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  • Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
  • Political analyst Professor Sethulego Matebese warns the ANC should be careful of how it treats the DA in the GNU.
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Комментарии • 225

  • @bonganinkwanyana6038
    @bonganinkwanyana6038 8 дней назад +16

    The other parties are only there for their stomach

  • @user-oi7vx1in5x
    @user-oi7vx1in5x 8 дней назад +15

    A three party coalition would have been ideal. The GNU is a coalition, after all. All these micro parties are overcomplicating matters.

  • @user-oi7vx1in5x
    @user-oi7vx1in5x 8 дней назад +37

    The ANC must be humble. They lost their majority.

    • @MrRobertzingela
      @MrRobertzingela 8 дней назад

      But that doesn't mean that the racist DA must get all critical ministerial positions.

    • @spandel100
      @spandel100 7 дней назад

      @@MrRobertzingela Why would you say that the least racist party of all the parties is racist?Unless you are the racist.It seems only whites can be racist and not other races.This is all BS.And the DA must get all critical positions for the sake of the country.We need to fix things not break things even more.Think baba think!

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 7 дней назад +1

      ​@MrRobertzingela look at it this way,the anc has pretty much stuffed up everything,give the DA a chance to turn things around and learn from it,then u can moan and groan

    • @spandel100
      @spandel100 7 дней назад

      @@tanialouw8246 My similar comment was deleted.What is with all this ridiculous censorship?

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 7 дней назад

      @@spandel100 probably captured by the anc too🤣,have a good day further

  • @EdmundWilliamWessels
    @EdmundWilliamWessels 8 дней назад +48

    That is why the DA wanted to limit the GNU party members. To many parties leads to chaos.

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +12

      No, they wanted to hold the anc by it's balls. Anc said GNU and not a coalition. And don't forget the Moonshot pact where the DA wanted the same parties so that they can over power the ANC. Strangely it was the 1st to bolt running to be number with the Anc and shut out the other parties

    • @esilevinichronicles4269
      @esilevinichronicles4269 8 дней назад +2

      ​@@ThamiNdlalane Tell them their eyes are closed now. The ANC has put all pawns in the middle. The DA can walk away if they want to

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +3

      @@esilevinichronicles4269 if they walk out, the EFF will come in. That is the last thing the DA wants. The EFF should call their bluff.

    • @esilevinichronicles4269
      @esilevinichronicles4269 8 дней назад +2

      @@ThamiNdlalane That would be a strategic chess move. The DA is a paper tiger soon to be irrelevant and they want to be taken seriously, why?

    • @NHerbst84
      @NHerbst84 8 дней назад

      ​@@ThamiNdlalaneEver wondered why they did what they did.They want Anc to not rule SA because they fucked up for 30 years.

  • @maverickat4544
    @maverickat4544 8 дней назад +17

    Coalition governments in Europe and elsewhere in the world can take months to be concluded. What is the crazy haste here in South Africa? GNU cannot afford to make mistakes. There is simply too much at stake right now. South Africans must exercise patience and allow the political parties to find the balance between pragmatism and power.

    • @glantedavid9728
      @glantedavid9728 8 дней назад +2

      There is no hurry in South Africa 😂😂😂

    • @TheeAspire2InspirePodcast
      @TheeAspire2InspirePodcast 8 дней назад +1

      The markets are already sick 😢

    • @user-lb3le4rs8m
      @user-lb3le4rs8m 8 дней назад

      ABSOLUTELY. This is not 5 day 5 week or 5 month agreement. They must dot all ghe i's and cross all the t's. PLEASE read the fine prints VERY carefully. ALL we need is Ubuntu

    • @jomomkhize1438
      @jomomkhize1438 7 дней назад

      @@TheeAspire2InspirePodcast for white people we know no nothing about that we have no businesses may be you forgot.

  • @cobuslombard8546
    @cobuslombard8546 8 дней назад +51

    The gravy train must be derailed

    • @sharingfamspace3156
      @sharingfamspace3156 8 дней назад +7

      Everyone seem to love the gravy train and hate it when they are not part of it.

  • @comancheflyer4903
    @comancheflyer4903 8 дней назад +12

    Two is company, three is a crowd.

  • @jasonroberts9794
    @jasonroberts9794 8 дней назад +12

    GNU sounds nice but if they put the interests of SA first then it would be the best person for the job, this should not be taking this long.

  • @kayonasteven8245
    @kayonasteven8245 8 дней назад +10

    Steehuisen's DA is the king maker here , once he pulls out of this marriage then we can't no longer talks about GNU, he should demand the vice president position

    • @comancheflyer4903
      @comancheflyer4903 8 дней назад +2

      Wrong. Can you imagine something should happen to Ramaphosa and John becomes president?

    • @runningman2989
      @runningman2989 8 дней назад +6

      ​@@comancheflyer4903that would be a good thing a racist like you can't fathom

    • @Gerrard_yardy
      @Gerrard_yardy 8 дней назад

      DA got the ANC by the balls , I hope they continue to squeeze until the corrupt comrades fold .

    • @casualSimRacer3312
      @casualSimRacer3312 8 дней назад

      ​@@comancheflyer4903that would be a miracle

    • @jomomkhize1438
      @jomomkhize1438 7 дней назад

      @@runningman2989 The bigger one is you white man

  • @debbieditsele8333
    @debbieditsele8333 8 дней назад +8

    This is a time to reflect greed Pride and also no blame game and take time to do the right thing not to be rushed no need to be impatient lets all take a deep breath wish SOUTH AFRICANS GOOD LUCK

  • @Gerrard_yardy
    @Gerrard_yardy 8 дней назад +6

    Viva DA viva , take them for everything you can get .

    • @Gerrard_yardy
      @Gerrard_yardy 8 дней назад

      @@Buliboy100 there's no gift horse there , the ANC are forced. No matter what they do from now on they're going down

  • @SiphoKaBhekuyiseNzuza-kb1jo
    @SiphoKaBhekuyiseNzuza-kb1jo 8 дней назад +7

    Stomach politics is at play here this is not about service delivery.

  • @johnjames4892
    @johnjames4892 8 дней назад +11

    If people can seat down and map a good vision for all of its people without greed oh re Vote

  • @GaragePie22
    @GaragePie22 8 дней назад +13

    The DA were extremely organised and prepared for this! The rest were not!

  • @petrosdlamini1761
    @petrosdlamini1761 8 дней назад +11

    😂anc is not willing to give DA positions 😂,so much for putting south africans first, politics is about numbers, service delivery come with luck or with leaders that love their country people.

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +1

      Where did you get that. Is it not the other way round where the DA is demanding seats. The latest they want 12.

    • @petrosdlamini1761
      @petrosdlamini1761 8 дней назад +3

      @@ThamiNdlalane that's demanding,in that 12 it's not just seats it's important seats.

    • @trudyneumann8945
      @trudyneumann8945 8 дней назад

      ​@@petrosdlamini1761- maybe then they'll work.

    • @petrosdlamini1761
      @petrosdlamini1761 8 дней назад

      @@trudyneumann8945 since when,we had this before in segregation ANC has always been an elite black people representative they never stood for black people honestly, that's why ANC has this problem today because of its freedom charter, where Zuma came in to expose the ANC agenda that they are not there to fight for natives, their job is to keep natives contained, that the same narrative being pushed by the gnu,we just forget that our people are poor,all of the sudden DA is party to the progressive movement of black people,it can't be that we make the same mistake,we can't be that naive because are so angry at Zuma, that's nonsense, the struggle is the same,gnu has been around for centuries nothing has done any difference,why are so quick to forget and be blinded by narratives that are meaningless,if DA cared about you and why they are against bee, NHI bill anything that is to uplift black people why today because they are going get ministerial positions now they about south Africa shame.not again.

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 7 дней назад

      ​@@ThamiNdlalanethe man is correct,it's about who can do the job.

  • @sharonadams9721
    @sharonadams9721 8 дней назад +6

    This a very measured analysis from the Professor - thank you.

  • @EdmundWilliamWessels
    @EdmundWilliamWessels 8 дней назад +8

    2 polical parties maybe 3 can work together but more will be chaotic.

  • @ulricgordon8586
    @ulricgordon8586 8 дней назад +7

    You have to realize that arrangements such as these in other countries normally take months to form a government.

  • @pieterjordaan73
    @pieterjordaan73 8 дней назад +24

    DA to lead this GNU...
    Honesty.....integrity....
    The people of Mzantsi have suffered too much under this corrupt. ANC GOVT...

    • @emihleluwaca2996
      @emihleluwaca2996 8 дней назад

      No thanks, if we wanted them to lead they would have been the party with 40%.

    • @jomomkhize1438
      @jomomkhize1438 7 дней назад

      Black people suffered not white people be honest

  • @GaragePie22
    @GaragePie22 8 дней назад +2

    This should take time, it cannot be rushed! These minister positions need to be well thought out! I'm glad they taking time!
    We are tired of thieves and fools leading us and getting paid big money to do it!

  • @user-yw6kr9qq7n
    @user-yw6kr9qq7n 8 дней назад +6

    Ramaphosa is facing the concequences

  • @sophiemashishi285
    @sophiemashishi285 8 дней назад +6

    Government of national chaos?

  • @johan4321able
    @johan4321able 8 дней назад +3

    Too many chiefs too little indians ? Look like we as south africans is going nowhere

  • @aarongunnz9513
    @aarongunnz9513 8 дней назад +15

    Economic development, finance, trade and industry, justice and public enterprise must go to DA.

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +1

      Based on what??

    • @jo-d-lo38
      @jo-d-lo38 8 дней назад +1

      In Europe maybe, not here.

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 8 дней назад +5

      @@ThamiNdlalane ANC have failed for 30yrs

    • @aarongunnz9513
      @aarongunnz9513 8 дней назад +1

      @@jo-d-lo38 its going to happen here in South Africa
      Or they may only give John Steenhuizen a deputy president post and all ministerial posts go to ANC and other parties so that John Steenhuizen can supervise them

    • @MzamoAdoons372
      @MzamoAdoons372 8 дней назад

      ​, based on the votes it got. The ANC did not win the elections.

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 8 дней назад +18

    DA is the only STRATEGIC partner ifor ANC In GNU.

    • @User-.-_007-s
      @User-.-_007-s 8 дней назад

      Zimbo shut up fix your country you want to destroy ours with your meddling but we will deal with you all

  • @tsekomofokeng182
    @tsekomofokeng182 8 дней назад +1

    Communities warned ANC years back. Is sweating now

  • @fredlenz4743
    @fredlenz4743 8 дней назад +2

    At last a guest talking sense.

  • @ThamiNdlalane
    @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +1

    The DA must never forget that the EFF is outside in the cold because they can't stand the DA. If the leave, EFF will gladly jump in. Is that what they want or are they will prevent the Anc/Eff merger?

  • @barbaradefaria5604
    @barbaradefaria5604 7 дней назад

    The saying goes that too many cooks spoil the broth...hope this will not be the case here

  • @anikadejongh
    @anikadejongh 8 дней назад

    They need to put their own personal gains aside and look at what would be best for the country, so our country can move forward and grow...

  • @user-tn7bw2zb8k
    @user-tn7bw2zb8k 8 дней назад +2

    Government of national positions GNP😂😂😂😂😂 we told u❤

  • @thomasgosling5155
    @thomasgosling5155 8 дней назад

    Once again the ANC backtracking on the initial signed agreement with the DA, no honour.

  • @ayandaakkhumalo2602
    @ayandaakkhumalo2602 8 дней назад +1

    Welcome ANC

  • @normanlangeveldt4664
    @normanlangeveldt4664 8 дней назад

    All those small parties are a total waste of time, they just there to feed their fat stomachs.

  • @glantedavid9728
    @glantedavid9728 8 дней назад +1

    There is no hurry in South Africa 😂😂😂

  • @DUMISANIMTSHIPULA
    @DUMISANIMTSHIPULA 8 дней назад +6

    Most of these smaller parties are funded by DA, in particular the IFP, remember ANC needs IFP in order to keep MK out of KZN

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад +2

      IFP is way older that the DA, please give some respect.

    • @barbaradefaria5604
      @barbaradefaria5604 7 дней назад

      Doesn't make sense...why would they want to weaken their own support base

  • @Demru_1
    @Demru_1 8 дней назад

    This was supposed to be an open forum like in a parliament, parties presenting or bidding for a portfolio and the best one takes it. This private secret is not good at all.

  • @dgm8004
    @dgm8004 8 дней назад +6

    Da should bow out cause all these people calling them Apartheid 2.0 and calling them power hungry and greedy do not deserve a stable government with them involved.give them ANC/EFF.let them suffer.

    • @mtizirawaylernyika7653
      @mtizirawaylernyika7653 8 дней назад +1

      If l call you a witch are you going to stop talking to me without proving you are not a witch ?

    • @dgm8004
      @dgm8004 8 дней назад +5

      @@mtizirawaylernyika7653 Are you having a stroke?

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 8 дней назад

      The DA has called other parties doomsday. Is the DA the only ones allowed to hurl insults at others?

    • @tanialouw8246
      @tanialouw8246 7 дней назад

      So what happens to those who cannot afford to leave when the country goes down.wake up,without the DA,many of us will become refugees elsewhere(GOD FORBID)🙏

  • @nontuthuzelombo1923
    @nontuthuzelombo1923 8 дней назад

    Remember these three parties do not repressnt the interests of all Souht Africans.Thank you there are some other parties who have joined otherwise the ANC seems like it cannot handle this DA bcoz is bullying them and Ramaposa is unable to criticize his partners .

  • @warickdonrastafarian
    @warickdonrastafarian 8 дней назад

    Mr ptesident you must wake up these people want to pay

  • @fransramohloa132
    @fransramohloa132 8 дней назад

    Everyone now wants a piece of the cake.

  • @lebohang8405
    @lebohang8405 8 дней назад +2

    I can see Zille giving everyone a hard time trying to impose her will during the negotiations. Makes me laugh at Ramaphosa

  • @user-cb8fd1hy9r
    @user-cb8fd1hy9r 8 дней назад

    Zyakhala, The wedding is not going forward 😂GNU,GNU, dololo ,makuti want to control the procedure, the umkhwenyana says now 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂

  • @siyandamolefe1867
    @siyandamolefe1867 8 дней назад

    Anc did not win gauteng or national elections and the choice of ministers must reflect that we Dont want anc running the show anymore other political parties of the GNU must be given ministerial positions

  • @bukib4407
    @bukib4407 8 дней назад

    The DA imagines itself a majority party in this coalition. Let's be honest, there is no GNU here.

  • @warickdonrastafarian
    @warickdonrastafarian 8 дней назад

    Ramaphosa is afraid one wrong step now and the anc is in truble

  • @Amor-zone
    @Amor-zone 8 дней назад

    😢😢😢

  • @user-wb2fq1tc3s
    @user-wb2fq1tc3s 8 дней назад

    Ramaphosa is self serving,DA has enough seats enough for him to avoid Phalaphala impeachment.

  • @spacemuis
    @spacemuis 8 дней назад +1

    Doringbos

  • @Percy-fi8ry
    @Percy-fi8ry 8 дней назад

    Polygamy hardly works.

  • @lensflash
    @lensflash 8 дней назад +13

    The DA should walk away from the GNU

    • @ThamiNdlalane
      @ThamiNdlalane 8 дней назад

      And leave power that they crave

    • @mokubung
      @mokubung 8 дней назад

      Even better.

    • @comancheflyer4903
      @comancheflyer4903 8 дней назад

      Power that's all they want.

    • @NHerbst84
      @NHerbst84 8 дней назад +2

      ​@@comancheflyer4903Well they have half of the Anc voters so entitled to have more positions than 3 offered by Anc.

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 8 дней назад

      That would be wonderful!

  • @Ritesh-yy1zr
    @Ritesh-yy1zr 8 дней назад +14

    John Steenhuizen for president

    • @Futhi.Johnson
      @Futhi.Johnson 8 дней назад +2

      You wish...!! You want chaos in this country ?

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 8 дней назад

      @@Futhi.Johnson there is a high possibility of him becoming a president or a deputy

    • @0761ZoRO
      @0761ZoRO 8 дней назад

      Certainly not over the country! Let him dethrone Windy.

    • @pathlongwane5820
      @pathlongwane5820 8 дней назад +1

      @@Futhi.Johnson In your dreams

    • @Bambi157
      @Bambi157 8 дней назад

      ​@@Futhi.Johnson just because he's white he can't lead the country?

  • @cliftonboyz1959
    @cliftonboyz1959 8 дней назад

    Short short that ZAR

  • @hgfku-tn6hb
    @hgfku-tn6hb 8 дней назад +18

    ANC should just have gone with other parties except DA that's holding parliament hostage

    • @garethmckerrell6888
      @garethmckerrell6888 8 дней назад

      and then? SA gets another 5 years of low economic growth, infrastructure collapse etc etc etc Clearly the ANC policies have not worked

    • @bonganiratema6974
      @bonganiratema6974 8 дней назад +2

      Very true

    • @lensflash
      @lensflash 8 дней назад

      The ANC seems to think they won an outright majority, it’s not the DA holding things up it’s the ANC and their entitlement. Follow the money, the ANC will be big losers and they don’t want that.

    • @suesykes6798
      @suesykes6798 8 дней назад

      No one's holding a gun to Ramaphosa's head, he's free to move on without DA if he so wishes.

    • @Kbredekamp
      @Kbredekamp 8 дней назад

      The DA are the only ones willing to work and keep the others accountable - ANC and others are worried as they can't steal anymore

  • @Itssophie277
    @Itssophie277 8 дней назад

    DA can go, mk is waiting

  • @comancheflyer4903
    @comancheflyer4903 8 дней назад +3

    Politics is not for the people, it's self interest period.

  • @MzamoAdoons372
    @MzamoAdoons372 8 дней назад

    The ANC did jot we n any eoections 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ZuzumziNgubo
    @ZuzumziNgubo 8 дней назад +2

    They should have just accepted the defeat and let go of ramaphosa cause all this ANC doesn't want to change Rama uhlulekile why ebhalantsa engathi yinja iyokilelwa.

  • @6e55d9dd
    @6e55d9dd 8 дней назад

    Fomocracy

  • @syabongsmfeka6720
    @syabongsmfeka6720 8 дней назад

    amazinyo kamjita jerrrrrr

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 8 дней назад

      Please be nice.

    • @amb549
      @amb549 8 дней назад

      Respect people.

    • @Percy-fi8ry
      @Percy-fi8ry 8 дней назад

      Ufunani emazinyweni kamjita😂😂😂😂😂

    • @syabongsmfeka6720
      @syabongsmfeka6720 7 дней назад

      @@Percy-fi8ry ayikabi kodwa ubafo akasavakasheli iDentist nje espana

    • @syabongsmfeka6720
      @syabongsmfeka6720 7 дней назад

      @@amb549 I do but no amazinyo, its not expensive to clean that thing

  • @danyon5099
    @danyon5099 8 дней назад +1

    I'm sort of glad for those other parties, imagine ANC and DA alone in parly,,we must remember SA doesn't just consist of blacks and whites,the coloureds also need a say with power in ther country,,if DA really had sort of cover the backs of the coloureds we wouldn't had this problem,, talking and doing played out in ther 15years,in WC,,if they could only have mentioned the coluered struggle,,and stopped worried about business and investors,,that's all that comes out ther mouths,,a playground here and food parcel ther that's not gonna change the coluered struggle

  • @DaveIsALegendPeriod
    @DaveIsALegendPeriod 8 дней назад

    ‘Political Analysts’ 😂

  • @SS-xt4kh
    @SS-xt4kh 8 дней назад +10

    DA should just walk away. No one will miss them...

    • @quadroblox4872
      @quadroblox4872 8 дней назад +2

      You mind expanding on that ?

    • @user-oi7vx1in5x
      @user-oi7vx1in5x 8 дней назад +6

      SA and the markets would miss them.

    • @user-jx7dz4ft1g
      @user-jx7dz4ft1g 8 дней назад +5

      The people that really want a difference for the better for all the people will definitely miss the DA .the only party that will stop the corruption and all evil people.

    • @yvonnememela918
      @yvonnememela918 8 дней назад +1

      ​@@user-oi7vx1in5xSA? 😂😂😂

    • @msizingubane9861
      @msizingubane9861 8 дней назад

      @@user-oi7vx1in5xu men’s u white people not the majority. And should they walk away eff n mk re waiting and will implement the policies tht u so scared of once we impeach your defense ramaphalphala 😅😂

  • @Thebear-tp1pm
    @Thebear-tp1pm 8 дней назад

    If the ANC sacrificed Ramaphosa from the start and merged with mk and eff we would have a government working for the people already

    • @glennborrageiro6257
      @glennborrageiro6257 8 дней назад +3

      Yes just the worst government we could imagine, a repeat of the last 30 yrs.

    • @trudyneumann8945
      @trudyneumann8945 8 дней назад

      Dream on. What exactly have either of those party leaders done for the people. Only enriched themselves and their families.

    • @siyandamolefe1867
      @siyandamolefe1867 8 дней назад +1

      As a black person I totally disagree I think black people would get poorer under that government

  • @0761ZoRO
    @0761ZoRO 8 дней назад +10

    The ANC is not in a crisis. The MK/EFF are there. The DA is dispensable.

    • @quadroblox4872
      @quadroblox4872 8 дней назад +2

      You are aware that MK refuse to work with the ANC right?

    • @ulricgordon8586
      @ulricgordon8586 8 дней назад +5

      If the EFF and MK come on board, the country is @#$%ed

    • @ImaanPule-ny4dx
      @ImaanPule-ny4dx 8 дней назад +2

      MKP is clear

    • @user-oi7vx1in5x
      @user-oi7vx1in5x 8 дней назад

      The country would be in crisis if MKP or the EFF got anywhere near power. MKP are Russian proxies in it for their own personal gain. The people of SA are a distant afterthought.

    • @blacxcellence8717
      @blacxcellence8717 8 дней назад +1

      Because you will manipulate the rand Nd markets ryt...​@@ulricgordon8586

  • @2xkilo2920
    @2xkilo2920 8 дней назад +1

    DA is not a problem the problem is Ramaphosa he is destroying ANC I’m sure he will sacrifice to defend his blunders

  • @Les12archanges
    @Les12archanges 8 дней назад

    😂😂😂

  • @user-iu9ir9xq4v
    @user-iu9ir9xq4v 8 дней назад +4

    Da must go is a problem

    • @NHerbst84
      @NHerbst84 8 дней назад

      DA is not the problem. ANC was the problem for 30 years. They want to continue stealing.

  • @mburumbaappolus6728
    @mburumbaappolus6728 8 дней назад +2

    "if your are an ANC strategist..." Does the ANC have any strategists left after Madiba, OR, Slovo, Hani & Thabo? I think not.

  • @sifisodube4686
    @sifisodube4686 8 дней назад +1

    Ramaphosa his really annoying me every time he keeps the country weighting. He loves controversy every time he has to be pushed in making decisions mr processing. He what’s to consults every body than taking decisions

    • @runningman2989
      @runningman2989 8 дней назад

      He is weak. I don't think he has the balls to make any real decision

  • @Sbusiso-mw9xm
    @Sbusiso-mw9xm 8 дней назад +1

    God must punish them.,

  • @andrewchipo9282
    @andrewchipo9282 8 дней назад

    Eff askd for finance everyone was going crazy now DA wants half of th ministry wt a joke

    • @trudyneumann8945
      @trudyneumann8945 8 дней назад

      TheDA would be an excellent oversee er of finance. Checks and balances are good. ANC EFF have proved themselves incompetant where other peoples money is concerned.

  • @shopekassie
    @shopekassie 8 дней назад

    The Ankole Buffalo sellout will never stop selling out.

  • @shimidioke1895
    @shimidioke1895 8 дней назад

    Ramaphosa is the Trojan horse, he is the main reason why DA is arrogantly demanding positions

  • @2xkilo2920
    @2xkilo2920 8 дней назад

    It shows that this Ramaphosa thing is failing im happy i have not vote for this sell out parties