these days.

  • @AJAYRAJ-tm4jk
    @AJAYRAJ-tm4jk 6 месяцев назад +1

    I can see them being useful in a way like Extending PoE security camers like when we go past 100 m these will be really helpful I don't think these will be replaced for fiber
    Noone should use these for fiber because I think the latency going off the roof
    These are just like wifi repeaters works for some connections but they are not know for their great latency experience

  • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
    @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 месяцев назад

    These already existed from others, but your price is better and I trust your brand more. V2 will include a voltage booster for unlimited distance when powered from POE++++++++.
    Also people asking about latency, won't be an issue for anything normal, only stuff like PTP would possibly be troublesome.

  • @stevenm45
    @stevenm45 6 месяцев назад +9

    Nice outro ;) Where did you find the audio for that please MikroTik?

    • @mikkio5371
      @mikkio5371 6 месяцев назад

      😂I thought I noticed it alone . Cool way to end it though

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад +4

      Here you go :)
      ruclips.net/video/fjN2EqeDLBo/видео.html

  • @wildorb1209
    @wildorb1209 6 месяцев назад +18

    Fallout Outro?

  • @mctscott123
    @mctscott123 6 месяцев назад +1

    They work wonderfully with any of our WISP radios, including Tarana even.

  • @frag_stone
    @frag_stone 6 месяцев назад +1

    What is with Ethernet latency ? Will it not to long for a normal Ethernet timeout (arp and so on)

  • @fredericklegaspi1153
    @fredericklegaspi1153 2 месяца назад

    can mikrotik gper use for this setup?
    48v gigabit poe switch -->> 75meters cable-->> mikrotik gper-->>75meters cable-->>access point

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  2 месяца назад

      It depends on many factors, but it could be done.

  • @JiriBrejcha
    @JiriBrejcha 6 месяцев назад

    Does this cable still pass NetAlly/Fluke cable test?

  • @dablet
    @dablet 6 месяцев назад +1

    where to buy? not available on amazon.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад +1

      mikrotik.com/buy/

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 6 месяцев назад

    How much POE power can this pass? If I feed this with a POE++ class 4 source (90 watts), will it pass 60 watts to the end point? I'm thinking a single extension to a PTZ camera rated for POE++ 60 watts, but my switches can supply up to 90 watts per port.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад

      The primary use of this device is Ethernet range extension. While it could power a small device, it only supports passive PoE and the maximum current output is 0.7A.

    • @minigpracing3068
      @minigpracing3068 6 месяцев назад

      @@mikrotik thanks. I may still need to grab some of these and power the camera locally.

  • @dataplatter
    @dataplatter 6 месяцев назад

    How smart are these things? Is there a switch chip? Do they digest ethernet frames or will they relay pretty much whatever signal they get on differential pairs, for example AES50?

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, there is a switch chip. It's basically a PoE powered two port switch.

    • @dataplatter
      @dataplatter 6 месяцев назад

      @@mikrotik Thanks for the info

  • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
    @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 месяцев назад

    @MikroTik Please make the mythical ethernet y adapter. Like I know they existed in the 10baseT day with a passive diode based hub but do one with poe but make it small enough so people scratch their heads, like the usb to serial adapters with all the electronics in the regular sized housing.

  • @juri14111996
    @juri14111996 6 месяцев назад +6

    these are no replacement for fiber!
    Never use ethernet between buildings, allways use fiber!!

  • @GrizzLeeAdams
    @GrizzLeeAdams 6 месяцев назад

    Extending copper Ethernet this far usually is a bad idea, and a good reason large network deployments use fiber is for galvanic isolation. Not just because increasing the length of cable means you have more chances of electrical noise ingress, but lightning and even inter-building line voltage and ground potential differences are a concern. Many environments where someone might be tempted to use these would end up being the worst possible places to use them. Manufacturing facilities are one such example where multiple sources and types of incoming line power and diverse grounding conditions exist and copper networking is best to be avoided. Fiber is used to link buildings in corporate and educational campuses, again because of electrical concerns. It may make some sense to use these for PoE IP security cameras, but typically locations where it would make the most sense (parking lot lamp post mounted cameras) are handled by wireless transmission and powered directly from the lighting circuit prior to any daylight sensors to avoid burying additional cables.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад

      Have you watched the video? This is not some passive extender, it is a powered switch with two ports. There are no risks in this case, just like using any other network switch to connect networks.

    • @GrizzLeeAdams
      @GrizzLeeAdams 5 месяцев назад

      @@mikrotik I understand it is an active extender. Again, galvanic isolation is a serious concern when you're reaching the limits of copper ethernet.

    • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
      @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@GrizzLeeAdams The data is isolated in little tiny transformers built into the ethernet sockets (actual physical ones not um other kinds of ethernet sockets). This works because it uses Differential signaling and algorithms that encode data in a way that unacceptably long strings of sequential 0's and 1's are never sent down the line. So data on an ethernet line is galvanically isolated on each end of an ethernet interface.
      I have not disassembled one but if you read the spec sheet you will see a voltage drop between units that far far exceed what you would see from resistance losses if the voltage was just being passed along. They are clearly isolating the voltage from one link to another.
      They have made a good product, and you thinking you know some small bit on the topic are on RUclips talking out your sphincter.

  • @thomaslindell5448
    @thomaslindell5448 6 месяцев назад

    So cool

  • @PerMejdal
    @PerMejdal 6 месяцев назад

    How can there be 210m between two GPeRs?

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад

      If the emitted signals are good enough then GPeR will be able to pick them up after 210 meters of cable, but it is recommended to do lower distances than that as many factors come into play.

  • @hpsfresh
    @hpsfresh 6 месяцев назад

    OK. Like for Soundtrack

  • @rsvidenko
    @rsvidenko 6 месяцев назад

    Nice!

  • @lionelfelix6631
    @lionelfelix6631 6 месяцев назад

    omg thats so cool

  • @FinlayDaG33k
    @FinlayDaG33k 6 месяцев назад +1

    IP68 GPeR? Now divers need a hand signal to indicate not only fish or directions, but also a GPeR.

  • @magnusmoty
    @magnusmoty 6 месяцев назад

    How much?

  • @bucharestcartraffic
    @bucharestcartraffic 6 месяцев назад +4

    or just use a fiber!

    • @mohammedgoder
      @mohammedgoder 6 месяцев назад +1

      Fiber is cheaper than copper now.

    • @chrisleahy7664
      @chrisleahy7664 6 месяцев назад

      The power to go along with it is what costs.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  6 месяцев назад

      PoE over Fiber is now a thing??

    • @bucharestcartraffic
      @bucharestcartraffic 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@mikrotik if you have to push some power to +1km away location and you want to use an Ethernet cable, you are thinking it wrong.

    • @romanandreevich3738
      @romanandreevich3738 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@bucharestcartraffic your arguments are destroyed only by existence of such thing as security cameras.

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping 6 месяцев назад +1

    A bit expensive for a run of the mill PASSIVE PoE extender.

    • @ZiggyTheHamster
      @ZiggyTheHamster 6 месяцев назад

      It's active - it's a PoE powered two port switch which also optionally injects power on one end.

  • @vitaliypro8441
    @vitaliypro8441 6 месяцев назад

    Could you elaborate on why it is not a good idea to insert power where it’s not needed?

    • @egomatthisum
      @egomatthisum 6 месяцев назад

      Some devices are built with out the consideration of geting power injected through the ethernet port. Depending on the design of the device, it could be demaged or destroyed. As 24v passive poe does not require a handshake, but is "always on" you usually need to manually enable/disable it in a switches management interface, or in this case, via jumpers.
      hope this helped

    • @vitaliypro8441
      @vitaliypro8441 6 месяцев назад

      @@egomatthisum passive Poe switches are pretty much a thing of the past unless it’s built specifically for some industrial applications, or some specific application. Most network switches follow 802.3af/at standards, voltage out is auto negotiated and shutdown if not required.
      Looks like Mikrotik has switches with passive Poe In/Out option (aka Poe injector), but those don’t come with power supplies and designed for someone who knows what they are doing