I have been practicing my forms using Silver's quarterstaff techniques in the park, and saw a guy doing what I think was a wu shu staff style, with a longer and more flexible staff, but the similarities with wylde were noticeable. Until he feinted, dropped the butt on the ground and performed a flying roundhouse kick at head level using the stick as a prop!
Interesting and very well presented video which made things easy to understand. The selection on Wylde videos will all require multiple revisits and be a constant source of reference. Thanks so much for posting.
Good idea. There is definitely stuff for here for two-handed sword. It does have some lineage in the British tradition. One of those early English 2HSword sources, Leddle maybe..? has the strokes of the staff and 2- handed sword. Also, Wylde's method doesn't have a change of hands ie. swapping sides. It is all right hand on top and hands separated- almost as if you you are holding a two-hander. Paul Wagner said that some of Wylde's staff techniques helped him sort out some big-sword actions and movement, I think I recall.
George Silver says that the longsword is used in the same manner as the staff and then he really doesn't say anything more. At our club we practice George Silver and the Ledall Roll. These plays from Wylde are all easily adaptable for longsword and work for Greatsword as well. Usually before we teach the Chases and Counters of Ledall we teach many of Wyldes plays with the sword instead of the staff as well as the tactical principles of George Silver. This establishes a very strong base going into Ledall.
@@milesmcinerney5594 Ok, I'll work on it. But, in the short term, Low Outside guard on a wide stance is your default defensive stance, play all your blows and strikes on a traversing step (except for when you've slipped a blow), make a lunging step with your thrusts and darts. Time all your guards to be at maximum solidity at the point of impact and fast feet are happy feet.
Good question! Wylde comments that he is surprised that the staff isn't more popular considering its excellence and that it was much practiced and admired in former days. I think we can infer from this that it isn't commonly carried for defence. Swetnam, writing in 1620, recommends a staff for walking i.e. travel overland or rural areas, and a rapier for urban areas. I think we can assume that no-one was carrying a staff for defence in urban/metropolitan areas. But, once out in the countryside- it was likely to be met. And, considering how superior it is, you'll be overmatched if you're just carrying your rapier. From around the 18th century we have more walkingstick/cane manuals being written and, presumably, these were the common method of stick-fighting in towns and cities.
@@korg20000bc : Your answer looks plausible. I was born 1965 and when i was a child or teenager, it was rather often seen, that men older than mid 40s had a wooden cane/ walking stick when walking outside a village or town. As selfdefence tool against dogs or rowdies, or using the stick like a machete when there.is a path blocked by a mix of high hard gras and thin, not realy wooden thorn plants ( in german: Gestrüpp).
I Drew My Ship Into The Harbour / When The Boat Comes In by Eliza Carthy with John Reed and Tristan Glover. Its from the Tim Winton Dirt Music soundtrack.
Ah, well spotted. Wylde says the same thing. He says that this guard was much admired in former days, but it is not so much any more. He says it is weak because the point is dipped and that the inside and outside guards held out at length are superior ways of defending. I suspect there are a couple of reasons that he includes this guard: - His drill is based on his broadwsword drill and Hanging Guard is his favourite broadsword guard. Try to think of this guard as a two-handed broadsword guard. An early English two-handed sword source says to "Bide ye on a pendant" guard. It definitely is a real thing. - It balances the movements in his drill. There are two diagonal movements, followed by a forward circular movement, balance by the backwards circular movement. - The position of the hanging guard is often made when making a parry-riposte with the staff- kind of like flowing through a guardant ward and strike from Silver.
I find the hanging guard transitions very well to a strike or thrust with the butt-end, as Wylde himself recommends often. Otherwise it's a fairly clumsy guard.
I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information on whether the strong hand is forward or back on the staff. Seems like every video or piece of information I find says the opposite of the previous.
That because both are acceptable. Earlier sources tend to assume right hand forward, like a two handed sword, later sources tend to assume left hand forward, like a musket-and-bayonet.
And, Swetnam want you to do both, and change as your opponent changes guard, to match them same hand forward. This reduces certain vulnerabilities that occur when opposite hand are forward. Wylde doesn't bother with this as he uses a low outside instead- the better to match the smallsword and broadsword method he describes earlier.
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Thank you so much for a staff fighting video that actually seems practical!
I have been practicing my forms using Silver's quarterstaff techniques in the park, and saw a guy doing what I think was a wu shu staff style, with a longer and more flexible staff, but the similarities with wylde were noticeable. Until he feinted, dropped the butt on the ground and performed a flying roundhouse kick at head level using the stick as a prop!
Show-off.
Pretty sure that technique is in Paradox of Defence 3: The Flying Kicks
Interesting and very well presented video which made things easy to understand. The selection on Wylde videos will all require multiple revisits and be a constant source of reference. Thanks so much for posting.
Great! Glad you find these helpful. Don't hesitate to ask any questions if you run into any difficulties.
@@korg20000bc Thanks for your kind offer.
Wow great stuff. I'll have to watch it at least a couple of more times.
Thanks for watching. It's a great method to learn.
This, good sir, is excellent!
Wondering how good those Lessons will work with a greatsword.. need to try it as soon as the air clears up
Good idea. There is definitely stuff for here for two-handed sword. It does have some lineage in the British tradition. One of those early English 2HSword sources, Leddle maybe..? has the strokes of the staff and 2- handed sword. Also, Wylde's method doesn't have a change of hands ie. swapping sides. It is all right hand on top and hands separated- almost as if you you are holding a two-hander.
Paul Wagner said that some of Wylde's staff techniques helped him sort out some big-sword actions and movement, I think I recall.
George Silver says that the longsword is used in the same manner as the staff and then he really doesn't say anything more. At our club we practice George Silver and the Ledall Roll. These plays from Wylde are all easily adaptable for longsword and work for Greatsword as well. Usually before we teach the Chases and Counters of Ledall we teach many of Wyldes plays with the sword instead of the staff as well as the tactical principles of George Silver. This establishes a very strong base going into Ledall.
Thanks for this. I have trained with a maister in this but seeing your video is really helpful.
Cheers!
Very interesting--cheers.
thanks that was great just got the book and reading through ,this makes it easier to understand
Excellent.
I'm glad it is helpful.
Outstanding 👍
Thank you. Great work.
Thank you!
Go River! Nice work Matthew. I love your thumbnail!
Thanks, Stephen.
River did a great job- she did everything I needed her too and nothing I didn't.
Great video! Thank you!
Thank you!
My pleasure.
great video, could we get a break down of the techniques with more detail? perhaps a series of videos?
Just re-watch at 0.25 playback speed.
;)
@@korg20000bc Yeah i have been but i have questions about timing, footwork and tactical implementation for nearly all of them haha
@@milesmcinerney5594 Ok, I'll work on it.
But, in the short term, Low Outside guard on a wide stance is your default defensive stance, play all your blows and strikes on a traversing step (except for when you've slipped a blow), make a lunging step with your thrusts and darts. Time all your guards to be at maximum solidity at the point of impact and fast feet are happy feet.
Really lovely song at the beginning. Does anyone know who the singer is, please?
Will you be making a similar video for all the plays of smallsword, broadsword, and wrestling?
A question from Germany. In early 18th century, such long sticks had been carried as selfdefence weapons in England?
Good question!
Wylde comments that he is surprised that the staff isn't more popular considering its excellence and that it was much practiced and admired in former days. I think we can infer from this that it isn't commonly carried for defence. Swetnam, writing in 1620, recommends a staff for walking i.e. travel overland or rural areas, and a rapier for urban areas. I think we can assume that no-one was carrying a staff for defence in urban/metropolitan areas. But, once out in the countryside- it was likely to be met. And, considering how superior it is, you'll be overmatched if you're just carrying your rapier.
From around the 18th century we have more walkingstick/cane manuals being written and, presumably, these were the common method of stick-fighting in towns and cities.
@@korg20000bc : Your answer looks plausible. I was born 1965 and when i was a child or teenager, it was rather often seen, that men older than mid 40s had a wooden cane/ walking stick when walking outside a village or town. As selfdefence tool against dogs or rowdies, or using the stick like a machete when there.is a path blocked by a mix of high hard gras and thin, not realy wooden thorn plants ( in german: Gestrüpp).
Kathren Oggie
Baltimore Consort
this is the second song, but what is the first one called?
I Drew My Ship Into The Harbour / When The Boat Comes In by Eliza Carthy with John Reed and Tristan Glover.
Its from the Tim Winton Dirt Music soundtrack.
@@korg20000bc thanks, but I still didn't find
@@hofstadter4355 www.discogs.com/Various-Dirt-Music-Music-For-A-Novel-By-Tim-Winton/release/5598627
Its a great album.
What purpose does the hanging guard serve? It looks weak, your arms are twisted and bound, and there is no quick strike to be made.
Ah, well spotted.
Wylde says the same thing. He says that this guard was much admired in former days, but it is not so much any more. He says it is weak because the point is dipped and that the inside and outside guards held out at length are superior ways of defending.
I suspect there are a couple of reasons that he includes this guard:
- His drill is based on his broadwsword drill and Hanging Guard is his favourite broadsword guard. Try to think of this guard as a two-handed broadsword guard. An early English two-handed sword source says to "Bide ye on a pendant" guard. It definitely is a real thing.
- It balances the movements in his drill. There are two diagonal movements, followed by a forward circular movement, balance by the backwards circular movement.
- The position of the hanging guard is often made when making a parry-riposte with the staff- kind of like flowing through a guardant ward and strike from Silver.
I find the hanging guard transitions very well to a strike or thrust with the butt-end, as Wylde himself recommends often. Otherwise it's a fairly clumsy guard.
I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information on whether the strong hand is forward or back on the staff. Seems like every video or piece of information I find says the opposite of the previous.
That because both are acceptable. Earlier sources tend to assume right hand forward, like a two handed sword, later sources tend to assume left hand forward, like a musket-and-bayonet.
@@Stoccata I see. Right hand forward just feels awkward to me.
And, Swetnam want you to do both, and change as your opponent changes guard, to match them same hand forward. This reduces certain vulnerabilities that occur when opposite hand are forward.
Wylde doesn't bother with this as he uses a low outside instead- the better to match the smallsword and broadsword method he describes earlier.
I love west styles when beat east
So a falsify is known as a "feint" attack. Got it.
Lousy not real
Guns are better.