Why YG's Formula Worked For BLACKPINK but Not For Babymonster: A Deep Dive into What Went Wrong

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025

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  • @abgbotaktv1598
    @abgbotaktv1598 Месяц назад +17

    The fact is... whatever people say or critic this group... their in right track to follow their senior achievement .. this group keep famous globally... and keep getting bigger...

  • @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh
    @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh Месяц назад +13

    But how can people judge an group from their mv
    For example - every groups are banned to dating but they are singing love songs , writing romantic lines how this can possible if they don't experienced those feelings so all the clothes, car and big sets are used is just an imagination
    About fashion and rich babymonster not used too much lines or thing in their mv it's very normal for kpop and now an important part of kpop
    Don't you know how korean teenage is obsessed with luxury items they loved to show off so its natural in their culture

    • @poppette1978
      @poppette1978 Месяц назад +2

      what are u talking about? both black pink and baby monsters don't write their own music and create their own narrative. this opinion/essay piece is more a dig and a call out to the producers and creative directors in YG not to the members themselves bec they are not like BTS or stray kids that create and contribute heavily to their own music and narrative themselves. these YG girl groups just follow like marionettes whatever their producers and creative directors laid out for them. u can still search in utube western interviews of BP where they admitted that they are not involved on their music and contents apart fr just going to the studio to record and report to their respective schedules. maybe apart fr Rosè who opened up some videos and contents in the middle ears of her career that she is trying to be more involved in writing and composing for her solo music with Teddy. So ur issue about their experience in love of whatever or lack thereof is non issue here or not relevant at all. Wow this litany is way too long, I should work hard on my writing skills to deliver my thoughts concisely 😅

    • @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh
      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh Месяц назад +1

      @poppette1978 then why you did so much hardwork in writing these nonsense lines , I am not specially taking about bm and blackpink that they write or not their songs
      I am talking about every group in kpop is not allowed to date publicly but still they are allowed to sing and write about love , what the hypocrisy is this so it can be imagination, then all the mv with big sets , luxury cars and items is just an imagination anybody can use anything but it's doesn't mean they wanted to show off that they are rich and it can be justified for yg group because they are from a big company even small company used heavy budget so it's doesn't matter what they are doing in the mv , song is important

    • @poppette1978
      @poppette1978 Месяц назад +2

      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh dear one word for you that u were not listening to the video RELATABILITY. If u consider what I wrote nonsense then it's ur problem with comprehension not mine, u can do ur diligent research what I stated were all facts, whatever deduction u arrive after being given an information is only a reflection of ur brain and ur personality. And please it would do u good to comprehend ur own comment. Read again ur original comment regarding writing romantic lyrics and now ur backtracking on ur own words... anyway whatever dear

    • @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh
      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh Месяц назад

      @@poppette1978 you are really a dump , why you misleading my comment, did I take babymonster and blackpink name in first 2 lines then how you himself imagined I am taking about them , specially blackpink how can you involved them in this conversation did I take their name you are just an hater and an idiot one , I am accidentally wrote' these groups' word in first comment then I am replaced it with 'every groups ' , this is a little change other wise all are the original lines, but these I don't use for bp and bm ok It cleared from my comment I don't praise bm and bp that they herself write their songs or not
      First you should read what is a person trying to say , I am not arguing here who is writing song how talented they are or not
      I am taking about the luxury items shown in the mv it's just an imagination
      And the last thing I think you are trying to learn english can you himself understand what are you writing, which types of words are you using , don't write when you don't know how to write you can use simple words that everybody can understand

  • @Flopsterhajs
    @Flopsterhajs Месяц назад +17

    But i think drip and love in my heart is so good especially their b side track billionaire amazing yeah they improving and yg stop copying blackpink from drip album

  • @VIBEKORE
    @VIBEKORE Месяц назад +9

    1:33 it's make no sense 😅 you want inspirational and motivational song, then go listen DREAM BM per debut song!!
    2:50 You called BM BP2.0?? When BP is 2NE1 2.0 😂😂

  • @Hara_Mine
    @Hara_Mine 29 дней назад +1

    It is important to note that BP didn't actually start with success they got their popularity maybe 3 years after comeback with klt. You can't except babymonster, a rookie group, to have the same success as BP. They need time to gather listeners and so far I think they are doing pretty good for a rookie group.

    • @Xiwangloo
      @Xiwangloo  29 дней назад

      Babymonster extremely popular and I did not say about anything about that , I just give some notes I had to their debut only ...... Babymonster members extremely talented also there is no doubt about it , i only debut songs

  • @farichatulchusna706
    @farichatulchusna706 28 дней назад

    While I am agree on some of your point, I want to pressured on 1 thing *THEIR DEBUT SONG*.
    I was there when Blackpink dropped Boombayah and Whistle. I tell you, everyone went wild with it!. Their debut song feel so fresh and unique compared to competitors back then and even compared to their predecessor : 2NE1!. It seems like their debut song and stage was very well prepared.
    On the other hand, Baby Monster debut felt rushed without certain musical identity. It such a shame that talented people like them being given a crap song. Even stuck on the middle and Drip didn't do it for me
    ...

  • @s0lar-m2p
    @s0lar-m2p Месяц назад +1

    was interested predebut but yg wasted their talent... they suit other concepts much better based on covers the girls have done predebut and now plus how the girls act, they act sincere and deep, not a lot of "boss energy" vibes. A lot of the girls have great voices but its not showcased properly. they suit literally any other concept much better. They're also young and just debuted. It doesn't feel genuine.
    At least with Blackpink and Meovv it feels genuine to them as people and artists. Meovv was more luxury and did those things before debut so it makes sense for them to talk about being rich and famous and they've had an emotional track too, same as Blackpink...

  • @Triplemillionseller7454
    @Triplemillionseller7454 Месяц назад +6

    Babymonster flop debut but black pink don't that is simple

  • @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh
    @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh Месяц назад +10

    These all things are bullshit😑😑 , if the song is good no matter what the concept , mv , dresses are being used , if babymonster had released drip as their debut album they will not have to face all this , blackpink songs were good from the start , but now babymonster has developed their unique identity as talented and all rounder group they are not using too much rich vibes in their mv they also released love in my heart mv which has just pure , natural, fun vibe

    • @Xiwangloo
      @Xiwangloo  Месяц назад

      Love in my heart is my favourite i keep listening day and night 🤩🤩🤩🤩

    • @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh
      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh Месяц назад +2

      @Xiwang希望 so why don't you mentioned it now babymonster had developed their unique image they are more close to treasure not blackpink, they always trying to comback with a new concept , new type of mv , but Blackpink had a similar style this is the biggest difference why don't you mentioned it , now no one will accused them to copy blackpink because everyone knows they are different, some haters are now criticising them to not look like blackpink 2.0 they said meovv is more close to bp😅😅 they always have a reason to hate

    • @Xiwangloo
      @Xiwangloo  Месяц назад +1

      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh I said it in last part their last album drip started showing members true identity and talented.....

    • @Xiwangloo
      @Xiwangloo  Месяц назад

      @S2458hzxcvbiyhhh I also did video blackpink and meovv you can check it out also

  • @mami11420
    @mami11420 Месяц назад

    Their rapping style bugged me a bit cuz it was way too much like Lisa and Jennie - like way too much. YG boy groups don’t sound alike (imho) so Blackpink and babymonster shouldn’t either. But they’re talented young girls/women and I will always wish them the best and to succeed in fulfilling their dreams. I hope this industry doesn’t break them in any way. That includes the kpop community all together too. I’m excited to watch them grow. I’m not the biggest fan of them but I always check in to see what they’re doing! I want them to succeed in everything they want to succeed in!

  • @alanaatkinson551
    @alanaatkinson551 Месяц назад +2

    Because the sound is outdated, they are minors, the music quality is trash and none of them have a persona that sticks out.

  • @lemonaidebey6190
    @lemonaidebey6190 Месяц назад +1

    Agree

  • @ijlegaspi1093
    @ijlegaspi1093 Месяц назад

    100% real talk!
    Hate is making people DUMB!

  • @simple_me5283
    @simple_me5283 Месяц назад +2

    Grup yg langsung sukses n populer SNSD,bigbang,exo,Twice,BP,NJ ..grup lain hrs melalui anak tangga

  • @LindsayAprochamefat
    @LindsayAprochamefat Месяц назад

    who cares everytime babymonster realese new song, the virus haters and critics, create divasting thought. so why this do, because they jelouse, they are imatiating, so they try to crash this group, to make spreading hate,
    try& try all you haters you cannot stop bamonster to fame even if you cry untill you die,

  • @jasonlui
    @jasonlui Месяц назад

    It a bit silly comparing a 7 piece group to a 4 piece group. I would say there are certain things BM do which are better than BP and vice versa. If you keep comparing then you just end up non appreciative of other people and artists.

  • @HiImCool2008
    @HiImCool2008 Месяц назад +7

    There's also a difference, Blackpink's music is actually good, can't say the same abt Babymonster

  • @nuvaries7042
    @nuvaries7042 Месяц назад +3

    BP thrive in a expending kpop market which is now saturated and there's too many groups. Nobody will be able to replicate BP's success. Also BM depend too much on BP's fan. No viral song to reach new audience

    • @nuvaries7042
      @nuvaries7042 Месяц назад

      @rikakasumi2002 you answer your own question. Not all BP fans stan BM but even a fraction is enough for the current popularity. Being viral and popular are different, no one outside kpop ever heard their songs.

    • @nuvaries7042
      @nuvaries7042 Месяц назад

      @@rikakasumi2002 As i said BP had things much easier. If they debuted in this gen they Won't be as successful as they would have to compete with so many groups. Even BM is lucky they have such a big fanbase behind them even before their debut

  • @Sandrinarhonda
    @Sandrinarhonda Месяц назад +2

    I liked Babymonster’s batter up , and then YG went downhill with terrible choreography and screaming . I’m not interested in them anymore

  • @ssen7857
    @ssen7857 Месяц назад +8

    The only problem BM has is no good songs..

    • @MissJennieKim718
      @MissJennieKim718 Месяц назад +4

      I agree

    • @Adrielinho
      @Adrielinho Месяц назад +5

      I agree too, they are over talent, have incredible voices, dance skills and everything else, but the company feels lost not giving them songs that fit with those abilities.

    • @minjuscookie
      @minjuscookie Месяц назад +2

      Just because you hate heavy beat songs doesn't mean it's bad ☠️like someone can like ILLIT songs but hate Babymonster and someone can also like Babymonster songs but hate ILLIT songs

    • @minjuscookie
      @minjuscookie Месяц назад +2

      Billionaire and Forever are good songs

    • @urlvlycat00
      @urlvlycat00 29 дней назад

      Only forever is enjoyable song rest is like listening to children trying to be rapers . Im sorry but BM don't suit girl boss at all

  • @iagreewithyou3478
    @iagreewithyou3478 Месяц назад +1

    The only answer is BM inherited BP's haters.

  • @CutiePie-hh3gg
    @CutiePie-hh3gg Месяц назад +4

    Who cares

  • @Anastasia-q6e3e
    @Anastasia-q6e3e Месяц назад +4

    Bp have success only after 2 years with dududu. Babymonster one year group. If you talk about views, why you don't say that debut song baemon sheesh in 6 month has 300 million, debut bp boombaya at 6 months even don't have 100 million. Even batter up faster reach 200 million than boombaya. And yes, babymonster better than bp in vocals, rap and dance🤟

  • @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV
    @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV Месяц назад +5

    Another XG clone.

    • @abgbotaktv1598
      @abgbotaktv1598 Месяц назад +2

      U still in kpop comment while u say u not kpop stan??? Get ur funk out it here.... I know u obsess with babymonster..just admit it..hahahhaahhahahaha

    • @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV
      @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV Месяц назад

      @abgbotaktv1598
      "How dare you speak the truth! How dare you?! Waahh waaah waaah 🥹😫😭😭😭"

    • @abgbotaktv1598
      @abgbotaktv1598 Месяц назад

      @@UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV yeahh..the truth is u so obsessed with babymonster but u still delusional.. begging for XG attention but people like u destroying XG fandom..hahhahaha...XG not same level with babymonster achievement because to many people like u in XG fandom...hahhahahahhah ...

    • @II_II555
      @II_II555 Месяц назад +1

      XG clone? Who tf is XG? Let them get big first then find their copycats😂

    • @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV
      @UR.FaVs.ARE.a.FAN.of-My-FaV Месяц назад +1

      @@II_II555 step out of your K-pop bubble and you won't hear anything about your K-pop favs. All you hear from people is how great XG is. Don't believe me? Try stepping out of your K-pop bubble.

  • @Kpop_jokes
    @Kpop_jokes Месяц назад +12

    Babymonster much better than blackpink , dance , vocal , visual all better than blackpink 😂😂😂😂

    • @Starlitcake
      @Starlitcake Месяц назад +17

      Stop hating on blackpink bro... you're just embarrassing yourself

    • @Kpop_jokes
      @Kpop_jokes Месяц назад +4

      ​@Starlitcake I love blackpink but let’s be honest babymonster much better than blackpink in any way , vocal , dance , visual more better than blackpink

    • @Starlitcake
      @Starlitcake Месяц назад +8

      @Shsniduvaaii we already know that but you're just downplaying blackpink just because babymonster is more talented doesn't mean Blackpink is not. You can like babymonster more than blackpink but you don't have unnecessarily rude about it towards blackpink.

    • @Euphoria-d5t
      @Euphoria-d5t Месяц назад +1

      Now this is to much 😅

    • @dandeliondotterel
      @dandeliondotterel Месяц назад +6

      Yes they're better in vocals and dance. Bad in executing. Each member try hard to Overshadowed other members. Ahyeon always scream. Chiquita over expression always. Look cringe. Atleast BP all members have good stage Presence. Never overshadowed each other. ​@@Kpop_jokes