Joachim Meyer's Staff Techniques

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2013
  • Halberstangen techniques from Meyer's Treatise of 1570.

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  • @Rikitocker
    @Rikitocker 10 лет назад +25

    It is no surprise that people see so much of the Longsword in the Staff, even George Silver stated that you were the treat his Staff in the same manner as the English Longsword and Swetnam counseled the same. Meyer is a class act.

    • @notfeedynotlazy
      @notfeedynotlazy 5 лет назад

      I even found a technique here that I've incorporated (with a few adaptations) into my own longsword repertory, so much is the overlap

  • @WasserTipps
    @WasserTipps 6 лет назад +68

    My grandpa trained for more than 30 years with staffs, swords and stuff and when he was 70 and taking a walk with his Walking stick he got attacked. …. He destroyed several bones of the attacker… he couldnt walk anymore ;D

    • @xxxxxx5868
      @xxxxxx5868 4 года назад +15

      Your grandpa waited 30 years for the moment a guy tried to rob him lmao

    • @-smp-scientificmethodpersp838
      @-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 3 года назад +17

      @@xxxxxx5868 when most people would be scared, grandpa thought "finally! I was worried this moment would never come"

    • @BubblewrapHighway
      @BubblewrapHighway 3 года назад +3

      @@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 I have a very similar attitude. 😂 But I'll be happy if I never have to use anything I learn. Violence is traumatic.

    • @omari2306
      @omari2306 2 года назад

      HA HA! I KNOW BOY I KNOW, from 1rst hand, it can knock out people too!

    • @619Shippo
      @619Shippo Год назад

      🧢

  • @omari2306
    @omari2306 2 года назад +2

    Meyer is our great helper, you never know when you will need a staff. A staff luckily is not considered a weapon, and you can legally carry it as a trekking token with you all the time, i personally march on with it, a litlle time during the day, it's been gold for me against knife attacks, you have all the distance or even better than that.

  • @Personmr
    @Personmr 9 лет назад +24

    it seems staff techniques share a lot of similaritys with other weapon techniques. the staff seems like the perfect weapon to start learning martial arts.

    • @NonApplicable1983
      @NonApplicable1983 9 лет назад +12

      Meyer actually recommends starting with the longsword. Then you can learn the quarterstaff and the dussack. From the quarterstaff you can move on to other pole weapons and from the dussack to other one-handed swords.

    • @chosenfrozen4006
      @chosenfrozen4006 9 лет назад +10

      Most Chinese martial arts reccomend learning the staff as the first weapon because it teaches you to move both hand at the same time to generate power, and many people tend to naturaly favor one hand so the staff fosters generating power with the whole body.

    • @pepelisbon
      @pepelisbon 4 года назад

      @@chosenfrozen4006 The most famous Samurai defeated is greater rival with a staff.

    • @omari2306
      @omari2306 2 года назад

      You have to study HEMA, Fiore dei Liberi Italian system of Combat to begin to understand.
      You feel like Conan the Barbarian with this stuff as if it were few i am literally called berber
      BARBARIAN so when i do this shit, my blood BOILS haarrd. I have deep Nationalist egos in my heart mainly my vandal ancestors.
      Check out who are the vandals.

  • @Est292
    @Est292 4 года назад

    I love coming back to this when I'm feeling the need for some Meyer. Excellent video!

  • @jomess7879
    @jomess7879 9 лет назад +7

    excellent weapon control and very nicely done.

  • @Gohma55
    @Gohma55 7 лет назад +5

    2:20 is marvelous

  • @cuneiform_enjoyers
    @cuneiform_enjoyers 8 месяцев назад

    Great perfomance! You picked really picturesque scenery

  • @kota86
    @kota86 7 лет назад

    Great stuff presented here!

  • @alaincondello6652
    @alaincondello6652 7 лет назад

    excellente présentation merci à vous!

  • @thunderkettle7829
    @thunderkettle7829 4 года назад

    This is brilliant. Love it!

  • @JediGoshawk
    @JediGoshawk 10 лет назад

    Awesome. Find these to be really useful.

  • @stephena1196
    @stephena1196 10 лет назад +1

    I love this stuff.

  • @haffoc
    @haffoc 8 лет назад

    beautiful work

  • @AngloSaxon1
    @AngloSaxon1 7 лет назад +12

    Very nice, I love the beginner stuff, Could you show the spear attacking with combinations ?

  • @filippomarinodearaujo5205
    @filippomarinodearaujo5205 3 года назад

    Very good. The way you grab the staff and many of the technics in this video reminds of the portuguese "Jogo do pau".

  • @Tcoldsteel
    @Tcoldsteel 3 года назад

    Thanks for showing this

  • @ChuShinTani
    @ChuShinTani 8 лет назад

    Fantastic! Thank you!

  • @AdamBarkerThe
    @AdamBarkerThe 10 месяцев назад

    This is wonderful thank you. I am buying the book to read asap.

  • @368money
    @368money 10 лет назад +58

    I was wondering if you have any training tips for people with no friends?

    • @MEMAG
      @MEMAG  10 лет назад +26

      Solo forms, strikes on a heavy bag, and flourishes will help you memorize techniques and develop some vital attributes, but there really is no substitute for training with a partner. If you solo train in a public place you may just get some interested people who may want to join you. Good luck!

    • @Chrominance87
      @Chrominance87 9 лет назад +15

      +MEMAG or the police just may show up, if you train with blunts.

    • @grimheathen
      @grimheathen 7 лет назад +17

      no friends? Stop hitting people with sticks! haha

    • @dizocilpine
      @dizocilpine 7 лет назад

      i have become a widdler

    • @Canal_Marte
      @Canal_Marte 7 лет назад

      Come to Brazil, join our clan!

  • @YawehthedragondogofEL
    @YawehthedragondogofEL 2 года назад

    Thank you so much.

  • @geraldomothe3299
    @geraldomothe3299 3 года назад

    Perfeito! Saudações do Brasil!

  • @Kopa_Malphas
    @Kopa_Malphas 10 лет назад

    WOW I missed your videos! D: Marathoning now!

  • @japanrockhunt8277
    @japanrockhunt8277 4 года назад +1

    Very very interesting. Simple and natural, I think. Similar to Japanese jiujitsu bo staff Kata.I really like staff fighting because it has sence of primitiveness and I can feel rationality. Beautiful video.

  • @SteveAkaDarktimes
    @SteveAkaDarktimes 5 лет назад +1

    there is definitively some humour in these techniques.

  • @benashurov7434
    @benashurov7434 4 года назад +1

    Thankyou for a very informative video. I have seen some conflicting information with regards to which hand is supposed to be lower down in the high guard. I you could clarify, would be grateful.

  • @ignaciorey6817
    @ignaciorey6817 6 лет назад +2

    I was genuinely amazed by this video and the skills displayed!
    Where can I find a similar training video for the Quarter staff in a more step by instructional format?

  • @PolnareffPendragon22
    @PolnareffPendragon22 Год назад +1

    Beautiful ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐👍🏻

  • @tao123chi
    @tao123chi 8 лет назад

    really nice

  • @gearandalthefirst7027
    @gearandalthefirst7027 8 лет назад +17

    I want to remove the video and just watch the words. And then have Morgan Freeman narrate. And then post it out of context. And then get banned from RUclips. Thank you though, super helpful!

  • @stephen8433
    @stephen8433 Год назад

    Subbed and thumbs up.

  • @kasumikojiro7221
    @kasumikojiro7221 5 лет назад

    Good stuff

  • @ME-hm7zm
    @ME-hm7zm 10 лет назад +1

    Good show as usual, guys.
    While I've got it on my mind, did any of the old masters cover "Wrestling at the staff", or rather, unarmed defense against the staff? I know some German and Italian masters cover it against the longsword, but that's the only "long arm" I've seen defended against while unarmed.

    • @tomarmstrong3276
      @tomarmstrong3276 8 лет назад

      +Michael Eversberg II pretty simple really: RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNN! :D

  • @fanartzone928
    @fanartzone928 3 года назад

    Where do you find these old etch drawings with spear/staff techniques?

  • @djs4329
    @djs4329 6 лет назад

    What would be the correct way to parry the one handed horizontal strike at around 0:40 seconds? Other than voiding that is. Also are there any resources or videos you have that show the correct way to parry staff strikes from Meyer or other sources? Thanks!

  • @gordonadams5891
    @gordonadams5891 6 лет назад

    It looks as if the staff is controlled with the forward hand. Is that correct?

  • @festumstultorum1462
    @festumstultorum1462 Год назад

    This can be applied to the use of same measure pole weapons

  • @davec5310
    @davec5310 3 года назад

    I think I can understand everything they are doing with two principles: Stepping offline and crossing the line.

  • @420potsofale8
    @420potsofale8 7 лет назад +1

    Does "someone who will not work, but lies firm in the parrying" refer to a passive opponent who is good at parrying?

    • @MEMAG
      @MEMAG  7 лет назад +4

      "Work" (arbeit) here means to attack, so the opponent will not attack you, but concentrates on remaining bound on your staff and parrying you so that you may come to no work.

    • @420potsofale8
      @420potsofale8 7 лет назад +2

      MEMAG​​ Thanks for the explanation. It's always interesting to watch and read things like this, but writers of these old manuscripts tend to be vague with their words.
      Or perhaps their wording was suitable for their time, but not as much for ours.

  • @Fyrverk
    @Fyrverk Год назад

    Love

  • @AdelaideSwordAcademy
    @AdelaideSwordAcademy 10 лет назад +6

    great video. How on earth did Meyer practise these without masks?

    • @bkeniry1
      @bkeniry1 10 лет назад +3

      These are fantastic. Some of them are marvellously flamboyant and would make great stage fighting techniques. Note how the staff taking is exactly the same as one of the longsword ones

    • @AdelaideSwordAcademy
      @AdelaideSwordAcademy 10 лет назад +2

      Bryan Keniry
      yes, historical documentation for turning your back on your opponent

    • @bkeniry1
      @bkeniry1 10 лет назад +1

      Yes. Rather unusual

    • @Komaru.89
      @Komaru.89 10 лет назад +4

      Mark Holgate Bryan Keniry Fiore also has a play for dagger against the longsword that begins with the back to the opponent.

  • @shouqieazlan4756
    @shouqieazlan4756 3 года назад +1

    Silly question, but is this applicable to spears as well?

    • @irfannurhadisatria2540
      @irfannurhadisatria2540 Год назад

      Very much so! If you're unarmored/bloss, you can strike using the shaft. If you're armored, focus on beating away the weapon to get the thrust as in earlier plays

  • @joaoviegas6556
    @joaoviegas6556 9 лет назад +2

    I would like to see how a match between this and the portuguese "jogo do pau" would be like

    • @joseleandrobaptista5690
      @joseleandrobaptista5690 9 лет назад

      Não tinham hipóteses os gajos ;)

    • @CasCanGAME101
      @CasCanGAME101 7 лет назад

      Jogo do Pau definitely deserves much more attention in the HEMA community.

    • @Priestbokmei1
      @Priestbokmei1 6 лет назад

      Yes! I would, too! The JDP experts are pretty formidable. I don’t know what staff style that would stand up to them. I’d pay to see it though!

  • @difesatotale
    @difesatotale 7 лет назад

    bravi

  • @jerome96114
    @jerome96114 10 лет назад

    Where is the music from?

    • @MedievalAge9
      @MedievalAge9 10 лет назад +2

      Lacrimae Pavane

    • @MedievalAge9
      @MedievalAge9 10 лет назад

      ***** Muirland Willie.

    • @jerome96114
      @jerome96114 9 лет назад

      Thanks!

    • @kevinlobos5519
      @kevinlobos5519 8 лет назад

      i've been looking for the song but i can't find it eiter, lel

    • @kevinlobos5519
      @kevinlobos5519 8 лет назад +1

      All what i have found with "Muirland Willie" is some kind of scottish dance

  • @victorlui5955
    @victorlui5955 2 года назад

    🖤🤘👊

  • @kapteenijuhani
    @kapteenijuhani 10 лет назад +1

    Ahh...at last.

  • @chreberle
    @chreberle 10 лет назад +1

    Remember the 1980's and all the medieval fantasy shows on tv like 'Robin of Sherwood' (Amazing Series btw)? - and I thought; "ah, come on, they use staffs like japanese farmers... so unrealistic :-)" - turns out, we europeans had the same ideas about using all kinds of things as weapons.

    • @danieltaylor6281
      @danieltaylor6281 10 лет назад +6

      A staff of some form is a common peasant's weapon just about everywhere. It's one of the few weapons they could easily get hold of , and the principles of how to use one effectively depend on physics more than culture.

    • @TSEpictures
      @TSEpictures 10 лет назад +3

      *****
      True. Plus, look at the farming tools they used as well. The pitch fork, the Scythe, The pickers they used that looked like spears. They had all sorts of nasty tools to fight with.