Conservatives brace for ‘Eurosceptic right-wing purity test’ leadership race
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- “There's a risk here that the Tories overcomplicate what's happened.”
The Conservatives risk “leading themselves further down some sort of cul-de-sac” away from voters if they don’t come to terms with the reasons why they lost the election and what the electorate really wants, say Rachel Sylvester and Patrick Maguire.
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I have no doubt the Tories will continue to devour themselves......but at least this time they are in charge of nothing
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Yep, at least they can't drag the country down further with them now.
Sadly, they're still in control of a lot of local councils.
@@CensorshipRebel Not sure it's sad, given that the councils that went bust, in recent history, were disproportionately Labour-run.
@@abishev I agree, but we're making the mistake of thinking tories and Labour work for different people.
They don't.
They work together to ensure their privileged status remains intact regardless of WHICH party got elected.
They're all in this together, the elites, and we won't make any progress whatsoever until we figure that out.
The rich are assaulting the people, and propaganda is dividing the reactions.
They need to be held to account !
good, never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake
Even in opposition the Conservatives see themselves as swimming in luxury, self entitlement and claiming the aristocratic high ground. Whats next? lets all go fox hunting ?...give me a break.
@@planestrainsdogsncars4336 because THEY ARE swimming in luxury.
The political types are all friends.
They work together to ensure their strangleholdnon on power remains intact irrespective of which side of te uni party state is currently in power.
To quote the great George Carlin, "these people have shared interests. Theyre members of the same country clubs. They attend the same functions."
Labkur, tory, libdems, greens, they all work together to ensure they never lose their privileged status.
@@CensorshipRebel Yes voting was pointless , so I didn't bother and didn't give them my consent or legitimacy .
I thought the bexit vote was bad enough, but the fact that the Tories got anything other than ZERO SEATS is proof that the Brits love voting against their own self interest 😂😂😂😂
Well they did vote for Labour with only 5% of those who did so agreeing with their policies (YouGov pole).
how is voting for starmer helping anyone unlessd your muslim or WEF
@@2frogland You can't seriously believe that!
The British voted against their own best interests this time.
Turkeys voting for. Christmas springs to mind!
@@liayoung4534 of course i do its a fact ,starmer even said he prefers davos to westminster
We need people in politics because they care about others. We don't need filthy, greedy criminals who are only in politics for what they can gain.
The good guys get weeded out very early on. All that’s left are people that think alike. Why is this the case? Well, that’s you going down globalist/internationalist conspiracy “theories”.
So why Elect Labour then, that's what you got! Check out the crimes in the last parliamentary period.
"He who desires to lead must first be a servant."
- Jesus Christ
We need mps that are right leaning
Like watching a group of first class passengers (no poor people allowed) in a Titanic lifeboat arguing about who should be captain of the sunken ship.
Oh well they can continue to try and out do reform and stay in opposition.
Once Labour makes the same mistakes as the Conservatives, Reform will steal the Labour supporters devastating Labour Party too! 😂
@@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974 If.
REFORM has now grown to 65,000 members - +60% in one month. Roll on the next few years..
@@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974delisounal all they offer is Johnsonian levels of chaos.
They have no answers just scratch the surface and every single policy spells chaos and unworkable
@@bobbugwithoneeyeskingiskin8974 Reform have a ceiling of about 20% . Labour wont pander to them like the Tories did
It is no laughing matter. The interest of the country must be kept at the forefront .
Maybe someone should have told the Tories that during the past 14 years.
There is one certainty about the Tory leadership contest, dare I say you can bet on it, and that is whatever versions of crazy the last two contenders may be, when those two are put to the party membership to decide, the members will choose the most crazy one.
The Tories have to place themselves into a position where they can hold themselves to account before they can think about holding the government to account.
They should pick an unknown from the backbenches. An older guy who speaks well and doesn’t seem soulless. And he should get rid of suella and Jenrick and co and focus on making the party seem presentable again. Continuing the circus won’t help them.
If the Tories want the voters back they better hope they don't watch the Rory Stewart interview on Triggernometry
What's left of thier voter base is moderate only glued together by the dystopia fiction of a Labour government.
That will fracture given that if nothing else Starmer intends to govern not spend 5 years posturing and infighting.
Since 2010 the cons have put party 1st people are sick of the chaos
An actual conservative would be a good start.
They need to get out and talk to the voters, find out what their real priorities are.
does anyone actually expect farrage to turn up and do any work, it's not what he was known for as an MEP
He's already at his ceiling. He's got a lot of things to make up that he has no intention of following through on - for next time!
Will the Speaker keep calling on Farage in PMQs to keep the right divided? 😊
He is a music hall entertainer always wants to be in the limelight.
He will have to work hard everyday for five years He won’t do it !
Ever seen what the chamber looks like most days? Even if that is what he does he wouldn't stand out.
'Corrupt and incompetent' Yep ; As always!
Its a great pity these three tories kept their seats, especially the very right wing Jenryck and Braverman... the tory party needed a thorough clean out, and these 3 are like left behind empty beer cans that need binning...either that or a major change in the way they think.
Aww! Do you mean think like you do? Lol, no room for democracy and different points of view. Let's all become Stepford wifeys...
The Tory party needed a change in HOW THEY THINK... Do you understand the concept of democracy? Or how about free will and free speech...
A lot of these criticisms seem to be given by people who never voted Tory. Even if the Tories add back all their former voters who voted for the Lib Dems then they are at about 170-175 seats. Add another couple people who voted Labor because the party has tacked socially towards the center and you are still at maybe 190-200. Then though you lose more of your vote to Reform. So you slide back to maybe 160 and Labor still forms a majority of 100 or so. Alternatively, they say most of the Lib Dem voters are a lost cause and focus on uniting with Reform and getting those voters back onside who didn't vote this time. (Predominantly populist right wing voters). That is about 40-45% of the population enough to win a comfortable majority.
@@gillian6526 Oh, they can keep their points of view, Jenryck and Braverman, just so long as they're not actually in power. But they're not getting the message are they...
@@Joeshapiro7 I have voted Conservative once, years back, but the point is, this last government wasn't really conservative - it was a Brexit government, and they only gave office to brexiteers. All the centrists were chucked out when Johnson became Prime Minister, so they may have called themselves conservatives, but they absolutely were not. The winnowing down and focusing on those who supported Brexit meant a distinct shortage of talent in the party, so there wasn't much to pick from in terms of skilled, rational government. Plus their focus was first on Party and Money, with the wellbeing of the people and the country very much third.
Only a Brexiteer leader will do or the Tories are finished and Reform will become stronger.
It is irrelevant. Brexit is a busted flush and those still clinging to that sinking ship will jus be marginalised. The process of rejoining, which will take a long time, starts now.
Good to see the EU referendum and brexit finally solve the rifts in the tory party. 😂😂😂
There goes the Tories for another 10 years
Everyone is speculating about who will be the tory leader. I think it would also be wise to think about who will end up in the shadow cabinet. And add to that, which tories will end up on Parliamentary inquiries and investigations, with the sole purpose of disrupting and covering up investigations into 14 years of tory mismanagement and corruption.
New faces are needed no one wants reminders of the past.
Cats in a bag total political irrelevance. Pass the popcorn.
Who will write the obituary of the Tory party? It has to be done.
Farage.
@@leehighland5435not really he just represents a different brand of chaos and the last gasp of angry white boomers
@@SlowhandGreg
I am half turkish and I know about racism, you reek of it.
@@SlowhandGreg
I am half turkish and I know about racism, you reek of it.
@@leehighland5435 I'm half Polish my generation have a lot to answer for, bribed bt Thatcher now leaving nothing for generation rent.
Farage stinks of decay
we have the luxury of being opposition.....along with 5 years of free wages yippee......
That's the very thing that'll keep them out of office
Lifting 2 child cap should be way down the list of importance and is being suggested as something to champion as a potentially popular idea or policy.
Conservative must not appoint Sheuela as next leader.
It's the post-Major years again.
What responsibility does the Murdoch media bear for 14 years of tory government....and the likes of brexit, Bunter and Truss?
WAHH WAHH BWEXIT WAHH
lots
Be careful as some of us are thinking the same thing about BBC, Channel 4, ITV Sky news, academia etc.
certainly blood on Murdoch's hands as usual. He is a real worldwide horror, especially in the US with Fox News
@@michaelfern4079 That's because you're so far right that even the centre is left to you.
I don't remember having an 80 seat majority being such a headache for Boris Johnson. Or is it one rule for the Tories and ..... Plus ca change
Labour need to take good advantage of their honeymoon period, otherwise, it wanes fast.
Tories on the other hand must first consider talking to their remaining loyal members who despite their woeful outing and absolute bashing, still wemt out to canvas, vote and gave them more seats than forecasted. They need healing, they need some closure, before the MPs start talking about leadership of the party. As matter of moral fact, letting the members decide who they want as the leader would send a message of humility and a party that's ready to change to the rest of the country. But I doubt they'd do so, with Suella already relishing the pleasure snd the luxury of being in the opposition. Beyond her words, her body language and nuances speak louder 🗣️
May the new government succeed.
I'd love to vote for a small government, low tax, fiscally conservative party with a strong sense of tradition. But would never vote for the conservative party in it's current form. They do not seem like serious people who have treat their briefs when in power with a shocking disregard to their role as elected officials. I will remain forever in disgust at some of the crass stupidity on public display from the likes of Patel when at the IDF, Braverman as home secretary and Badenoch at the Equalities brief, and the entitled grift occurring virtually everywhere else. In fact, with the apparent demise of one nation conservatism I and many others like me will actively vote to keep them out of power.
None of these discussions on Tory Party take account of the solid conservative members who’ve been let down… now they are marching with their feet and joining Reform UK membership
They are deluded and ttheir demographic is dying off.
why would that be a danger for them? it’s the only way they’ll survive
England Awake
Maybe the child benefit cap will be lifted by Labour once the country has the money to afford it, is that not what responsible governments do, there are so many problems to be sorted it will take time.
They have to find 18 billion to stop planned cuts 1st
Larry would be the best choice
Sunak must go to ICC
They can keep the wets. We'll take the real Tories... And three quarters of their membership with them!
Well, Sunack's speech is a verygood and powerful so he may stay as a leader of Conservative party so 3028-9 his party mat will reget their power again.....
Lazy stereotyping of the various smaller parties here. The only hard left MP so to speak is Jeremy Corbyn. Do your research and engage brain before opening mouth.
He actually wanted a social democracy like Sweden.
They have to beat reform, that’s it.
Having voted leave shouldn't be a requirement.
Believing given the referendum result we should have left and should stay out till another vote in 40s at earliest is a requirement. For Believing in democracy / mental age above 7 / understanding losers consent.
That means the Tories will be in the wilderness for decades.
It's funny that all the Westminster Journalists don't think those who support the party, the members, who back it, get out and campaign for it, should have any sort of meaningful say in who should be leader. I suppose mixing with only those in Westminster who are the MPs, who i guess tell them what a problem the members are, and Journalists hardly speak to the members. If MPs want to decide for themselves, then stand up and say so. Members can then decide whether they want to be part of a party that excludes them and just see's them as proles to run around and leaflet and campaign for the great and the good at elections.
@@gw1718 I think it was the MPs who gave the members the two choices to choose from, so perhaps a mirror is needed by them to see who they are putting forward to the members. I find it funny that MPs talk about how important members are but now don't want them to have a say on who leads them. I am not saying whether it's a right system or wrong, it's the hypocrisy of MPs. I suppose it's like all self important people, they know best.
The rank and file Tory membbership are a bunch of rather superannuated out of touch fossils. They can be counted on to make the wrong decision.
Change the... Wording.... So called Right Wing.... To... DEMOCRACY*.... So called Left wing to.... Communism *
ah yes, someone dictating how and what words you should use to describe something. so which are you? extreme left cancel culture, or extreme right blurting out free speech while encouraging others not to do so?
No doubt a contradictory individual!
Nationalism is not Democracy
@@dog_chasing_cars7576 Both your....... ignorance and arrogance......... Came before.... You*. It's clarity itself... Thay you need well defined... Boxes.... In order to function at some... Level within present so called.......... ...... Society *
Is every conservative mp now a shadow minister?
Sounds more and more like the Waffen SS who had to be able to prove their German ancestry
I wonder which group in parliament would have to prove non-jewish ancestry?
@frederickjones532 surely not labour 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Being on the left of Labour doesn't mean your hard left, that was a sly smear from the presenter
Cry n cope...😂
Race is Real 😮
Well, as American election fight between previous President, Donal Trump and the present President, Joe Biden, Dunack keeps as a Tory leader and 4-5 years meet the previous Leader and the present Leader can fight to be a new Prime- Minister.. isn't a good idea? Hive onemire a chance to Sunack!!!!!! It eiuld be quite interesting.....😅😅😅😅😊😊😊😊😊
Ditch net zero.
And condemn our grandchildren to a catastrophic future. Are you brain dead or something? With every successive year the consequences of doing nothing are becoming more and more apparent.
The Tory party is a party that is slowly dying. Everyone knows this, except Tory MP's, and some diehard Tory voters.
Without being able to attract younger voters in significant numbers - the party has no longer-term future. And by refusing to reach out to the rest of Europe, this will further alienate younger voters, keen to see the UK repair its relations with Europe.
And it's worth pointing out that the stridently right-wing voters have already crossed over to Reform UK, and I doubt they'll be tempted back. Why would they go back? When Farage is absolutely 'talking their language'.
While more moderate Tory voters have either switched allegiance to Labour, or the Lib Dems...the latter clearly seen in the massive number of new seats the Lib Dems won.
Unless the next Tory leader stops trying to 'out-right' Reform UK, the Tory party will be dead ten years from now.
Within 10 years young people will be claiming Universal Basic Income and living in the Metaverse…
Labour will have presided over the greatest extent of impoverishing the nation has ever seen… tax hikes are set to back fire catastrophically… legal immigration continues to rise well into 2027… you’ll see no “growth” on these islands without it - these’s been no national growth plan to address skill gaps and impediments to successful business creation…
Centre right, centre left parties seek power - they don’t seek to resolve fundamental long term issues…
Reform are true tories - they’ll never get power once people move past immigration and look into the sorts of policies Reform-curious hardliners like myself want to pass…
It’s also highly likely Labour will put boots on the ground in Ukraine as part of new cooperation pacts it’s seeking with the EU. EU membership per se is a pipe-dream - EU hardliners will make dropping the pound sterling a red line plus freedom of movement will need probably another 10 years to get new bloods to vote for it…
There's a fallacy in your argument that Tory party is in inevitable decline because their voters are old and dying out. A significant segment of the electorate change their allegiance over time so that the majority of younger voters have always been left-wing and the majority of older voters have always been right-wing.
However, there has been some shift in that phenomenon over the past decade or so. The age at which the majority switches from left-wing to right-wing has been getting older. I would suggest that is happening because so many younger people in their 30s and 40s can never afford to get onto the property ownership ladder. Older votes do get out and vote so politicians redistribute wealth towards them even more. They are not just spending their children's inheritance; they're squandering their children's savings too.
Be careful Times Radio, your bias via the choice of words and phrases is showing. You are sounding more like the BBC rather than the balanced objective assessment I would expect.
If Tory select a remianer like Atkins, one nation controlled Tories will be reduced to 50 seats approx in GE28.
I predicted in 2022 that they would be reduced to 120 seats in a summer 2024 GE, after they got rid of Boris.
The Labour party will split with corbynites forming a new party with about 50 to 100 red MP's
Prof AGHaq
if boris stayed they would have been wiped
Race... Purity test... I would never guess where you're coming from 😂and who could tell what you're trying to say
This video is meandering nonsense.
Whenever I see the British spelling I read it as "septic" rather than "skeptic"
It's Tories; septic works well enough
"Today, Russia struck many cities in Ukraine. Kyiv, Kryvyi Rih, Dnipro, cities of our Donetsk region. In particular, they hit the children's hospital - "Okhmatdyt", the department where children were receiving dialysis was hit," Zelenskyi said.
He added that residential buildings were also damaged, and demolition of the debris is ongoing.
"More than 100 people were injured, as of this time, 27 people are known to have been killed by this strike," the president noted.
Biden failed to give suficent military support to Ukrain
Cool story bro.
Blame MAGA for tying Biden's hands.
@@rogerphelps9939 BIDEN HAD ON TABLE APROVED LEND-LEASE he killed it and gave smaller help to die slow
I think you and the Tories are dead and irrelevant .. surplus to our requirements ... Bye bye