The Forgotten First Woman in Space
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Discover the untold story of Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman in space. Learn about her journey, the political intrigue, and her lasting impact on space exploration. Watch now!
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It was, in fact, who I thought. Lol
Mama Comrade Valentina
exactly who I first thought of too.
Are you aware, that she almost not make it, bc she was send there not prepared, being just hobby pilot, and spend most time in space passing out, poking, etc? It was huge mismanagement, but it was pretty normal in Communist countries... They just needed to do something before USA, and did not care if she dies....
I met Valentina Tereshkova at the Science Museum in London a few years ago. She was very nice.
Wow, cool! I would have been rendered speechless!
It happens to all of us time to time, we suddenly feel the irresistible urge to invade a neighboring country, probably more, because why not. It's totally OK while we keep being nice...
I'd say she belongs to a museum along with her comrades.
@@matwyder4187 oh is she pro-invasion? I didn't know that. That's really upsetting.
@RebeccaDaly
She was chosen mostly because of her communist conformism, dedication to the party and political correctness, besides the looks and "proletariat" origins. Her towing of the regime's line no matter who is in power is no big surprise, as dissent has never been tolerated by Kremin's shot-callers.
I'm confused because in school I was taught it was Tereshkova....Sally Ride was barely mentioned, I learned about her when diving into space lore after For All Mankind released
I didn't even recognize the name Sally Ride. I would have guessed that she was the person mentioned in The Commitments' song _Ride Around Sally._
And my memory is the opposite, though I feel like maybe I didn't retain the name of Sally Ride from school. Was more likely from seeing it in news stories, which makes sense. Seems like most of what I was taught was Sputnik, Yuri G, then Gemini & Apollo.
In school, I was taught about Gagarin, Shepard, then Apollo. That was about it. I'm a huge space need and have done my own research, but I admit my knowledge of the Russian side of things is spotty at best. I knew of Sally Ride, but not of Valentina.
I highly doubt people that follow Space exploration enough to even be aware of Sally, would not know that Tereshkova was the first woman in space.
it's not a forgotten story.
Yeah, like, forgotten by whom lol.
I imagine that its aimed squarely at GenX and elder Millenials. While I was aware of the existance of Tereshkova from an old Cracked article, our history classes were written during the cold war and didn't mention Tereshkova at all and even basically ignored Gagarin.
Sally is mentioned in a popular classic rock song from the 70s
Agreed!
@@TheDopekitty Sally did not fly until the 80's. The song "Mustang Sally" came out in the 60's.... WTF!
QUESTION! Dark Five on USSR Space Death's. One was a woman who, "bounce" off the Earth's atmosphere and died. Dark 5 even had an audio, radio clip of her speaking before she drifted into space. You did not mention this incident. Please clarify if Dark 5 is incorrect or your research missed this incident. Really means a lot. Thank you!
I never heard of the American one, but Tereshkova's name came to me instantly, though I have probably never even said it! What's the point of remembering any pioneers after the first ones, who did it when it was too stupidly dangerous for lack of the appropriate tech to do it safely?
Who remembers the first one to shop at Sainsbury's?
Who substituted a WW2 German V2 rocket for the Vostok at 14:40?
Lol...omg...I wondered the same same thing. Run out of stock footage, did we?
@@harryrabbit2870 they acctualy had some A-4s, but i thing they did not use it, and they even not copy it, they just made better rocket out of it (R-7, also know as Vostok, Sailut, Soyuz etc... basically only human rated Russian rocket)
It is common knowledge in india about Valentina tereshkova ,we actually dont know much about sally
This video is for Americans ;-)
The Americans were in no hurry to put a woman in space.
I love the fact that when Tereshkova landed, she lasted longer than all the American flights (at the time) combined.
I would be curious to know more about the Proceedings in the US about sexism in the space program. As i understand it, they were supposed to last 3 days, but when one of the main speakers, Geraldine Cobb came to speak on the third day, was told they’d finished and she wasn’t allowed to make her case.
It was a pointless waste of time. All the astronaut candidates had to be test pilots with engineering degrees, because they helped design the spacecraft. Cobb & Co had zilch. Jackie Cochrane herself helped put an end to the wasteful silliness of Cobb & Co because she knew that in the race to beat the Soviets to the moon, there was no time for sideshows.
When I read the comments here, it became obvious that I'd be beating a dead horse, but still: just the first sentence about "many of you" annoyed me so much that I HAVE to comment myself: there have been a number of episodes where "you" obviously referred to the US viewers, but never has it been so blatant.
There ARE viewers of this channel outside the USA, and in THIS group the number of those who (only) remember the first _woman_ in space is almost certainly (much) higher than that of those who (only) remember the first _US woman_ in space!
A very large portion of his audience is American, I think he has said somewhere around 80% on his Brain Blaze channel so it’s probably around there for his other channels too. The space junkies might know the truth but I’m willing to bet money most don’t. Simon is also very savvy in the art of clickbait and engagement.
I've known about her a long time. There's a great concept album about her by Canadian singer/songwriter Kurt Swinghammer called "Vostok 6" it was put out on Ani DiFranco's label. The band Public Service Broadcasting also has a song about her on their "Race for Space" album.
If you pay attention when people talk about Sally Ride, they always qualify it with "first American woman in space" but I guess most just assume that means FIRST when it doesn't. I'm not taking anything anyway from Sally Ride. Besides being an astronaut, she was very important on the Rogers commission and getting Feynman to the solution of what happened. She just wasn't the first woman in space.
Please let me edit the audio, Simon. I’m an audio engineer and a longtime listener/viewer. These vocals are way too harsh. The highs are way too present and your “S” and “T”s are killing our ears 😢
Why not make an example edit of the audio and post it to his subreddit? You’ll get his attention if it’s good
I’ve been saying this for years, lol. He never listens.
@@PayterX they would need the source audio for that.
i agree with OP though. this is a common "defect" in videos on Simons channels.
SSSSo TTTTrue.
100%
Pretty much anyone who followed the competing space programs knows about Tereshkova.I'd forgotten her name, admittedly, but I still knew the first woman in space was Russian.
Ha, if you played KSP you would know that because of Valentina Kerman :)
When I saw Valentina in the game I knew exactly why they created that character 😂 I told my kids, they were impressed by her general awesomeness.
I'm an American & I knew about Valentina Tereshkova already, too.
Lol, when I read the title of this video, I was like: what? You mean it wasn’t Valentina Tereshkova, like I thought all these years?? But then yes of course it was. It makes me ask myself: just exactly who forgot about her? Are they not teaching her in schools anymore? I was in American school in the 80s and 90s, they certainly were then.
I was in American K-12 schools in the 70s and 80s, in two different states, two different city hubs within each of those states (i.e. 4 separate school systems), and all but one of the schools I attended were public schools, and we certainly were NOT taught at of this at any of the schools that I attended.
Same here! Who came up with this??
@@im.empimp Let me guess. They also taught you Alan Sheppard was the first man in space, Ed White performed the first space walk, and Skylab was the first space station... F'ck..
@@6fuelinjected9 We were actually _taught_ about Gagarin, but his name basically became trivia, while we were expected to _know_ Alan Sheppard, Ed White, etc.
I'll add that both states were in The South (although, about as different as two Southern states could be) and we were taught (practically hammered into our heads) that the civil war was _only_ about states' rights and had nothing, at all, to do with slavery. (I only learned in the last few years just how concerted and _very, very deliberate_ this particular educational lie was.)
That said, my point absolutely still stands, i.e. just because _your_ school taught you something doesn't mean that it was the standard at _all,_ or even most, schools.
@@6fuelinjected9 Also, I suggest you check out xkcd's "Ten Thousand" comic. If you're unfamiliar with xkcd and you're on a non-mobile device, make sure you hover over the comic (he always adds something via the alt text).
24:24 Simon, that’s not quite right. If there weren’t more women astronauts because there weren’t women pilots in the Air Force, then it was because of sexism. Because it was sexism that prevented them from being pilots in the Air Force
And despite all these barriers, a study program was able to find 13 qualified women without much trouble. And they were awesome because they overcame barriers their whole lives.
I would normally attribute it to my History Degree, but I never once *studied* either space or Russia to this degree. But I knew it was Valentina Tereshkova.
Kinda wild Valentina is still alive and now banned from travel and trade in most western nations.
Why is she banned?
@@anthonycade9034 Well, watch the video and you will find out!
@anthonycade9034
As a lifelong Kremlin's token, she's a staunch supporter of Putin and an amplifier of his wartime propaganda as a model Z-patriot (i think she did fundrisers for war or similar). Considering her character and position, no surprise whatsoever.
@@dannydetonator all makes sense now, thank you for letting me know.
It's a common knowledge that Tereskova was the first woman in space. I've known it since like 10yo from a kid's book about space. I think she was in Russian parliament as well. Hardly forgotten.
After Neil Armstrong's historic Apollo 11 moon landing the Soviet cosmonauts invited him, Buzz Aldrin and Mike Collins to tour Star City and meet with them. There is a photo of a smiling Valentina Terreshkova pinning a medal on Neil's jacket.
not forgotten at all the science museum in london had a whole space event about her a few years ago and my kid had to do a project about her in primary school.
And not at the Space Center Houston Museum at NASA JSC which has exhibits about the Soviet space program.
Col. Jacqueline Cochran was a fully qualified test pilot, albeit lacking an engineering degree (or indeed, a degree of any sort.). She turned the job down. While she initially supported the Mercury 13 program, she eventually argued strenuously against it, ostensibly because she believed that bringing women into the space program would delay US progress in the Space Race. It is widely believed that her real motivation was fear of being upstaged by the other thirteen women.
Check out the book Fighting for Space by RUclipsr Amy Titel if you’re interested in a great story and lots of detail about Ms. Cochran and the politics behind the scenes.
I couldn't remember her name, but I remember watching a brief TV interview of her on CBS or NBC at age 7. It couldn't have been ABC because the local ABC station was UHF and our TV only had a VHF tuner.
Simon...first rule of making your point is don't assume what your audience thinks and knows..
Indeed..
It's called a hook
Simon is very savvy in the art of clickbait and engagement. Congratulations on falling for it. Also, a very large part of his audience are American. The space junkies may know this but I’m willing to bet money most don’t.
Agreed! Let’s move on.
Yes, I never forgot Valentina Tereshkova. But this excellent vid gave me so much of the full story. I had no idea she had gone into politics. And still active at 87! When Trump's a ranting cabbage at 'only' 78!
Cheers
And here I thought you had information on some forgotten woman who went up before Valentina ... but I'm a bit of a space nut and am used to being surprised at what most people don't know.
i like it when to smart for their own good RUclipsrs assume what ppl know or dont
A very large portion of Simon’s channel’s audiences are American. The space junkies might know the real answer but I’m willing to bet money that most don’t. Simon is also savvy in the art of clickbait and garnering engagement.
I mean it's a script written by someone else. Simon doesn't do much more than being a face. That's like being disappointed that Alex Trebek wasn't a genius for hosting Jeopardy...
I met Sally Ride once at Kilgore College in Kilgore Texas. She knew my chemistry professor. She gave a great talk in the Van Cliburn auditorium with a lot of photos of her space flights. Nothing to do with the first woman in space, but it was pretty cool getting to meet her.
I knew it wasn't Sally Ride. 😂
Yuri Gagarin insisted on an open casket funeral, knowing his mission would fail.
Very informative and very touching.
If US education doesn't provide the knowledge of who Tereshkova is, it doesn't mean she is forgotten by the world.
First artificial satellite, first animal in space, first man in space, first woman, first black man... all Soviet. Yet, somehow, US won the space race.
I learned about Tereshkova in a US Public Highschool during the 90s. No idea where the author of this essay is from, but apparently British-Canadian Simon Whistler didn't know this either. Otherwise, I thought he would have called it out before reading the script? Unless he either doesn't pay attention to what he actually reads, or didn't think it was important enough to delay the video production.
After all - the more dissenting comments there are in the discussion section the more its seen as user engagement and drives the video even further up in the suggestions algorithm.
In either case, I assure you that US education - even the general public one - provides this knowledge. And in my memory and experience it covered this story in a much more positive light than this video essay did. maybe the author has a stick up their s? 😏
@@RandomDeforge Well said..
American here (homeschooled through HS) - I was taught Sally Ride was the first American woman, and Valentina was the first woman ever into space.
I don't know about the general public, but most people interested in space know that the first man and woman in space were both soviet.
Yep, weird, isn't it?
It's like todays 1500m mens final. You can lead for 1450 m... But the person that crosses the finish line at 1500 m wins. In this case the space race for the moon and whether you like it or not the US won.
I'll admit, I'm an avid follower of space news, but I didn't know about Tereshkova. I knew about Gagarin because of school, but we didn't learn about the first women in space. I knew of Sally Ride because she was behind the inspiration behind Ryder, the protagonist of Mass Effect Andromeda, to compliment Allan Shepard's inspiration for Shepard in the original trilogy. I knew she was the first American woman in space, basically.
Being an average person who doesn't follow the space program this video is fascinating. Just watched the one about Gagarin and glad this one popped up! That was the first I heard of her. Very cool.
So, it was exactly who I thought it was.
You've got to be kidding me. Everyone knows Valentina Tereshkova was the first woman in space. Even Kerbal Space Program named one of the core Kerbals after her!
I thought it was the Mother of Special Forces called "The Boss" aka The Joy
Great and educational video, also fair and balanced. I'm not one to usually give the Russians much credit, but in their early space endeavors they earned it. Thank you.
My daughter's flying instructor was Astronaut Wally Funk. Wally is a truly amazing woman who was a pioneering woman in the US Space Program.
I knew about the Soviets sending a woman into to space much earlier but just couldn't remember her name or the exact details.
28:28 That Assassin looks furious...
I knew the answer to this because of Mythical Kitchen. Emily HILARIOUSLY played Valentina in an episode of Meals of History! Sally Ride is still the first queer/lesbian in space, well as far as we know…
Answer to pop quiz. Valentina Tereshkova. Everyone knows that. They even named a Kerbal after her.
Fighting for Space is a fantastic book by the RUclipsr (Amy Titel) who runs The vintage Space RUclips channel.
It’s about the US female astronaut program and two women pilots, Jackie Cochran and Jerrie Cobb who tried to make female astronauts a priority. It’s very well written, but unfortunately didn’t make a splash when it came out in February 2020 - all promotion had to be cancelled due to Covid.
4.8 stars on that large book and everything else site - anyone interested in the subject matter of this video should check it out (and The vintage space RUclips channel)
Superb presentation. Thanks Simon xxx
Awe! Its nice when forgotten or underplayed people get their 32 minutes with Whistleboi! Way to go russian lady!
Jerrie Cobb had a wonderful book about being part of the Gemini 13.
I've been to the tiny village she was born in. There's a little museum to her there. It's little more than a house but has a descent module and some space suits, along with photos and models and suchlike.
Worth a visit next time you're in Yaroslavl 😂
I learned about her because of Kerbal Space Program
In the 23min mark when Simon says "registry office" he means something like a county clerk branch office where you file for a marriage license. These offices have a JP court to officiate a marriage. I spent a quite a lot of time in County Clerk offices as my parents went for a No Will, No Probate death plan. Dealing with bankers and county clerks is way easier than probate court and much cheaper.
Tarashkova is the reason why you get Valentina in KSP.
One might also say that the first woman in space was the Rev. Dr. Jeannette Piccard, pilot of the Century of Progress into the stratosphere in the 1930s.
The German and Dutch immigrants in Pennsylvania are part of the reason my Scotts ancestors ended up here. They were recruited to form a buffer between the Pennsylvania farmers and the Native Americans. They'd been fighting the Irish for land, so it was natural to entice them over here with the promise of land. They clashed with the religious groups though because of their drinking and rowdyness, so they moved further into the frontier. My scotts ancestors, along with some Germans that had intermarried, ended up in Western NC by the late 1700s.
The Boss?
This reminds me of the film The Commitments
Most American know about Sally ride yes. But I haven’t heard of any person who’s a space nerd that doesn’t know about Valentina tersheshokva
I would think that my fellow space nerds would know that the first woman in space was really Tereshkova and not Sally Ride who was the first American woman. From what I’ve read, the Russians have placed women in various roles dominated by men in a time when women were largely never even considered as a possibility. Female snipers served in wars in the early twentieth century and they were seen as being more deadly and accurate than their male counterparts. From a physical standpoint, women are very capable of performing difficult tasks because the female body transmits information across the nervous system significantly faster than men. We feel physical signals nearly twice as fast and also significantly more intensely. However we also have a much higher threshold for pain due to our ability to carry and deliver children.
What a surprise, like most other commenters I've never even heard of Sally whatever her name was! I know I've always been into space stuff, but I thought almost everyone knew that it was Valentina Tereshkova?!
Sally Ride is more famous because she's mentioned in the song "Mustang Sally"
You underestimate a lot of people saying they think it’s Sally Ride. Do we think the first astronaut was John Glenn? Or Neil Armstrong?
Mrs. Werner Zeigler knew it was Valentina . . .
I grew up during and well remember the early years of the "space race". I knew Sally Ride was not the first woman in space. Anybody who does not know about Valentina Tereshkova does not deserve to call themself a space enthusiast.
Kerbal players know this.
First Astronette
😂😂😂
Valentina Tereshkova
She is NOT fogotten among us Kerbal space program players.
Not Ellen Louise Ripley?! 🙀
I actually knew it was a Russian woman and I suspect did many people old enough to remember the space race of the 1960s.
I didn't forget.
Interesting video as always, and maybe its just my hearing being overly sensitive in some regard, but those s sounds are painful (and I do mean that literally) Had to turn it way down to get through it and it was still like someone taking a cheese grater to my eardrums.
Everybody with 4th grade education knows it is Valentina Tereshkova.
An excellent documentary series “Chasing the Moon” with a run time of ~6 hours in total went into some detail on Tereshkova. Not nearly enough. Still excellent though. What would be cool is a video that covers missed “firsts” in US space flight. I’m thinking Wally Funk, Ed Dwight. Those two who did eventually go to space 60 or so years later with Blue Origin.
Ride Sally Ride
Look, I know the hook was not great (assuming the audience's ignorance) but the detail provided in the video was great. I think people need to be less sensitive and more patient.
It's exactly who I thought it was. Who's Sally Ride again?
Ellen Ripley RIP
The Soviets did most of the space firsts, just not that first on the moon so no, not surprised at all.
First space dog too btw.
Alan Shepard's flight was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to Yuri Gagarin orbit of the earth. The US's NASA was caught with its knickers down around their ankles and need to make a quick response, so up went Shepard and the back down he came, didn't even get a chance to orbit, that happen with the third Mercury mission flown by John Glenn who did three orbits.
Ppl, Simon doesn't own this channel. Surprising, i know, but he just reads for this one. Davin owns this one. Direct all complaints to him. The team is entirely different for tifo.
lol, I literally learned about this woman because I watch mythical kitchen's meals of history. Shocking that they actually taught me something, I know.
Yeah, I knew that. A big reason the Russians sent the first woman into space is because less than two decades prior the women had been fighting the Nazis alongside the men, while in the USA, women were still expected to be homemakers and secretaries.
Yay Simon is back. Couldn't watch the last video.
Tereshkova's flight strikes me as simply under trained for all contingencies and not an inept individual; though I suspect she glossed over a few of her lacking capabilities that would have been resolved had she received lengthy training. As this video states, she was all the Soviet Union needed for a propaganda coup.
Ride Sally ride upon your mystery ship. Into a world that others might have missed.
Simon: "HA!!........A WOMAN!!" 😆
GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA!!
Everyone knows it was The Boss
Tereshkova is very known in Russia...
I remember Valentina Tereshkova. If I'm not mistaken, she later married another cosmonaut, the first human in space, Yuri Gagarin.
She did not marry Gagarin, though his wife's name was also Valentina.
@@danielpope6498 Perhaps that's where I erred.
My ears are crying. PLEASE, fix the audio on the S's.😢
She's the real thing.
Wasn’t there one ahead of her that burned up coming down?
Teriscova's rocket looked like a V2 from
WWII?😅
So I guess everyone in these comments are just smarter than me.
What do you mean - forgotten?
The next documentary should be about the first woman scattered in our atmosphere because of NASA.
There have been several.
The Boss 😭7
I actually did know her name, somehow.