She's such an adorable looking Camel. Just the mere sight of her makes me smile during this video but it's very unfortunate she won't run again. What she really needed was Anthracite as both the Reading and the PRR heavily used that type to great success but then again the gradient was also a little steep for the little engine too. Strasburg has a lot on their hands so we'll need to wait patiently for her new restoration. also I was shocked to hear Dave Drui in this video!
Actually when I went there back in October I went on one of the shop tours and asked what will they do with the 1187 and the tour guide said that " we plan one day to get the #4 back to operation but we dont know just when "
Wow, the Pentrex Guy... I haven't heard that voice in years... god I feel old. He does add to the Nostalgia of it! Excellent segement on little #4! One of the Strasburg's rarely regarded engines that is now getting the recognition she deserves here! :)
4:30 is that not just timed perfectly or what?! The fireman got tired of shoveling right when the narrator said it was difficult to fire the engine with bituminous coal
Always a pleasure to hear Dave Drui's narrations. I practically grew up on Pentrex videos, especially their special steam tours. So to hear his calm yet enthusiastic voice again is like a blast straight from my childhood.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada Let's not forget that doing this stuff takes time and money that is probably better spent keeping the engines they have running, at least untill the time is right. Also, they do contract work on other locomotives to make money to continue doing what they do best, the best that they can. Personally, I feel it would be better for the engine to be moved across the street to be cosmetically restored. The RRM of PA has less money, but more time. If Strasburg were to handle the movement of the engine and perhaps some funding for materials and help restoring the parts that need it, it would be much sooner. But they would need the space to put it somewhere in the Museum, so this may be what happens when/if they finally build the roundhouse they've been wanting/needing.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada It wasn't a priority because Strasburg was still young. They weren't as big of an attraction as they are now. Every project is set on a priority scale based on a budget and timeframe of completion. It wasn't high priority to have another display because they wanted engines that could RUN. Lots of preservation societies have gone under because of poor project management. Strasburg has always been smart in that sense. There are lots of things people don't consider when it comes to steam preservation. It's an ancient art now, you can't just order a new part from the manufacturer. Drawings need to be made or dug up from archives to make a casting. The casting needs to be made precisely. The need equipment to make the castings. The parts made from the castings need proper tools to be assembled, and the parts on machines and tools can break too. Most tools made for projects like this are discontinued too. And most importantly there need to be people that understand all of this and now how to do all of it. It needs to be passed on to competent people so it can continue for years to come. And it all takes time and money. Get involved with a vounteer organization, you'll see what I mean! XD
Somewhat of a sad story that ends the Strasburg engines produced by K&L. Great release guys! Maybe with this video old 1187 might get some well deserved attention. Can’t wait for the next project! Also cool to give some respect to the anthracite roads. Maybe one day we’ll get to see a crusader or black diamond. I’d need more money to commission something like that lol.
Probably not. The main reason for the wooten was that the railroad could save money by using culm, or waste Anthracite. The Reading was even using bituminous by the end of steam. It was a tiny switching Loco that had a very small steam chest. It still gained steam quickly, even with bituminous, but it didn't hold enough steam for sustained operations.
it really is sad. A happy story that tells the life of a proud and loyal little steam engine to sad end that brings a tear to the eyes of many. Even hearing the camelback's whistle felt sad to hear. it's tone almost had a romantic sound to it, like the voice of a depressed girl calling out for her long lost lover to return.
I saw 1187 in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania (across the road from Strasburg) over a decade ago. Shame to see online what it looks like now. Hopefully the old girl gets some much needed love soon.
such an amazing little locomotive. she took the term "Little Engines can do big things" literally. I dearly love this engine with a passion. Never saw her operate in my life ash she was on display when i was born in 2006. I could only imagine what it would've been like to see her run. 💙
Now that I’ve heard the full story of this engine, I can now (properly) say, she was one heck of a machine to have lasted that long. I hope she’s (at least) cosmetically restored. She needs to be seen by future generations so that they can learn about the golden age of steam.
I love the history that is told along with the video. Gets my brain *Rolling on the Rails* if ya know what I mean! I also found the whistle that the Camel Back used (As heard at 2:27 & 2:46) was a rather cute sounding.
The production quality of this promo is the best to date. The music was a very nice touch, and Dave Drui's voice was the icing on the cake! Very well done!
hearing Dave Drui's narration again made me think of both old and current narrations that I really like. He brings out and entertaining and wonder and dare say "magical" tone to telling the history of railroads and engines for when K&L brings out their new models.
this was quit the surprise like the 7312 i never knew about the 1187 or as it is as no.4 (as i've said before 90 475 and 89 were the only ones i knew about until i've seen your videos on the 7312 and of course now the 1187) it really is a splendid engine i like the music you added and i also really like you got dave drui from pentrex (of course they still are one of my favorite train video producers i have tried out others and a few others and the ones i have really liked have been steam train videos by James Parfrey and c vision productions just great videos they've made i've really liked)
OMG - that scene at 2:14 is from an actual VHS recording of her "kicking" cars in Berks County. But you added in the runby by a Reading Ramble, and a whistle salute!!! That was so awesome! I want to see so many more of these videos!!!!!
With the voice of pentrex returning as narrator in this, it feels like watching pentrex’s great American train rides, specifically its segment about the strasburg railroad. Also, I might have predicted you will make reading 1187 but I never thought that it would be that sudden.
Well, the SRC needs to get 1187 look good as new again! But once again, another surprise well done! At least we all know whenever the next surprise is due!
3:03 theres something so perfect about that scene of No. 4 traveling in the night and switching onto the strasburg line as a GG1 rolls by and that shot of it's silhouette
Wait a moment, is that an animated FIREMAN? I don’t think that that’s been done before in Trainz. Now I’ve got to wait till payday to put some money in my PayPal account to buy this little gem.
This was cool I loved it I watch this everyday and also there’s actually 4 camelbacks still existing reading 1187/4 B&O 305 New Jersey central 592 and B&O 173
From what I found out that wasn't mentioned, No. 1187 was left on display after being taken out of service for a short period at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania. The engine was left outside with the other preserved equipments of locomotives and cars closes to the turntable. It was occasionally put on the turntable, and after being left outside condemned by the time and weather it was (for unknown reasons) pull back to the yards across from the museum. That's why 1187 is left there today and has not been fixed yet. It is, however, suppose to be off limits to public viewing, except when regular service trains pass by it, and yet people made their attempts - even to this day - to actually seeing the neglected engine perched in it's siding up close without getting in trouble.
I have an idea, if an expensive one. If the boiler is junk (which it likely will be), give the engine a higher bioler pressure and a larger tender, with some increased grate area if possible.
I have a idea what if Strasberg restored her to operating condition then leased her out to other tourist lines and museums all over the east coast kinda like what’s being done with flag coal 75
so is K&L trainz not only making passenger cars but freight cars too? because he made some for PRR decapod 2-10-0 and N&W 475 also how's work going with the GTW 4-8-4 Northern?
Great locomotives as always K&L! By the way; I’ve been wanting to ask you this question for quite some time: What program do you use to make your locomotives?
Wasn't there also a problem that it was so popular the trains were extra heavy so it pounded the rails harder and caused them to split even more causing frequent derailments? I remember reading about it in one of the Strasburg railroads books
She's such an adorable looking Camel. Just the mere sight of her makes me smile during this video but it's very unfortunate she won't run again. What she really needed was Anthracite as both the Reading and the PRR heavily used that type to great success but then again the gradient was also a little steep for the little engine too. Strasburg has a lot on their hands so we'll need to wait patiently for her new restoration. also I was shocked to hear Dave Drui in this video!
Same here she always makes me feel good
I agree 100%
#4/1187 will always be the cutest little Camelback steam engine in existence.
Actually when I went there back in October I went on one of the shop tours and asked what will they do with the 1187 and the tour guide said that " we plan one day to get the #4 back to operation but we dont know just when "
I don’t know what to say but I’ll take it
2:22 two reading engines sending their hellos to each other after being separated. Priceless
Dave Drui is, no doubt at all, the voice of Pentrex. The sound of his voice is rich, meaningful and enjoyable.
Wow, the Pentrex Guy... I haven't heard that voice in years... god I feel old. He does add to the Nostalgia of it! Excellent segement on little #4! One of the Strasburg's rarely regarded engines that is now getting the recognition she deserves here! :)
4:30 is that not just timed perfectly or what?! The fireman got tired of shoveling right when the narrator said it was difficult to fire the engine with bituminous coal
@ 2:24 the two engines are communicating with each other lol.
That's what I usually think about when I witness two locomotives signaling each other.
that's how they "talk" xd
Hence, the railway series was born. :-)
Great video. It always brings back memories to hear Dave Drui's voice. Even though he isn't a railfan, I would love to meet the guy.
Always a pleasure to hear Dave Drui's narrations. I practically grew up on Pentrex videos, especially their special steam tours. So to hear his calm yet enthusiastic voice again is like a blast straight from my childhood.
I wish Strasburg would restore #4/#1187 to at least good cosmetic condition. Great video!
Steam Z if only
Kelley Anderson from Strasburg's Mechanical Department says: DON'T ASK WHEN! But just know that she isn't forgotten.
Let’s hope that it is sometime within the next few years.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada Let's not forget that doing this stuff takes time and money that is probably better spent keeping the engines they have running, at least untill the time is right. Also, they do contract work on other locomotives to make money to continue doing what they do best, the best that they can. Personally, I feel it would be better for the engine to be moved across the street to be cosmetically restored. The RRM of PA has less money, but more time. If Strasburg were to handle the movement of the engine and perhaps some funding for materials and help restoring the parts that need it, it would be much sooner. But they would need the space to put it somewhere in the Museum, so this may be what happens when/if they finally build the roundhouse they've been wanting/needing.
@Alex_OffRailsCanada It wasn't a priority because Strasburg was still young. They weren't as big of an attraction as they are now. Every project is set on a priority scale based on a budget and timeframe of completion. It wasn't high priority to have another display because they wanted engines that could RUN. Lots of preservation societies have gone under because of poor project management. Strasburg has always been smart in that sense. There are lots of things people don't consider when it comes to steam preservation. It's an ancient art now, you can't just order a new part from the manufacturer. Drawings need to be made or dug up from archives to make a casting. The casting needs to be made precisely. The need equipment to make the castings. The parts made from the castings need proper tools to be assembled, and the parts on machines and tools can break too. Most tools made for projects like this are discontinued too. And most importantly there need to be people that understand all of this and now how to do all of it. It needs to be passed on to competent people so it can continue for years to come. And it all takes time and money. Get involved with a vounteer organization, you'll see what I mean! XD
Somewhat of a sad story that ends the Strasburg engines produced by K&L. Great release guys! Maybe with this video old 1187 might get some well deserved attention. Can’t wait for the next project!
Also cool to give some respect to the anthracite roads. Maybe one day we’ll get to see a crusader or black diamond. I’d need more money to commission something like that lol.
This gives me chills, just hearing that whistle makes me happy
Yes it does railfan475
Wow!!! Jointed Rail’s already has a free Reading Camelback. This is a good competitor.
Also, thanks for commissioning the P&R President's Car.
I personally dislike Camelbacks but this. This is gold
Me too because it looks so awkward and weird looking.
Joseph Frye camelbacks are amazing
Camelbacks weren't really locomotives, they were labor safety violations on wheels.
@@josephfrye8750 I think that make them beautiful in the most hilarious way, they just duct taped a cab on the boiler and said, "Yep! This works!"
I admit I didn't like them when I was younger, but they have grown on me, seeing as they were once very common where I live.
but if Strasburg had used anthracite, like she was designed to use, wouldn't she have steamed better?
Makes sense
Probably not. The main reason for the wooten was that the railroad could save money by using culm, or waste Anthracite. The Reading was even using bituminous by the end of steam.
It was a tiny switching Loco that had a very small steam chest. It still gained steam quickly, even with bituminous, but it didn't hold enough steam for sustained operations.
She's having a whistle battle at 2:25 with the T1. Both whistles are awesome.
This kinda makes me sad, she was a gallant girl. ;-;
it really is sad. A happy story that tells the life of a proud and loyal little steam engine to sad end that brings a tear to the eyes of many. Even hearing the camelback's whistle felt sad to hear. it's tone almost had a romantic sound to it, like the voice of a depressed girl calling out for her long lost lover to return.
I saw 1187 in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania (across the road from Strasburg) over a decade ago. Shame to see online what it looks like now. Hopefully the old girl gets some much needed love soon.
Well guess what guys? ITS BEING RESTORED AS OF JULY 15’TH! :D 💖🌈🌟🎆
Fun fact: in mid 2020, she was sent to Ohio for proper restoration, there's still a chance!
such an amazing little locomotive. she took the term "Little Engines can do big things" literally. I dearly love this engine with a passion. Never saw her operate in my life ash she was on display when i was born in 2006. I could only imagine what it would've been like to see her run. 💙
The Reading Ramble is a nice touch. I've got 1187's guest appearance on LP.
Ooo
Now that I’ve heard the full story of this engine, I can now (properly) say, she was one heck of a machine to have lasted that long. I hope she’s (at least) cosmetically restored. She needs to be seen by future generations so that they can learn about the golden age of steam.
You gotta love the conversation between the two at 2:23 pure nostalgia of the steam days 🙂
Idk why, but her whistle makes my eyes water. Just hearing it brings tears of joy to my eyes. :')
Amazing effort! Thank you so much, Steve! please keep up the good works!
Cool to see my Thomas Loco in a K&L video! I am going to rework the old one to be more accurate very soon.
Cameron Malik Battle lying about what
@Cameron Malik Battle are you high...?
He was not lying
Don’t listen to them tomix your Strasburg Thomas is cool
Ya sureeeeeeeee
good job on this model k&l if 1187 gets restored i will put funds for it because this locomotive is unique
3:16 until N&W 611 did in August 2019 for its visit at Strasburg for 2 months
I love the history that is told along with the video. Gets my brain *Rolling on the Rails* if ya know what I mean! I also found the whistle that the Camel Back used (As heard at 2:27 & 2:46) was a rather cute sounding.
Hey plymouth!
-Brian Nye
The mere sight of her in steam makes me smile.
@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren Same here
The production quality of this promo is the best to date. The music was a very nice touch, and Dave Drui's voice was the icing on the cake! Very well done!
I've never a more adorable whistle, nor locomotive than the 1187
hearing Dave Drui's narration again made me think of both old and current narrations that I really like. He brings out and entertaining and wonder and dare say "magical" tone to telling the history of railroads and engines for when K&L brings out their new models.
dang back at it again with the Pentrex narrator K&L Trainz I love it
also I got the CN 3254 yesterday first K&L locomotive I would say.
*sees this in notifications* I MUST CHECK THIS OUT!!!! This Looks Amazing!! Great Job You Guys!!!
Wow! Nice job! Neat seeing the fireman shoveling in the back. Good representation of the Reading.
I remember going on the same 0-6-0 Thomas the Tank engine for a similar event that was mentioned 10 years ago!
*sighs*
Good times...
I remember when he visited greenfield village. Good times indeed.
this was quit the surprise like the 7312 i never knew about the 1187 or as it is as no.4 (as i've said before 90 475 and 89 were the only ones i knew about until i've seen your videos on the 7312 and of course now the 1187) it really is a splendid engine i like the music you added and i also really like you got dave drui from pentrex (of course they still are one of my favorite train video producers i have tried out others and a few others and the ones i have really liked have been steam train videos by James Parfrey and c vision productions just great videos they've made i've really liked)
I’ve been doing extensive research on camel back for the last 2 days and now this comes out
Amazing Promo. I liked the history on her. It taught me quite a lot about this little camelback. Great work!
Mixture of happy and sad video elements and this incredible video is what you get as an end result.
OMG - that scene at 2:14 is from an actual VHS recording of her "kicking" cars in Berks County. But you added in the runby by a Reading Ramble, and a whistle salute!!! That was so awesome! I want to see so many more of these videos!!!!!
I’m very glad that the Age of Steam of Ohio took No. 1187 off Strasburgs hands, and is now giving its restoration she needs!
The best birthday gift! Thank you guys so much for this beautiful model!!
Hi harry
4 years later, 1187 was moved to the Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugar Creek, Ohio and Cosmetially restored to look how she did in her builders photo.
With the voice of pentrex returning as narrator in this, it feels like watching pentrex’s great American train rides, specifically its segment about the strasburg railroad. Also, I might have predicted you will make reading 1187 but I never thought that it would be that sudden.
The sound of that whistle makes my day!
What an elegant video showing love for the #4 ! Thank you K&L
This is by far the best promo yet!
Well, the SRC needs to get 1187 look good as new again! But once again, another surprise well done! At least we all know whenever the next surprise is due!
She was my first camelback locomotive
3:03 theres something so perfect about that scene of No. 4 traveling in the night and switching onto the strasburg line as a GG1 rolls by and that shot of it's silhouette
Just love how you guys put your content release videos together!
Honestly. All of K&L's trains are worth paying for. They look nice, good to have and sound great. They aren't even expensive which is also a plus.
Nice little tribute to a small engine forgotten by History
Wait a moment, is that an animated FIREMAN? I don’t think that that’s been done before in Trainz. Now I’ve got to wait till payday to put some money in my PayPal account to buy this little gem.
That was a beautiful story! That almost made me cry! I hope they put her back into service again. I hope to see her back. 😭😓
Lol just saw 1187 sitting in yard on March 12th. Sad that they let it rust away
This Is Great Watching RDG/SRC #1187 as Strasburg Camelback #4 🚂🚂😊😊😊 Yay ! ! ! !
Great work
OMG that whistle is the cutest whistle I ever heard in my entire life
I always dreamed about camel back 4 coming back to life
well there use to be a funding site there but they simply said they had no use of No.4
@@PABackyardRevivals yea thts what i herd in August when i was there
@@PABackyardRevivals its a shame to let one of the last camel back locomotives in existence to just rust away.
@@giggles7104 yup I get it
@@PABackyardRevivals yea it sucks
This was cool I loved it I watch this everyday and also there’s actually 4 camelbacks still existing reading 1187/4 B&O 305 New Jersey central 592 and B&O 173
thomas looks like he has seen better days
Number 4 was on the strasburg railroad for 1524 days
Wonder if they'd sell her to a group that would restore her? Given a tender-full of anthracite coal, I imagine she'd be a different engine.
What a great story.
From what I found out that wasn't mentioned, No. 1187 was left on display after being taken out of service for a short period at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania. The engine was left outside with the other preserved equipments of locomotives and cars closes to the turntable.
It was occasionally put on the turntable, and after being left outside condemned by the time and weather it was (for unknown reasons) pull back to the yards across from the museum. That's why 1187 is left there today and has not been fixed yet.
It is, however, suppose to be off limits to public viewing, except when regular service trains pass by it, and yet people made their attempts - even to this day - to actually seeing the neglected engine perched in it's siding up close without getting in trouble.
I still think she could be used for shunting, or, 10 car freight, at the very leats
Strasburg railroad camelback #4 is getting cosmetically restored. That's great news!
Nice, they should really bring it back to operation
I have an idea, if an expensive one. If the boiler is junk (which it likely will be), give the engine a higher bioler pressure and a larger tender, with some increased grate area if possible.
I really like the whistle like it’s really cute when you can see a little locomotive
This Is Great We Love Trains We All Love Trains 🚂 🚂 🚂 😊😊😊😘😘😘💕💕💕
Very nice!
This video is so powerful... I'm holding back tears right now
boy shut yo sensitive ass up
nevermind i just cried
I have a idea what if Strasberg restored her to operating condition then leased her out to other tourist lines and museums all over the east coast kinda like what’s being done with flag coal 75
Very well put together. Nice job.
Another awsome video!
What gallant, little engine she was. I do hope we can give her a good overhaul over here in Ohio as well as a good home.
I hope the scenario for No.4 will include you driving her up to Strasburg. She is a lovely plucky locomotive is she not?
And a job well done from you guys :D
Also N&W 611 is coming to Strasburg, but how will it run and are there other mainlines that 611 can run?
Joseph Frye 611 can also run on Steamtown and Reading and Northern since 765 went their in 2015.
I love that story! Good job on that! I mean that was beautiful!
Such a great production! Thanks for putting this together!
And Strasburg Railroad, wake up!!!! Please do something with this locomotive!!!
😄👍 wonderful
WOW JUST WOW!! That’s so awesome!!
It was hard not to cry. But I wanted to. Camelback 1187 is at the age of steam roundhouse.
It's a really nice engine
How did the song go again?
We rode on the Reading when the Reading rode again...
Luckily she was sold to the age of steam Roundhouse which is much closer to where I live but it’s sad that she left Pennsylvania.
We got ourselves another little American steamer.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love it
Pentrex guy yay
I wonder if the folks over at San Juan West will be using Reading Camalback No. 4 in the future.
Nice!
so is K&L trainz not only making passenger cars but freight cars too? because he made some for PRR decapod 2-10-0 and N&W 475
also how's work going with the GTW 4-8-4 Northern?
It almost feels like I'm watching a Pentrex video....
Mission accomplished!
Finally, another Reading engine!!!!!!
It will make a fine addition to my collection (I love camel backs)
EdwardJSmithTitanic/ConrailFan76
No way these aren’t easy to collect XD
Great locomotives as always K&L!
By the way; I’ve been wanting to ask you this question for quite some time:
What program do you use to make your locomotives?
Would love to see a newer verison of Thomas
Wasn't there also a problem that it was so popular the trains were extra heavy so it pounded the rails harder and caused them to split even more causing frequent derailments? I remember reading about it in one of the Strasburg railroads books
That was the 31, the CN 0-6-0 switcher
wait, you said they found it hard to fire the engine with bituminous coal right? isn't this engine meant to use anthracite coal?
It was designed to burn anthracite, but the Reading mostly used Bituminous coal. Like a 4 to 1 ratio of bituminous to anthracite.