Karnivool is a huge influence for a bunch of these guys as well. And if you like plini and contortionist you would absolutely love David Maxim Micic’s music and piano orchestrations mixed into djent and prog
Just checked out The Contortionist - Trive. Reminded me of these 3 songs: ruclips.net/video/-DuAAmHpGbw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ruxU9cjkmKA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/2bK4aeahcXc/видео.html
Also Polyphia, if you're really into super technical music. Edit: seems like people here have trouble understanding that recommending a band doesn't mean I'm their biggest Stan and think that they shit gold. Polyphia has interesting music. That's it. You are allowed to not like them or think they are overrated or stale. You do not need to let me know, I don't care.
I love seeing when non-metal people start loving the metal I've been listening to for years. There's a whole metal world out there, go free and explore my music lovers 🤘
Any recommendations for people that like sonic variety? I like metal occasionally, but I find that a lot of bands just have one "sound" that they repeat over and over. I get that the point of metal IS the aggression, but I find that I like this aggression more as a flavor than to listen to an entire album of keeping the energy at 11. I also don't like when vocals are ONLY screaming for the same reasons. I like a scream as a sort of release that is built to rather than just being the default. A bit specific, I know, but I have to imagine I'm not alone in my preferences. For reference, some metal bands I listen to sometimes (that don't fit my request always, I know, which is why I only listen sparingly): Gojira, Deafheaven and Mastodon.
@@jorgemartinez42069 I know what you mean about albums having a consistent sound. I do usually like a lot of the songs on a band's album, but I never listen to 'albums', because I want some sonic variety. If I listen to music for a while, I'll make sure that each song is quite different from the listen, often flipping between metal and non-metal. That said, here's some songs I like which you might enjoy. Periphery - Reptile Scar Symmetry - Neohuman Dark Tranquillity - Misery's Crown Before The Dawn - Deathstar Sybreed - A Radiant Daybreak
@@jorgemartinez42069 well, if you're asking, Leprous is my all-time fav "metal" band because I don't see them being bound by metal's rules (hell, they're even more proggressive rock than anything in the last two albums) I'd reccomend starting with the album Malina. It's no my favorite per se but it's a really good place to start listening and understand the "Leprous Sound"
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I mean, I can make a guitar or saxophone make interesting noises by dropping it down a flight of stairs, but that doesn't mean I want those sounds in my music all the time. But some people might. So you do you.
@@Prophes0r it's a vocal style like any other, say Mongolian throat singing being another, different strokes for different folks, I myself am not into opera, nothing against it just don't really like the vocal style that much
@@lightningmonky7674 I wasn't disagreeing about it being valid. I was disagreeing about appreciating it. If you like it, you do you. For me, it causes the same physical reaction as nails on a chalkboard, which ruins the experience. But there is room enough in the realm of music for everyone.
@@Prophes0r I would say screaming is far more comparable to playing a guitar through an amplifier with distortion. Throwing it down a flight of stairs would produce a precussion sound, not a specific pitch. And both in screaming and electric distortion, there's a large number of varieties of it, to suit different tastes. A scream could be a wail from Bruce Dickinson or a growl from George Fisher, guitar distortion could be a clean reverb from the likes of BB King, or it could be djent. Metal has a lot of subgenres (too many in fact, some people make it a full time job to come up with names for genres which encompass like two bands which are *slightly* different from everyone else, after all if there's too many people into your specific musical niche it's not edgy any more) and not every metal fan likes all of them. In fact there's a lot in the whole "extreme metal" world that has far from universal appeal which goes beyond the screaming or the djent. Some people aren't interested in the near total lack of melody or the constant references to mother raping, for example.
I hate when people shove metal music down throat when they say they don't like it... Personally i think metal is to noisy but i have learned to tolerate it.
Have you heard of Badbadnotgood? They’re a jazz group from Canada that has some cool tunes, I especially like when they feature a vocalist on such songs as Nervous, Time Moves Slow, In Your Eyes.
Bro, believe me when i say that you're missing a lot. Listen to the Hu, a Mongolian band. They're pretty awesome and a good introduction to Mongolian folk music. Also listen to Death Grips for something more based on rap, they are one of the weirdest bands out there. Also check Clowncore, you ARE going to love them.
I love Caligulas horse! My favorite song is “this city has no empathy (your sentimental lie)” and is what got me into them then Spotify recommended leprous and other bands
“Colors” by Between the Buried and Me is a phenomenal album. Lots of influences from several genres (yes, including jazz). I always felt like there is a heavy Bach influence as well.
@@yourrealdad9442 I am not super into metal but I will enthusiastically listen to anything by Opeth (heavy or not). I am probably not a typical example though. The music is superb and Mikael's vocals are pristine, the best quality in both singing and growling, imo. Like, you may not love post impressionist art in general, but who doesn't appreciate Van Gogh, yeah?
Checking out The Contortionist now, feels like a heavy Explosions in the Sky cross with Deftones.. Glad to be exposed to a band I would of never found on my own.
Contortionist, TesseracT and Periphery will always carry the genre for me. Innovation, atmosphere and execution are what define these bands. Like he said, the sound my ears were craving for in the genre
I think Opeth might tip you over into "okay, harsh vocals are cool" territory. Listen to their 2005 album Ghost Reveries, if you never have, or one of their newer albums (though Mikael's gotten away from harsh vocals since 2011's Heritage).
I came to the comments to see if anyone mentioned Opeth. Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park are two of my favorite albums in the entire metal genre, hands down.
I love the contortionist. Also: Leprous, Animals as Leaders, TesseracT, Devin Townsend, Plini, Haken, Periphery, Intervals, Polyphia, Karnivool, ... The harmonies in these are all so good, the rhythm, melodies, it's so satisfying. *I really would love it if you took a listen to Nighttime Disguise by Leprous.*
As for introductory songs from this list I say sprite by devin townsend, cockroach king by haken, plini is a free for all. Edit: also harlequin forest by opeth is an amazing journey to listen to (the whole ghost reveries album is amazing).
@@MetroidChild Yeah I love haken, but generally it's not the band I recommend to newbies. It's an acquired taste, a bit out there. I love the Mountain, but Affinity might be more of a mainstream-like entrypoint I would say.
@@barmetler I was thinking from the eyes of a jazz musician like our boy Charles, the leap is way smaller than for someone who doesn't listen to either metal or jazz.
You should definitely check out Haken. Tons of jazz influence in their music, but as a prog band they pull from lots of different sources. Also love seeing some of my favorite bands throughout this video!
I remember when I first enrolled into a music school, and there were so many elitists who wouldn't listen to metal.. When us metal musicians would listen to everything, so many people couldn't get past the heavy sound or vocal style. It's great when people finally open up and give every genre a chance.. There are high chances that you'll love it. For me the genres that took me a long while to get into were country and rap.. But now I find myself listening to artists from both genres because there's musical aspects that draw me in. For Jazz it makes more sense, since you're going from complex to complex. I've always been inspired by Orchestral soundtracks, and when I write music I always want to emulate that with more aggression and distortion.
My primary genre is metal, particularly metalcore, by leaps and bounds, but I've always enjoyed jazz and while growing up I had a strong distaste for classical, I've grown to love it just as much as jazz, all for the same reasons I love metal so much. But those are really the only genres I can truly enjoy and find joy in listening to. I haven't really tried folk and similar genres to be fair, so there's likely some musical complexity there that I'd enjoy, but most other genres I don't really care for, and I CANNOT get into country and especially rap/hip-hop. Popular as they might be, I've found nothing that excites the musician within me and I find the lyrics to be generally very distasteful.
@@ThatBeTheQuestion Dunno about country music, it all sounds whiny and self-obsessed to me, but in terms of hip-hop could be you're listening to all the wrong things. I'd recommend artists like A Tribe called Quest, Mos Def, Common, Black Thought, Queen Latifah and the like, and I'm not even that much into hip-hop. I'm a grunge/metal person myself but there are some truly amazing stuff put out by hip-hop artists. Danger Mouse's new album is frigging amazing, and Mos Def's Black on Both Sides is one of my fav albums.
The Art of Dying by Gojira. The album it's on re-introduced me to my love of metal. The 'deathgrowls' on the album are a bit more my taste than some of the other metal vocal styles.
If you like Jazz-influenced metal, you should totally check out the band I play sax in: Rivers of Nihil. We just did a US tour with The Contortionist where they played "Language" and "Exoplanet" in full, and the other bois just did a European run right after. Little darker and more emotional than analytical at most points, but check em out!
Where Owls Know My Name and Home were the songs that got me into RoN, The Void from Which No Sound Escapes being my all time favorite song. You guys are so good!! We really need more sax in metal songs, they give such a unique layer to the music.
So happy to see Plini and The Contortionist AND Periphery here! Thank You Scientist, Devin Townsend, Polyphia, TesseracT, VOLA, Twelve Foot Ninja, Intervals, Opeth, Gojira, so many more examples of complex musicianship of progressive metal subtypes.
Contortionist is amazing! Definitely check out their album Clairvoyant, and give yourself the opportunity to listen to it front to back with headphones.
I really think you should check out Tesseract! I genuinely think Acle Kahney is a musical genius, his work writing long form songs that sound cohesive and then doing that over the span of an album is just mind boggling and you’d love it!
This video allowed me to discover The Contortionist, which was how I first got into metal. From there, I discovered a similar band called TesseracT who have been my favourite band since I found out about them nearly a year ago. Their music has had such an impact on me and on my own composition, and had it not been for this video, that never would have happened. So thank you, please keep making amazing videos. 🤘
I really recommend checking out Thank You Scientist. They’ve got this wonderful fusion of jazz, metal, and so many other genres that makes their songs so catchy and compelling. Despite being pretty quirky sometimes, they’re actually really accessible for those trying to get into metal. Plus Tom Monda is an absolutely AMAZING guitarist, even for a genre with as much stiff competition as progressive metal. Everyone involved in this band is so talented. Also love seeing all these recommendations for Haken and Caligula’s Horse, they’re fantastic as well!
I came down to these here comments to make the same comment. I'm glad someone beat me to it! Thank You Scientist are so good, a mix of progressive rock, progressive metal, and jazz fusion that sounds so, so good
You can’t even imagine the smile that came to my face when the first song you called out was Thrive by The Contortionist. This is probably my favorite song by probably my favorite band and I’ve never heard anyone else call it out by name. Great video dude!!
Yeah Tessy is where it's at (lol my propic). I think compositionally Exile is their best written song though some others have more sentimental value to me (Retrospect, Acceptance just to name a couple).
@@grwheeler1982 dude i'm so glad i saw your comment. I just added a few of their songs on Spotify and plan to explore their catelogue. they remind me a little of Corpsegrinder's side group Paths of Possession.
A bit of a hard one, but I would recommend Opeth. The riffing in, especially their first 5 or so albums is utterly unmatched. And the melodic components of some of their later albums are just totally unique and utterly beautiful.
Haven't seen it listed yet, but Devin Townsend is an absolute god-send of a musician! Massive compositions, prog beyond belief, and even some humour to boot. Can't go wrong with "Hevy Devy"!
Came to say this exactly. It's complicated to choose where to start, I guess it depends on the goal. Deconstruction is definitely among the proggiest as an album in general. Epicloud might be a bit more digestible while still being heavy as hell, the epicness of it all making it mich more emotionally engaging. Even some SYL things would be fitting though, "Almost Again" really feels like the stepping stone from SYL to DTB and DTP, which I think also makes it super interesting to check out. It's a complicated thing to approach due to the stylistic breadth of everything that beautiful canuck lunatic has done. I'd imagine a few months of listening and building a feeling for what he's doing before actually making a video about him. Though just some thoughts on Ziltoid or Z² would also be awesome. 😄
I'm so glad Plini got a mention and a feature. The first time I heard Plini come on at work I had to stop working to figure out what I was listening to. Electric Sunrise released soon after and that album changed my life for sure.
Randomly had Plini Selenium Forest suggested by Spotify after playing some other stuff and it swept me off my feet. Plini definitely is one of my go to's for this kinda music
When Plini did the Quad Cortex debut with Pan, For me was the ultimate song on his career (i have quiet a long time withouth listen his music). Man, what a Song.
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Haken has written some of the most creative compositions in Progressive Metal since Dream Theater gave rise to what we consider the genre today, and I am absolutely in love with a whole lot of what they have done.
You got me hooked on The Contortionist. I had never heard them before, but this is right up my alley. “Language” has become one of my favorite albums. Thank you.
I've been in love with Jinjer in the metal realm these last few years. I love their odd signatures and frequent time changes. Their vocalist is phenomenal as well. I like Pisces, Vortex, I Speak Astronomy, among others.
Between The Buried And Me. Easily one of the coolest bands who integrate pretty much every genre of music you can imagine at least a little bit, some of their songs just break into jazz tunes halfway through just for the fun of it but it often fits so well, the guitar, drum, synth, and even bass work are on a completely different level. Their album “Colors” is probably one of the most beautiful and complex metal pieces and it is just a masterpiece.
Highly recommend Between the Buried and Me. Every member is so technically skilled, and they mix all sorts of different styles together. Super prog, super metal. Dope stuff
@@meatsticktwinkie5508 I hope you saw them last year because they played two entire sets. One was a 20 year anniversary set and the other was the great misdirect in it’s entirety
We were all packed up and literally about to leave to play an opening set for BTBAM, and got word the show was cancelled because the other bands singer was sick. Other band was Comeback Kid, who I had never even heard of at that time. Such a massive disappointment... especially because BTBAM was that bands biggest influence. Not even sure if their second record was out yet, but it was definitely before Alaska.
The way you feel The Contortionist is how I wished all my friends who I showed this album would respond. This is my exact reaction to this album. To this day, one of the best metal albums ever
Even after years of listening to weird, crazy metal stuff, when I first heard Psychopomp, I was SHOOK. Stranger heads is a masterpiece from front to back, IMO
Terraformer is unreal. Each song on there (except for maybe the title track) is a contender for my favourite track of all time, period. If I had to choose, it would probably be Everyday Ghosts...
Steven Wilson with Porcupine Tree is my go to for odd times and mental rhythms. Prog storytelling at its finest. The drummer Gavin Harrison is one of the best in the business 👌
Animals as leaders - tooth and claw Tesseract - nocturne Haken - 1985 Between the buried and me - extremophile elite Karnivool - Goliath Leprous - nighttime disguise
Dream Theater's "Breaking All Illusions" for the variety of sound and their "Scenes from a Memory" album for beautiful musical motifs servicing an album-spanning murder mystery story. Korpiklaani for introducing me to folk metal, particularly "Vodka," "Iievan Polkka," and "Pellonpekko." And some of the best metal is the kind that doesn't take itself too seriously. Dream Evil's jitterbug/swing metal song that rhymes "beast" with "east" **twice**, "H.M.J."
Korpiklaani is one of the best folk-metal bands in my opinion. Most folk-metal bands I hear lean heavily towards black metal (like Moonsorrow) or are more folk than metal (such as Heilung), and Korpiklaani is the only band I’ve heard that is non-blackened folk metal. I know there are other bands that don’t do the “blackened folk metal” sound, but they don’t seem as common.
Hey Charles, you could totally make this a series. Having people send you a playlist to try and convince you of the appeal of certain genres that you wouldn't otherwise listen to. I think that would be really cool.
I absolutely love The Contortionist, what a band. Tool, Karnivool, Tesseract, Mastodon, Opeth, Meshuggah are other favorite bands of mine who dabble in this for sure 🤘 I think I got stuck in the progressive genres after hearing Lateralus for the first time, or maybe Sound Awake by Karnivool. Finding this channel and video felt like home instantly!
Lateralus was the song that got me into prog.... took me many listens to realise that Danny Carey hadn't, in fact, screwed up the timing. That's when my mind blew...
I'm so happy to see someone else appreciating Plini. Discovered him a year ago, and I'm fully invested. I'll throw in some suggestions for Dream Theater and Opeth as great bands to check out
Since I haven't seen it from anyone else, I've gotta recommend VOLA. They're a progressive metal band that flirts heavily with other genres and absolutely kill it (see Ruby Pool). The stuff you talked about liking in the video made me think of the breakdown on The Same War and the chorus on Starburn, both from their first album. I love what they do with rhythm and harmony, and their unique sound!
I would recommend Leprous - The Sky Is Red. There are really good live performance and drum playthrough videos! I just personally love Leprous' songs, and think you might enjoy some of them too.
I'm the inverse as you. I started out full on metal, then discovered Pat Metheney and Alan Holdsworth, and then jazz became a full time obsession for me. The crossover happening between the genres these days is everything I've ever wanted in music.
Same here. Became tired of all these youtuber guitarists and bands too. Obsessed with Joe Pass, Wes Montgomery, George Van Eps, and Pat Martino. I don't think I'll come back.
My Favorite is Haken. There’s a ton of the Djent influence but also a ton of jazz influence, with some interjections of straight up jazz in their songs. They play a lot of insanely cool melodies, fast scales, and arpeggiated figures that are incredibly technical while being incredibly beautiful. I couldn’t recommend them enough!
I’ve only listened to The Mountain, that album blew my mind a few times and I’ve been meaning to listen to more. Been a big Tool fan for many years and no other band compares imho but Haken’s legit
Opeth is a progressive metal band that started as death metal. At this point, they’re making very interesting music, with many jazz notes mixed with metal. If you listen, I’d suggest “The Baying of the Hounds.”
Technically, they are only death metal because of Akerfeldt's growls. Everything else is just a bunch of mixes. If you know the basics of the metal genres you'll notice they always have been inspired by folk music (all the 3 and 6 in the time signatures, the acoustic guitars and some piano passages), and mainly by black metal (the reason why they are the self proclaimed "most evil band" of the world).
"Metal" musicians have been, am and will be S tier musicians. The modern metal musician is insane in both the mechanics of playing the instrument, theory, music production, tones, conveying ideas. I'm so in awe of so many musicians in the modern metal world and I can't wait for what the future brings us. I LOVE the fact that EDM elemnts is making it's way into metal. Keep up the great content Charles.
The harmonies on Language are truly unmatched. It’s jaw-dropping stuff, even 8 years later. I can’t think of another metal record with such a cohesive, careful craft of gorgeous harmony, melded with mind-melting production and guitar riffs. Not to mention the rhythmic structures being just complex enough to be interesting, but never too insane to put off more casual listeners
I had never listened to the Contortionist before until I saw them open for Between the Buried and Me on their Colors tour, fall of 2017. In my opinion, they stole the show. I went home and listened to Language, and immediately fell in love. I remember thinking, okay, this album starts out strong, but there will be a dud sooner or later. But it just kept getting better and better as the album went on. It will always be one of my favorite albums of all time.
I would like to say as a non music theory, self taught guitarist and fairly new metal head, as it were; Charles and some of you here have been putting into practical terms, why I fucking love all these bands and the genres and sub-genres that encompass their music, and that's pretty wild.
Language is such a beautiful album, it got me into The Contortionist as a whole project and to this day still holds up as well as it did the day it released to my ear. Excellent taste.
I remember seeing them years ago at a festival, shortly after Tomas had had his spinal surgery for a compressed nerve root, which was slowing his left foot enough to interfere with his playing. His drum tech filled for most of the set, but like 3 weeks post surgery Haake played Bleed for the encore. Holy shit, what a drummer
The problem with bleed is it's literally one pattern. It's just the herta under a 4/4. Yes it's incredibly difficult (I sure can't play it), but that's all it is. Once I had someone describe Meshuggah to me as "rhythm exercises with vocals" I couldn't listen to them anymore lol
@@HonkeyKongLive I don't agree with you. Indeed the song is not that complex. But it's still crazy, and the modd is so strong. Complexity doesn't make good music. Strong ideas make good music.
This is an obvious choice for a recommendation, but I really suggest you check out Thank You Scientist. They’re one of my favorite bands. They combine prog metal and jazz fusion in a way that just works so well
YES YES YES PLEASE I want him to cover this band more than anything in the world. He would absolutely fall in love with Mr. Invisible and the rest of their amazing songs, god I want this so badly please charles listen to this band.
Loved the video! One of my biggest influences is Dream Theater. Mike Portnoy made a breakdown video of the changing time signatures of Dance of Eternity. It really shows how intricate prog metal can get.
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This guy needs to check out Car Bomb. Their drummer has a strong jazz background and they draw inspiration from different jazz techniques he uses as part of his warmup and practice to write songs with strange time signatures that grooves in a way you didn't think was possible.
"In Contact" by Caligula's Horse is a 10/10 prog album. Really melodic, amazing harmonies and a brilliant fantasy story behind the lyrics that make me feel like I'm in another world. Nothing compares
+1 for Car Bomb. Check out Meta first imo. When he was talking about nodding along and losing the downbeat, one of my favourite memories of live music is seeing Car Bomb play and watching a whole crowd nodding their heads, losing the downbeat, and simultaneously realising they were lost and trying to catch up.
If you haven't yet, check out Jinjer. The standard first 'reaction' is on Pisces, the live session. I'd start there... Incredible musicians, known for constantly switching time signatures and mashing up genres (pretty much all integrated into metal). Truly incredible artists!
@@serket6807 Definitely can't go wrong with those two choices. "Vortex" is my personal favorite of theirs, both the song and the music video. It's just got everything: clean singing, killer growls, tight as hell rhythm section, and super crunchy riffs.
I haven't seen anyone mention Cloudkicker, incredible riffs and rhythms that blend metal with post-rock. I think you'd really dig his most recent album
Cloudkicker were a VERY welcome recommendation from Spotify. Absolutely blew me away with how heavy yet chill it is at the same time. Masterful composition for what they were going for
I was listening Cloudkicker's song % one night when i received a call that my friend had just passed away .whenever i i think of him i have to listen to Cloudkicker .
Got pulled into this genre by my dad from a very young age. His CD collection contained a lot of: Dreamtheater, liquid tension experiment, transatlantic, flying colors, sons of Apollo and neal morse.
As a metalhead who enjoys Jazz, Devin Townsend is the man for you, from beautiful and light chill songs and a whole jazz album (the puzzle) to the devilry that is Strapping young lad and everything in between. I think you might enjoy Hypocrisy, self titled and The final chapter albums, more slow melachonic vibes.
I second anything Devin Townsend-- Devin Townsend Band, Devin Townsend Project, all of the above really. I'd also recommend In Flames for some "melody amongst the noise" And a shout out to Protest the Hero for complex math metal type stuff.
I have Devin Townsend’s “Empath” on vinyl and it’s one of my all time favorites to listen to on a record. That album is such an experience and to listen to it all at once in that setting is amazing. It’s a masterpiece
@@JoeMama-ul5lq "Through the heaven, through the field Shine forever, shine on me A golden future is strong and free I'll shine for you if you shine for me If you can't shine for you friend Please shine for me!"
a thousand percent agree with Devy. I'm not sure how he would react to SYL but I'm positive the DTP stuff would be right up his alley, ESPECIALLY the Deconstruction album
Instrumental prog metal is some of my favourite music. Just to name a few plini, animals as leaders, I built the sky, intervals, polyphia. All really incredible bands
I would unironically recommend Charles listen to some Death, especially "Sound of Perseverance" - while I don't think he'd be a particular fan of the vocals, there are some really interesting experimentations with polyrhythms and just weird stuff that I think he might appreciate
I love how you experiment and diversify your tastes with your audience! Something that helped me as a classical vocalist start to appreciate harsh vocal styles was an approach to them not necessarily as "singing" so much as a rhythmic instrument. A lot of bands are great lyric writers, but the first things that most listeners notice are the rhythmic timings and the relative pitches. As you listen, pay attention to how some vocalists use different techniques in coordination with textural changes or lyrical cues. It really deepened my appreciation for the craft.
Heavily reccomend Vildhjarta, their music feels like a next step in the evolution of the style that Meshuggah brought us. Absolutely insane band with crazy use of time and melodies.
Charles you really have to look into Yvette young and her band covet she’s math rock musician but she fuses all these different genres so well with these intricate voicings using tapping and finger style techniques as well as her lyrics just full of emotions
Tool Lateralus is a great prog album and the track that has the same name as the album uses an abreviated Fibonacci sequence and they have toured with meshuggah. King Crimson Construction of Light is also another great prog album you could check out.
A tune you should check out is Straws Pulled at Random by Meshuggah. It starts really heavy and complex, with the lyrics talking about the uncontrollability of life and inevitability of death but in the end of the song it goes into a really beautiful, melodic jazzy solo that gives a much more optimistic end to it all. Masterful track.
Some of this reminds me of the group Haken, especially their album “The Mountain.” Prog with djent influences and heavy jazz elements, lots of complex meters, not so heavy that they sacrifice lyricism or melodic content.
I feel like you should definitely check out Between the Buried and Me, specially their newest album Colors II. That album is a microcosm of everything you talked about in this video
It's a great song but not at all what I'd recommend. Breaking All Illusions would be a good first DT song for him. The first verse is so tasteful, melodies soaring, and the solo is legendary.
I am always impressed by the way he talks about music but just casually snapping a dotted eight note rhythm on one hand over a steady quarter note beat on the other hand 🤯
Bleed is the most hypnotic song I've ever heard. My eyes glaze over every time i hear it. I don't normally like screaming either but I really like that song
I recommend everything combining rock and jazz( fusion, math rock, etc). You should definitely check Polyphia, Covet, and even things from Ichika Nito in general, but specifically Ichikoro!
It's so gratifying to watch this video, as an avid listener and lover of The Contortionist, Plini, Scar Symmetry and so many other great musical geniuses that wholely go unnoticed in today's musical climate, hearing your praise of my favorite musicians and songs is doing amazing things for my self esteem lol thank you for the content! Please keep it coming. As someone trying to learn the piano this channel continually inspires me.
Leprous, though less metal these days, are phenomenal and worth checking out. Caligula's Horse and The Ocean Collective as well! The harsh vocals I can completely relate to - they took me years to get used to. I spent years getting used to Devin Townsend before I started to appreciate other forms (he's still the master). I think you'd enjoy looking into Devin's work - he often sees sounds as colours and writes as if he's painting a picture and I think that'd be very interesting for you to decompose.
another genre that i would love to see you break down is math rock/jazz rock. Its very similar the genre that the songs you break down are in, but often with softer instrumentation. one band that I've been adoring over recently is toe and their album "the book on my idle plot on a vague anxiety". would love to see you break it down. keep up what you're doing man love your videos
Yo that album is so good. The drum sound especially :) If you like that, I recommend you listen to Uchu Conbini - 8 films, Hyakkei - Kagerou Railway, A Picture of Her - 1992
Karnivool is an old favorite. Masters of odd groove and polyrythm while keeping everything in the comtext of a song. Animals as leaders can be harder to grasp but theyre in another class of technicality
Hey Charles, I've seen people mention a few awesome projects already (Animals as Leaders, Devin Townsend Project, Gojira, Opeth) but I'd like to add Ne Obliviscaris to that list. They have a lot of elements of that rythmic and melodic intricacy that you enjoyed from The Contortionist. Hopefully you'll enjoy them if you get to listening to them!
One of my favourite realisations I had, coming from Metal, getting into Jazz and then going back, was realising that Contortionist's second album, Intrinsic, is just a Jazz Fusion record. Gave me an even bigger appreciation for them and what they do, even with Exoplanet still being one of my favourite albums of all time
I was wondering why "Thrive" was giving me some heavy Cynic vibes, then I checked the year. Pure contemporaries, along the same timeframe as the start of The Devin Townsend Project as well. Two metal performers that I fell in love with working on their music for Rock Band Network. As little I am a metalhead, I could always use more of this style in my life.
well, "most influential" is kinda subjective as I'd say in my prog metal/djent circles Traced in Air is the big one, but not only that but the majority of Cynics work is post '08, so functionally all three bands were working in similar spaces and around the same time. I still think there is a lot of old heads who will bristle at saying they are contemporaries, though for sure. Focus was a big deal as I understand it.
I'll admit that post-'08 Cynic is the Cynic I'm most familiar with, and I've neglected taking the time to explore the back catalogue so that's entirely on me.
@@xxnarnarnarxx Just gave it a listen, I can definitely see the craftsmanship of the later albums formed from the very beginning and how the blend of styles becomes genre-defining. The album's comparatively erratic in almost a threatening way, unlike the more ponderous kind of shifts that I hear in Carbon-Based Anatomy for example. As much as I prefer the newer stuff, Focus was certainly a worthwhile listen!
Since you're into metal now, I would highly recommend Scar Symmetry. Brutal and super cool progressive metal. Impressive singer who both growled and sang, heard they had to replace him with 2 singers.
Hey Charles, I absolutely love Haken's album The Mountain and I reccomend you check out the song Falling Back To Earth. Also, Impulse Voices by Plini is brilliant all the way through, Pan and Papelillo being two fantastic songs that I highly recommend if you haven't already listened to them.
PLEASE go check out music from any of these groups if you can. They're incredible.
Gotta check out The Red Chord, man.
I’m sure you would like persefone too !
Karnivool is a huge influence for a bunch of these guys as well. And if you like plini and contortionist you would absolutely love David Maxim Micic’s music and piano orchestrations mixed into djent and prog
Just checked out The Contortionist - Trive. Reminded me of these 3 songs: ruclips.net/video/-DuAAmHpGbw/видео.html
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I'm loving the new camera angles Charles, really going above and beyond!
Animals As Leaders would definitely be right up your ally. Tosin is a master at guitar
Also Polyphia, if you're really into super technical music.
Edit: seems like people here have trouble understanding that recommending a band doesn't mean I'm their biggest Stan and think that they shit gold. Polyphia has interesting music. That's it. You are allowed to not like them or think they are overrated or stale. You do not need to let me know, I don't care.
If you're looking into AAL, definitely also look into T.R.A.M. which is a proper jazz fusion project with Tosin and co.
@@matthammond3563 THIS!
@@GaviLazan 😂 technical guitar for sure but technical “music” 🤨
Also because it's basically Metal if Bach would've written it
I love seeing when non-metal people start loving the metal I've been listening to for years.
There's a whole metal world out there, go free and explore my music lovers 🤘
Any recommendations for people that like sonic variety? I like metal occasionally, but I find that a lot of bands just have one "sound" that they repeat over and over. I get that the point of metal IS the aggression, but I find that I like this aggression more as a flavor than to listen to an entire album of keeping the energy at 11. I also don't like when vocals are ONLY screaming for the same reasons. I like a scream as a sort of release that is built to rather than just being the default.
A bit specific, I know, but I have to imagine I'm not alone in my preferences. For reference, some metal bands I listen to sometimes (that don't fit my request always, I know, which is why I only listen sparingly): Gojira, Deafheaven and Mastodon.
@@jorgemartinez42069 I know what you mean about albums having a consistent sound. I do usually like a lot of the songs on a band's album, but I never listen to 'albums', because I want some sonic variety. If I listen to music for a while, I'll make sure that each song is quite different from the listen, often flipping between metal and non-metal. That said, here's some songs I like which you might enjoy.
Periphery - Reptile
Scar Symmetry - Neohuman
Dark Tranquillity - Misery's Crown
Before The Dawn - Deathstar
Sybreed - A Radiant Daybreak
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@@jorgemartinez42069 well, if you're asking, Leprous is my all-time fav "metal" band because I don't see them being bound by metal's rules (hell, they're even more proggressive rock than anything in the last two albums) I'd reccomend starting with the album Malina. It's no my favorite per se but it's a really good place to start listening and understand the "Leprous Sound"
I’m not even reading your comments… I’m just here to go…
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So happy to see the Contortionist mentioned. They're wildly underrated.
Language is a masterpiece
i had the pleasure of seeing them live in like 2014 and they KILLED it
They’re probably among my favourite bands of all time, if not my all time favourite.
Absolutely love everything they’ve released. Them, Haken, and Leprous are easily among my top bands of all time.
One of the greats in my book, phenomenal live and super cool to chat with if you find them by the merch booth
When it comes to screaming once you view their voice as an instrument it’s art
I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
I mean, I can make a guitar or saxophone make interesting noises by dropping it down a flight of stairs, but that doesn't mean I want those sounds in my music all the time.
But some people might. So you do you.
@@Prophes0r it's a vocal style like any other, say Mongolian throat singing being another, different strokes for different folks, I myself am not into opera, nothing against it just don't really like the vocal style that much
@@lightningmonky7674 I wasn't disagreeing about it being valid. I was disagreeing about appreciating it. If you like it, you do you. For me, it causes the same physical reaction as nails on a chalkboard, which ruins the experience. But there is room enough in the realm of music for everyone.
@@Prophes0r fair enough I can take that without blowing a fuse
@@Prophes0r I would say screaming is far more comparable to playing a guitar through an amplifier with distortion. Throwing it down a flight of stairs would produce a precussion sound, not a specific pitch.
And both in screaming and electric distortion, there's a large number of varieties of it, to suit different tastes. A scream could be a wail from Bruce Dickinson or a growl from George Fisher, guitar distortion could be a clean reverb from the likes of BB King, or it could be djent. Metal has a lot of subgenres (too many in fact, some people make it a full time job to come up with names for genres which encompass like two bands which are *slightly* different from everyone else, after all if there's too many people into your specific musical niche it's not edgy any more) and not every metal fan likes all of them. In fact there's a lot in the whole "extreme metal" world that has far from universal appeal which goes beyond the screaming or the djent. Some people aren't interested in the near total lack of melody or the constant references to mother raping, for example.
That "Thrive" song SLAPS so hard
Looking forward to your commentary video heh.
whole album slaps, Language by the Contortionist
If you want another like it, try The Parable from the same album - absolutely RIPS
Shredmaster Scott getting into contortionist????? Please God let it be true
I only listen to metal, nothing else. But content creators like you, made me appreciate jazz and even learn some music theory.
czeslaw - i feel exactly the same
I hate when people shove metal music down throat when they say they don't like it...
Personally i think metal is to noisy but i have learned to tolerate it.
Have you heard of Badbadnotgood? They’re a jazz group from Canada that has some cool tunes, I especially like when they feature a vocalist on such songs as Nervous, Time Moves Slow, In Your Eyes.
@@RetiredRobot I'll check them out
Bro, believe me when i say that you're missing a lot. Listen to the Hu, a Mongolian band. They're pretty awesome and a good introduction to Mongolian folk music. Also listen to Death Grips for something more based on rap, they are one of the weirdest bands out there. Also check Clowncore, you ARE going to love them.
Leprous, Haken, Caligula's Horse, Opeth have some really cool rythms/compositions that you should definitely check out!
Leprous and Opeth are really cool
I love Caligulas horse! My favorite song is “this city has no empathy (your sentimental lie)” and is what got me into them then Spotify recommended leprous and other bands
Opeths new prog sound is KILLER I love it
Caligula's Horse - Autumn!
Voivod!
Blackwater Park by Opeth is a magnificent album from their Death Metal era, and is absolutely a must listen from the Progressive Metal catalogue.
That is such a good fucking album
@@DJ_Mooster Their best album.
@@VidZeen I'm a still life man myself (ignore the pfp)
Muaahhhhhhh
@@VidZeen Hands fucking down their best album
“Colors” by Between the Buried and Me is a phenomenal album. Lots of influences from several genres (yes, including jazz). I always felt like there is a heavy Bach influence as well.
Colors is such a fun and amazing album!
Colors and Colors II are my favorites. I can’t recommend them enough.
Also Colors II
As far as BTBaM goes Coma Ecliptic is more accessible as a gateway album from non growl prog metal.
Colors is what made me get into them, but I gotta say The Great Misdirect is A BIT better overall
Can't recommend Ghost Revieries by Opeth enough. Might be one of the best Prog-metal albums of all time.
Blackwater Park as well, though that one may be a bit harder to get into for someone that's not already super into metal
The Drapery Falls 🤘 and... Pretty much anything since
I see you are a man of culture.
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@@yourrealdad9442 I am not super into metal but I will enthusiastically listen to anything by Opeth (heavy or not). I am probably not a typical example though.
The music is superb and Mikael's vocals are pristine, the best quality in both singing and growling, imo.
Like, you may not love post impressionist art in general, but who doesn't appreciate Van Gogh, yeah?
"Getting metal band recommendations from Charles Cornell" was definitely not on my bingo card today, but here we are! Thrive freaking slaps man
This is kind of bizarre, but “definitely not on my bingo card today” is a really good phrase that I might begin using. Thanks.
Checking out The Contortionist now, feels like a heavy Explosions in the Sky cross with Deftones.. Glad to be exposed to a band I would of never found on my own.
The contortionist live sounds exactly like the album. Those guys are amazing.
Saw them in October, it was like a spiritual cleansing. Their live shows are so incredible it’s hard to put in words.
Kinda wish there were more prog metal bands that went into this direction. My chill djent/prog playlist is pretty small rn lol
they are incredible musicians [:
Contortionist, TesseracT and Periphery will always carry the genre for me. Innovation, atmosphere and execution are what define these bands. Like he said, the sound my ears were craving for in the genre
I too saw them live and yes just like the album
I think Opeth might tip you over into "okay, harsh vocals are cool" territory. Listen to their 2005 album Ghost Reveries, if you never have, or one of their newer albums (though Mikael's gotten away from harsh vocals since 2011's Heritage).
+1 for Opeth, Blackwater Park in particular
That's the response I was about the write. Almost word for word xD
I came to the comments to see if anyone mentioned Opeth. Ghost Reveries and Blackwater Park are two of my favorite albums in the entire metal genre, hands down.
Oprah is well recognised as the gateway drug for growls.
I love the contortionist. Also:
Leprous, Animals as Leaders, TesseracT, Devin Townsend, Plini, Haken, Periphery, Intervals, Polyphia, Karnivool, ...
The harmonies in these are all so good, the rhythm, melodies, it's so satisfying.
*I really would love it if you took a listen to Nighttime Disguise by Leprous.*
As for introductory songs from this list I say sprite by devin townsend, cockroach king by haken, plini is a free for all.
Edit: also harlequin forest by opeth is an amazing journey to listen to (the whole ghost reveries album is amazing).
@@MetroidChild Yeah I love haken, but generally it's not the band I recommend to newbies. It's an acquired taste, a bit out there. I love the Mountain, but Affinity might be more of a mainstream-like entrypoint I would say.
@@barmetler I was thinking from the eyes of a jazz musician like our boy Charles, the leap is way smaller than for someone who doesn't listen to either metal or jazz.
@@MetroidChild true true, understanding music theory and appreciating harmonies and the such is probably sufficient
don’t forget chon 😍
You should definitely check out Haken. Tons of jazz influence in their music, but as a prog band they pull from lots of different sources.
Also love seeing some of my favorite bands throughout this video!
+1 for Haken. My song pick would be Veil
Absolutely cannot recommend Haken enough!
That's right. Haken is awesome.
Also, Richard Henshall's solo album The Cocoon.
The first song of theirs I ever heard was Initiate. Later I heard Invasion and it blew me away.
An insanely incredible band is Gojira. Super technical, groovy, unique and heavy! They have such a great balance of everything, They are amazing.
Best!
And melodic.
Yes. Also Lamb of God
I remember when I first enrolled into a music school, and there were so many elitists who wouldn't listen to metal.. When us metal musicians would listen to everything, so many people couldn't get past the heavy sound or vocal style. It's great when people finally open up and give every genre a chance.. There are high chances that you'll love it. For me the genres that took me a long while to get into were country and rap.. But now I find myself listening to artists from both genres because there's musical aspects that draw me in. For Jazz it makes more sense, since you're going from complex to complex. I've always been inspired by Orchestral soundtracks, and when I write music I always want to emulate that with more aggression and distortion.
My primary genre is metal, particularly metalcore, by leaps and bounds, but I've always enjoyed jazz and while growing up I had a strong distaste for classical, I've grown to love it just as much as jazz, all for the same reasons I love metal so much. But those are really the only genres I can truly enjoy and find joy in listening to. I haven't really tried folk and similar genres to be fair, so there's likely some musical complexity there that I'd enjoy, but most other genres I don't really care for, and I CANNOT get into country and especially rap/hip-hop. Popular as they might be, I've found nothing that excites the musician within me and I find the lyrics to be generally very distasteful.
@@ThatBeTheQuestion You're a metalhead yet you're calling Country lyrics distasteful? Okay screamo...
@@ThatBeTheQuestion Dunno about country music, it all sounds whiny and self-obsessed to me, but in terms of hip-hop could be you're listening to all the wrong things. I'd recommend artists like A Tribe called Quest, Mos Def, Common, Black Thought, Queen Latifah and the like, and I'm not even that much into hip-hop. I'm a grunge/metal person myself but there are some truly amazing stuff put out by hip-hop artists. Danger Mouse's new album is frigging amazing, and Mos Def's Black on Both Sides is one of my fav albums.
@@coastaku1954 Go on, make your point if you have one...
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Metal is all just screaming death and murder
The Art of Dying by Gojira. The album it's on re-introduced me to my love of metal. The 'deathgrowls' on the album are a bit more my taste than some of the other metal vocal styles.
The intro to the song art of dying is still one of my all time favorites
Yeah. Same.
Album is "The Way of All Flesh".
For anyone who's curious. This, "Terra Incognita", and "Magma" are my top 3 favorite Gojira albums.
Gojira is definitely one of the best out there.
Honestly, most of Gojira's stuff is just so tastefully unique
TesseracT is one of those bands like the Contortionist that has those huge flourishes that make you go. 😮
My favorite album is Polaris.
phat recommend for TesseracT
I'd also add Whitecube and Musicformessier into those must listens. Mega proggy, mega spacey.
I got into polymeter with TesseracT before anything else and came to the comment section to namedrop them
Polaris is a fucking masterpiece.
Nocturne is one of those songs that I will never skip.
If you like Jazz-influenced metal, you should totally check out the band I play sax in: Rivers of Nihil. We just did a US tour with The Contortionist where they played "Language" and "Exoplanet" in full, and the other bois just did a European run right after. Little darker and more emotional than analytical at most points, but check em out!
Where Owls Know My Name and Home were the songs that got me into RoN, The Void from Which No Sound Escapes being my all time favorite song. You guys are so good!! We really need more sax in metal songs, they give such a unique layer to the music.
Yes
Just want to say thank you for what you've created ! Such a magnificent album(s) that inspired me and pushed me to learn how to play saxophone.
Great albums! Your sax playing takes them to another level. Thanks for being a part of making them!
I saw you guys in Seattle for this tour! You remain one of the most underrated metal bands out there. Thank you for making incredible music!!!
So happy to see Plini and The Contortionist AND Periphery here! Thank You Scientist, Devin Townsend, Polyphia, TesseracT, VOLA, Twelve Foot Ninja, Intervals, Opeth, Gojira, so many more examples of complex musicianship of progressive metal subtypes.
Just commenting so I can find this list later.
Throw sithu aye, his split ep with plini is phenomenol, starsystems, widek, and scale the summit on that list.
Arch Echo!
Leprous, Haken, David Maxim Micic, Chon, The Fall of Troy, The Dear Hunter
vola is incredible
Tool, Haken and Opeth are definately some of my favourites. And i just added the Contortionist to that list. Awesome stuff.
Contortionist is amazing! Definitely check out their album Clairvoyant, and give yourself the opportunity to listen to it front to back with headphones.
Opeth is still one of my favorite bands of all time ❤️
I'm curious if you've ever given porcupine tree or any of Steven Wilson's other projects a listen? I feel like it might fit your style
You gotta add some Ne obliviscaris, persefone, Slice the cake, and nero di marte to that list
I really think you should check out Tesseract! I genuinely think Acle Kahney is a musical genius, his work writing long form songs that sound cohesive and then doing that over the span of an album is just mind boggling and you’d love it!
Altered State is one of my favorite albums ever released
This video allowed me to discover The Contortionist, which was how I first got into metal. From there, I discovered a similar band called TesseracT who have been my favourite band since I found out about them nearly a year ago. Their music has had such an impact on me and on my own composition, and had it not been for this video, that never would have happened. So thank you, please keep making amazing videos. 🤘
Also check Skyharbor with the current vocalist of Tesseract. Great music
@@dokanyon Indeed I have
I really recommend checking out Thank You Scientist. They’ve got this wonderful fusion of jazz, metal, and so many other genres that makes their songs so catchy and compelling. Despite being pretty quirky sometimes, they’re actually really accessible for those trying to get into metal. Plus Tom Monda is an absolutely AMAZING guitarist, even for a genre with as much stiff competition as progressive metal. Everyone involved in this band is so talented.
Also love seeing all these recommendations for Haken and Caligula’s Horse, they’re fantastic as well!
Yeeessss. So happy to see Thank You Scientist mentioned. Super underrated band.
@@The_Lunatic_Fringe89 Absolutely! Even if Charles doesn’t see this comment I hope other people will check them out
I came down to these here comments to make the same comment. I'm glad someone beat me to it! Thank You Scientist are so good, a mix of progressive rock, progressive metal, and jazz fusion that sounds so, so good
+1! It's sooo good
If you're getting into this type of music, you can't avoid TesseracT. They are going to go down in history, I swear.
TesseracT is God Tier omg
Well, maybe their first and most recent album, yeah
Let’s not forget the other band to be birthed from the breakup of Fellsilent, Monuments!
@@Zelemetal Sonder, Polaris, and One are easily their best albums
@@slapmilk9421 so... 3 out of 5?
You can’t even imagine the smile that came to my face when the first song you called out was Thrive by The Contortionist. This is probably my favorite song by probably my favorite band and I’ve never heard anyone else call it out by name. Great video dude!!
This albums is brilliant. Prob my fav if all-time 👌🏽
Been listening to language for well over 5 years and it's never gotten old
I think Tesseract are really underrated. They're really melodic but still have the hard pumping rhythms (still with a 4 backbone), they're really good
So hyped for the new album to come out
Yeah Tessy is where it's at (lol my propic).
I think compositionally Exile is their best written song though some others have more sentimental value to me (Retrospect, Acceptance just to name a couple).
Tesseract needs more love! SO good!
Dystopia is just so good
Amazing (and underappreciated) artists.
I cannot recommend Opeth enough. They’re not as advanced on the side of technicality but their song writing is so compelling
yes sir favorite band
One of the best bands ever that no one on radio talks about enough...
Don't forget Dream Theater, one of the bands that influenced their prog era
@@grwheeler1982 dude i'm so glad i saw your comment. I just added a few of their songs on Spotify and plan to explore their catelogue. they remind me a little of Corpsegrinder's side group Paths of Possession.
Absolutely. Especially when it comes to harmonics... "Mikael Akerfeldt never plays a boring chord" is a common phrase here :)
A bit of a hard one, but I would recommend Opeth. The riffing in, especially their first 5 or so albums is utterly unmatched. And the melodic components of some of their later albums are just totally unique and utterly beautiful.
Haven't seen it listed yet, but Devin Townsend is an absolute god-send of a musician! Massive compositions, prog beyond belief, and even some humour to boot. Can't go wrong with "Hevy Devy"!
fully agreed! Though his crazy-prolific catalogue does need some curation for the best moments
The secrets of the universe are between the buns.
@@chasebalcziunas4289 but I can't haz the cheeseburger guys, I'm a vegimatarian
I AM SO OMNISCIENT. IF THERE WERE
TO BE TWO OMNISCIENCES, I WOULD BE BOTH.
Came to say this exactly. It's complicated to choose where to start, I guess it depends on the goal.
Deconstruction is definitely among the proggiest as an album in general. Epicloud might be a bit more digestible while still being heavy as hell, the epicness of it all making it mich more emotionally engaging.
Even some SYL things would be fitting though, "Almost Again" really feels like the stepping stone from SYL to DTB and DTP, which I think also makes it super interesting to check out.
It's a complicated thing to approach due to the stylistic breadth of everything that beautiful canuck lunatic has done. I'd imagine a few months of listening and building a feeling for what he's doing before actually making a video about him. Though just some thoughts on Ziltoid or Z² would also be awesome. 😄
I'm so glad Plini got a mention and a feature. The first time I heard Plini come on at work I had to stop working to figure out what I was listening to. Electric Sunrise released soon after and that album changed my life for sure.
Plini is such a vibe!
Randomly had Plini Selenium Forest suggested by Spotify after playing some other stuff and it swept me off my feet. Plini definitely is one of my go to's for this kinda music
When Plini did the Quad Cortex debut with Pan, For me was the ultimate song on his career (i have quiet a long time withouth listen his music). Man, what a Song.
To Charles or anyone else having a similar music journey, my personal reccomendations are Intervals and Thank You Scientist!
thank you scientist are so good
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They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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Second for Thank You Scientist. Such a good band.
Also love Coheed and Cambria - not really metal but gotta mention them.
Intervals is great!
came here to say thank you scientist
Charles, you've gotta check out Haken, I think you'd love them! Richard Henshall's solo album from 2019 is also a banger.
ayo i'm scared charles is gonna get an aneurysm from listening to the ridiculous shit in Celestial Elixir
Agreed!
Cockroach King is my favorite from them
Haken has written some of the most creative compositions in Progressive Metal since Dream Theater gave rise to what we consider the genre today, and I am absolutely in love with a whole lot of what they have done.
@@ryer9646 at this point in time Haken is well ahead of Dream Theater, and I got into prog with DT
You got me hooked on The Contortionist. I had never heard them before, but this is right up my alley. “Language” has become one of my favorite albums. Thank you.
Did you get to catch them on this last tour? The madlads have been playing Language and Exoplanet all the way through back to back. Absolutely insane.
Check out clairvoyant! It’s actually supposed to be a sequel to language but much darker. There’s actually a story tying the two together
@@themightymcb7310 I didn’t get the chance to see them unfortunately. Would love to see one day.
@@MrDaedra language is an amazing album . I would recommend checking g out their 1st 2 albums Exoplanet and Intrinsic
Check out “The Back of My Mind” by Artificial Language too. I personally know the drummer and he’s very influenced by The Contortionist.
I've been in love with Jinjer in the metal realm these last few years. I love their odd signatures and frequent time changes. Their vocalist is phenomenal as well. I like Pisces, Vortex, I Speak Astronomy, among others.
Vortex is one of my favorite. Jinjer is very fun to listen to.
Wallflower absolutely slaps n all
Between The Buried And Me. Easily one of the coolest bands who integrate pretty much every genre of music you can imagine at least a little bit, some of their songs just break into jazz tunes halfway through just for the fun of it but it often fits so well, the guitar, drum, synth, and even bass work are on a completely different level. Their album “Colors” is probably one of the most beautiful and complex metal pieces and it is just a masterpiece.
Yes dude! Colors is still my favorite album of all time.
Colors will always be my favourite album of all time, the way each song fits together is **gorgeous**
Colors is my favorite too. I love how they put little Easter eggs of the first Colors throughout Colors 2. Brilliantly done
god i love colors. so good.
Colors is incredible but Parallax II is my favorite. Silent flight parliament is a masterclass on how to end an album.
Highly recommend Between the Buried and Me. Every member is so technically skilled, and they mix all sorts of different styles together. Super prog, super metal. Dope stuff
@@meatsticktwinkie5508 colors 2 is pretty good too
@@meatsticktwinkie5508 I hope you saw them last year because they played two entire sets. One was a 20 year anniversary set and the other was the great misdirect in it’s entirety
@@metalmanny666 saw them at the Masquerade in ATL. Changed my appreciation for live concerts.
@@jaredponder4149 I know, right?! I had the same appreciation when I saw Demons & Wizards in 2019 and iced earth a few times
We were all packed up and literally about to leave to play an opening set for BTBAM, and got word the show was cancelled because the other bands singer was sick. Other band was Comeback Kid, who I had never even heard of at that time. Such a massive disappointment... especially because BTBAM was that bands biggest influence.
Not even sure if their second record was out yet, but it was definitely before Alaska.
David Maxim Micic definitely deserves a shout out, so much going on in his music and I would love to see you react and pick it apart
To add another Djent "forerunner" with a ton of interesting musicality going on, you should also check out Sikth
Don't forget Destiny Potato! Great stuff from David Maxim Micic in that band.
David is amazing, I think Charles would enjoy his music writing, particularly in his track "Smile"
"Daydreamers" is easily one of the best songs period
Where Is Now is a beautiful song of his. I almost cried when I heard it the first time
The way you feel The Contortionist is how I wished all my friends who I showed this album would respond. This is my exact reaction to this album. To this day, one of the best metal albums ever
Cannot recommend Thank You Scientist enough. “Stranger Heads Prevail” is a fantastic album, and “Maps of Non-Existent Places” is up there as well.
I really like Terraformer and Maps. I still need to connect with Stranger Heads, but still agree it's a fantastic album
Gotta second this one
Even after years of listening to weird, crazy metal stuff, when I first heard Psychopomp, I was SHOOK. Stranger heads is a masterpiece from front to back, IMO
I absolutely love "A Wolf in Cheap Clothing", it's one of my favorite songs
Terraformer is unreal. Each song on there (except for maybe the title track) is a contender for my favourite track of all time, period. If I had to choose, it would probably be Everyday Ghosts...
Steven Wilson with Porcupine Tree is my go to for odd times and mental rhythms. Prog storytelling at its finest. The drummer Gavin Harrison is one of the best in the business 👌
Animals as leaders - tooth and claw
Tesseract - nocturne
Haken - 1985
Between the buried and me - extremophile elite
Karnivool - Goliath
Leprous - nighttime disguise
Yaaaas Goliath, I wish the ending was 4 times as long.
You have good taste my friend
could easily add Ne Obliviscaris - And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope
@@masestero imo painters of the tempest is their best song ever but also it's harder to get into, so yeah Listen to aPFtK or Forget not
So weird, I literally just recommended Haken too lol. That switch midway is insane
Dream Theater's "Breaking All Illusions" for the variety of sound and their "Scenes from a Memory" album for beautiful musical motifs servicing an album-spanning murder mystery story.
Korpiklaani for introducing me to folk metal, particularly "Vodka," "Iievan Polkka," and "Pellonpekko."
And some of the best metal is the kind that doesn't take itself too seriously. Dream Evil's jitterbug/swing metal song that rhymes "beast" with "east" **twice**, "H.M.J."
Korpiklaani is one of the best folk-metal bands in my opinion. Most folk-metal bands I hear lean heavily towards black metal (like Moonsorrow) or are more folk than metal (such as Heilung), and Korpiklaani is the only band I’ve heard that is non-blackened folk metal. I know there are other bands that don’t do the “blackened folk metal” sound, but they don’t seem as common.
Hey Charles, you could totally make this a series. Having people send you a playlist to try and convince you of the appeal of certain genres that you wouldn't otherwise listen to. I think that would be really cool.
I second this!!
I absolutely love The Contortionist, what a band. Tool, Karnivool, Tesseract, Mastodon, Opeth, Meshuggah are other favorite bands of mine who dabble in this for sure 🤘 I think I got stuck in the progressive genres after hearing Lateralus for the first time, or maybe Sound Awake by Karnivool.
Finding this channel and video felt like home instantly!
Lateralus was the song that got me into prog.... took me many listens to realise that Danny Carey hadn't, in fact, screwed up the timing. That's when my mind blew...
You have impeccable taste my friend 😂
Was checking comments to make sure Opeth was here somewhere, came away with more for the listen list. 🤙 thanks
Sound Awake is an incredible album!! Not a bad song on it.
I'm so happy to see someone else appreciating Plini. Discovered him a year ago, and I'm fully invested.
I'll throw in some suggestions for Dream Theater and Opeth as great bands to check out
Always love when someone doesn't know dream theater and giving them homework to blow their minds. Such a talented band
@@Ysidoroh I watched a guy react to Change of Seasons for the first time, and it reminded me of rhe first time I heard them. Chills
Came straight to comments like 15 seconds in to make sure Plini was mentioned here or in the video lol
Got into him a couple years ago and he's my favorite artist ....bar none.
Since I haven't seen it from anyone else, I've gotta recommend VOLA. They're a progressive metal band that flirts heavily with other genres and absolutely kill it (see Ruby Pool). The stuff you talked about liking in the video made me think of the breakdown on The Same War and the chorus on Starburn, both from their first album. I love what they do with rhythm and harmony, and their unique sound!
I would recommend Leprous - The Sky Is Red. There are really good live performance and drum playthrough videos! I just personally love Leprous' songs, and think you might enjoy some of them too.
I listen recently to the album and that song is amazing.
Vouch
Yess, Their album Aphelion is one of my absolute favorites
I also like their latest album, Aphelion
I'm the inverse as you. I started out full on metal, then discovered Pat Metheney and Alan Holdsworth, and then jazz became a full time obsession for me. The crossover happening between the genres these days is everything I've ever wanted in music.
Same here. Became tired of all these youtuber guitarists and bands too. Obsessed with Joe Pass, Wes Montgomery, George Van Eps, and Pat Martino. I don't think I'll come back.
My Favorite is Haken. There’s a ton of the Djent influence but also a ton of jazz influence, with some interjections of straight up jazz in their songs. They play a lot of insanely cool melodies, fast scales, and arpeggiated figures that are incredibly technical while being incredibly beautiful. I couldn’t recommend them enough!
I’ve only listened to The Mountain, that album blew my mind a few times and I’ve been meaning to listen to more. Been a big Tool fan for many years and no other band compares imho but Haken’s legit
Opeth is a progressive metal band that started as death metal. At this point, they’re making very interesting music, with many jazz notes mixed with metal. If you listen, I’d suggest “The Baying of the Hounds.”
Lol "jazz notes"
@@jv_marchiori…was probably a wee bit high when I wrote that.
Technically, they are only death metal because of Akerfeldt's growls. Everything else is just a bunch of mixes.
If you know the basics of the metal genres you'll notice they always have been inspired by folk music (all the 3 and 6 in the time signatures, the acoustic guitars and some piano passages), and mainly by black metal (the reason why they are the self proclaimed "most evil band" of the world).
I'm refereing to their early early era (see Orchid).
"Metal" musicians have been, am and will be S tier musicians. The modern metal musician is insane in both the mechanics of playing the instrument, theory, music production, tones, conveying ideas. I'm so in awe of so many musicians in the modern metal world and I can't wait for what the future brings us. I LOVE the fact that EDM elemnts is making it's way into metal.
Keep up the great content Charles.
The harmonies on Language are truly unmatched. It’s jaw-dropping stuff, even 8 years later. I can’t think of another metal record with such a cohesive, careful craft of gorgeous harmony, melded with mind-melting production and guitar riffs. Not to mention the rhythmic structures being just complex enough to be interesting, but never too insane to put off more casual listeners
I had never listened to the Contortionist before until I saw them open for Between the Buried and Me on their Colors tour, fall of 2017. In my opinion, they stole the show. I went home and listened to Language, and immediately fell in love. I remember thinking, okay, this album starts out strong, but there will be a dud sooner or later. But it just kept getting better and better as the album went on. It will always be one of my favorite albums of all time.
I would like to say as a non music theory, self taught guitarist and fairly new metal head, as it were; Charles and some of you here have been putting into practical terms, why I fucking love all these bands and the genres and sub-genres that encompass their music, and that's pretty wild.
I strongly recommend VOLA. Amazing clean vocal harmonies with some awesome heavy, technical guitar riffs
Language is such a beautiful album, it got me into The Contortionist as a whole project and to this day still holds up as well as it did the day it released to my ear. Excellent taste.
Watching Tomas Hakke (Drummer, Meshuggah) play (via drum-cam) "Bleed," and "Clockworks," you realize just what an absolute machine Thomas is.
As they say, his ponytail surely hides the midi cable coming out of his head
I'm a jazz pro musician, and former metalhead. Meshuggah is by far the most memorable concert i've ever seen
I remember seeing them years ago at a festival, shortly after Tomas had had his spinal surgery for a compressed nerve root, which was slowing his left foot enough to interfere with his playing.
His drum tech filled for most of the set, but like 3 weeks post surgery Haake played Bleed for the encore.
Holy shit, what a drummer
The problem with bleed is it's literally one pattern. It's just the herta under a 4/4. Yes it's incredibly difficult (I sure can't play it), but that's all it is. Once I had someone describe Meshuggah to me as "rhythm exercises with vocals" I couldn't listen to them anymore lol
@@HonkeyKongLive I don't agree with you. Indeed the song is not that complex. But it's still crazy, and the modd is so strong. Complexity doesn't make good music. Strong ideas make good music.
This is an obvious choice for a recommendation, but I really suggest you check out Thank You Scientist. They’re one of my favorite bands. They combine prog metal and jazz fusion in a way that just works so well
YES YES YES PLEASE
I want him to cover this band more than anything in the world. He would absolutely fall in love with Mr. Invisible and the rest of their amazing songs, god I want this so badly please charles listen to this band.
Loved the video! One of my biggest influences is Dream Theater. Mike Portnoy made a breakdown video of the changing time signatures of Dance of Eternity. It really shows how intricate prog metal can get.
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They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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This guy needs to check out Car Bomb. Their drummer has a strong jazz background and they draw inspiration from different jazz techniques he uses as part of his warmup and practice to write songs with strange time signatures that grooves in a way you didn't think was possible.
Car bomb absolutely slappppps
Dude, Lights Out? Forget about it.
good ol elliot hoffman
@@jaredbrooks7219completely.
Metal will thaw your soul!
I'd really love to see you look into Polyphia because I think you'd really get a kick out of them!
Absolutely! Polyphia is phenomenal
Polyphia isn’t very good in my opinion
Completely agree
@@realobama1100 do you mean not good based on their talent or your preference/liking of their songs?
meh
"In Contact" by Caligula's Horse is a 10/10 prog album. Really melodic, amazing harmonies and a brilliant fantasy story behind the lyrics that make me feel like I'm in another world. Nothing compares
Rise radiant is also such a banger album
Let me add another vote for In Contact! That album is so special!
This! Their last two albums have been fantastic.
+1. In Contact has been my favourite prog metal album since I got it.
My favorite album by them is Bloom... but the last 3 albums they've released are all phenomenal.
+1 for Car Bomb. Check out Meta first imo. When he was talking about nodding along and losing the downbeat, one of my favourite memories of live music is seeing Car Bomb play and watching a whole crowd nodding their heads, losing the downbeat, and simultaneously realising they were lost and trying to catch up.
If you haven't yet, check out Jinjer. The standard first 'reaction' is on Pisces, the live session. I'd start there... Incredible musicians, known for constantly switching time signatures and mashing up genres (pretty much all integrated into metal). Truly incredible artists!
This is a joke right
@@4572dk Have you listened to any other Jinjer songs? They're so much more than just "Pisces."
@@LinkinVerbz44 haha i see what you did there
For this person I would actually recommend Vortex or Teacher Teacher first
@@serket6807 Definitely can't go wrong with those two choices. "Vortex" is my personal favorite of theirs, both the song and the music video. It's just got everything: clean singing, killer growls, tight as hell rhythm section, and super crunchy riffs.
Opeth - Ghost of Perdition has the most insane Jazz Metal fill ever. From the same album Baying of the Hounds is metal taken to the sublime.
I haven't seen anyone mention Cloudkicker, incredible riffs and rhythms that blend metal with post-rock. I think you'd really dig his most recent album
Yeah dude ! Ben Sharp is a freakin genius !
Cloudkicker were a VERY welcome recommendation from Spotify. Absolutely blew me away with how heavy yet chill it is at the same time. Masterful composition for what they were going for
I was listening Cloudkicker's song % one night when i received a call that my friend had just passed away .whenever i i think of him i have to listen to Cloudkicker .
Soooo underrated, my favorite artist from this genre by a decent margin (along e meshuggah)
Language is one of my favorite front to back albums. So expansive! Appreciate the way you’re able to articulate why I like the album so much.
Got pulled into this genre by my dad from a very young age. His CD collection contained a lot of: Dreamtheater, liquid tension experiment, transatlantic, flying colors, sons of Apollo and neal morse.
As a metalhead who enjoys Jazz, Devin Townsend is the man for you, from beautiful and light chill songs and a whole jazz album (the puzzle) to the devilry that is Strapping young lad and everything in between.
I think you might enjoy Hypocrisy, self titled and The final chapter albums, more slow melachonic vibes.
I second anything Devin Townsend-- Devin Townsend Band, Devin Townsend Project, all of the above really.
I'd also recommend In Flames for some "melody amongst the noise"
And a shout out to Protest the Hero for complex math metal type stuff.
I have Devin Townsend’s “Empath” on vinyl and it’s one of my all time favorites to listen to on a record. That album is such an experience and to listen to it all at once in that setting is amazing. It’s a masterpiece
@@JoeMama-ul5lq "Through the heaven, through the field
Shine forever, shine on me
A golden future is strong and free
I'll shine for you if you shine for me
If you can't shine for you friend
Please shine for me!"
a thousand percent agree with Devy. I'm not sure how he would react to SYL but I'm positive the DTP stuff would be right up his alley, ESPECIALLY the Deconstruction album
Charles needs a few Opeth chord progressions in his life. 😃
sure thing lol
I don't like Opeth
@@nebula_M42 I loved that
Instrumental prog metal is some of my favourite music. Just to name a few plini, animals as leaders, I built the sky, intervals, polyphia. All really incredible bands
Check out Arch Echo if you haven't already. Also Mestis (solo project of Javier Reyes from Animals as Leaders)
Polyphia is more of a wannabe trap metal band without the terrible untrained screaming of an adolescent.
I would unironically recommend Charles listen to some Death, especially "Sound of Perseverance" - while I don't think he'd be a particular fan of the vocals, there are some really interesting experimentations with polyrhythms and just weird stuff that I think he might appreciate
Absolutely this. Opeth are also the masters of death metal with progressive influences :)
That is one of my favorite albums. Full stop.
@@p_biggie Yeah, Opeth never play a boring chord.
I love how you experiment and diversify your tastes with your audience! Something that helped me as a classical vocalist start to appreciate harsh vocal styles was an approach to them not necessarily as "singing" so much as a rhythmic instrument. A lot of bands are great lyric writers, but the first things that most listeners notice are the rhythmic timings and the relative pitches. As you listen, pay attention to how some vocalists use different techniques in coordination with textural changes or lyrical cues. It really deepened my appreciation for the craft.
Heavily reccomend Vildhjarta, their music feels like a next step in the evolution of the style that Meshuggah brought us. Absolutely insane band with crazy use of time and melodies.
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Buster Odeholms rhythmic imagination is next level and so inspiring
Language is my favorite album in the last 10 years, musically and spiritually.
Dude, we NEED you to do a piano cover of Thrive.
I had to rewatch the video just for that part, it's SO GOOD.
Seriously. Language 1 & 2 are such beautiful pieces of music.
From start to finish, that album is about as perfect as musical composition and recording can get
Charles you really have to look into Yvette young and her band covet she’s math rock musician but she fuses all these different genres so well with these intricate voicings using tapping and finger style techniques as well as her lyrics just full of emotions
Tool Lateralus is a great prog album and the track that has the same name as the album uses an abreviated Fibonacci sequence and they have toured with meshuggah. King Crimson Construction of Light is also another great prog album you could check out.
Thanks for mentioning TOOL. Couldn’t agree more
@@castsmeteor3 I know I was wondering when he was going to mention Tool. I guess they're too overrated to mention? But I don't care I still love Tool.
A tune you should check out is Straws Pulled at Random by Meshuggah. It starts really heavy and complex, with the lyrics talking about the uncontrollability of life and inevitability of death but in the end of the song it goes into a really beautiful, melodic jazzy solo that gives a much more optimistic end to it all. Masterful track.
Some of this reminds me of the group Haken, especially their album “The Mountain.” Prog with djent influences and heavy jazz elements, lots of complex meters, not so heavy that they sacrifice lyricism or melodic content.
Love plini, haken, dream theater, Animals as leaders, all amazing stuff
Arch Echo is another you’d love! Super melodic phrases and even more insane rhythms. 12/10 highly recommend
Yessss Arch Echo is in this conversation 100%
Arch Echo is 100% the best music group I’ve discovered in the last few years.
Thank you for introducing me to the contortionist “thrive” !!!I’ve been playing it over and over since watching this video, a truly brilliant song
I feel like you should definitely check out Between the Buried and Me, specially their newest album Colors II. That album is a microcosm of everything you talked about in this video
Played out. Every album sounds the same. They haven't changed since 2007
@@vampcaff true... by that logic they've always been and still are outstanding
Dude yes. I'm so obsessed with Colors II since it came out. There's so much to unpack and get into with every section of their music
@@YeetMeDadi I'm still so obsessed with the references to most of the albums before I haven't even read the lyrics yet :D
Dream Theater is at times a polarizing band, but their recent song "the Alien," is really cool. It's in 17/8
17/16*
@@marshaltito7369 tyty
It's a great song but not at all what I'd recommend. Breaking All Illusions would be a good first DT song for him. The first verse is so tasteful, melodies soaring, and the solo is legendary.
@@andrewcarroll9097 I also love Erotomania, such a fun one
Man, I read "Cream Theater" like several times...
This video made me so happy. Seeing someone who's so passionate and clearly loves music find something new like this is why I love metal.
That happy and joy face at 12:24 ... priceless !!
I am always impressed by the way he talks about music but just casually snapping a dotted eight note rhythm on one hand over a steady quarter note beat on the other hand 🤯
Bleed is the most hypnotic song I've ever heard. My eyes glaze over every time i hear it. I don't normally like screaming either but I really like that song
I recommend everything combining rock and jazz( fusion, math rock, etc). You should definitely check Polyphia, Covet, and even things from Ichika Nito in general, but specifically Ichikoro!
Yes, absolutely yes! I was about to recommend Polyphia🤘😊 Ichika Nito is spectacular as well. I'll check out Covet, as I hadn't heard about them yet 😅
YESSSSS HE DID PROG METAL WAIT TILL HE SEES MIDWEST EMO THE TRUE MATH GENRE
I live for the day I hear he never meant riff on this channel
It's so gratifying to watch this video, as an avid listener and lover of The Contortionist, Plini, Scar Symmetry and so many other great musical geniuses that wholely go unnoticed in today's musical climate, hearing your praise of my favorite musicians and songs is doing amazing things for my self esteem lol thank you for the content! Please keep it coming.
As someone trying to learn the piano this channel continually inspires me.
Leprous, though less metal these days, are phenomenal and worth checking out. Caligula's Horse and The Ocean Collective as well!
The harsh vocals I can completely relate to - they took me years to get used to. I spent years getting used to Devin Townsend before I started to appreciate other forms (he's still the master). I think you'd enjoy looking into Devin's work - he often sees sounds as colours and writes as if he's painting a picture and I think that'd be very interesting for you to decompose.
another genre that i would love to see you break down is math rock/jazz rock. Its very similar the genre that the songs you break down are in, but often with softer instrumentation. one band that I've been adoring over recently is toe and their album "the book on my idle plot on a vague anxiety". would love to see you break it down. keep up what you're doing man love your videos
Yo that album is so good. The drum sound especially :)
If you like that, I recommend you listen to Uchu Conbini - 8 films, Hyakkei - Kagerou Railway, A Picture of Her - 1992
@@RetiredRobot the drums are probably my biggest attraction to the album too. and thanks for the suggestions ill def check those out
Karnivool is an old favorite. Masters of odd groove and polyrythm while keeping everything in the comtext of a song. Animals as leaders can be harder to grasp but theyre in another class of technicality
Karnivool is my favorite band of all time, I have been to two of their concerts now, and they are from the same city as me
As soon as he played that little clip from Thrive I thought of Karnivool staright away
Hey Charles, I've seen people mention a few awesome projects already (Animals as Leaders, Devin Townsend Project, Gojira, Opeth) but I'd like to add Ne Obliviscaris to that list. They have a lot of elements of that rythmic and melodic intricacy that you enjoyed from The Contortionist. Hopefully you'll enjoy them if you get to listening to them!
One of my favourite realisations I had, coming from Metal, getting into Jazz and then going back, was realising that Contortionist's second album, Intrinsic, is just a Jazz Fusion record.
Gave me an even bigger appreciation for them and what they do, even with Exoplanet still being one of my favourite albums of all time
I was wondering why "Thrive" was giving me some heavy Cynic vibes, then I checked the year. Pure contemporaries, along the same timeframe as the start of The Devin Townsend Project as well. Two metal performers that I fell in love with working on their music for Rock Band Network. As little I am a metalhead, I could always use more of this style in my life.
as far as i remember Cynic released their most influential album in 1993. kind of hard to call them contemporaries to Contortionist or DTP.
well, "most influential" is kinda subjective as I'd say in my prog metal/djent circles Traced in Air is the big one, but not only that but the majority of Cynics work is post '08, so functionally all three bands were working in similar spaces and around the same time. I still think there is a lot of old heads who will bristle at saying they are contemporaries, though for sure. Focus was a big deal as I understand it.
I'll admit that post-'08 Cynic is the Cynic I'm most familiar with, and I've neglected taking the time to explore the back catalogue so that's entirely on me.
@@Viviantoga Focus is genre defining and very very expertly crafted, highly recommended
@@xxnarnarnarxx Just gave it a listen, I can definitely see the craftsmanship of the later albums formed from the very beginning and how the blend of styles becomes genre-defining. The album's comparatively erratic in almost a threatening way, unlike the more ponderous kind of shifts that I hear in Carbon-Based Anatomy for example. As much as I prefer the newer stuff, Focus was certainly a worthwhile listen!
Since you're into metal now, I would highly recommend Scar Symmetry. Brutal and super cool progressive metal. Impressive singer who both growled and sang, heard they had to replace him with 2 singers.
and absent for almost a decade as us fans earnestly wait for part 2 of The Singularity
Christian Alvestam left the band in 2008, thats almost 15 years ago :D
Per Nilsson is one of the most impressive guitarists today. I can just listen to him jam out for hours.
Hey Charles, I absolutely love Haken's album The Mountain and I reccomend you check out the song Falling Back To Earth. Also, Impulse Voices by Plini is brilliant all the way through, Pan and Papelillo being two fantastic songs that I highly recommend if you haven't already listened to them.