When I started The Diary Of A CEO I wanted to look into the diaries of people with unique stories, people who had been in remarkable positions and individuals who had dealt with challenging situations. As you’ll know if you watch this channel - most of my guests are not CEO’s - they tend to be individuals who have been in unique positions, authors, well known names in society or people with unique stories - My objective is to try and find the truth within that diary and to provide a long-form perspective on that story that you might not get on other short form media platforms. Then, it’s up to you - the viewer - to arrive at your own conclusions. It’s worth saying, I will always interview whoever I want to *on my channel* and as the viewer you can choose to listen or choose not to listen. I’ve never understood the notion that an independent channel like mine can’t interview certain people that the entire mainstream media can…? So I will continue to have the conversations I’m intrigued to have and I will continue to do it In the style that I enjoy. Thank you to all of you that take the time to listen to this channel 🙏🏽❤️
As much as I think we shouldn't worry about others' opinions, for the sake of evolution and civility, every now and then is worth setting the record straight. It's great seeing you doing it here in particular. If they didn't know now they know.-)
I think if you have done something wrong or questionable, an explanation goes a long way. But you haven't so I don't think you need to explain yourself (and it sounds a bit defensive to be honest). Different people bring different perspectives so I thought this was an interesting interview and you were an excellent interviewer. Even in these circumstances he didn't move me. I still think MH is disingenuous wasteman and the fact he had the audacity to speak to you about empathy ... Yeah 🤣
100% agree! However some people refuse to be fully open and honest! He is one of them, he loves the spotlight it seems, and desperately wants to be liked. Thanks for another episode , always appreciate your take and questions in these conversations Steven. “The honest truth is” your still lieing Matt!
As someone who lost my father to covid in the first wave, we were not able to visit dad as he lay dying. We stood outside his window and prayed. We continued to hope. We got asked to send pictures of ourselves so they could place them around him and our names so they could say them to him. To let him know we cared. We received the phone call to say he was not going to survive. That they had tried everything but it could not be enough. The pain of receiving that call 😓💔. The hospital went against what was allowed and let both me and my mum with him in his final moments whilst the rest of the family were outside knowing he was about to pass. Emily, an incredible nurse who had cared for dad with so much love for those two weeks sobbed. Devastated alongside us. Once he had died and because we had been into ICU, we would now have to self isolate for 14 days away from the family. No hugs from anyone because we had the privilege of being with him when he died. This is something we know is an absolute privilege because tens of thousands of families were unable to. Tens of thousands of people died alone. The funeral was a graveside burial with only 8 of us there. The pain of hearing Hancock’s voice. Of showing barely any remorse. For showing little ‘empathy,’ the thing he astonishingly thinks he has. Of his blind loyalty to a Prime Minister who has laughed in the face of every single person who sacrificed for the greater good. Thank you for interviewing him and letting him expose himself as the odious, self-obsessed, shallow little man he is. The pain he caused through his bad decision making alongside the government to so many of us is unparalleled. Even ‘ in hindsight’ you continued to give yourself a clap on the back. I hope you read this comment too, Hancock.
I’m really sorry to read of the loss of your dad. I am seething with you watching this, I need him to understand how despised he is, how pathetic his rebrand is and if he could kindly go hide in a shed forever even for the sake of his kids let alone the rest of the hurt he’s inflicted.
Sarah, I am so sorry. I also lost my father, quite suddenly it was within a short period of time in 2020 when he got diagnosed with cancer. From March 2020 to June 2020 he was in and out of hospital, sometimes for weeks at a time and we lost so many valuable moments with him in his last few months. Matt Hancock was a the poster boy for me not being able to see my Dad and then to find out he was out there doing whatever he liked, although I wasn't totally surprised, it still felt like a knife in my stomach. He's a vile human being and deserves no sympathy, I'm glad he was on the podcast if for no other reason than to expose himself for the pathetic person he clearly is. Once again, very sorry for your loss and I feel your pain. We will be holding a celebration of life for my Dad some time this year, since the funeral was so small. Although it's not the same it could be a way to help to remember your Dad's life and reconnect with those friends and others who loved him. Lots of love to you and your family.
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
Well done Steven for staying cool, calm and collected in the more challenging parts of the conversation. They were difficult to watch but alot of respect to you.
so easy to talk waffle when your mind is closed. Personally felt he did a reasonable job with covid. I've yet to hear from anyone else as to how it "should" have been done. @@mohammedalnahyan4604
Steven , you are an incredibly gifted interviewer. You listen , you don’t interrupt and you ask intelligent , relevant questions. You have a rare gift in that you can draw people out without sounding intrusive.
Rishi Sunak a ‘difficult background’? As a brown person I can confirm Uncle Rishi is a rich Asian person and was born into a privileged, rich Asian family. Great podcast but so further from reality in some parts.
He’s a classic privileged politician born to rich parents, privately educated turned banker. If he wasn’t brown then people would look at him they way they looked at David Cameron. As a brown person, I find Hancock’s claim insulting
It actually made me laugh out loud when he said about Rishi coming from an ordinary background, his mum was a pharmacist!!!!! I’m not quite sure how much a pharmacist earns but I don’t think it’s very ordinary 😱
Matt Hancock asking for "the question to be asked in a more respectful way" while being questioned about doing one of the most disrespectful things possible to his wife and kids is laughable
Listen he married for perception not love. Now he is with someone for love. Why don’t people get it, the majority of people do not marry for love. They went the red benefits; children; perception and settling!
Sunak's Mother was a Pharmacist! If you know that part of Southampton, you'd understand the point better. Why is it, that we think paid education is worse than multiple luxury holidays? How Sunak's parents choose to spend their own money is entirely their business not ours. As for Hancock, he explained his education pathway, due to his extraordinary ability despite dyslexia, to compete with older contemporaries and succeed at a high level.
@@Foxyexrnyou have to tiptoe around someone who has a narcissistic wound, dismissive avoidant…etc. He likely could read the likelihood that avoidant tactics would be deployed if he wasn’t careful..that’s actually wise. You’re essentially with a “man” who has the emotional intelligence/awareness/literacy of a toddler and/or early teen… so, to keep them participating, you learn how to navigate it
Brilliant interview Steven! Nice to see an actual discussion, rather than the usual political line of questioning trying to trick the guest into saying something “headlines worthy”. You are a great interviewer, giving space to the guest to reply with a thoughtful answer. Top job!
Completely disagree. He got off so lightly. The whole respect and empathy nonsense spouted is just incredible irony. A guy who cheated on his wife and country and who blindly supports a prime minister who missed cobra meetings, openly spoke about shaking everyone's hands whilst simultaneously telling everyone to social distance to be interrupted by Chris Whitty in the same sentence. Then get the virus itself. Also as a advisor on data protection, what he said was absolute lies. He is exactly the reason why there should be cameras in every public service domain. To keep people accountable! It has nothing to do with privacy.
One of the reasons this podcast is so great is because of Steven’s willingness to have discussions with a wide variety of people. You don’t have to agree with all opinions of the guest, or even like them, to learn something new from the conversation. I’ve never really understood the mindset of politicians (as politics is something I don’t personally enjoy) but this episode is helping me gain more insight into how a politician thinks and needs to process/balance difficult decisions. Although I don’t agree with much of what Matt Hancock said, I do have to respect his willingness to talk on such an open platform like a podcast. I don’t think too many politicians would be willing to do that due to the high risk of being exposed for saying one wrong thing.
And his sob story about his school. Imagine if you were a kid whose Dad was on the front page of the Sun cheating on your Mum? He can't even show empathy for his own kids, let alone those who lost loved ones in the pandemic. Tosser.
I tried my hardest to watch all this with an open mind, and I was almost sold until towards the end, when he said he only resigned when people he respected told him they couldn’t visit dying relatives. Which tells me he didn’t initially respect the general public who was all going through the same thing! 🤷🏼♂️ Great podcast as always though Steven! Incredible guest! Keep them coming! 👌🏼👏🏼
I agree - but also I don’t believe him for a second. He’s the health secretary - he should’ve already known that people made those sacrifices. He mentioned the dying relatives to seem like the bigger person
well done. personally speaking, i couldn’t really stand more than a few minutes of the egregious slime ball democide enabler attempting to justify its existence.
It's funny. He starts by saying politics is not based on nepotism that it's okay that the people who run the country are all from the same elite circle because they all have empathy. Then he closes by revealing he got hired for all his ministerial jobs based on who he knew and not because of his competence, that he hired Gina with our taxpayer money because she's someone he knew and the only reason he resigned is not because he had empathy for the public, but because people he personally knew and respected told him their stories of hardship. I wonder how many other policy decisions have come about only because people he personally knows are impacted and not because of what is beneficial for the British public as a whole??
@@diamonument8777 no different really from the political club finding money for themselves and each other but not for the general public in the form of wise and just spending on behalf of the much stung taxpayer who funds them, himself and everyone else.
think my jaw actually dropped when he asked for the question regarding the cctv footage to be "asked in a more respectful way" as if it was more disrespectful than him cheating on his wife and blatantly breaking his own rules 😌
I approached this podcast with a completely clear mind. Removing judgement and see if Mr Hancock can teach me anything about politics, which I usually have the usual eye rolling motions for. It really felt like personal PR. I admire Steven for adding this dimension to his guest list and I did get value from it. However, with guests like Mo Gawdat, Fern Cotton, Mary Portas, Matthew Syed, Johann Hari etc, etc - it does show the difference between great thinkers and those in Downing Street.
Johann Hari, James Smith, Mo Gawdat really made me reflect on my life ... Hancock just makes me want to vomit. He should be nowhere near a position to make big decisions like he was.
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
No matter how hard I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, and how hard he tries to come across as 'sincere' and 'only human', ultimately I am left feeling that this man ( Hancock) is a self serving, duplicitous slime ball who is both the symptom and the actual condition of everything that is wrong in British politics currently. In my view he should not be explaining his actions on a podcast, but before a Court of Law.
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I'm a registered nurse of 20 years, one who was sacked, by the way, due to not wanting a forced jab, thanks to Matt Hancock's policy. I'm also a service user of the NHS. I don't think for one minute that Matt Hancock sits on a 2 year waiting list for the NHS, and definitely uses private healthcare. As a nurse, I would definitely want a doctor as health secretary rather than someone who knows nothing about healthcare. To be honest, anyone would have done a better job than him. It was his policy that forced people to die alone and denied their loved ones the ability to be with them, when they were at their most vulnerable and frightened. I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth
@@YoullClapWhenImGone Thank you. I was actually then re-employed after 6 months when the government reversed their decision. I'm grateful for that. Had they not, I still wouldn't have taken it. Thank you for your message
@@annazrelli4954 I'm really happy to hear it worked out for you in the end 🙂, you shouldn't have been put in that position to begin with, I could write/rant all day about how wrong it all was but I'll just say I'm glad it all worked out ok, and again I applaud that you were brave enough to stand up for yourself at such a difficult time. Wishing you all the best for the future 🙂
Bravo Steven. The line of questioning around political nepotism/ lack of diversity in politics and expertise required within ministerial leadership - specifically in the areas of digital - echoed everything I consistently get frustrated at, as someone who works in leadership within the digital industry and as someone who came from a working class background and has had to make significant sacrifices to get to where I am now…without the help of friends/family in high places! Thank you for always asking the tough questions and representing 👏.
Why do people from a working class background always have to mention their background.. life’s a fight wherever you’re from. For some it’s easier for some it’s harder. You were probably more privileged then 5 billion on this planet.
Just when you think who will Steven get next, he throws a massive curve ball and get someone totally unexpected 😧😧 I got my popcorn ready for this one 🍿 👀
Thanks for such an interesting interview! It's rare to have a politician be interviewed in this manner. Very insightful and thoughtful questions were asked. I loved how you managed to hold your ground and remain respectful when the conversation heated up. Great job!
I love how Rishi Sinai is described as “one of us” because his mum is a pharmacist... left out one small point mate, Rishi Sunak’s father-in-law is a billionaire.
Think the point he was making was Rishi didn't grow up with a billionaire father-in-law it was inherited through marriage. But I get your point he's not 'one of us'.
@@alexanderhogg2559 how did his parents afford the private school for Rishi? Pretty sure they were very wealthy. Lets not make it out like he comes from humble beginnings. Maybe his parents do but certainly not him.
Fair play for Hancock to do the podcast. Personally I took this podcast with a huge pinch of salt as I think it felt like a PR stunt. I feel it is him probably trying to make amends for what he has done but also to help build his profile back up again, which I think the majority of people will feel is in the toilet. For me it was a good insight into the politics world especially through his political career and through COVID.
Watching Matt speak makes me realise just how far away we are from really communicating showing our true selves being vulnerable, open and honest in business. However a sense of duty for democracy especially in this current climate is essential. Thanks for sharing 🙏
I watched the whole thing and agree with you The way he reacted to Ste asking about the casual sex part surprised me Imo ste didn’t ask the question in a disrespectful way at all
It's a symptom of the game of politics when you're attacked from every angle it takes a special individual to be grounded in oneself, those types avoid politics by virtue of its design
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
Really pleased to come across this dialogue. Long-form open discussions such as this is very much welcomed in modern democracies. I didnt agree with everything Matt Hancock did over the pandemic however, to witness a human conversation such as this encourages better understand and reduces political division. More like these please
Over the pandemic I have lost faith in journalism and the way they berate politicians and unable to listen. So refreshing to hear a fresh discussion with humanity
Absolutely no excuse for doing this to his wife and kids. Where society is today was perfectly reflected by the fact that everyone just cared about him breaking covid rules but not the cheating on his wife
It’s weird isn’t it… cheating doesn’t even seem like a big deal in society nowadays. It’s continuously romanticised by film and TV, and clearly in real life situations too judging by this interview. You can leave someone, but why cheat? So scummy and hurtful
Great interview Steven. The part where you questioned Matt on the typical background of the political landscape and he mentions Rishi Sunak as an example. Yes son of a pharmacist (and GP) but he also went to Winchester College, an elite private school. He definitely did not come from a difficult background.
when he asked how he managed the thoughts and how he slept at night knowing his decision during the day are life and death decisions. you could see on matts face that he never really thought about and he slept just fine
Saw a clip of this on Facebook and couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Incidentally, ‘Let’s start this again, in a way I prefer!’ was ALSO what I was saying during the whole of Covid.
I thought I'd hate this, but I learned a lot from Steven's approach to interviewing someone that he doesn't fully agree with, connect on a deeper level with or feel fully inspired by in the way that he does his other guests. This must have been a difficult interview to conduct calmly, so hats off to you, Steven!
Fantastic podcast. Whether you like him or not, it’s nice to see a politician be able to explain their answers without the media just sniping at them and trying to catch them out. Great work, Steven. Amazing interview.
Fair play to Steven for having Hancock on. We need more diversity in these types of platforms. It’s pretty hard to warm to Hancock. Self-righteousness combined with so many glib responses on a life or death topic is not acceptable. Nor is having a totally inept and under qualified individual in the position of Health Secretary.
This conversation actually made me see him as a human and just like the rest of us. Whilst I don’t agree with many of his points, it was really interesting to see his perspective. Thanks Steven!
Being human isn't his issue, I've never understood that term - what else would he be except human? His issue is lack of compassion, honesty and empathy whilst being in a role/position where people's lives were in his hand. Further, not just ANY group of people, his own family - six children too. I have sympathy because we all fall short, but I can see and hear that he is/was in a boys club and act/acted like it until he had to put his hands up!
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
This guy is priceless! How he can sit there and say he ‘took responsibility’. He had no intention of doing anything until he got caught. He was well aware that people couldn’t visit dying relatives at the time he was knocking off his new bird. Matt Hancock is a monster and to top it off one of the worst health secretaries this country has seen.
I'd love to see a body language expert break this conversation down. Found this incredibly interesting. Was not, and probably still, am not a fan of Mr Hancock but I always appreciate listening to different perspectives. I think that's what garners progress and gets us closer to where we need to be.
The effort you went into to make this happen and Matt Hancock chosing you as a platform to speak up is a testament to you and your team. Podcast is brilliant quality. However, I struggled with buying into it. Not sure whether it was the delivery or just a feeling of a media stunt to save himself. Who knows. There are 2 sides to every story and there is the truth....
Yes, I felt the cctv footage that went viral was staged - I'll have to watch this in full to see if the above is also a stunt. I agree that Steven is doing an incredible job, he's a true star.
great podcast, incredible to listen to Hancock speak where he avoids any accountability and somehow seems to view himself as a hero. tried to listen without any prior prejudices but his inability to take responsibility and the way he treats the thousands who died as a simple statistic is genuinely baffling- not to mention his completely warped opinion on meritocracy and the idea that politics isn’t a rich boys club.
Congrats on a great podcast. It’s so hard to believe anything he actually says because of his awful track record of lying but you did a great job with his questions and I admired the manner at which you handled him. Very interesting how he thinks he has empathy despite your examples you gave what you think empathy was…
wow the mood changed quickly when it went onto personal life, he talked about communication and how politicians shouldn't be so media driven, and was coming across really well and before the question about casual sex was even brought up he was wanting to start the segment again.
He wanted to CONTROL the situation .... despicable, delusional , duplicitous , hypocritical waffler still treating the British public like complete & utter fools . His arrogance is off the scale . But let’s get serious and v personal here ... no red blooded woman could ever genuinely be attracted to such a puny little dweeb . Urrghhh .... he’s truly stomach turning .
I listened to this on my morning walk. I LOVE the weekly instalments of this podcast / youtube channel, in fact it forms an important part of my week. I binge listen to these chats. But for me, Matt is so guarded and his answers are exactly what you would expect from a politician. He opens saying he wants to be open but in reality that isn't what this is. LOVE Steven and will always listen, but this episode isn't the usual life-changing, earth shattering chats I look forward to.
I wish all interviews were like this. It’s nice to feel as if I’m trusted to make my own mind up about someone, you get so much more out of someone when you let them speak! I get the interviews where the interviewer just wants a sound bite. I got a lot out of this.
This is exactly why I'm obsessed with this podcast. A mix of raw and honest information with a host that is just asking the right questions with empathy! Fucking brilliant Steven! 🔥
That's what they WANT you to think. They purposely made it seem that way within the first five minutes ON PURPOSE. You fell for it, hook line and sinker
@@MrAsh1989 c’est la vie Ash 😉 I guess he’s doing a good job if I manage to empathise with someone that’s been the villain in the story. Also everyone is entitled to their option and perspective, so I hope you can respect mine ✨
@@MrAsh1989 lol, presenting minimal human decency and freedom of speech as if you're doing someone a favour... How condescending. Your moral supremacy is pervasive in your basic dialogue. "I can't respect someone else's opinion if I don't agree with it" is what you meant. Don't make it seem like you're doing someone a favour by not abusing them simply for expressing their opinion, it's the bare minimum you should do.
Steven!!! Touché my friend touché. You did us proud in bringing this guy on, this is something close to my heart!! So we’ll done. Being part of the roll out of vaccine and at the frontline with patients dying every day and seeing the horrendous repercussions of Covid-19 I didn’t understand why the decisions from the politicians was so up in the air and changed constantly. We were told to do this that and the other at a drop of a hat. What they didn’t do is empathise with us. Steven, you really have gotten to the bottom of things and asked some really hard questions that got to the bottom of the mindset of Matt making decisions. Every person from ceo to doctor to cleaner didn’t know what was happening. No every two hours in the day were the same. And now we see why, in “hindsight” we would’ve don’t think differently and took leadership in our own hands. This talk made me empathise with Matt and making him a little more human than just a robot. I commend him and his player mentality in politics. Built up others, took responsibility for his actions.
OMG .... u gotta be joking . He was caught ; took no responsibility then , or now, for hypocritical double standards, deaths in Covid or his adultery . Watching him wriggle, gesticulate & try to control the question says all we need to know ab the character ( or lack thereof ) of the man . No accountability at all ....still treating the public like utter fools
Phenomenal interview! One of the few times I have seen a public representative engage in a genuine conversation about their personal frailties and the reality of their political career. Credit to Steven for facilitating this, and to Matt for allowing it!
Thanks Steven. I imagine it could be challenging to focus when you get interrupted even when you're asking questions. You're so respectful - so great to watch and learn from.
absolute breath of fresh air. So insightful, and much needed in these days of politician speak and covering ones arse constantly. You need to do this with as many politicians as possible without restriction! Thank you man
Matt Hancock is surely an interesting character to say the least, you can definitely tell he’s a politician. Well done Steven for asking genuine questions that the public would love to know the answer to as well, and for standing your ground. I really appreciate this conversation, looking forward to next weeks podcast!
You are always so tactile and honest, Steven. Anyone else would push more, making their guest annoyed and reluctant to share. Your charisma is your greatest strength, I think (not that I know you at all lol) x
Started watching this channel and love it. This is what interviews should be about … the person across the table. Matt Hancock comes across well because he’s given time to talk by a neutral interviewer. Contrast this to our so called journalists who constantly cram interview with too many questions, interrupt and leave the listeners with misrepresented summaries. This selfish approach is all about the journalist who search out angles, revelations and click bait to further their reputations and in doing so they pollute the minds of many. Well done Steven on your channel. It shows what can be achieved in the pursuit of truth. Journalists are the new estate agents !
This podcast is exactly what podcasts should be about. The line of questioning a couldn’t be more perfect.. gives the guests room to give their points and say what they want to say, but also always playing devils advocate (or even just Stephens real views on the matter)
He mentioned Rishi Sunak when referencing some of the conservative members diverse backgrounds… didn’t mention his Dad was a well-paid GP & was privileged enough to attend independent school, to then go on to study the same course as Hancock at Oxford 😂
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
I appreciate the broad complexities of this discussion and I think it was a great one to have. Opening up the channels of genuine communication plays a small part in the wider agenda that Steven and our generation is pushing for and I think he is doing so successfully.
I am not and never have been a Conservative voter. But this is the first time I've ever seen an interview with any tory MP (past or present) being human. How refreshing. I admire Matt Hancock for doing this. I wish all politicians were this 100% open and honest when in office.
I think the problem is that the media doesn't really give them a chance - it's all a "hustle" to fill a 3 minute segment. Journos ask "gotcha" type questions hoping for the politician to make a headline worthy blunder, politicians go on the defensive by repeatedly ducking the question and trotting out the PR office approved soundbite over and over again. Yawn. It's only on long format podcasts like this, with a respectful, level-headed and even handed interviewer that you start getting somewhere.
Imagine breaking the rules you set for over 60 million people and publicly destroying your own family and justifying it with “because I fell in love with somebody”. A literal grown man.
Well if you listen to what he said, it provides context and a reson for his behavy, WHICH BY THE WAY I THINK IS ABHORRENT but we must remember he is only human. Like he said, he's working from 7-8am till midnight, didn't really have weekends, little time with himself and more importantly with his family. If you take that into account, it makes more sense, doesn't excuse it. Just helps it make sense
@@ryancrane2815 still makes zero sense to me. Especially with how easily and callously he lied to the public and his own family whilst having an affair He still seems to think he did nothing wrong other than ‘falling in love’
@@ryancrane2815 exactly which is why it didn’t make sense for him to impose such strict rules whilst he was cheating on his wife on the side. He literally told the public not to engage in casual sex whilst he was engaging in casual sex himself He’s a liar, a cheat and a hypocrite and the fact he tried to make it seem romantic in this podcast makes it even more embarrassing
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
It's VERY simple. The head/minister of each department should be REQUIRED to be an expert in that field as well as a leader who can democratically deploy good solutions. Those two traits are not mutually exclusive! The health secretary should OBVIOUSLY be someone with a background in health eg a doctor or biologist/adjacent fields (masters and PhD). Other fields don't necessarily require the academic background but a significant amount of relevant industry experience!
It’s interesting how different politicians come across when contrasted with Steven’s previous guests. Guests who are intelligent, leaders in their field etc have an air of genuine enthusiasm for their craft / ideas. There’s something very disingenuous and artificial about Matt Hancock.
I never really cared for giving my time to this type of content, I generally Que what I like and listen without watching but one day this channel found its way onto my screen and captured my attention. Now I am hooked. I love, LUV how you engage and listen Steven. Your energy oozes from your silent presence which in my opinion helps your guests to deliver their authentic selves. Thank you, even difficult topics to listen to become soothing and palatable.
I purposefully watched every second of this to give Hancock a final chance to change my opinion of him. And honestly, even tho I disagree with a lot of things he has done, I have a lot more respect for this man than I previously did. Thank you Steven, I think everyone should be allowed an opportunity like this after people in a negative public eye..
Can I ask what did he say or do that gave you more respect for him? I still can't stand him. I have tried to not be biased but this didn't change my opinion on him.
@@High2GetBy personally, seeing him in a human environment where his job isn’t on the line and he could just talk was refreshing. I cant and won’t say I’m his biggest fan, because I’m not. However hearing him have a normal conversation with a normal human did give me more respect for him. What he did to his family is inexcusable and overall I still think he is a twat. But a twat that I have more respect for
The horror my family went through in 2020, I watched my Father die in front of me. We couldn't go see him in hospital in the 3 months he deteriorated from cancer and he was in and out, sometimes for weeks at a time. Matt Hancock is, at the core, a hypocrite, a loser and will never garner any sympathy from me. I appreciate you bringing him on for differences in opinion, to get a wide range of viewpoints because that's always key in a democracy and personally, as a libertarian I believe we all have the right to our opinion and to speak freely to make informed decisions. However, this man is not someone I can ever warm to personally and I continue to harbour a large amount of disgust towards him. Will continue to watch diary of a CEO though, a valuable channel.
I listened to this on podcast but I had to come over here to make a comment. I was in two minds if I wanted to listen to Matt Hancock but I did and I’m so glad I did. It was so interesting hearing his perspective and I can’t imagine how hard being health secretary during a pandemic would be. He’s human and just like us all - nobody can make the perfect decisions all the time - he did what he thought was best and obviously made some mistakes. I’m glad I gave him a chance today. Steven you did an amazing job! Loved your questions. I’m obsessed with this podcast/you tube. I w watched non stop all weekend. X
The fact that only 6 people could attend a funeral is absolutely disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. While they were partying, we couldn’t say goodbye to our loved ones…
I think it is very valuable for controversial people to come on podcasts and interviews like this as we get time with them and they allowed to speak. I listened to a shorter but similar interview with Dianne Abbott last year and both of these people, you realise, are real people with feelings and emotions. Its not about agreeing with everyone, but listening to people, especially when they take a different stance to you. As I've got older I have increasingly found I am frustrated with so many peoples' need to dislike a person just because they disagree with them.
He comes across as such a disingenuous person and far removed from reality, he honestly won’t feel empathy and is very dishonest, he only took responsibility because he got caught, great podcast and was nice to see him squirm 😂
@@s.e1150 This interview was nothing less than an opportunity for Hancock to propagandise. No hard questions were asked 'cept about his affair. He was gloating at the lack of sophistication of his interviewer. Badly done Stevan!
Wow, I have never seen this guys videos before. I agree exactly with what he says on empathy, politicians will never grasp how it is to live a "normal" life despite what Matt says. My story: I did amazing at college, and graduated with 3 A levels. I had also worked full-time my whole teenage and adult life. My partner worked also. We became parents and our relationship broke down. I then could not work due to two kids one at school, one at preschool (the free amount of hours we get). I decided that while my youngest is not of school age, I'd go back to studying to complete my BA. We struggle daily, especially now the prices have rocketed. How can Matt or any of the members of parliaments understand that kind of life? How could any of them understand that if my eldest needs a new pair of school shoes, I have to make cut backs for the rest of the month. Matt's relationship broke down and we haven't seen him have to claim benefits to support his children. Life is incredibly hard for the lower classes, no matter how smart we are. What would help me, is if higher education was free and then the class devision would not be so apparent, everyone what have a level playing field. Single parents should be allowed free education, rather than be forced into low paid jobs, but as we know; is clear to me that the government make it so we fail.
Well done Bartlett for standing your ground!!! He may have been a politician,but this is HIS podcast, and he WILL ask the questions he chooses and how 😎
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shouldn't have to explain yourself tbh, I'm curious to watch this to understand this situation and perhaps the government better
As much as I think we shouldn't worry about others' opinions, for the sake of evolution and civility, every now and then is worth setting the record straight. It's great seeing you doing it here in particular.
If they didn't know now they know.-)
I think if you have done something wrong or questionable, an explanation goes a long way. But you haven't so I don't think you need to explain yourself (and it sounds a bit defensive to be honest). Different people bring different perspectives so I thought this was an interesting interview and you were an excellent interviewer. Even in these circumstances he didn't move me. I still think MH is disingenuous wasteman and the fact he had the audacity to speak to you about empathy ... Yeah 🤣
100% agree! However some people refuse to be fully open and honest! He is one of them, he loves the spotlight it seems, and desperately wants to be liked. Thanks for another episode , always appreciate your take and questions in these conversations Steven. “The honest truth is” your still lieing Matt!
do what thou wilt
As someone who lost my father to covid in the first wave, we were not able to visit dad as he lay dying. We stood outside his window and prayed. We continued to hope.
We got asked to send pictures of ourselves so they could place them around him and our names so they could say them to him. To let him know we cared.
We received the phone call to say he was not going to survive. That they had tried everything but it could not be enough. The pain of receiving that call 😓💔. The hospital went against what was allowed and let both me and my mum with him in his final moments whilst the rest of the family were outside knowing he was about to pass. Emily, an incredible nurse who had cared for dad with so much love for those two weeks sobbed. Devastated alongside us.
Once he had died and because we had been into ICU, we would now have to self isolate for 14 days away from the family. No hugs from anyone because we had the privilege of being with him when he died. This is something we know is an absolute privilege because tens of thousands of families were unable to. Tens of thousands of people died alone.
The funeral was a graveside burial with only 8 of us there.
The pain of hearing Hancock’s voice. Of showing barely any remorse. For showing little ‘empathy,’ the thing he astonishingly thinks he has. Of his blind loyalty to a Prime Minister who has laughed in the face of every single person who sacrificed for the greater good.
Thank you for interviewing him and letting him expose himself as the odious, self-obsessed, shallow little man he is. The pain he caused through his bad decision making alongside the government to so many of us is unparalleled. Even ‘ in hindsight’ you continued to give yourself a clap on the back.
I hope you read this comment too, Hancock.
I am so deeply sorry for your unimaginable loss, Sarah 🧡🧡🧡
I’m really sorry to read of the loss of your dad. I am seething with you watching this, I need him to understand how despised he is, how pathetic his rebrand is and if he could kindly go hide in a shed forever even for the sake of his kids let alone the rest of the hurt he’s inflicted.
Sarah, I am so sorry. I also lost my father, quite suddenly it was within a short period of time in 2020 when he got diagnosed with cancer. From March 2020 to June 2020 he was in and out of hospital, sometimes for weeks at a time and we lost so many valuable moments with him in his last few months. Matt Hancock was a the poster boy for me not being able to see my Dad and then to find out he was out there doing whatever he liked, although I wasn't totally surprised, it still felt like a knife in my stomach. He's a vile human being and deserves no sympathy, I'm glad he was on the podcast if for no other reason than to expose himself for the pathetic person he clearly is. Once again, very sorry for your loss and I feel your pain. We will be holding a celebration of life for my Dad some time this year, since the funeral was so small. Although it's not the same it could be a way to help to remember your Dad's life and reconnect with those friends and others who loved him. Lots of love to you and your family.
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
@@user-yv4nf8qp4u He did off the working people you are correct in that
Well done Steven for staying cool, calm and collected in the more challenging parts of the conversation. They were difficult to watch but alot of respect to you.
Just remember: if Hancock can become the Health Secretary and Boris the Prime Minister then you can achieve your goals
That's all the motivation I need 😄
@@LizzieKristina 😂
Oh and you have to be white which will give you a much higher chance
Good point
Literally anything is possible at this point 😅
The way he tries to control the interview and becomes flippant almost immediately is a true show of character
Stefan was a push over
He was indicating whenever he received a "gotcha" question
so easy to talk waffle when your mind is closed. Personally felt he did a reasonable job with covid. I've yet to hear from anyone else as to how it "should" have been done. @@mohammedalnahyan4604
Yes, I agree!!
Steven , you are an incredibly gifted interviewer. You listen , you don’t interrupt and you ask intelligent , relevant questions. You have a rare gift in that you can draw people out without sounding intrusive.
Rishi Sunak a ‘difficult background’? As a brown person I can confirm Uncle Rishi is a rich Asian person and was born into a privileged, rich Asian family. Great podcast but so further from reality in some parts.
His wife is extremely rich too.
@@OrangeBananaPear indeed. An inherent millionaire
He’s a classic privileged politician born to rich parents, privately educated turned banker. If he wasn’t brown then people would look at him they way they looked at David Cameron. As a brown person, I find Hancock’s claim insulting
It actually made me laugh out loud when he said about Rishi coming from an ordinary background, his mum was a pharmacist!!!!! I’m not quite sure how much a pharmacist earns but I don’t think it’s very ordinary 😱
@ivah kennis his parents paid for him to go to a private boarding school, unaffordable to the vast amount of people, that is privilege
Matt Hancock asking for "the question to be asked in a more respectful way" while being questioned about doing one of the most disrespectful things possible to his wife and kids is laughable
The worst part is him trying to spin it into a Richard Curtis love story.
not rewally
@@taliatress2483 I think it's hilarious. What a horrible man
Listen he married for perception not love. Now he is with someone for love. Why don’t people get it, the majority of people do not marry for love. They went the red benefits; children; perception and settling!
@@mray9305 let's see how long will that last..
The fact he says Rishi Sunak was from a rough background by his father being a pharmacist 🤣🤣🤣
So rough he had a private education .
Literally living in a bubble. Must be nice in that bubble.
Sunak's Mother was a Pharmacist! If you know that part of Southampton, you'd understand the point better. Why is it, that we think paid education is worse than multiple luxury holidays? How Sunak's parents choose to spend their own money is entirely their business not ours. As for Hancock, he explained his education pathway, due to his extraordinary ability despite dyslexia, to compete with older contemporaries and succeed at a high level.
His father was not a pharmacist actually
His father being an Indian, running a shop in a working class area of 1970s Britian, for him yes that would of been rough.
Only just found this podcast, unbelievable the way you handled yourself against a politician. One of the best podcasts around
You must be joking!
I was disappointed in Stephen here. Maybe because he’s looking to be an MP ?
@@Foxyexrnyou have to tiptoe around someone who has a narcissistic wound, dismissive avoidant…etc.
He likely could read the likelihood that avoidant tactics would be deployed if he wasn’t careful..that’s actually wise.
You’re essentially with a “man” who has the emotional intelligence/awareness/literacy of a toddler and/or early teen… so, to keep them participating, you learn how to navigate it
@@Alphacentauri819 good point 👏🏻
Brilliant interview Steven! Nice to see an actual discussion, rather than the usual political line of questioning trying to trick the guest into saying something “headlines worthy”. You are a great interviewer, giving space to the guest to reply with a thoughtful answer. Top job!
Steven is doing a better job then all of the journalists out here
Completely disagree. He got off so lightly. The whole respect and empathy nonsense spouted is just incredible irony.
A guy who cheated on his wife and country and who blindly supports a prime minister who missed cobra meetings, openly spoke about shaking everyone's hands whilst simultaneously telling everyone to social distance to be interrupted by Chris Whitty in the same sentence. Then get the virus itself.
Also as a advisor on data protection, what he said was absolute lies. He is exactly the reason why there should be cameras in every public service domain. To keep people accountable! It has nothing to do with privacy.
@@bigbawsdogg Spot on BK.
Ummm most (broadcast journalists at least) have held him to account... How can you compare a tell all sit down with journalists🤔?
*than
He got off lightly and he keeps declining an interview with piers morgan so what does that tell you 🤔🤔
One of the reasons this podcast is so great is because of Steven’s willingness to have discussions with a wide variety of people. You don’t have to agree with all opinions of the guest, or even like them, to learn something new from the conversation.
I’ve never really understood the mindset of politicians (as politics is something I don’t personally enjoy) but this episode is helping me gain more insight into how a politician thinks and needs to process/balance difficult decisions.
Although I don’t agree with much of what Matt Hancock said, I do have to respect his willingness to talk on such an open platform like a podcast. I don’t think too many politicians would be willing to do that due to the high risk of being exposed for saying one wrong thing.
Also love how you kept the bit in about casual sex when Hancock kept asking to start that bit again.
he is trying to improve his public image - totally self serving
Regardless of what he says we have all been brainwashed.
When i rule the world failed ex-ministers in roll neck jumpers will be illegal
@@traymitt thats literally what everyones aim with social media is not just politicians
Love how you articulate yourself Steven and how you stay calm and make yourself clear
His smirk when talking about the affair shows that the one thing he doesn’t have is empathy
Hes a sociopath and not even a good one
He’s a fake and a snake. How you get them is how you lose them.
Needs kneecapping. I'm in.
he's disgusting.
because he is evil
One cannot "control" falling in love, but one can control how one reacts to those feelings.
I kinda like that quote.
And his sob story about his school. Imagine if you were a kid whose Dad was on the front page of the Sun cheating on your Mum? He can't even show empathy for his own kids, let alone those who lost loved ones in the pandemic. Tosser.
I tried my hardest to watch all this with an open mind, and I was almost sold until towards the end, when he said he only resigned when people he respected told him they couldn’t visit dying relatives. Which tells me he didn’t initially respect the general public who was all going through the same thing! 🤷🏼♂️
Great podcast as always though Steven! Incredible guest! Keep them coming! 👌🏼👏🏼
Well done!
My thoughts exactly! They ALL behave exactly the same in their little club.
I agree - but also I don’t believe him for a second. He’s the health secretary - he should’ve already known that people made those sacrifices. He mentioned the dying relatives to seem like the bigger person
well done. personally speaking, i couldn’t really stand more than a few minutes of the egregious slime ball democide enabler attempting to justify its existence.
It's funny. He starts by saying politics is not based on nepotism that it's okay that the people who run the country are all from the same elite circle because they all have empathy. Then he closes by revealing he got hired for all his ministerial jobs based on who he knew and not because of his competence, that he hired Gina with our taxpayer money because she's someone he knew and the only reason he resigned is not because he had empathy for the public, but because people he personally knew and respected told him their stories of hardship.
I wonder how many other policy decisions have come about only because people he personally knows are impacted and not because of what is beneficial for the British public as a whole??
@@diamonument8777 no different really from the political club finding money for themselves and each other but not for the general public in the form of wise and just spending on behalf of the much stung taxpayer who funds them, himself and everyone else.
think my jaw actually dropped when he asked for the question regarding the cctv footage to be "asked in a more respectful way" as if it was more disrespectful than him cheating on his wife and blatantly breaking his own rules 😌
I approached this podcast with a completely clear mind. Removing judgement and see if Mr Hancock can teach me anything about politics, which I usually have the usual eye rolling motions for. It really felt like personal PR. I admire Steven for adding this dimension to his guest list and I did get value from it. However, with guests like Mo Gawdat, Fern Cotton, Mary Portas, Matthew Syed, Johann Hari etc, etc - it does show the difference between great thinkers and those in Downing Street.
Johann Hari, James Smith, Mo Gawdat really made me reflect on my life ... Hancock just makes me want to vomit. He should be nowhere near a position to make big decisions like he was.
Did you just refer to Fern Cotton as a great thinker? Lol I think you need to read some more books.
@@wendywolfman 🤣🤣🤣 I thought the same
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
@@user-yv4nf8qp4u 😂🤣😅
No matter how hard I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, and how hard he tries to come across as 'sincere' and 'only human', ultimately I am left feeling that this man ( Hancock) is a self serving, duplicitous slime ball who is both the symptom and the actual condition of everything that is wrong in British politics currently. In my view he should not be explaining his actions on a podcast, but before a Court of Law.
All because the lady loves milk tray
Perfect assessment
He is an absolute slimeball
Glad to see that there was a hidden camera in the lift at the start as a tribute to Hancock ..
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Omg did not even think of it like that round 2😂😂
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I'm a registered nurse of 20 years, one who was sacked, by the way, due to not wanting a forced jab, thanks to Matt Hancock's policy. I'm also a service user of the NHS. I don't think for one minute that Matt Hancock sits on a 2 year waiting list for the NHS, and definitely uses private healthcare. As a nurse, I would definitely want a doctor as health secretary rather than someone who knows nothing about healthcare. To be honest, anyone would have done a better job than him. It was his policy that forced people to die alone and denied their loved ones the ability to be with them, when they were at their most vulnerable and frightened. I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth
I'm genuinely sorry you lost your job over this, it should never have happened.
@@YoullClapWhenImGone Thank you. I was actually then re-employed after 6 months when the government reversed their decision. I'm grateful for that. Had they not, I still wouldn't have taken it. Thank you for your message
@@annazrelli4954 I'm really happy to hear it worked out for you in the end 🙂, you shouldn't have been put in that position to begin with, I could write/rant all day about how wrong it all was but I'll just say I'm glad it all worked out ok, and again I applaud that you were brave enough to stand up for yourself at such a difficult time. Wishing you all the best for the future 🙂
Steven has his tongue firmly up this sh+ts fundament.
I see a genuine man and a man trying his very best to act as genuine.
Bravo Steven. The line of questioning around political nepotism/ lack of diversity in politics and expertise required within ministerial leadership - specifically in the areas of digital - echoed everything I consistently get frustrated at, as someone who works in leadership within the digital industry and as someone who came from a working class background and has had to make significant sacrifices to get to where I am now…without the help of friends/family in high places! Thank you for always asking the tough questions and representing 👏.
Ugh diversity
Why do people from a working class background always have to mention their background.. life’s a fight wherever you’re from. For some it’s easier for some it’s harder. You were probably more privileged then 5 billion on this planet.
Just when you think who will Steven get next, he throws a massive curve ball and get someone totally unexpected 😧😧 I got my popcorn ready for this one 🍿 👀
LITERALLY!!
You clearly don’t follow him on Twitter then. As he shared this weeks ago :)
Right?! I don’t use twitter so wouldn’t have seen any marketing for it. Looking forward to listening!!
Thanks for such an interesting interview! It's rare to have a politician be interviewed in this manner. Very insightful and thoughtful questions were asked. I loved how you managed to hold your ground and remain respectful when the conversation heated up. Great job!
It doesn't matter if you hate or love Matt Hancok, it is very good to hear him talk without some journalist snapping at him
100% agree
I love how Rishi Sinai is described as “one of us” because his mum is a pharmacist... left out one small point mate, Rishi Sunak’s father-in-law is a billionaire.
Think the point he was making was Rishi didn't grow up with a billionaire father-in-law it was inherited through marriage. But I get your point he's not 'one of us'.
@@alexanderhogg2559 I was wrong. It wasn’t father-in-law. It was step father. My bad.
@@alexanderhogg2559 how did his parents afford the private school for Rishi? Pretty sure they were very wealthy. Lets not make it out like he comes from humble beginnings. Maybe his parents do but certainly not him.
Also the insinuation that a pharmacist is some minimum wage job
And his thing of himself being middle class, not sure many people from Cheshire sound like him
Fair play for Hancock to do the podcast. Personally I took this podcast with a huge pinch of salt as I think it felt like a PR stunt. I feel it is him probably trying to make amends for what he has done but also to help build his profile back up again, which I think the majority of people will feel is in the toilet. For me it was a good insight into the politics world especially through his political career and through COVID.
Watching Matt speak makes me realise just how far away we are from really communicating showing our true selves being vulnerable, open and honest in business. However a sense of duty for democracy especially in this current climate is essential. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Matt Hancock strikes me as someone not particularly self aware. He also struggles being genuinely vulnerable. I didn't manage 10 minutes on this one!
I watched the whole thing and agree with you
The way he reacted to Ste asking about the casual sex part surprised me
Imo ste didn’t ask the question in a disrespectful way at all
@@FalcaoXTZ he’s a narcissist and this was purely an act for PR
It's a symptom of the game of politics when you're attacked from every angle it takes a special individual to be grounded in oneself, those types avoid politics by virtue of its design
@@Jakarih1999 wait til you find out that everyone does podcasts for PR reasons
Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
Really pleased to come across this dialogue. Long-form open discussions such as this is very much welcomed in modern democracies. I didnt agree with everything Matt Hancock did over the pandemic however, to witness a human conversation such as this encourages better understand and reduces political division. More like these please
Listen to The Political Party with Matt Forde. It's brilliant. Long form interviews with politicians doing back years.
Well put sir.
Over the pandemic I have lost faith in journalism and the way they berate politicians and unable to listen. So refreshing to hear a fresh discussion with humanity
Absolutely no excuse for doing this to his wife and kids. Where society is today was perfectly reflected by the fact that everyone just cared about him breaking covid rules but not the cheating on his wife
Absolutely agree!
It’s weird isn’t it… cheating doesn’t even seem like a big deal in society nowadays. It’s continuously romanticised by film and TV, and clearly in real life situations too judging by this interview. You can leave someone, but why cheat? So scummy and hurtful
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Got 6 kids, doesn't talk about them once, just that he loves this new woman. Odd.
@@tomcolton5662 Eight lives affected by his narcissism!
Did he just say Sunak came from a difficult background 😂😂 16:45
Great interview Steven. The part where you questioned Matt on the typical background of the political landscape and he mentions Rishi Sunak as an example. Yes son of a pharmacist (and GP) but he also went to Winchester College, an elite private school. He definitely did not come from a difficult background.
when he asked how he managed the thoughts and how he slept at night knowing his decision during the day are life and death decisions. you could see on matts face that he never really thought about and he slept just fine
Saw a clip of this on Facebook and couldn’t believe what I was seeing.
Incidentally, ‘Let’s start this again, in a way I prefer!’ was ALSO what I was saying during the whole of Covid.
I thought I'd hate this, but I learned a lot from Steven's approach to interviewing someone that he doesn't fully agree with, connect on a deeper level with or feel fully inspired by in the way that he does his other guests. This must have been a difficult interview to conduct calmly, so hats off to you, Steven!
Fantastic podcast. Whether you like him or not, it’s nice to see a politician be able to explain their answers without the media just sniping at them and trying to catch them out.
Great work, Steven. Amazing interview.
I bet we never see that hidden lift camera shot again. Reserved for special guest. Good work Steven. 😂
Inspired by Dragons Den 🤣
Time stamp?
@@SF-lo3ob right at the start
Fair play to Steven for having Hancock on. We need more diversity in these types of platforms.
It’s pretty hard to warm to Hancock. Self-righteousness combined with so many glib responses on a life or death topic is not acceptable. Nor is having a totally inept and under qualified individual in the position of Health Secretary.
Respect that he came on and fronted it, most wouldn't
How on earth did Steven get Matt Hancock on the podcast 😂
His persuasion levels must be on another level
Cash grab for Hancock
More to the point why....he's a lying, cheating waste of space if what he did was in the private sector he would be in jail....
Right! 👀
Does Steve pay guests to come on? I'm not sure how it's a cash grab
This conversation actually made me see him as a human and just like the rest of us. Whilst I don’t agree with many of his points, it was really interesting to see his perspective. Thanks Steven!
I was thinking the exact thing myself. Well put.
But the same with Gordon Brown so isn’t that failure if they can’t come across as real in their public talks
Most humans would have difficulty walking out on their six children publicly because they "fell in love".
Being human isn't his issue, I've never understood that term - what else would he be except human?
His issue is lack of compassion, honesty and empathy whilst being in a role/position where people's lives were in his hand. Further, not just ANY group of people, his own family - six children too.
I have sympathy because we all fall short, but I can see and hear that he is/was in a boys club and act/acted like it until he had to put his hands up!
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
You should get Dominic Cummings on the podcast! I’m here for all that tea!! 😏
This guy is priceless! How he can sit there and say he ‘took responsibility’. He had no intention of doing anything until he got caught. He was well aware that people couldn’t visit dying relatives at the time he was knocking off his new bird. Matt Hancock is a monster and to top it off one of the worst health secretaries this country has seen.
shame no1 asked him about midazolam
Hancock is a member of the UK Parliament Mafia., a slimy sneaky creep in a den of snakes
Nothing less than an entitled despicable little prick
To be fair this reminded me that Matt Hancock is still human, and not a robot. That was a really insightful podcast
he's a pig
lol hancock is not a human, he has no empathy. he killed 40,000
Sorry don’t know how you came to that conclusion…he’s got no empathy no emotions, he’s so self absorbed….we will never forgive or forget .
@@s.e1150 covid did that not him. If he killed 40,000 people he would be in prison. Think of the facts
@@grantlavender5499 lol dont be so ignorant. covid did kill those people. look it up
I'd love to see a body language expert break this conversation down.
Found this incredibly interesting. Was not, and probably still, am not a fan of Mr Hancock but I always appreciate listening to different perspectives. I think that's what garners progress and gets us closer to where we need to be.
Body language expert here he is nervous wants be liked on podcast. Also feel he was honest as he felt he could be.
The effort you went into to make this happen and Matt Hancock chosing you as a platform to speak up is a testament to you and your team. Podcast is brilliant quality. However, I struggled with buying into it. Not sure whether it was the delivery or just a feeling of a media stunt to save himself. Who knows. There are 2 sides to every story and there is the truth....
Yes, I felt the cctv footage that went viral was staged - I'll have to watch this in full to see if the above is also a stunt. I agree that Steven is doing an incredible job, he's a true star.
PR stunt
PR attempt by Hancock, which failed by the way. Steven is just brilliant
Absolutely shocking questions here the same old propaganda bullshit from Steve, great PR this for Mr matt
@@josephhunter1627 Yes questions are low-ball!
Fair play to Stephen for pulling this one off 👏
I’ll just sit here patiently for Bojo’s episode
Honestly 👏🏾I salute him.
Unfortunately bojos not that silly... (well).
great podcast, incredible to listen to Hancock speak where he avoids any accountability and somehow seems to view himself as a hero.
tried to listen without any prior prejudices but his inability to take responsibility and the way he treats the thousands who died as a simple statistic is genuinely baffling- not to mention his completely warped opinion on meritocracy and the idea that politics isn’t a rich boys club.
Well said, Tyler.
Congrats on a great podcast. It’s so hard to believe anything he actually says because of his awful track record of lying but you did a great job with his questions and I admired the manner at which you handled him. Very interesting how he thinks he has empathy despite your examples you gave what you think empathy was…
wow the mood changed quickly when it went onto personal life, he talked about communication and how politicians shouldn't be so media driven, and was coming across really well and before the question about casual sex was even brought up he was wanting to start the segment again.
He wanted to CONTROL the situation .... despicable, delusional , duplicitous , hypocritical waffler still treating the British public like complete & utter fools . His arrogance is off the scale . But let’s get serious and v personal here ... no red blooded woman could ever genuinely be attracted to such a puny little dweeb . Urrghhh .... he’s truly stomach turning .
I listened to this on my morning walk. I LOVE the weekly instalments of this podcast / youtube channel, in fact it forms an important part of my week. I binge listen to these chats. But for me, Matt is so guarded and his answers are exactly what you would expect from a politician. He opens saying he wants to be open but in reality that isn't what this is. LOVE Steven and will always listen, but this episode isn't the usual life-changing, earth shattering chats I look forward to.
Steven should get his own chat show on TV he's just awesome chilled and natural☺️
Hindsight is always PERFECT when you SPIN the questions.
Television would RUIN his style. Mainstream is poison.
@@bellabell737 - exactly what I was going to say.
@@bellabell737 that’s exactly my thoughts
I wish all interviews were like this. It’s nice to feel as if I’m trusted to make my own mind up about someone, you get so much more out of someone when you let them speak! I get the interviews where the interviewer just wants a sound bite. I got a lot out of this.
This is just amazing. Well done you
Thanks you
this comment is so unspecific it shows you've not watched it Alex looool
This is exactly why I'm obsessed with this podcast. A mix of raw and honest information with a host that is just asking the right questions with empathy! Fucking brilliant Steven! 🔥
That's what they WANT you to think. They purposely made it seem that way within the first five minutes ON PURPOSE. You fell for it, hook line and sinker
@@MrAsh1989 c’est la vie Ash 😉 I guess he’s doing a good job if I manage to empathise with someone that’s been the villain in the story. Also everyone is entitled to their option and perspective, so I hope you can respect mine ✨
@@danaigreek I can't respect what I feel was a complete coercive brainwash... But I can show you manners and not abuse you by arguing with you...
@@MrAsh1989 fair enough
@@MrAsh1989 lol, presenting minimal human decency and freedom of speech as if you're doing someone a favour... How condescending. Your moral supremacy is pervasive in your basic dialogue. "I can't respect someone else's opinion if I don't agree with it" is what you meant. Don't make it seem like you're doing someone a favour by not abusing them simply for expressing their opinion, it's the bare minimum you should do.
Steven!!! Touché my friend touché. You did us proud in bringing this guy on, this is something close to my heart!! So we’ll done.
Being part of the roll out of vaccine and at the frontline with patients dying every day and seeing the horrendous repercussions of Covid-19 I didn’t understand why the decisions from the politicians was so up in the air and changed constantly. We were told to do this that and the other at a drop of a hat. What they didn’t do is empathise with us.
Steven, you really have gotten to the bottom of things and asked some really hard questions that got to the bottom of the mindset of Matt making decisions. Every person from ceo to doctor to cleaner didn’t know what was happening. No every two hours in the day were the same.
And now we see why, in “hindsight” we would’ve don’t think differently and took leadership in our own hands.
This talk made me empathise with Matt and making him a little more human than just a robot.
I commend him and his player mentality in politics. Built up others, took responsibility for his actions.
OMG .... u gotta be joking . He was caught ; took no responsibility then , or now, for hypocritical double standards, deaths in Covid or his adultery . Watching him wriggle, gesticulate & try to control the question says all we need to know ab the character ( or lack thereof ) of the man . No accountability at all ....still treating the public like utter fools
Phenomenal interview! One of the few times I have seen a public representative engage in a genuine conversation about their personal frailties and the reality of their political career. Credit to Steven for facilitating this, and to Matt for allowing it!
Eric. You must be joking!
Thanks Steven. I imagine it could be challenging to focus when you get interrupted even when you're asking questions. You're so respectful - so great to watch and learn from.
P Too Never stop your enemy when they're making a mistake.
absolute breath of fresh air. So insightful, and much needed in these days of politician speak and covering ones arse constantly. You need to do this with as many politicians as possible without restriction! Thank you man
Matt Hancock is surely an interesting character to say the least, you can definitely tell he’s a politician. Well done Steven for asking genuine questions that the public would love to know the answer to as well, and for standing your ground. I really appreciate this conversation, looking forward to next weeks podcast!
You are always so tactile and honest, Steven. Anyone else would push more, making their guest annoyed and reluctant to share. Your charisma is your greatest strength, I think (not that I know you at all lol) x
Isn't tactile touchy feely 😂
@@mahnaznadeem902 I think she meant tactful.
Stephen...well done. You showed him up for what he is without resorting to insults. His arrogant defence propelled him straight into his own sh#t!!
Started watching this channel and love it. This is what interviews should be about … the person across the table. Matt Hancock comes across well because he’s given time to talk by a neutral interviewer. Contrast this to our so called journalists who constantly cram interview with too many questions, interrupt and leave the listeners with misrepresented summaries. This selfish approach is all about the journalist who search out angles, revelations and click bait to further their reputations and in doing so they pollute the minds of many. Well done Steven on your channel. It shows what can be achieved in the pursuit of truth. Journalists are the new estate agents !
For example, James O’Brien……Leading Britain’s Interruption. .
I also got diagnosed as dyslexic at uni, prior to that I thought I was just stupid, tnx for shining a light on it.
This podcast is exactly what podcasts should be about. The line of questioning a couldn’t be more perfect.. gives the guests room to give their points and say what they want to say, but also always playing devils advocate (or even just Stephens real views on the matter)
Did Hancock know this was being recorded? Or was he oblivious to it?
🤣🤣
Your amazing Stephen I love your interview skills and Matt is being straight too!
He mentioned Rishi Sunak when referencing some of the conservative members diverse backgrounds… didn’t mention his Dad was a well-paid GP & was privileged enough to attend independent school, to then go on to study the same course as Hancock at Oxford 😂
Matt Hancock awkwardly pouring a glass of Huel while being questioned about his illicit romance.
HE MAKES MY FLESH CREEP
Thank you, very interesting interview and beautifully managed with intelligent questions.
❤️
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
I appreciate the broad complexities of this discussion and I think it was a great one to have. Opening up the channels of genuine communication plays a small part in the wider agenda that Steven and our generation is pushing for and I think he is doing so successfully.
I am not and never have been a Conservative voter. But this is the first time I've ever seen an interview with any tory MP (past or present) being human. How refreshing. I admire Matt Hancock for doing this. I wish all politicians were this 100% open and honest when in office.
I think the problem is that the media doesn't really give them a chance - it's all a "hustle" to fill a 3 minute segment. Journos ask "gotcha" type questions hoping for the politician to make a headline worthy blunder, politicians go on the defensive by repeatedly ducking the question and trotting out the PR office approved soundbite over and over again. Yawn. It's only on long format podcasts like this, with a respectful, level-headed and even handed interviewer that you start getting somewhere.
Imagine breaking the rules you set for over 60 million people and publicly destroying your own family and justifying it with “because I fell in love with somebody”. A literal grown man.
Well if you listen to what he said, it provides context and a reson for his behavy, WHICH BY THE WAY I THINK IS ABHORRENT but we must remember he is only human. Like he said, he's working from 7-8am till midnight, didn't really have weekends, little time with himself and more importantly with his family. If you take that into account, it makes more sense, doesn't excuse it. Just helps it make sense
@@ryancrane2815 still makes zero sense to me. Especially with how easily and callously he lied to the public and his own family whilst having an affair
He still seems to think he did nothing wrong other than ‘falling in love’
@@donnamacauley4080 you're not exactly out the blue gonna be like 'oh btw guys I was lipsing my assistant in the offices you pay for'
@@ryancrane2815 exactly which is why it didn’t make sense for him to impose such strict rules whilst he was cheating on his wife on the side. He literally told the public not to engage in casual sex whilst he was engaging in casual sex himself
He’s a liar, a cheat and a hypocrite and the fact he tried to make it seem romantic in this podcast makes it even more embarrassing
When Hancock talks , we shall all be quiet and listen 🎧.Mr Matthew Hancock , will always be held as man for and off the working class people people.The man saved countless lives, respect to Hancock . He wanted to put us all in lockdown as early as Christmas 2019, to save our priceless nhs and save lives!Hancock was a major part in delivering our world 🌎 beating vaccine 💉 programme with William Shakespeare !Build the man a statue today, award him a knighthood and an mp payrise. Matt cared for all of us, he has a heart of solid gold ,hence why he showed his emotions on good morning Britain. Matt you are the best prime minister, that Britain 🇬🇧 has never had. In Hancock we shall all continue to trust ! Thankyou
It's VERY simple. The head/minister of each department should be REQUIRED to be an expert in that field as well as a leader who can democratically deploy good solutions. Those two traits are not mutually exclusive! The health secretary should OBVIOUSLY be someone with a background in health eg a doctor or biologist/adjacent fields (masters and PhD).
Other fields don't necessarily require the academic background but a significant amount of relevant industry experience!
Exactly
I lost interested when you highlighted VERY
It’s interesting how different politicians come across when contrasted with Steven’s previous guests. Guests who are intelligent, leaders in their field etc have an air of genuine enthusiasm for their craft / ideas. There’s something very disingenuous and artificial about Matt Hancock.
I never really cared for giving my time to this type of content, I generally Que what I like and listen without watching but one day this channel found its way onto my screen and captured my attention. Now I am hooked. I love, LUV how you engage and listen Steven. Your energy oozes from your silent presence which in my opinion helps your guests to deliver their authentic selves. Thank you, even difficult topics to listen to become soothing and palatable.
I purposefully watched every second of this to give Hancock a final chance to change my opinion of him. And honestly, even tho I disagree with a lot of things he has done, I have a lot more respect for this man than I previously did. Thank you Steven, I think everyone should be allowed an opportunity like this after people in a negative public eye..
Can I ask what did he say or do that gave you more respect for him? I still can't stand him. I have tried to not be biased but this didn't change my opinion on him.
@@High2GetBy personally, seeing him in a human environment where his job isn’t on the line and he could just talk was refreshing. I cant and won’t say I’m his biggest fan, because I’m not. However hearing him have a normal conversation with a normal human did give me more respect for him. What he did to his family is inexcusable and overall I still think he is a twat. But a twat that I have more respect for
The horror my family went through in 2020, I watched my Father die in front of me. We couldn't go see him in hospital in the 3 months he deteriorated from cancer and he was in and out, sometimes for weeks at a time. Matt Hancock is, at the core, a hypocrite, a loser and will never garner any sympathy from me. I appreciate you bringing him on for differences in opinion, to get a wide range of viewpoints because that's always key in a democracy and personally, as a libertarian I believe we all have the right to our opinion and to speak freely to make informed decisions. However, this man is not someone I can ever warm to personally and I continue to harbour a large amount of disgust towards him. Will continue to watch diary of a CEO though, a valuable channel.
Couldn't agree more
I listened to this on podcast but I had to come over here to make a comment. I was in two minds if I wanted to listen to Matt Hancock but I did and I’m so glad I did. It was so interesting hearing his perspective and I can’t imagine how hard being health secretary during a pandemic would be. He’s human and just like us all - nobody can make the perfect decisions all the time - he did what he thought was best and obviously made some mistakes. I’m glad I gave him a chance today. Steven you did an amazing job! Loved your questions. I’m obsessed with this podcast/you tube. I w watched non stop all weekend. X
Hancock giving PPE contracts to his mates wasn’t an honest mistake, get a grip.
The fact that only 6 people could attend a funeral is absolutely disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves. While they were partying, we couldn’t say goodbye to our loved ones…
This interview has done nothing but confirm my impression of this man.
*The sense of duty???* I just can't.. This man is something else
23:45 - I burst out laughing when Steven said "they haven't got a f***ing clue 😂😂
I think it is very valuable for controversial people to come on podcasts and interviews like this as we get time with them and they allowed to speak. I listened to a shorter but similar interview with Dianne Abbott last year and both of these people, you realise, are real people with feelings and emotions. Its not about agreeing with everyone, but listening to people, especially when they take a different stance to you. As I've got older I have increasingly found I am frustrated with so many peoples' need to dislike a person just because they disagree with them.
Underrated comment
You’re a very good empath 👍🏻
7mins in enjoying it thus far. Just shows people are human,regatdless of their position.
The whole covid and vaccine topic... Matt's such a good actor 😍😩
I love the hidden camera 📷 in the beginning ready for round 2 captures 🤣😂😂
He comes across as such a disingenuous person and far removed from reality, he honestly won’t feel empathy and is very dishonest, he only took responsibility because he got caught, great podcast and was nice to see him squirm 😂
my takeaways too.
This. A complete full of shit politician. Would not trust him one bit.
I’d love to see an episode with Katie Piper 💕
I admire the casual, but powerful focus of questioning. That connects to people. Top gig, a tough one to watch tbh.
watched through all of this, absolutey amazing have a completley different perspective of Matt.
I can't believe people are giving this entity the time of day. Wish everyone could see him for what he is.
This entity 😂
Who? Hancock?
people are so easily fooled. its sickening
bad isn't it. why did you not ask Matt about Midazolam ??
@@s.e1150 This interview was nothing less than an opportunity for Hancock to propagandise. No hard questions were asked 'cept about his affair. He was gloating at the lack of sophistication of his interviewer. Badly done Stevan!
Wow, I have never seen this guys videos before. I agree exactly with what he says on empathy, politicians will never grasp how it is to live a "normal" life despite what Matt says.
My story: I did amazing at college, and graduated with 3 A levels. I had also worked full-time my whole teenage and adult life. My partner worked also. We became parents and our relationship broke down. I then could not work due to two kids one at school, one at preschool (the free amount of hours we get). I decided that while my youngest is not of school age, I'd go back to studying to complete my BA. We struggle daily, especially now the prices have rocketed.
How can Matt or any of the members of parliaments understand that kind of life? How could any of them understand that if my eldest needs a new pair of school shoes, I have to make cut backs for the rest of the month. Matt's relationship broke down and we haven't seen him have to claim benefits to support his children. Life is incredibly hard for the lower classes, no matter how smart we are. What would help me, is if higher education was free and then the class devision would not be so apparent, everyone what have a level playing field. Single parents should be allowed free education, rather than be forced into low paid jobs, but as we know; is clear to me that the government make it so we fail.
Well done Bartlett for standing your ground!!! He may have been a politician,but this is HIS podcast, and he WILL ask the questions he chooses and how 😎