I know TFP is suppose to be the continuation of WoC, and FoC, but sometimes moments where like this where Megatron doesn't even mention Trypticon breaks the lore connetion.
The aligned continuity is pretty much a whole mess with several plot contradictions and inconsistencies. Biggest one being that Soundwave was still speaking in the games when he's supposed to be silent.
@@desertsandfly2277 id like to consider the games not cannon to prime because there no way megatron would let starscream rejoin the decepticon after his treachery in fall of cybertron
@@christopherpeelerii9700 That is true, but the game provides way too rich of a Lore that it kinda places TFP in an awkward spot though. Dinobots, Combaticons, Metroplex, hell do you guys even notice that the keys to the Omega Lock actually is a copy of the 'False' Omega key Megatron took from Zeta Prime! Which also makes it kinda awkward how Megatron in TFP doesn't recognize it being the Omega Key, since the fight after Zeta Prime was where Megatron really almost got himself killed by Omega Supreme.
@corey-cg01 even if we never see his robot mode on TFP, we still have his voice And also I think thos confirmed that TFP took place after "fall of cybertron" that might a good theory in my opinion
@@kionsedale6686 Just because Hasbro says they're connected doesn't make it true. TFP literally contradicts the games and the writers said that they didn't want to be connected with the games. Anyone who watched TFP and played WFC/FOC have realized this. Hasbro tried to connect them with books and comics but failed miserably because entire plotpoints, characters, and events contradict the Cybertron games.
@MarsiB013 and yet they gave us the alt version yet a continuation of it For example 1. both FoC, and TFP, bumblebee never talked 2. Arcee mention jack about other autobots escape from the ark 3. Megatron in TFP managed to control dark energon just like how Megatron in WoC did 4. Is like I said in the description, it's just a theory
The way I see it, Trypticon has been in stasis for so long he probably forgot his name, because I can guarantee you if Hasbro’s higher ups let the writers have a little more time to cook this could’ve been a thing with Trypticon also trying to restore his T-Cog and get back at Megatron for basically paralyzing him for his failure.
Context: In the transformers video game War for Cybertron, Trypticon was defeated and captured by the autobots. Later on in the sequel, fall of Cybertron, Megatron "saves" Trypticon. But Megatron reminds him of his failure to destroy the autobots, so Megatron only "saved" him just to have him forcefully transformed against his will into the Nemesis warship. Which Soundwave comments that the transformation is permanent because Trypticon's T-cog was destroyed. As for why Megatron doesn't recognize Trypticon in Prime, that's mostly a writing issue since there's a ton of inconstancy and contradiction in the aligned continuity.
This reminds me, in a Transformers Prime Crossover Fanfic the author added that the reason why Nemesis/Trypticon is so single-mindedly focused on finding those artifacts (after putting all the inhabitants of the ship into stasis), is he hopes one of them can fix his T-cog or at least have him regain his ability to transform again.
The fanfic that you're referring to would be Code Prime, a crossover fanfic between the Transformers series and Code Geass. I've actually been reading a bit of it as well!
What Lorennzo says about TFOne being part of the Bayverse is the same reason the Aligned Continuity is a mess. It is a bunch of TF series trying their own wya but being forced to behave as if part of one plotline.
Imagine being loyal to megatron, failing your task and being punished by turning into his soaceship, then being reactivated after so long only for your master to not even remember you.
Megatron would know this is Trypticon fighting back against his enslavement, so this is confirmation that TF Prime and the Cybertron games aren’t connected.
I know that TFP and FOC are supposed to be connected, but even with this, there are too many inconsistencies and continuity errors for ANY connection between them to make any kind of sense, and fun fact: the writers for TFP specifically wrote the show to be distinct from any other continuity even though they were told by Hasbro executives to connect it to FOC and WFC, the people behind the show were kind of assholes
They probably expected to get their own show like the Animated guys did, only to be hit with a memo from Corporate that they'll have to play second fiddle to the Video Games team and follow their lead, which made them throw a bitchfit. Which isn't that surprising, imagine coming onto a project from a series that's been a heavy Comics and Cartoon juggernaut for the last 30 years, only to be told that the project is going to be headed by the C and D Team (Vidja and Books) because their respective industries print more money than God and the only reason you're there is because it's a tradition to have an animated show accompany a new toyline.
@@richardwulf1122 Honestly that's giving them too much credit, that wasn't the only blunder the TFP team made, they also wasted all of their budget and then some by hiring too many expensive voice actors, it ended up costing them so much money they had to cancel other shows on the same network as TFP, and bring the staff from said shows to work on Transformers Prime
@@astormtrooper189 Man it seems Hasbro managed to hire all the rebel rousers they could in the early 2010's, first Lauren Faust and her terminal case of Individualism and now this gaggle of numbnuts.
I refused to believe that wfc and tfp are in same continuity. Reasons: 1. The designs are different to each other 2. Their origin especially Optimus Prime was alot different 3. There was no mention about other character such as metroplex who literally sacrifice himself as Optimus stated "Your sacrifice will not be forgotten." Yet his sacrifice was forgotten 4. There's also no mention of Zeta Prime despite that he was some sort of Autobot commander. 5. In TFP, Ultra Magnus was commander of Autobot but in WFC it was Optimus Prime and Zeta Prime
@seanmarley3598 I believe there is a reason for not make a continuity, after the third game sequel *rise of the dark spark* so they decide they change it
@randomcelestialsapien115 true, but I have a theory that *prime* is a alt version of *WfC/FiC*? If you think about it, there are some dots connected between the show and the games, much like *transformers: robots in disguise*
They’re not connected in any way shape or form. The books don’t do shit neither. Trypticon in the game was torn apart by the portal in FOC along with the ark. Meaning this ship isn’t even trypticon it’s likely an ancient cybertronian locked in his alt mode.
I know TFP is suppose to be the continuation of WoC, and FoC, but sometimes moments where like this where Megatron doesn't even mention Trypticon breaks the lore connetion.
The aligned continuity is pretty much a whole mess with several plot contradictions and inconsistencies.
Biggest one being that Soundwave was still speaking in the games when he's supposed to be silent.
@@desertsandfly2277 id like to consider the games not cannon to prime because there no way megatron would let starscream rejoin the decepticon after his treachery in fall of cybertron
@@christopherpeelerii9700 That is true, but the game provides way too rich of a Lore that it kinda places TFP in an awkward spot though.
Dinobots, Combaticons, Metroplex, hell do you guys even notice that the keys to the Omega Lock actually is a copy of the 'False' Omega key Megatron took from Zeta Prime!
Which also makes it kinda awkward how Megatron in TFP doesn't recognize it being the Omega Key, since the fight after Zeta Prime was where Megatron really almost got himself killed by Omega Supreme.
@personal9372 maybe, but what if we prime was in alt time-line of WoC, and FoC just as we know in cyberverse
Because it's not supposed to be Hasbro says that Not the Shows Creators.
Trypticon reactivated from stasis and chose violence.
@corey-cg01 even if we never see his robot mode on TFP, we still have his voice
And also I think thos confirmed that TFP took place after "fall of cybertron" that might a good theory in my opinion
@@kionsedale6686 No TFP has nothing to do with WFC/FOC. The show contradicts the games. TFP writers didn't care about the games.
@@MarsiB013 their company show's otherwise 🤷♂️
@@kionsedale6686 Just because Hasbro says they're connected doesn't make it true. TFP literally contradicts the games and the writers said that they didn't want to be connected with the games.
Anyone who watched TFP and played WFC/FOC have realized this.
Hasbro tried to connect them with books and comics but failed miserably because entire plotpoints, characters, and events contradict the Cybertron games.
@MarsiB013 and yet they gave us the alt version yet a continuation of it
For example
1. both FoC, and TFP, bumblebee never talked
2. Arcee mention jack about other autobots escape from the ark
3. Megatron in TFP managed to control dark energon just like how Megatron in WoC did
4. Is like I said in the description, it's just a theory
The way I see it, Trypticon has been in stasis for so long he probably forgot his name, because I can guarantee you if Hasbro’s higher ups let the writers have a little more time to cook this could’ve been a thing with Trypticon also trying to restore his T-Cog and get back at Megatron for basically paralyzing him for his failure.
@@cesarvictoriano8072 that could be the case
Context: In the transformers video game War for Cybertron, Trypticon was defeated and captured by the autobots. Later on in the sequel, fall of Cybertron, Megatron "saves" Trypticon. But Megatron reminds him of his failure to destroy the autobots, so Megatron only "saved" him just to have him forcefully transformed against his will into the Nemesis warship. Which Soundwave comments that the transformation is permanent because Trypticon's T-cog was destroyed.
As for why Megatron doesn't recognize Trypticon in Prime, that's mostly a writing issue since there's a ton of inconstancy and contradiction in the aligned continuity.
@@desertsandfly2277 that might be true
Does it make Megatron have brain damage? At that point, he might have just forgotten.
@@oddguy5356 maybe at the end of FoC
@kionsedale6686 I just remember dark Energon, like a drug for Transformers. That means he has brain damage and a crippling drug addiction.
@@oddguy5356 more like the affection and a poison then a drug
This reminds me, in a Transformers Prime Crossover Fanfic the author added that the reason why Nemesis/Trypticon is so single-mindedly focused on finding those artifacts (after putting all the inhabitants of the ship into stasis), is he hopes one of them can fix his T-cog or at least have him regain his ability to transform again.
@@trollmaster4523 like the forge of soules prime
The fanfic that you're referring to would be Code Prime, a crossover fanfic between the Transformers series and Code Geass. I've actually been reading a bit of it as well!
During the episode on one of the ships computers they even show a model of trypticon in his robot mode
@mrmister1657 I even noticed that too when I made this video
WHEN
@@Speaker_boom before I recorded the clip
Show us that clip!
@@blacktop586 alright give me a minute
Trypticon was Far More Dangerous than Megatron and The Entire Decepticon Regime
Transformers Prime was wrapped up before it’s time.
I felt like something was off when I watched this episode and I actually searched up and found out it might’ve been trypticon
@@P-TFormers that's what I think too
Trypticon refuses to be a servant any longer
What Lorennzo says about TFOne being part of the Bayverse is the same reason the Aligned Continuity is a mess. It is a bunch of TF series trying their own wya but being forced to behave as if part of one plotline.
@@jvbutalid8316 yet their connected in some way, so the writers can't really hide it from the truth
Nah it can’t be connected to the bayverse considering all of what it has going on
@@twistedwolf8422 like I said in some ways, not everything
@@kionsedale6686 I’d name a list of things but I am not gonna spoil it for people
@@twistedwolf8422 I like a little mystery
Imagine being loyal to megatron, failing your task and being punished by turning into his soaceship, then being reactivated after so long only for your master to not even remember you.
@@OrientalBales must have been sparkbroken
He is back and wanted revenge on Megatron for turning him into the Nemesis permanently
Megatron would know this is Trypticon fighting back against his enslavement, so this is confirmation that TF Prime and the Cybertron games aren’t connected.
@The_Story_Of_Us yet they make references from those games and surprisingly some of them that might be connected from the games
@ there are other violations of continuity.
@@The_Story_Of_Us and that's something I shouldn't know
I know that TFP and FOC are supposed to be connected, but even with this, there are too many inconsistencies and continuity errors for ANY connection between them to make any kind of sense, and fun fact: the writers for TFP specifically wrote the show to be distinct from any other continuity even though they were told by Hasbro executives to connect it to FOC and WFC, the people behind the show were kind of assholes
@@astormtrooper189 true, yet the writers can't hide it from us
They probably expected to get their own show like the Animated guys did, only to be hit with a memo from Corporate that they'll have to play second fiddle to the Video Games team and follow their lead, which made them throw a bitchfit. Which isn't that surprising, imagine coming onto a project from a series that's been a heavy Comics and Cartoon juggernaut for the last 30 years, only to be told that the project is going to be headed by the C and D Team (Vidja and Books) because their respective industries print more money than God and the only reason you're there is because it's a tradition to have an animated show accompany a new toyline.
@@richardwulf1122 Honestly that's giving them too much credit, that wasn't the only blunder the TFP team made, they also wasted all of their budget and then some by hiring too many expensive voice actors, it ended up costing them so much money they had to cancel other shows on the same network as TFP, and bring the staff from said shows to work on Transformers Prime
@@astormtrooper189 Man it seems Hasbro managed to hire all the rebel rousers they could in the early 2010's, first Lauren Faust and her terminal case of Individualism and now this gaggle of numbnuts.
@@richardwulf1122 What happened with Lauren Faust?
Trypticon is alive but in stasis
@@vain3207 that's a reason
Then the writers of Prime retconned it
I want this to be canon so bad but I think the writers didn’t intend for this to be the truth.
@@JTtheOctoling yet the writers did make some references from the game
I just wanted to say that it was probably the same voice actor because the ship is the nemesis not tripticon
If I remember right I think the 2 different studios said the games and show were never connected but honestly who knows
@@Aviatoer8172 tho we get some references from the games
oh definitely @@kionsedale6686
I refused to believe that wfc and tfp are in same continuity.
Reasons:
1. The designs are different to each other
2. Their origin especially Optimus Prime was alot different
3. There was no mention about other character such as metroplex who literally sacrifice himself as Optimus stated "Your sacrifice will not be forgotten." Yet his sacrifice was forgotten
4. There's also no mention of Zeta Prime despite that he was some sort of Autobot commander.
5. In TFP, Ultra Magnus was commander of Autobot but in WFC it was Optimus Prime and Zeta Prime
@seanmarley3598 I believe there is a reason for not make a continuity, after the third game sequel *rise of the dark spark* so they decide they change it
@@kionsedale6686Some fans even headcanon about G1 being more connected to WFC/FOC than Prime series.
The games and Prime are separate they don’t take place in the same universe
@randomcelestialsapien115 true, but I have a theory that *prime* is a alt version of *WfC/FiC*? If you think about it, there are some dots connected between the show and the games, much like *transformers: robots in disguise*
@@kionsedale6686 it’s just too inconsistent to me
YES I ALSO PICKED UP ON THIS! I told my homie this theory before he watched the show and im happy you also noticed!
@Hulk_Hoagie_Bread_Master yep, and I forget to mention that miko question about dinobots
@@kionsedale6686 i knew it was tryptocon because he went back to his predacon instincts of hunting relics
just uploading off transformers prime bcc off transformers One movie XD
@@ZertrxIsontop what if he'll appear in the sequel?
I did not catch that at all
@@RTWLR u do know
@
I did not know “Trypticon” was a thing in any Transformers continuity and this episode did nothing to make that clear
@@RTWLR and yet, his voice is in the show
@
Well, duh. It’s Kevin Michael Richardson, who’s the voice of any cartoon black guy ever. Or, more relevantly, Bulkhead
I blame the unicron singularity
Oh wait I'm not a transformers writer
Yes they've blamed every break in lore on that
Technically that would be hashbro for making a terrible retcons and continuity.
They’re not connected in any way shape or form. The books don’t do shit neither. Trypticon in the game was torn apart by the portal in FOC along with the ark. Meaning this ship isn’t even trypticon it’s likely an ancient cybertronian locked in his alt mode.
@wavyretro6021 and you know what those ancient cybertronians is?
@@kionsedale6686 I would believe it’s an ancient cybertronian titan.
@@wavyretro6021 and you know that trypticon is one of those titans
'Nemesis Protocol"
@@liammeech3702 it is possible
isn't he supposed to be nemesis
@shockwave54623 in FoC megatron only found trypticon's head and he transformed him into nemesis