Tractor pulling with Fendt 936 360HP. France, Moselle Litle precision: It's ONLY a demonstration. Not a contest. Otherwise I would have put the mass in front of fendt
Actually, I didn't think of the fact that by putting the drawpoint lower, you would bring the front wheels to the ground, but you would also transfer weight off the back wheels at the same time. This would definitely cause loss of traction at the rear wheels, exactly as you say. Weights at the front would be the solution(which the comment actually mentions), and a good driver is always an asset. Cheers!
@Jackofalltrades16 No, brake horsepower is measured without auxiliary devices (power steering pump and so on), "normal" horsepower with those devices. So the numbers differ, but not that much.
It's pretty hard to see, with the picture being kinda fuzzy, but I think that toplink is hooked to that weightbox, as well as the towcables. And as long as that toplink is being pulled straight, they can withstand an enormous strain. There will NOT be a drawbar on that tractor, as it is european; they have a sort of pintle hitch type drawpoint that is located just below the mounting bracket of that toplink. The drawbar used in America helps keep the front end on the ground with a low draw point.
@Bahbart Yep, it does not have gears like in "shifting gears". But it does have the round things with teeth on them, I was referring to them (I think they are called gears? I am not a native english speaker). But now I am really nit picking...
@CoreoBroomstick Thats exactly my point. "Computername" believed that it was the excellent traction control. Traction control stops wheels that provide no forward motion hence my comment.
Horse power is a combination of engine speed and torque. A ford mustang has say 385hp and 385lb-ft. A motor like that red lines probably around 5500 - 6500rpm. A tractor like that is around 330hp and around 1400lb-ft of torque. But it red lines at like 2900 - 3400 rpm. If a motor like that reved up as high as a mustang, you're lookin at around 1300 - 1400hp.
Good pull, HELLS GOOD PULL, That was fantastic really. Sorry I cannot tell you this in french, Wait the best I can do it is BON, BON, BON. I hope I got that right. one farmer to another.
@rEyIsBeSt Ich vermute, dass der immer noch ne starre Verbindung zwischen der Vorder- und der Hinterachse hat wenn Allrad an ist (oder weiß da jemand was Anderes?), bei Schleppern möchte man ja nicht über die Verteilung der Antriebsleitung Über- oder Untersteuern erreichen wie bei Autos. Und für maximale Zugkraft ist es am besten, wenn alle Räder starr gekoppelt sind (solange man geradeaus fahren will...).
@SBT300 naja, es braucht trotzdem auch kraft um die vorderräder zu bewegen, und diese kraft steht dann an der hinterachse nicht mehr zur verfügung. ich weiss nicht wie gut die elektronik arbeitet und kraft von der vorder auch die hinterachse überträgt, aber ein bisschen drehmoment fehlt dann immer, auch wenns nich viel is.
@rEyIsBeSt Ja, kann schon ein bisschen mehr sein, aber wir reden über ein Diff, zwei Planetensätze und ein paar Wellendichtringe, die mit einer sehr kleinen Umdrehungsgeschwindigkeit durchgedreht werden müssen. Im Vergleich dazu, was an der Hinterachse passiert, ist das absolut vernachlässigbar.
@computername Its called low range gearboxes and diff locks. As if it has traction control. If it did why are the front wheels moving since they are off the ground. Would this not be loss of traction?
@phill903 would it actually make any dfifference putting them on the front? as they still have the same weight-increasing affect on the back and result in a higher psi of tyre-to-ground grip.?
@statesmanls1 So the wheels turning in the air make it lose traction? What are you saying? It's 4wd, with a limited slip center diff lock. The front wheels are going to turn.
@StylexStyler I read the description, was just stating that the Fendt 936 with front weights would drag the skid like a rag doll. So what is your point...
@gor319582006 Normally tractors have diff locks, so no slip in the diff when engaged. And here he just uses a very low transmission ratio, no traction control.
I don't think power was the issue here, besides it takes next to no hp to run the front wheels when they are in the air anyways! As he said if the weights were in the front it would have been an easy pull
ich überlege grade ob es nich schlauer wäre allrad auszuschalten wenn die vorderachse in der luft is, damit die komplette kraft auf die hinterachse kommt...?
@HighSpeedRider fendt definately. far higher quality. of course when it comes to over 10000hours on either machine the engine is gona be pretty pushed but as far as during the life goes a fendt is the way to go. fendt and new holland are honestly the top manufacturers. forget deere n all the rest
he shud b pulling the rope lower to the ground so that it is pulling from underneath the rear axle if you get me. thats when the front end gets pulled down and you get max traction
has anyone ever seen a steam engine tractor pulling before when the wheels lift up in the air on the front i was levelling the the track at the event and couldn't believe it. ill put the video on when i have some time
I'm not putting down the driver OR his tractor, I'm just saying that it's sad that the ground was too soft for him to get further. There were a few points where he'd be spinning his tires, then he'd grip something an roll out of the rut and be GREAT for another 10 feet, then he's hit another soft spot and sink right in. Great tractor, terrible terrain...
There's no elasticity in a steel chain; if it breaks, it falls to the ground. Same thing holds true for winch cable. Law of physics. A widely-held myth, but only that.
Well i dont agree enterely.... Fendt uses same motor as deutz-fahr does, with one correction, fendt uses their own electronics wich control the engine, and have their own SCR technology, or gas recirculating system, and that makes them different.... Look in to specifications, in serial numbers of machines, and you will see that engines are the same, well known motor is deutz with 4038ccm3 whitch is used in 300 fendt series and deutz-fahr agrotron and agrofarm series....
Fendt uses it own developed engines witch is made by deutz that makes engines and are owned by volvo construction equipment. Deutz-fahr witch makes tractors and uses deutz own developed engines are owned by same group. so no fendt don't use the same motor witch deutz-fahr uses in their machines.
awd, the same diesel technology as used in the actual mercedes luxury cars, unbelieveable fast traction control, a perfect designed chassis.. american cars have the big block and awesome sound. but german technology is a bit different. neat engineering, testing, qc in every detail makes the point ist the tractor loud? no.. but it does the task, without noise, dust oder a trained driver.. and it will even in this situation save your money an is economically correct :)
Untrue. My very father got a tractor stuck and when they tried to pull it out with a chain, it snapped, hit, and shattered the windshield. The windshield held in place, but still...
have you ever seen a chain snap? Its prolly better to have the window open rather then get broken glass in your face if it did snap cause they go flying
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Actually, I didn't think of the fact that by putting the drawpoint lower, you would bring the front wheels to the ground, but you would also transfer weight off the back wheels at the same time. This would definitely cause loss of traction at the rear wheels, exactly as you say. Weights at the front would be the solution(which the comment actually mentions), and a good driver is always an asset. Cheers!
Fendt - The Green revolution of real tractors
Great video. Awesome display of the power in Tractors..thanks for posting.
Those Fendts are amazing machines indeed.
@Bahbart It does. The gearbox has a mechanical path with two speeds, and a hydraulic path.
The transmission is loving this one!!
Very impressive pulling demonstration
That was sweet. Lot of power behind that thing.
@Jackofalltrades16 No, brake horsepower is measured without auxiliary devices (power steering pump and so on), "normal" horsepower with those devices. So the numbers differ, but not that much.
This is one very slick machine...very impressive!!!!
Even the good old MF 35 has a diff-lock pedal. Diff-locks became more or less standard since the late 1950's.
It's pretty hard to see, with the picture being kinda fuzzy, but I think that toplink is hooked to that weightbox, as well as the towcables. And as long as that toplink is being pulled straight, they can withstand an enormous strain. There will NOT be a drawbar on that tractor, as it is european; they have a sort of pintle hitch type drawpoint that is located just below the mounting bracket of that toplink. The drawbar used in America helps keep the front end on the ground with a low draw point.
nothing runs like a fendt. fucking good tractor
@Bahbart Yep, it does not have gears like in "shifting gears". But it does have the round things with teeth on them, I was referring to them (I think they are called gears? I am not a native english speaker). But now I am really nit picking...
I love these tractors
@CoreoBroomstick Thats exactly my point. "Computername" believed that it was the excellent traction control. Traction control stops wheels that provide no forward motion hence my comment.
@SBT300 allright, in that case we understand each other. Oh, and I'm not a native english speaker myself, so I don't know what they are called...
impressive display of power. why are the wieghts on the back 3pt they should be moved to the front and why on earth would you hook that high?
badass pull my man
Horse power is a combination of engine speed and torque. A ford mustang has say 385hp and 385lb-ft. A motor like that red lines probably around 5500 - 6500rpm.
A tractor like that is around 330hp and around 1400lb-ft of torque. But it red lines at like 2900 - 3400 rpm. If a motor like that reved up as high as a mustang, you're lookin at around 1300 - 1400hp.
It's ONLY a demonstration. Not a contest. Otherwise I would have put the mass in front of fendt
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So Old vidio, so cool
Good pull, HELLS GOOD PULL, That was fantastic really. Sorry I cannot tell you this in french, Wait the best I can do it is BON, BON, BON. I hope I got that right. one farmer to another.
@86DTV
Thats what Im talkin about, watch out Deere. Fendt is coming for the market share in North America!
now thats puttin power to the pavement
FENDT FOR LIFE
@rEyIsBeSt Ich vermute, dass der immer noch ne starre Verbindung zwischen der Vorder- und der Hinterachse hat wenn Allrad an ist (oder weiß da jemand was Anderes?), bei Schleppern möchte man ja nicht über die Verteilung der Antriebsleitung Über- oder Untersteuern erreichen wie bei Autos. Und für maximale Zugkraft ist es am besten, wenn alle Räder starr gekoppelt sind (solange man geradeaus fahren will...).
@SBT300 naja, es braucht trotzdem auch kraft um die vorderräder zu bewegen, und diese kraft steht dann an der hinterachse nicht mehr zur verfügung.
ich weiss nicht wie gut die elektronik arbeitet und kraft von der vorder auch die hinterachse überträgt, aber ein bisschen drehmoment fehlt dann immer, auch wenns nich viel is.
@rEyIsBeSt Ja, kann schon ein bisschen mehr sein, aber wir reden über ein Diff, zwei Planetensätze und ein paar Wellendichtringe, die mit einer sehr kleinen Umdrehungsgeschwindigkeit durchgedreht werden müssen. Im Vergleich dazu, was an der Hinterachse passiert, ist das absolut vernachlässigbar.
@computername Its called low range gearboxes and diff locks. As if it has traction control. If it did why are the front wheels moving since they are off the ground. Would this not be loss of traction?
@phill903 would it actually make any dfifference putting them on the front? as they still have the same weight-increasing affect on the back and result in a higher psi of tyre-to-ground grip.?
@statesmanls1 So the wheels turning in the air make it lose traction? What are you saying?
It's 4wd, with a limited slip center diff lock. The front wheels are going to turn.
@StylexStyler I read the description, was just stating that the Fendt 936 with front weights would drag the skid like a rag doll. So what is your point...
@wethepeoplebmx420
It's not lowgear, it's vario transmission
There are a couple in Sioux County IA, They sell them west of Hull Iowa.
Very interesting film :)
@Bartus1989 vario gear box.. will only lunge forward a little bit.. limited speed set for the pull..
nice toy..what is he pulling ? another planet ? the moon ?
Dam, talk about torque. And that rev on the engine and the weels hardly move thats a hell of reduction ratio.
@gor319582006 Normally tractors have diff locks, so no slip in the diff when engaged. And here he just uses a very low transmission ratio, no traction control.
huh... cool... havnt seen any in nebraska yet... 360 hp is pretty good...almost as much as our 4wd ford versatile
@Bartus1989 Its in a rediculously low gear, if the rope broke, the tractor would only be coming at him at 5 mph
@SBT300 Indeed, but that doesn't mean it has gears. That's just a very basic explanation how the transmission of this machine works. Without gears.
The owner is a very lucky folk!
I don't think power was the issue here, besides it takes next to no hp to run the front wheels when they are in the air anyways! As he said if the weights were in the front it would have been an easy pull
I wonder if it would be possible to pull the moon out of orbit and make it crash down into the Earth ? o man that would be freaky as hell!!
i havnt seen any fendt tractors in the midwest... where are they sold in the U.S.
ich überlege grade ob es nich schlauer wäre allrad auszuschalten wenn die vorderachse in der luft is, damit die komplette kraft auf die hinterachse kommt...?
fendt 936 = beast
He's hooked on to high in back and it's pulling the front up. Hooking lower would have kept things more balanced.
Nice vid though. Tough tractor!
@HighSpeedRider fendt definately. far higher quality. of course when it comes to over 10000hours on either machine the engine is gona be pretty pushed but as far as during the life goes a fendt is the way to go. fendt and new holland are honestly the top manufacturers. forget deere n all the rest
@Bartus1989 rope don't break. Rope snaps.
C'est normal que les pneus soient dans ce sens là? J'aurais imaginé que pour favoriser la motricité il fallait les mettre dans l'autre sens.
last tiem i checked steel , like any metal, doel streck a bit. And at this forces it will hit u in the back of your head. Any metal has elasticity.
Best in world!
What if the rope break? And you are in front of it?
he shud b pulling the rope lower to the ground so that it is pulling from underneath the rear axle if you get me. thats when the front end gets pulled down and you get max traction
has anyone ever seen a steam engine tractor pulling before when the wheels lift up in the air on the front
i was levelling the the track at the event and couldn't believe it. ill put the video on when i have some time
I'm not putting down the driver OR his tractor, I'm just saying that it's sad that the ground was too soft for him to get further. There were a few points where he'd be spinning his tires, then he'd grip something an roll out of the rut and be GREAT for another 10 feet, then he's hit another soft spot and sink right in.
Great tractor, terrible terrain...
FENDT is a good tractor because it's drive with a Deutz-fahr Moter
all the 360hp needed :P but yes...i like the fendt 936 :)
The chain needs to be lower down, down there with our old friend gravity
There's no elasticity in a steel chain; if it breaks, it falls to the ground. Same thing holds true for winch cable. Law of physics.
A widely-held myth, but only that.
cazzo che mostro... ma questo ti tira giù una casa !!!!!!!!!!!
Well i dont agree enterely.... Fendt uses same motor as deutz-fahr does, with one correction, fendt uses their own electronics wich control the engine, and have their own SCR technology, or gas recirculating system, and that makes them different....
Look in to specifications, in serial numbers of machines, and you will see that engines are the same, well known motor is deutz with 4038ccm3 whitch is used in 300 fendt series and deutz-fahr agrotron and agrofarm series....
idk if the ground is 2 soft he's got the front off the ground the tires got bite
Le monstre !
where is this shit why are they doing this with a beautiful FENDT
That Deutz engine produces no smoke under this kinda stress
clobbyhops nothing run like a deere ;)
fane1992 you mean nothing runs like a Fendt tractor :)
+fane1992 when a fendt is chasing it :P
Hey man, you've never seen a chain snap!!!!
Yeah Fendt
Fendt uses it own developed engines witch is made by deutz that makes engines and are owned by volvo construction equipment. Deutz-fahr witch makes tractors and uses deutz own developed engines are owned by same group. so no fendt don't use the same motor witch deutz-fahr uses in their machines.
awd, the same diesel technology as used in the actual mercedes luxury cars, unbelieveable fast traction control, a perfect designed chassis..
american cars have the big block and awesome sound. but german technology is a bit different. neat engineering, testing, qc in every detail makes the point
ist the tractor loud? no..
but it does the task, without noise, dust oder a trained driver.. and it will even in this situation save your money an is economically correct :)
@oxman7 thanks for your opinion:)
Fendt rockt!!^^
i like the video
i think it would take a colosal amont of energy because its has 734770000000000000000000 tons. not joking, actual number.
what is it pulling?
@sdkfz162kingtiger I dont thinks so, but everyone has another favourite tractor :)
Was zieht der da?
Untrue. My very father got a tractor stuck and when they tried to pull it out with a chain, it snapped, hit, and shattered the windshield. The windshield held in place, but still...
indeed and then you could keep the weight on the rear for even more traction
@computername you obviously haven't been paying attention to american cars lately. there hasn't been a typical big block in over ten years.
Its amazing anyway DHF
it needs the weights at the back, otherwise the rear wheels would slip off the ground
Horse power and break horse power are different things mate
serious power
fendt power fendt halt!!!
@phill903 You dont like to read descriptions ?
@1brymark exactly it would destroy that skid if the chain was in the right place
which is better fendt 936 or messey ferguson 8690?
have you ever seen a chain snap? Its prolly better to have the window open rather then get broken glass in your face if it did snap cause they go flying
makina de guerra!
damm strong engine
The weight behind has to be in front of the tractor.
wat a beast
lockers &
@SBT300 wenns wirklich nur nen halbes PS is... aber das wird man wahrscheinlich nich so ohne weiteres rausfinden können...
would be an more impresive demonstration if you had weights in fron though ;)
I understand the box on the back but one on the front would not hurt either.