Review Gaggia Magenta Prestige Super Automatic Espresso Machine
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2021
- Review of the Gaggia Magenta Prestige. This slim performer makes it easy to enjoy cafe favorites in your home. Key capabilities and features make it an excellent value compared to machines from other manufacturers. Using a simple yet powerful touchscreen interface, whole beans ground fresh and a detachable milk carafe it's easy to make cafe quality favorites including espresso, coffee, cappuccino, latte macchiato, Americano, espresso lungo, cafe au lait, flat white, ristretto, cafe cortado and plain frothed milk.
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after looking at a lot of brands, this looks like just the coffee machine I need, looks great.
Been using the Magenta Prestige now for a little over 3 months. Just LOVE it ! After work a Flat White and sometimes an Americano. Those are the 2 types of coffee I use most. Right now with coffee beans I took with me from the Vera Cruz area in Mexico. Also with some beans from a small local bean roaster (especially like his Peru beans) Learning more and more about coffee and enjoying it even more that way. Thanks again to WLL for their insights and explaining about the Magenta.
Hi Bert, Thanks for the report and sharing info on your favorite beans!
Finally got my Gaggia Magenta Prestige yesterday (Was delayed in Italy for a week) Easy set-up (thanks to the WLL video's) First few drinks were rather bad, so were the pucks. But after 7 to 8 tries the machine started doing great ! Specially love the Cortado, the Flatwhite and the Americano. Thanks again WLL and Marc for these great video's and helping me make the decision to buy this great machine !
Hi Bert, You are welcome and thank you for the comment sharing your Magenta love! Yes, some users get a little worried with the first extractions being weak. It's just the machine adjusting to the coffee and dose you are using. Once it has a baseline they get so much better. Our favorite drinks are similar although the Americano tops my list.
Marc
Another great video, cheers for your detailed information to help me buy the Gaggia magenta prestige. Marc🇬🇧
So happy with our Cadorna from Whole Latte Love!
Hey VB6000, Thanks for the feedback and your patronage! I love the Cadorna as well. It's been one of our daily drivers in the studio for about 7 months now. At least 2 Americanos daily for me and an Americano Red Eye every once in awhile on those long days! The Magenta is a very similar machine but without the 4 user profiles.
Marc
Great review Marc thanks
Hey WJ, thanks appreciate!
Marc
Looks really similar to my Cadorna. Great video as always.
Thank you for explaining how a flat white is done. I don't have the short cut on my Cadorna milk but it's easy to figure out.
Hi Elena, Thanks for the comment. Yes, easy to do on the Cadorna Milk!
Marc
Can you tell me how you do the flat white on the Cadorna Milk? I’m thinking of purchasing that model but was a little bummed it didn’t include a flat white preset! Thanks!
Great to see a review that actually shows the heat of the drink. I’m drawn between this and the Delonghi Dinamica Plus. Similar prices, but with the latter I haven’t found any reviews that talks about the heat or brew sequence
Glad it was helpful!
Is it wrong to go through every drink variation on your first Morning with it?!!!!! Appreciate the video on operations and settings. Better than the Gaggia corporate video. Got my machine from you yesterday and so far loving it. Really like your enthusiasm for great coffee and your comparison videos really helped me decide on the Magenta Prestige. Decided to buy a machine after getting spoiled at a friends house who has a $6K Miele machine. The Magenta hit the perfect spot between cost and convenience for me. Truly a great Value. Thanks for the fast delivery and all the videos.
Hi Todd, Not wrong at all! Just be careful with all the caffeine! Thanks for sharing your initial thoughts, love and of course your patronage. Happy to hear the Magenta hit the sweet spot for you. I read your about. Man, you've had an interesting and wild ride! Best wishes for your future treatment. I've had my own brush with the big C.
Marc
Thanks for the in-depth review Marc! I’m in the market for a fully automatic machine and have been watching a lot of your reviews. I was wondering which machine in your opinion makes the strongest and best tasting espresso?
Hi Marina, There are so many choices! For a good strong espresso go with a machine that does 2 grind cycles automatically when you select a double espresso. All Gaggia machines do that. There are a couple more recent Jura machines that do it but they have high price tags. I really like the Gaggia Cadorna which uses up to a 22g coffee dose when making a double. The Cadorna is our daily driver in the office. The Magenta does the same dose I just prefer the UI and build of the Cadorna. It's also good if the machine will be used by more than one person as it has user profiles allowing for storage of 4 custom versions of each drink. I also appreciate the slide out front access to the water reservoir. Whatever machine you get if you like it strong be sure and set the grinder to its finest setting, coffee strength to highest setting and temperature to high. From there program a single espresso to produce about 1oz/30ml liquid volume. When you make a double you'll get a 2oz/60ml espresso made from 22g of ground coffee. If that's too strong you can back off on coffee strength. If you don't do milk drinks very often or are okay with manual milk frothing the Cadorna Barista Plus is a good option: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-plus
Hope that helps!
Marc
Love my Jura E8 but this looks like another good machine - easy to use
Hey Bruce, Thanks for the comment. It is easy!
Marc
Thanks Marc!!!
Hey AA, You are welcome!
Marc
Great vid Marc. I’ve searched high and low to try and find out the ‘back to back’ timing of making milk drinks. ie when we have visitors and we want to make say 4 milk based coffee drinks back to back, how long would it take for each drink would you think?
I bought this machine today and only one downside is it's very noisy when froth milk. Other than that pretty happy. Good taste.
Hi KJ, Thanks for your feedback!
What a sweet machine!!
Hey Mg, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Should I choose this one over saeco xelsis? I’m interested in one who uses more coffee for every cup…
Hi Marc! I just purchased this, and was curious with Espresso beverages what grind setting you recommend? I am using Lavazza Super Crema and WLL Crema Wave beans.
Does this have profiles at all, of not does that mean that you have to change settings everytime after someone else uses it?
Hey guys! Appreciate the review and overview. Can the milk carafe use milk alternatives like oat milk, almond milk, etc.?
Hey L, Thanks for the comment and question. Yes the machine can use alterantive milks. Here's a video where we use a bunch of non-diary milks in this type of machine. Some do better than others: ruclips.net/video/jO9l7oENq1Q/видео.html
Marc
Great video thank you. What do you think is the best fully automatic machine for home use including milk carafe please?
Hi Anna, You are welcome for the video. Answer depends on what is important to you. Is it price, features, drink selection, ease of maintenance? I can say for the most part all fully automatic machines brew in a similar fashion and have similar reliability. Choose a machine based on the features that are important to you.
Great videos mate!
Please advise, is there a limit on the daily production of beverages?
Hey u, Thanks for the comment. No spec for daily limit but it's intended as a home use machine.
Hello Marc. I am really thorn between gaggia magenta prestige and jura E6. Which one should I get?
Hi Marc, this is a great piece and very informative. I’m torn between this and the cadorna prestige machine. I like the compact nature of the magenta but prefer the extra choice of drinks and the front loading water tank on the cadorna. I’d like to make a latte on the go in the morning for my drive to work, so I think ultimately it may be the drink size that swings it for me. What is the largest latte one can make on each machine? Thanks
Hey p m, The Cadorna Prestige has XL Latte Macchiato and Cappuccino on the menu. The XL Latte Macchiato can be programed to to use up to 11.5oz frothed milk and 3oz of espresso for total of 14.5oz drink. Max size for Latte Macchiato on the Magenta is 12.4oz using 10.1oz milk and 2.3oz espresso. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage very helpful, thankyou!
Hey
Thank you so much for the amazing crabs.
I am confused between magenta prestige and cadorna milk. It is very important for me to have a high temperature and a foam that is not too airy. I would appreciate advice
Hi, you are welcome and thanks for the question. Coffee temps out of those machines are the same. If looking for extra hot milk froth understand that automatic machines do milk to ~120-140F. This is the temperature where milk has best flavor due to heating and where a well trained barista froths milk to. I understand some like the milk hotter. If that's the case for you I suggest a machine with a manual wand frothing option. On those you can make as hot as you like and create a very fine micro-foam. Automatic frothing typically produces an airier traditional cappuccino density. Here's a Gaggia Cadorna with manual steam wand: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-barista-plus-automatic-espresso-machine-dark-chocolate-straight-grain
Hi Marc. Thanks for the detailed review. With milk drinks, is it possible to make it with a double shot of espresso (grind twice, brew twice), but the same amount of milk/froth? I’m afraid the single dose from a compact super auto may not be strong enough for my taste.
Hi Bernard you are welcome and thanks for your question. It is possible to make with a double shot. With the Flat white that's automatic - you'll get 2 grind cycles yeilding a ground coffee dose of up to 23 grams. For other drinks you can always add a shot manually or do milk froth separately and do a double shot before or after the milk is dispensed.
Marc
Hi team - thank you for the video! I took out my brew unit to wash it off. There's yellow gunk here and there. Is that manufacturer grease? Or excess coffee residue? I only find the grease/gunk around specific joints/areas. Thanks!
Hi Y, You're welcome! Yes, the "gunk" is a food safe grease applied by the manufacturer for lubrication of the brew unit. Do not wash off or remove the grease. For cleaning take the brew unit out about 1x/week and rinse at sink with room temp water under faucet. Allow to dry and re-insert in machine. Yellow discoloration is some coffee residue in the grease which is okay. We have this video which shows how to deep clean/rebuild the brew unit in which the grease gets re-applied: ruclips.net/video/HGmfnGN_JQA/видео.html
Video demonstrates using brew unit from a Gaggia Brera but procedure is essentially the same for the Magenta's
Marc
I bought my Magenta Prestige yesterday. It's great! But I think that the espresso is too cold even in the highest temperature setting. I have measured the temperature of the hot water and it shows around of 70 degrees in Celsius! Is this normal?!
Thanks Marc! I’ve been looking forwards to this one ! I may wait a little longer for the Cadorna comparison before I make the final decision between the two.
If you could only get the professional steam wand on the Magenta versus a metal Panarello on the Cadorna, do you think that would make you sway for the Magenta? Or is the size/loading/buttons/4 programs enough to keep the Cadorna on top?
Cheers!
Hey Andrew, You're welcome! Guessing you're outside of the North America? Through special arrangement with Gaggia our Cadorna Barista Plus in North America has the manual/professional style steam wand. It's a little bit longer than the wand on the Magenta. I like the longer wand for better reach into the pitcher. Panarello wands are good for those who do mostly traditional style airier cappuccino frothing or don't want to learn frothing techniques. They are not good for frothing to super fine microfoam for latte art. If choosing between manual wand and Panarello I'd go with the manual as I appreciate the finer frothing capabilities. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks again Marc! Indeed, I’m in the UK and even the UK Gaggia distributor can’t get the Cadorna Barista Plus otherwise it would be a no brainer! I’m with you. I think even though the Magenta isn’t as good as the Cadorna in a few areas, the steam wand makes up for it here.
Hello! I had the Titanium and absolutely loved it! I primarily drink lattes. I have been trying to decide which Gaggia would be best tkk ok purchase for some time now. Can you please help and let me know which Gaggia machine you would recommend? Do you recommend the Magenta?
Hi ab, My favorite is the new version of Gaggia Accademia. It's their top of the line machine and makes the best espresso I've ever had from a bean to cup machine. Super easy milk drinks, programmable milk froth density, huge drink selection, fantastic touch-screen interface, all metal case and lux glass front panel. Next in line is the Cadrona Prestige then the Magenta. Check out the new Accademia in this video: ruclips.net/video/jZWS38_Jge4/видео.html
Hey guys I’m new to your page but have subscribed to stay connected. I’m looking to buy the Gaggia Magenta Prestige as a Christmas present for my husband and I. but I am conflicted because of the lack of customer reviews online, For instance Amazon has terrible reviews on the customer service on Gaggia (not you guys ) just on the company itself, claiming the only way to repair is by sending to NY. Just curious as to your guys warranty and weather an extended warranty is available for purchase. I have searched other stores that carry this machine online and almost zero to no customer reviews.
Thank you and Great contingent, I’m really enjoying all your videos
Hi YH, Thanks for subscribing! If you have not been there already, here's a link to the machione on are website. 35 reviews there: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-magenta-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine
Warranty on the machine is 2 years parts and labor through us. No extended warranties are available. We are the Gaggia Certified repair center and located in NY. Gotta take what you read on Amazon with a grain of salt. Satisfied customers are much less likely to leave a review. These machines are highly reliable so long as you do the basic maintenance. We get regular reports of well in excess of 10,000 brew cycles with nothing more than routine maintenance. It's like any product with moving parts and liquids involved - ignore taking care of the product and you're likely to have trouble at some point. Hope that helps!
Thank you so much for your informative videos. I have looked at both this and the Cadorna Prestige. Can you tell me the main difference apart from size? Thanks
Hi Bea. You are welcome! Cadorna Prestige has: Slide out front access to water reservoir, ability to save up to 4 versions of each drink in user profiles, upgraded external case materials, nicer user interface with larger screen and soft touch buttons. Hope that helps. Also, here's a video with side by side comparison of Magenta and Cadorna models: ruclips.net/video/PnKCkGjyr-I/видео.html
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Brilliant. Just watched it. Exactly what I needed to make the decision. Thanks heaps.
@@beajay1179 You're most welcome!
Love this machine! Is it ok to use PEETS DARK ROAST ? Not Extra Dark just Dark?
Hi DN, thanks for sharing the love! The dark roast should be fine so long as the beans don't have more than 25% coverage with visible shiny surface oils.
Can you adjust the amount of foam when making a milk drink. Also does this machine add air to the crema like some machines. Thanks
Hi aw, Thanks for the question. The amount of frothed milk can be programmed. If you're referring to the density of the milk foam, then that is not adjustable. The machine does not add air to the crema. Internally the brewing process is similar to semi-automatic machines using a portafilter.
Thanks Marc. I just purchased the Magenta Gaggia without the milk karate . When you showed the grinder, mine looks different. It just has the know to turn, but when I tried to change the grinder during grinding process (as per the instructions, it doesn't move. Can you please show us how to change the grinder. thanks
Hi KS, Congrats on your new machine! Not sure why it looks different but think the solution is simple - just press down while turning the grind size adjustment knob. Like you were opening one of the child proof pill bottles. Hope that does the trick!
Marc
Hi Marc, I bought my magenta prestige thanks to your review! My magenta emmits a lot of heat from the right side while doing cappucino - is this ok, or something is wrong?
Hey Nalm, That is normal including seeing a bit of steam come from the machine during certain portions of the milk prep cycle.
Marc
Hi Marc, does this machine make good iced coffee? Great video! Thanks for the feedback.
Hi Sam, Thanks for the comment and question. It should make good iced coffee. You have options like making an Americano over ice where you could decrease the amount of water added to the espresso to make up for melting of ice. Or you could make a stronger coffee to do the same.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc! Would you recommend this machine, Magenta Prestige or the Delonghi Dominica if you make iced coffee. Are they comparable machines? Thank you!
I've had my machine 3+ months and I love it. It would be great if there was some kind of forum to exchange brewing ideas, but this will have to do. Based on Marc's suggestion, I leave the grind set to finest and Aroma to strongest for everything. I (think I've) learned a few tips from speaking with customer service which I'll share. The Aroma setting only adjusts the grinding time. It doesn't adjust to the Volume of espresso you choose or the hardness of the beans you are using. In other words, it grinds for a set number of seconds depending on how many "Beans" you set it for. So, whether you set it for 40ml of espresso or 80ml, it uses the same amount of coffee, which means that the 80ml espresso is just adding more water. Which brings me to my question. I had been setting my cappuccino to 70ml of espresso and 140ml milk. I like the total quantity, but it tastes a little thin. Has anyone cracked the code for cappuccino on a Magenta? Meanwhile, one more tip. The first drops of milk froth are actually water. I put a spoon under the milk spout just as the milk starts to flow. I capture about 1/2 tsp of water and pull it away. Not a huge deal, but it lessens the dilution.
Hi MDLB, Thanks for your detailed comment and question as well as sharing your love after using the Magenta for 3 months. The cappuccino you are making is relatively large. Your 70ml of espresso is being made from a coffee dose of ~11.5g at max strength setting. That's a light dose for 70ml volume. Couple ideas... 1. Keep your milk at 140ml and reduce your your espresso to 35ml. Make that and then do another max strength espresso of 35ml over the top. 2. If you like a coffee forward milk drink try the flat white. When you make a flat white the machine will do 2 grind cycles automatically for more espresso flavor. The flat white flips the prep order so it does the 2 espresso first then the milk. In the flat white the espresso and milk mix more than in the cappuccino. It's personal preference of course but the mouthfeel of the flat white is very enjoyable and coffee flavor will be more pronounced.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks, Marc. Yeah, I had already stopped the 70ml cappuccino for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I went back to the default cappuccino setting of 40/120. It's better, but not enough CAFFEINE or enough total volume. On the other hand, 23g of coffee is a lot in the afternoon. So I'm going to try a flat white with 140ml of milk, but drop down one Bean in the Aroma setting and 2x35ml. If I update this at 3 AM, you'll know I overcaffeinated.
Hi Marc,
Thanks for another great review (as always!). I bought a couple of superautomatics from WLL over the years, but this time, 2 weeks ago, I got the Philips 5400 - not from you though since you don't carry the Philips machines.
I wonder if there is any reason to go with the Magenta for $500 more vs the 5400 - a 50% higher price tag. The features are very similar, and each machine has a few features the other one doesn't. And given the fact that they share many of the components since Philips owns Gaggia, I assume the quality is very similar.
PS - Anyone knows of a place that is interested in buying old superautomatic machines that require some fixing....? (Jura F7, Gaggia Brera)
Hi DV, You are welcome for the video and thank you for your patronage in the past. They are similar in some many respects and you are correct with the ownership. One key difference - all Gaggia machines are made in Italy. That's not the case with Phillips branded products.
@@Wholelattelovepage The 5400 is made in, or rather assembled in, Romania. I hope that wouldn't make a difference since they most likely just receive the components from elsewhere and put them together....
I really appreciate the fact that you respond to comments and provide such a wealth of information about the machines and how to take care of them. That's the reason why I try to buy all my machines, coffee, and supplies from you guys whenever I can!
How does this compare to the Cordona Prestige?
Hello Marc. I am confused on the difference between the Gaggia Cadorna vs Magenta line of espresso machines? Thanks.
Hi Craig, Thanks for the question. A main difference is multi-user programming on the Cadorna line. One can store 4 versions of each drink on the Cadorna. Colorm screens are similar but the Cadorna has physical buttons instead of the capacitive touch buttons on the Magenta. Water and used coffee drawer pulls out from the font of the Cadorna and beans go up top. In Magneta water and beans load from top and used coffee drawer comes out the front with the drip tray. Hope that helps!
Marc
Hey, Marc! I'm looking to purchase my first Super Automatic Machine, and am torn between a few. This one is likely my top choice, but I've been getting a lot of ads fed to me for the Terra Kaffe and Spinn. I can't seem to find you guys talking about either of those via videos, but wasn't sure if you/the team had any insight.
Hi JC, The Magenta is a good choice if it matches with the features you want. Gaggia is a trusted name making making super-automatic machines for many years. Unfortunately I have no access to or experience with the other manufacturers you mentioned.
Marc
Nice review, I'm interested in this machine. Any idea how much coffee is used in making each espresso? I assume a min - max depending upon strength selected.
Hey Mark, Thanks for the comment and question. Coffee dose range is 6.5 - 11.5g per brew cycle. So if you choose to make a double espresso range is 13-23g. You are correct dose weight is determined by coffee strength setting. Here's a link to full specs of the Magenta Prestige: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-magenta-prestige-super-automatic-espresso-machine#product-specs
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc that's very helpful.
Love the channel. What do you guys recommend as a great starter setup? I'm thinking breville bambino plus 1zpresso jmax to get my feet wet. Then I can upgrade the bambino down the line, and the grinder further down the line. Would that be a decent starting point?
Hi Cam, Well... Not familiar with that grinder. But if me I'd go Gaggia Classic Pro. Bambino is a pressurized basket appliance. The Classic Pro is a true machine that'll last a very long time and is easy to service for a home user if needed. If the Bambino fails it's not very user fixable and sending it out for repair generally cost more than residual value. But the big thing is the Classic Pro can grow with you. It has a true 58mm commercial size/weight portafilter. It comes with both a pressurized and non-pressuirzed filter baskets. So you can start out with a not so great or no grinder at all with the pressurized baskets. Then turn your game up with a decent grinder and the non-pressurized basket.
@@Wholelattelovepage I've actually changed my mind and decided to get a breville dual boiler. Skip straight to a high end machine. The Gaggia seems fine if you want to spend a ton of money and time modding it, but honestly it's not begginer friendly at all, Temps can range 30 degrees or more without a pid, and the opv isn't 9 bars. Not to mention is a pretty ugly box looking thing to put in a kitchen. Preciate the reply
I know ceramic burr grinders are usually on the lower end of the spectrum due to not having near the longevity of steel burrs, is there a way to replace these ceramic burr? How often do they need to be replaced if so? And how much would this cost?
Hi DDX, Actually Ceramics stay sharper longer than steel burrs so long as they do not encounter foreign objects like small stones. I've ground many hundreds of kilos of coffee through machines and have only once run into a small stone - it's very rare. Should you have a ceramic burr go bad you just replace the whole grinder. The entire grinder assembly part runs about $70.
Marc
Hi Mark I am between the Cadorna Milk and the Magenta Prestige. The most important aspect is the time it takes to make milk based drinks on both o these machines. Do you know how long it takes for a cappuccino?
Hi MA, Thanks for the question. Time to make milk drinks on the machines is essentially the same. Actual time depends on variables like finished drink size. Cappuccino at factory settings took one minute twenty-six seconds start to finish on the Cadorna. Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Marc! thanks for this video! how is the coffee quality compared to a Jura E8?
You are welcome and thanks for the question. Espresso quality is nearly identical between the machines. Personally, I prefer the flexibility of the true Americano on the Magenta Prestige to the long coffees on the E8. One can make an Americano on the E8 but it's a two step process done by pulling a shot then manually adding hot water from the machine. Also like that the Magenta runs 2 grind cycles when making two coffees at a time. The E8 just passes more water through the ground coffee.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you very much for your advice 💪
Hey I'm just wondering, is the startup time long on these types of machines? How long after I wake up in the morning until I can start drinking my coffee??
Hi WG, Thanks for the question. Super-automatic machines like The Magenta Prestige are ready to brew in about a minute after turn on. You can be drinking a cup from whole beans ground fresh in bout 2 minutes!
Great review. The Magenta Prestige seems like a great buy, but here, in The Netherlands, I cannot find any reviews on how they keep up after using this particular machine for longer then a year or so. Got any inside on that ? Thanks very much and keep up these great reviews. Greetings from The Netherlands .
Hi BG, Thanks for the kind comment and question. We get regular reports of >15,000 brew cycles with nothing more than routine maintenance. Most important is using quality water to prevent limescale deposits and descaling machines when alerted to do so. We suggest keeping the brew unit clean with a weekly rinse at sink with room temp tap water and a deeper cleaning and lubrication of the brew unit every 6-12 months depending on usage level. Take care of these machines and they will take care of you for years!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for the tips Marc. And keep up these great reviews. We'll let you know how we're doin' with the Gaggia.
Does the unit work without the filter? If not, how long does the filter last or how many drink can be serve per filter?
Hi ml, Yes, you can use the machine without the filter but will need to descale more frequently. Filter life depends on source water hardness. The harder your water the sooner you need to replace. For water with mid-range hardness filter capacity is 400-600 cups.
I am trying to decide between Philips 5400 Lattego, Gaggia Magenta Prestige and DeLonghi Dinamica LatteCrema. What are the main differences between these three? I see whole latte live doesn’t have any philips machines. Why?
Have you made a decision? If so, what did you decide on? You're exactly where i am at.
Iv been looking at the philips also
Same here with Philips. Just today explored this Gaggia
Hey Marc hope u are well. How does the milk froth compete with miele units?
I know miele units make a very micro froth. So very very smooth. How does the magenta prestige compare?
Also is it very loud? Will it wake up my house at 5 in the morning? Via grinding or anything else?
Hi Jacob, I am well and thanks for asking. Hope you are too! The milk froth is very nice on this machine. It's not as fine as milk manually frothed by someone with barista skills but quite good and similar to that from other decent auto-frothing machines. One thing that makes a big difference in mouthfeel/apparent froth quality is the ability to flip the milk prep order to be correct for the drink being made. Many machines always do the mik prep first. The Magenta Prestige does that for a cappuccino or Macchiato but flips to espresso first as needed for drinks like a flat white.
I would not call the machine loud but it does make noise when grinding and brewing. Unlikely it would wake up the house unless they're in the same room. I have a similar machine at home which I use in the main floor kitchen at 4:30am while the wife is sleeping upstairs about 30 feet away behind a closed door and no noise complaints.
Marc
How do you eliminate the automatic rinsing cycle every time that you switch on the machine after stand-by ?
Hi GC, Thanks for the question. The rinse cannot be turned off. It's done to keep the machine clean and operating properly. All super-automatic machines regardless of manufacturer do a rinse on startup and shutdown.
Hi
Thanks for the review, how does this compare to the De'Longhi dinamica plus?
Looks like you found our video comparing the machines!
@@Wholelattelovepage Where's the comparison, I can't find it. Can you post a link...
I'm deciding between this machine or the Jura D6. What is your preference?
Hey Chris, Thanks for the question. Forgetting about the price difference I'd for sure go with the Magenta Prestige. For more capabilities and much better user interface.
Marc
I have been contemplating an automatic bean-to-cup machine for some time. I currently use a Lavazza capsule machine but, since I am now drinking more coffee am concerned about the number of capsules I am using.
My main choice of drink is a cortado - not an option I've seen on very many machines. I like what I have seen on the Gaggia Magenta Prestige. However, from your experience which machine of this sort wouold you recommend for my use?
Hi GJ, The Magenta Prestige sounds like a good choice for you. Another option is the Cadorna Prestige. It's very similar but has a nicer interface and allows one to save 4 versions of each drink in user profiles. Also has front access to the water reservoir which works out well if the machine is placed under cabinetry. Check it out here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-cadorna-prestige
Marc
how is Gaggia support vs Jura support in case of service issues/repair? I read some pretty bad comments about Gaggia repair process on another site, so I'm a bit hesitant.
Hi v, Thanks for the question. We provide direct customer support and service for Gaggia machines. Take what you read from others with a grain of salt. If properly maintained Gaggia machines and Jura's are very reliable and we get regular customer reports of machines from both companies doing well in excess of 10,000 brew cycles with nothing more than regular maintenance. It's those who neglect regular maintenance like descaling or cleaning of brew units who run into problems requiring repair.
Hi Marc, how do you compare this to the cardona prestige? I don't see massive upgrades other than the slimmer feel. Top loading water could get frustrating to clean? Also spent pucs need to drip tray removed to access. Looks like the brew group is the same though?
Hi Richard, Thanks for the questions. I'll be doing a direct comparison between the Cadorna and Magenta machines in the next few weeks. Until then some key differences. Cadorna: Set up for multiple users with ability to save different versions of drinks in 4 user profiles. XL drinks, front access to water and used coffee drawers, larger carafe with a little more clearance under the spouts. Magenta: Reservoir does remove from the top of the machine, capacitive touch interface (Cadorna has physical buttons), brew group is the same and drinks on both machines made in the same way.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thank you the only answer I've looking and searching for the past couple of hours. it would be nice to have this summary writing under each video with a drink comparison. you said Magenta comes with 2 years warrant?
how does the temperature compare with that of Jura E8? Thanks!
Hi Marina, Thanks for the question. In my experience the Magenta is a little warmer than the E8. Have to be honest I have not done a direct measurement of temperatures out of the E8. But, I have used the E8 and other Jura machines extensively and the Magenta is hotter IMO.
Marc
I recently purchased this from you guys, can I add sugar to the milk in the carafe so that its pre-mixed. that way i dont have to sweeten it when i brew a cappuchino or any milk drink ? I always put in a bit of sugar for any of my milk drinks
Hi GS, Thanks for your patronage! I would not add sugar to the milk carafe. It may cause issues in the frothing components.
Hi Marc! Sunt fericita posesoare a unei Gaggia Magenta PRESTIGE de 2 zile.....dar nu sunt mulțumită de calitatea cafelei: este slabă, nu are cremozitate, la capucino laptele nu este spumat suficient! Și folosesc cafea Lavazza crema &aroma. Espresso, este de asemenea slab....spune-mi te rog, la cât trebuie setată râșniță de cafea? Și la ce temperatura ar fi ideal sa prepar cafeaua simplă și espresso? Mulțumesc pentru ajutor.
Just got the machine delivered today after buying from your website. I notice there is a short stream of water that is released before the milk comes out when im making cappucino, cortado etc.. is this normal or is there something i can adjust so that there is no additional water leaking into the cup for milk beverages. Thanks!
Hi r, A small amount of water is normal - especially with the first milk drink due to condensate in the steam system. In most cases any added water is negligible in relation to total drink volume. Whenever milk is steamed, even on prosumer level machines a small amount of water is added. If you'd prefer not have it you can move the cup aside for the first release of milk. Another tactic is to run a small amount of just frothed milk from the machine immediately prior to making a drink. Hope that helps and thank you for your patronage.
My new machine cannot get through first installation steps. It constantly shows error 5 after water purge step even steam and water did come out.
Hi L, Here's a video discussing E05 causes and solutions: ruclips.net/video/OCsdC9ZSu3c/видео.htmlsi=Oi1DxWAx0CUQHaOq&t=878 Hopefully that helps. If not and you purchased the machine in the US/Canada please contract our tech support staff here for additional assistance: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/contact-us
Hey Whole Latte Love,
Question regarding the Milk Carafe, I have this machine and wonder do i need to do a full tear down wash of the Milk Carafe after each use or is it okay to just do a quick milk rinse for the daily use and perhaps a once a week tear down wash of the components of the milk carafe is necessary. Any input is appreciated on what to do with this. Thanks!
Hey Wayne, Thanks for the question. You've got it right. A quick rinse is fine for daily use so long as it's done within about 10 minutes of making your last milk drink. Then, give it a deeper cleaning at least once a week or if you notice a decrease in frothing performance.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for your feedback Marc. Your attention to detail to people asking questions here is always appreciated. Thanks for your feedback!
Sorry if this is a very basic question, I'm new to these machines, so my apologies. Do all the drink options in the menus have the ability to add a splash of milk if preferred? Say I select a coffee, is there an option on that screen to add a little milk if i plug in the milk carafe? Thank you! :)
Hi v, No apologies needed! If you make a coffee you can then select just milk froth and add a pre-programmed amount of milk froth to your drink. That would be a 2 step process. For a 1 step process you could program a café au lait on the machine with a very small amount of milk.
@@Wholelattelovepage makes perfect sense, thank you! One more question, can this do an 8oz coffee?
You mentioned in other comments that the cardona has 4 user profiles but didn’t specifically say how many the magenta has. Does it only have 1 user profile?
Hi Rob, Yes, 4 profiles on the Gaggia Cadorna machines and 1 on the Magenta.
Marc
I just bought this machine from WLL and it's great. I'm in the "customizing" phase. Instead of always starting from scratch, it'd be very helpful if you posted your "formulas" for different drinks. How many oz/gms of coffee and how many oz/gms of milk. Also the grind setting, temp, and the coffee variety. For example, for a Flat White using Crema Wave with the finest grind, use X oz of coffee and X oz water on X temp. Marc... you like Flat Whites, what's your formula? It'd save me a lot of extra experimenting and I might be able to actually sleep at night. Thanks
Hey MDLB, Thanks for sharing your experience with the Magenta. Here's a video I put up on Friday comparing the Magenta Plus to the Magenta Prestige. In the video I make a flat white using Crema Wave on the Magenta Prestige: ruclips.net/video/aKbdVFfe-Cc/видео.html
My flat white recipe w/Crema Wave... I like them strong so I go with strength level 5. At that setting the machine will grind ~ 11.5g of coffee and when making a flat white it does 2 grind cycles automatically for a total coffee dose of 23g - that's a triple shot so it's a stiffly caffeinated drink! I set the grinder to it's finest setting (always do), temp to high (always). I set espresso volume to 2.5oz and milk volume to max of 3.8oz. That's a morning drink for me as I would not sleep if I downed that much caffeine in the evening!
Marc
Is it possible to do Iced lattes? So just cold milk and add some ice?
Hey j, For sure. Brew your espresso over ice and add some cold milk.
Is the single cup espresso option one shot of espresso or 2?
Hi M, Thanks for the question. You can program the shot size to your preference so a single is a standard single.
Marc
Hi Marc. Just bought the Magenta Prestige from WLL. AWAITING delivery this week! Question. How many grams of coffee are ground at each Flavor/Aroma bean setting? Also does this vary depending on the drink selected? Thank you for your reply.
Hi Rich, Congrats and thanks for your patronage! Dosing range is approx. 6.5 - 11.5g per grind cycle. So lowest strength gets you 6.5 and highest gets you 11.5. That's approximate as it depends a bit on the beans. Lighter roasts are more dense than darker so a bit more or less depending. No variation in dose weight based on the drink selected. When you first use the machine keep in mind it takes about 5 grind cycles to adjust to your beans. First few drinks are usually a little weak as the machine adjusts. Also, I recommend setting the grinder to its finest setting before adding any beans and setting coffee strength to max. After the first 5 or so brew cycles you can back off grind fineness or strength if needed. Hope that helps and enjoy your new machine!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Wow! Thank you for the amazingly fast response Marc. So glad I purchased from WLL.
@@Wholelattelovepage hi Marc. Just want to make sure I have the grind setting in the right place. On the dial in the hopper, the smallest hash mark / indicator is the finest grind, correct?
Bought the magneta prestige and it's nice machine so far but notice it doesn't have flat whites in the menue like it's feature in the video why would that be also notice it doesn't come w a water filter as well
Hi Cory, the full drink menu on the Magenta Prestige offers a total 12 selections including: ristretto (x2), espresso (x2), espresso lungo (x2), coffee (x2), americano, cappuccino, café au lait, café cortado, frothed milk, flat white, latte macchiato, and hot water. Use the lower right button to navigate through drink option screens. Not all machines come with a filter in the box. The water filter is available here: www.wholelattelove.com/products/mavea-intenza-water-filter-for-gaggia-and-saeco
would you recommend the Phillips 5400 or the Gaagia Magenta Prestige?
Hi H, Thanks for the question. I have not used the 5400 so cannot give opinion.
What is the difference in the texture of the milk frothing - wand version vs the model with container that does it for you?
Hi JW, Thanks for the question. The wand version allows the user to texture their milk any way they want. It takes a little skill/practice to do it, but you can go from traditional cappuccino coarse to super-fine texture capable of pouring latte art. Beyond that you can froth to any temperature desired. Machine which froth for you from attachable carafe split the difference so you'll get a medium fine froth. What helps a lot on the Gaggia Magenta Prestige (w/carafe) is the changing of the frothing order depending on the drink being made. Doing that you get excellent drink quality with proper mouthfeel.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you! ☕️
Can you compare between delonghi dinamica lattecrema vs gaggia magenta prestige?
Hi Irene, we're waiting for the new Dinamica Plus to come in (hopefully this month), then plan to do a full video comparing that to the Magenta Prestige!
AJ
Hi, I have have several questions. 1. Can any beans be used with this machine or only specific ones? 2. Do o have to buy beans from you guys? Meaning is there a monthly subscription I have to pay to buy machine from your website? 3. What other fees are added when buying from your company. Thanks.
Hi Dulce, Thanks for the questions. You can use any beans you like except for beans with anything more than a minor amount of visible surface oils. Visible surface oils are more common in very dark roasted beans. Beans are often roasted extra dark to cover flavor defects in inferior beans. You end up tasting the roast and not the flavor of the bean. You do not have to buy beans from us or do a subscription. Shipping on orders over $50 is free. Sales tax is added to orders shipping to New York, Indiana, and Wisconsin.
Hi I recently purchased this machine and the coffee is sooo bitter. I’ve tried two different kinds of beans, and adjusting the grinder with no luck. What can I try please? Many thanks!
Hi AJ, Too bitter generally indicates over-extraction. Corrections for that are set grind coarser, lower brew temp, reduce coffee strength. But you might also try a different coffee - no idea what types you were using but if dark roast you might go to a medium roast.
gaggia cadorna Prestige OR Gaggia magenta Prestige? which one is solid and good for the small business office? Is the magenta the latest product from Gaggia and could have better technology?
Hi Mazin, Thanks for the question. For small office I'd go with the Cadorna Prestige. It has 4 user profiles so 4 versions can be saved of each drink. The Cadorna is a slightly more recent design than the Magenta.
Marc
Hi Mark! I have a pregnant sister in the market for an espresso machine. I recently got my Gaggia Classic Pro and a Baratza Sette 270. My sister is attracted to the ease of use of a super automatic machine, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on what else to consider when choosing super vs. semiautomatic. Thanks!
WOW 😯 that is a huge question! If i may; The biggest difference is of course the user friendliness of the super automatic. If you really like just to push a button to have a noce coffe (especially if you like milk based beverages) the fully automatic is really plug and play. But if you are more of a purist and you like to have more control but also more space for errors then you should go semi automatic. In my experience I would also say to get similar results with a fully automatic you spend more money on a fully automatic one. The cleaning, service and maintenance is also different. with the semi automatic you can do lots of work yourself but you need to send it in if its a fully automatic one. And then of course since the fully automatic has more features there is more stuff that could break but usually if you go high quality that shouldn’t be a problem. I would actually choose between the two by asking those questions;
1. Do I have time in the morning to prepare a coffee?
2. Do I like to try around different coffees and recipes?
3. Do I want to grow with my machine and be able to upgrade my equipment individually?
3. Am I the only one making coffee at home and how do they answer the previous questions?
The more Yes the more you are a semiautomatic guy. In the end it’s like a philosophy/religion. The most important thing is that you like your coffee and the experience!
Cheers - Sandy
Hey MM, If you watch my vids you know I'm bouncing back and forth between semi and super-auto machines everyday. Supers are all about the convenience. They're ready to go about a minute after turning them on and the machine does all the work. Quality is very consistent drink to drink. You do give up the potential for over the top quality you have with the semi's. But reaching perfection on a semi takes effort, knowledge and patience. Quality out of supers is similar to what you'd get in an average cafe and much better than major chain shops. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@sandyd4271 some very good points there. I chose to go semi auto for many years and, before I had to stop work, I was planning on improving my setup as I improved my skills. Unfortunately my health has stopped me standing to make my coffee and so this is why I've now decided to go from my Sage Barista Express (UK version of the Breville) to the Gaggia Magenta.
I have had this machine since last week and already I have an issue I'd appreciate hearing whether any others have had. The issue is that my machine doesn't actually rinse through on start up despite the on screen message stating that the routine is in progress. It did do this at first but 2 days after taking it into operation and it has stopped pushing any water through.
Hi Dan, I passed your comment along to our lead service tech who gave this advice...
Assuming there is water in the tank, because the machine would tell you to add water. My next thought would be to make sure the water tank is seated properly. Make sure there is nothing in the water tank holding area that wouldn't allow it to seat all the way down. If the tank is slightly up, it will draw air and not water. If there is a filter in the tank. I would remove it and then test to see if water moves then.
A video would be helpful also.
Any errors or messages that come up on the screen when it doesn't complete rinse?
I'm guessing it's something simple, since it is only a couple of days old.
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks for caring firstly :) Secondly, the rinsing is only not happening on start up - I see no water coming out at all. On shutdown, it does rinse, strangely! So rinsing does work, just not always when it should. No error messages come up - rather I get the message that rinsing is taking place and I hear noises that suggest indeed some part of the routine is working. Could it be that on start up the result of the rinse does not come through the nozzles that dispense the coffee but somehow the water finds it's way directly to the tray? I have noticed that the tray always seems to be fuller than I expected it to be. On shutdown water does come out of the coffee dispenser, so it could be a false expectation that the same should happen on start up.
So actually, the start up rinsing cycle only sends water to the drip tray not through the dispensing nozzles. So, all good!
Im looking at the Valencia and the magenta refurbished on your site.
Why does the Valencia cost more than the Magenta even though the Magenta does more and is more modern? Im trying to decide between the two.
Hi gb, Not certain why they are priced that way. Personally I'd go with the Magenta for higher dispensing spouts and drink variety.
@@Wholelattelovepage I wonder if it's the stainless steel body?
Please, need help. I want to start a very small cafe... May I use this machine?
Hi m, Not recommended - it's not intended for commercial use.
Is heavy cream usable with the frother?’
Hi JM, Not something we've tried but I suspect it may be too thick to work well.
Which one to buy? Philips 3221 or magenta prestige??
Hi Selman, Compare the features that are important to you and let that guide your decision. Personally, I'd go with the made in Italy Magenta.
I’m deciding between this and the refurbished Cardona Prestige. Is there a warranty on refurbished? Thanks.
Hi V, Yes there is a warranty: Term (Refurbished): 6-month parts and labor through Whole Latte Love.
@@Wholelattelovepage hello! Thank you for the reply. I decided to get a new Cardona prestige with the current discount. I can’t wait to receive it.
@@voltaire7412 You are welcome and good choice. It's what I use everyday!
I'm planning to buy it soon, what coffee do you suggest?
Hi Marc, Depends on what you like. For a classic Italian style espresso try
Lavazza Super Crema: www.wholelattelove.com/products/lavazza-super-crema-whole-bean-espresso-coffee
or Maromas Orphea: www.wholelattelove.com/products/maromas-orphea-whole-bean-espresso
For a modern take on classic Italian that's fresher than roasted in Italy coffees try Crema Wave which is a 100% Arabica blend using only specialty grade beans: www.wholelattelove.com/products/whole-latte-love-crema-wave-whole-bean-espresso
Read the reviews at links above and see what fits your taste.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage
Bought the magenta waiting for delivery! Can't wait
is there any updated model of this one? as its a year old already or any news on new one?
Hi GM, No new Magenta models but there is a new new updated Gaggia Accademia: www.wholelattelove.com/products/gaggia-accademia-espresso-machine
@@Wholelattelovepage yes waiting for you guys to review this one
I'm stuck between this and a Philips Lattego 4300 or 5400. Tough call.
In my experience, do NOT get the LatteGo. I had one, and the milk based drinks left a lot to be desired. First of all, they were miniature. Also, the espresso it made was mostly sour to my taste. But the most important reason is that despite the milk I tried, including whole milk, the consistency of the milk was terrible, and disappeared into the coffee shortly after it was processed. Forget about latte art quality in this coffee maker. if you are looking at the 4300 line you are better served in getting the one with the classic milk frother, and save about $200.00. This way, you can make the milk to the consistency you want.
Does it keep cups warm on top of machine?
Hi YR, No, the Magenta does not have a cup warmer. That's a fairly rare feature on automatic machines. The new premium level Gaggia Accademia dose have an electrically heated cup warmer: ruclips.net/video/jZWS38_Jge4/видео.html
what is maximum cup capacity per day for this machine?
Hi HA, Thanks for the question. Often when asked this question it's because someone want to use in a commercial application. If that's you, know this machine is intended for home use. In reality no problem making many cups cups per day but it does not have a specific cup per day capacity rating.
I have noticed Magenta prestige releases smoke on the right side grills while making milk .. is it normal behaviour?
Hi CT, hahaha - no smoke that's steam!
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks .. so is it normal performance (not to say feat) of the machine? Also, small tray under the brew group seems to be filled pretty quickly so the machine spills liquid residuals pretty soon ... another feat I guess? Other than that, annoying thing is that certain process (i e clean cycle) cannot be stopped or cancelled, or at least I am not managing it.
Can you tell me there differences between this machine and the DeLonghi Elleta Top?
Hi Jaime, Thanks for the question. Here's my video review of the DeLonghi Elleta: ruclips.net/video/e1ZAkI8r5Eg/видео.html
The Elleta has been around for a number of years. It's +25% price of the Magenta and has less modern interface. I prefer the UI of the Magenta. But it may have some other features which appeal to some like adjustable froth density.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, I have the DeLonghi Eletta Top for two years now. I have found the interface is confusing and was very impressed with your video and how user friendly it is. Basically I want to know if I will be missing out on anything from the DeLonghi if I buy the Gaggia from you? Thank you very much.
Hi Jaime, User interface on the Magenta is a lot nicer than the Eletta! Your machine does have the adjustable froth density on the carafe control. The Magenta does not. But Magenta does flip milk prep order to be appropriate for the drink made. I know you will find the Magenta much easier to use with the more modern display with color drink pics and names plus the ability to make any adjustments to drink before it's made. After drink finishes you can easily save changes if you want. Hope that helps!
Marc
Do you have any idea how much coffe goes into the coffe pot?
Hi CC, The Magenta ranges from 6.5 - 11.5g per brew cycle. Selecting 2 coffees to brew automatically runs two grind cycles so dose range for that is 13 - 23g.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks
Does it make already grinded coffee?
Hi YR, Yes, the Magenta has a bypass doser for using pre-ground coffee.
How do you clean or maintain this machine ?
Hi TB, Here's a link to the manual which describes cleaning and maintenance: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/4416303123219/Gaggia_Magenta_Prestige_User_Manual.pdf
I’m torn. Which super automatic Gaggia do I get ?!?
Hey Sonja, Choices right? Magenta Prestige is very similar to the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. Slightly higher price on the Cadorna gets you front slide out access to water reservoir, 4 user profiles so you can store 4 versions of each drink, XL versions of some drinks. Internal brew group is the same on both machines and drinks common between the machines brew in the same way so both do Americano, true double shot flat white and flip the milk prep order as needed for drink. Hope that helps!
Marc
Looks very convenient, I had a Phillips LatteGo and returned it because the coffee tasted very flat. Then I went to a Jura and it also lacked body. How does this compare? FWIW I ended up with an ECM Synchronika FC and a Eureka Specialita and will never go back. The small bit of extra work is worth the effort! Thanks for helping me make a decision with all these videos!
Hi David, Thanks for the comment and you are welcome! The Synchronika with FC is a whole other beast compared to automatic machines. With the right coffee, some skills, knowledge and a bit of patience one can extract world class espresso. You nailed it, super-automatics are convenient and consistent.
Marc
How hot is the milk coming out?
Hi JJ, Like all super-automatic machines frothed milk is dispensed in the sweet zone of 130-145F. At those temps milk gains the most apparent sweetness from heating. Same temp range a well trained barista manually froths milk to for best flavor. Frothing hotter reduces sweetness.
Marc
What are the differences between the Magenta Prestige & the Anima Prestige?
Hi SHG, Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Magenta and Anima Prestige machines: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MTU0NTk4NTY1NDg0Myw2NTY4MDk0ODkyMDg2
@@Wholelattelovepage I decided to order the Magenta. Can I use the Wemo switch to turn the machine on & off?
How does this compare to the cadorna prestige?
Hey 86, It's very similar to the Cadorna with a lower price point. Drinks found on both machines brew the same way, drink programming works the same way on both machines. Cadorna has physical buttons while the Magenta has capacitive touch buttons. Cadorna has XL versions of some drinks the Magenta does not. 4 user profiles on the Cadorna allow one to save 4 additional versions of drinks. Cadorna milk carafe is a little larger and has more clearance under the spouts. Cadorna has front pull out access to water and used coffee drawers.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage thanks for the reply Marc. Much appreciated
how do you like this machine Vs. the Cadorna Prestige?
Hi Masaki, Thanks for the question. We have this video which compares the Magenta and Cadorna models: ruclips.net/video/PnKCkGjyr-I/видео.html
At many levels they are very similar. The Cadorna Prestige has the ability to store 4 versions of each drink in user profiles - a handy feature if machine is used by more than one person or by one person who might want different versions of a drink. Personally I prefer the front access to water reservoir on the Cadorna and not having to slide out the entire drip tray to access the used coffee drawer. Overall the materials are a bit nicer on the Cadorna and I prefer its user interface over the Magenta. Hope that helps!
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage That helped a lot. Thank you Marc, you are the best.
@@masakik3730 my pleasure. I love helping a whole latte!
Hi, is there any official retailers in Malaysia country?
A quick search turned up this one: www.lazada.com.my/gaggia/
Marc