I'm amazed yours ran straight away with the Train o Matic decoder. Mine ran off at 50% speed on speed step 1, and I had to change CV61, P factor of the BEMF, from 80 to 10 to get it to behave. Then having adjusted CV5 and CV6 to match scale speed as the loco runs far too fast, I found F3 while activiting the firebox light slowed the loco. I remapped the decoder functions so that F1 and F2 switch the firebox LEDs, leaving F3 as a 'shunt' mode. Also there is no flicker function on the Train o Matic decoder.
With the exception of 57565 (the black one w/early BR logo) it's actually the same loco across the board! Following grouping of raIlways CR no. 828 ran as LMS no.17566, then BR no. 57566. The Strathspey Railway where 828 runs is my local preserved railway, so I'm lucky to see it running regularly.
O.S.Nock always stated that the Perth overhauled locos were painted in a darker shade than St. Rollox due to different amounts of white added to the Prussian blue
Thanks Jenny, good video. I received my sound fitted one today and I was surprised how involved it was. Normally I buy my locos without sound but as this was a small one I decided to buy it fitted. Good decision, not only was it cheaper than buying sound later but if I had bought an after market one I doubt I would have got the interlocking features.
Absolutely love these. The Caledonian livery looks immaculate indeed, I’m sure people will be chuffed! The LMS livery was also quite surprising to me, it looks superb. I’m still not 100pc sure about that price though.
Does the firebox light up on DC control? Because if not I feel it jacks the price up for a feature that is unusable to DC users like myself. I’m considering buying one, but if the firebox is useless, it may cause me to rethink
Would you do a review of Hornby’s J36 with a haulage test as I’m hoping to get one of the upcoming 1948 British Railways livery and maybe do a comparison with the Bachman 812
Labor costs in China, costs for tooling and probably many other things. Not to mention that it's an "Exclusive" so its bound to be more than what you would pay for normally if this was in Bachmann's main range
@@18EStudios still it’s a lot to have gone up by in such a short space of time and I’m not just saying about this engine, all tender engines including the other engine Rails have done, the Improved President.
Beautiful model! But, as a young guy still in school in the United States, I find it increasingly difficult to cope with these outrageous prices. It’s highly discouraging to anyone around my age looking to get into this hobby or someone who doesn’t have the lavish spending ability for these products. I’m in slight doubt about the exceeding price increases due to labor costs when you still have other manufacturers delivering good quality models two times cheaper. Overall, great view though!
Great review real can't wait to receive mine 2 and lnwr improved precedent class Does the flicker work on analogue like it does on the Bachmann 1p or not. Both fantastic model Thank you for sharing your model Keep safe arp
Do you know when exactly the release date for the 812s will be? I'm just asking because I have two of them on pre order and won't have any money until the 12th of next month
Great review. Thanks for that . This is a loco I’ve been waiting for for years . As a DCer I’m not really bothered by speaker installation and firebox glow , I would have rather had a less expensive price . If maybe even coming in at £150 I’d have been tempted for two . As it is I’ve restricted myself to a dark blue one . Priced at £179 for the black ones and £199 for the Caley blue these are not cheap in comparison to say a Hornby J36 that I do have two of . Yes they are not blue, but Maude has equally fine lining to the Caley model and was £135 TTS sound fitted . I think my BR one was £105 . So these are expensive for an 0-6-0 . I dare say the £300 locos are diecast Pacific’s , so not really a valid comparison . But it’s nearly 4 years since announcement and they look very fine models , so I’ll be pleased when it arrives .
Probably costs so much because it's an "Exclusive" so its bound to be more than what you would pay for if these were in the main range. Not to mention labor costs in china and the cost for tooling amongst other things plus the current situation with the world rn. If these where announced as part of the main range back in 2018 the price probably would've been around £150-£160 but that's just a wild speculation from me :)
Brilliant review. :) Those models really do look splendid. :) And yes you are correct the Caledonian class 812 loco is the basis for Donald and Douglas. :)
Know I know want I will begin asking my mum to order the 812 class in that amazing Caledonian railway blue as it just looks beautiful. Great review Jennifer Kirk. But would you get the 🔥 fire box fickle even if you was running it on analogue controller thanks Jennifer Kirk?
@@JenniferEKirk understood. I have the Caledonian Dark Blue (Preserved) DCC Ready version and the and the BR Black Late Crest DCC Sound version pre ordered.
Well those are covered in dust. I guess that is the norm for review models. But probably means Sam had it first! Enjoyed this comprehensive review Jenny, and I’m looking forward to mine arriving
Hi Jenny. Not impressed by the thickness of the tender tops. Looks far too square in comparison to the real thing. Its not noticeable looking side on but would be noticeable at normal viewing angles on a layout. It might be possible to relieve that sharp tender top inside edge if only to get rid of that square look. This shows one of the problems of pre ordering models especially if you have to pay a non refundable deposit. Pre ordering is often made on the basis of a few photographs. Tony.
Lovely model, good review, but, oh, that sound. Sorry, but to me it's dreadful. I keep hearing a humanoid voice saying "chuff-chuff-chuff" at different speeds! The sound in many model diesels has a somewhat realistic sound, but steam locos need far more depth and bass than this. My preference is to let my imagination and memory supply the sounds. What a miserable old git I am!
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Great review! I can't wait for my two to arrive. Thanks Jenny for wetting my appetite!
This is a beautiful locomotive!! Absolutely gorgeous detailing, and exceptional adjustment for the tender. I love the style of this model.
I'm amazed yours ran straight away with the Train o Matic decoder. Mine ran off at 50% speed on speed step 1, and I had to change CV61, P factor of the BEMF, from 80 to 10 to get it to behave. Then having adjusted CV5 and CV6 to match scale speed as the loco runs far too fast, I found F3 while activiting the firebox light slowed the loco. I remapped the decoder functions so that F1 and F2 switch the firebox LEDs, leaving F3 as a 'shunt' mode. Also there is no flicker function on the Train o Matic decoder.
Great sound file!! And that firebox flicker is absolutely gorgeous!!
Wow! Impressive sounds. Love the flickering firebox. Especially the draw of the fire!
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Yes, Donald and Douglas were based on the Caledonian 812
Hopefully the darker blue version is arriving tomorrow :-) I have just started collecting Locomotives and this is going to be the best so far
With the exception of 57565 (the black one w/early BR logo) it's actually the same loco across the board! Following grouping of raIlways CR no. 828 ran as LMS no.17566, then BR no. 57566.
The Strathspey Railway where 828 runs is my local preserved railway, so I'm lucky to see it running regularly.
So beautiful and seems like so worth the wait. Thank you Jenny and thank you Rails/Bachmann/CR 828 Trust!!
O.S.Nock always stated that the Perth overhauled locos were painted in a darker shade than St. Rollox due to different amounts of white added to the Prussian blue
Would like to collect one especially the Caladonian Blue though ok with the LMS black on a price point of view
Thanks Jenny, good video. I received my sound fitted one today and I was surprised how involved it was. Normally I buy my locos without sound but as this was a small one I decided to buy it fitted. Good decision, not only was it cheaper than buying sound later but if I had bought an after market one I doubt I would have got the interlocking features.
I've got a weathered BR one on order and I can't wait to see it in the flesh!
It looks like they were well worth the wait, especially the CR blue one!
Great review Jenny tempted to get the preserved Caly Blue 828 version.
Assuming the final models I receive are like these. Definitely worth the wait.
All the examples bar the BR early Crest model are those of 828, 17566/57566 was her LMS/BR number.
Yeah I noticed that a while back as well. It's a bit odd tbh
@@18EStudios I thought it was a nice homage to 828, renumbering a model locomotive is relatively easy if you want to represent different examples.
Great review and absolutely beautiful models. I especially love the light blue. But at £300 for the factory sound there a little above my budget.
Excellent review great looking models thanks Jenny 😀👍
I'm a fan of the 0-6-0 tender engines so this is one I'll be aiming for
yes Donald and Douglas were based off of the Caledonian Railway 812
Absolutely love these. The Caledonian livery looks immaculate indeed, I’m sure people will be chuffed! The LMS livery was also quite surprising to me, it looks superb. I’m still not 100pc sure about that price though.
Good review as usual.
Wow this my fav steam loco video because I’m LOVE 812s (I wish u can give one to me, even tho that u can’t )
Wonderful video
This model is number 1 on my wishlist! My absolute favorite class of locomotive! Getting it here in the States might be a bit of a headache though...
Just got mine in the States from Rails. Well packaged and costs about the same including shipping and minus UK VAT. Came in under a week.
Nice models particularly the blue
awesome video
@Jennifer E. Kirk Did they include etched plates for the Caley variation?
Can I ask what are the coaches the light blue one is pulling on your layout please? :)
Does the firebox light up on DC control? Because if not I feel it jacks the price up for a feature that is unusable to DC users like myself. I’m considering buying one, but if the firebox is useless, it may cause me to rethink
Would you do a review of Hornby’s J36 with a haulage test as I’m hoping to get one of the upcoming 1948 British Railways livery and maybe do a comparison with the Bachman 812
Why have tender locos gone up in price by about £80 in 2 or 3 years?
Labor costs in China, costs for tooling and probably many other things. Not to mention that it's an "Exclusive" so its bound to be more than what you would pay for normally if this was in Bachmann's main range
@@18EStudios still it’s a lot to have gone up by in such a short space of time and I’m not just saying about this engine, all tender engines including the other engine Rails have done, the Improved President.
Great review
Beautiful model! But, as a young guy still in school in the United States, I find it increasingly difficult to cope with these outrageous prices. It’s highly discouraging to anyone around my age looking to get into this hobby or someone who doesn’t have the lavish spending ability for these products. I’m in slight doubt about the exceeding price increases due to labor costs when you still have other manufacturers delivering good quality models two times cheaper. Overall, great view though!
Great review real can't wait to receive mine 2 and lnwr improved precedent class
Does the flicker work on analogue like it does on the Bachmann 1p or not.
Both fantastic model
Thank you for sharing your model
Keep safe arp
Great review. The locos look excellent. I wouldn't mind one of them, Lms for me please. 😊
I think it may be my laptop but when the loco was on the rolling road and started chuffing it just sounded like a very loose bowel movement.
Hello! Great Video. I am thinking of re-entering the 00 gauge hobby after 5 years. How do you do your signalling?
Do you know when exactly the release date for the 812s will be? I'm just asking because I have two of them on pre order and won't have any money until the 12th of next month
They're due to arrive sometime next month along with the LNWR Improved Precedent and the V2
@@18EStudios I just hope it's after the 12th as that's when I get paid, had a wee bit of an emergency come up and had to spend the money I had saved
Great review. Thanks for that . This is a loco I’ve been waiting for for years . As a DCer I’m not really bothered by speaker installation and firebox glow , I would have rather had a less expensive price . If maybe even coming in at £150 I’d have been tempted for two . As it is I’ve restricted myself to a dark blue one . Priced at £179 for the black ones and £199 for the Caley blue these are not cheap in comparison to say a Hornby J36 that I do have two of . Yes they are not blue, but Maude has equally fine lining to the Caley model and was £135 TTS sound fitted . I think my BR one was £105 . So these are expensive for an 0-6-0 . I dare say the £300 locos are diecast Pacific’s , so not really a valid comparison . But it’s nearly 4 years since announcement and they look very fine models , so I’ll be pleased when it arrives .
Probably costs so much because it's an "Exclusive" so its bound to be more than what you would pay for if these were in the main range. Not to mention labor costs in china and the cost for tooling amongst other things plus the current situation with the world rn. If these where announced as part of the main range back in 2018 the price probably would've been around £150-£160 but that's just a wild speculation from me :)
Brilliant review. :) Those models really do look splendid. :) And yes you are correct the Caledonian class 812 loco is the basis for Donald and Douglas. :)
Know I know want I will begin asking my mum to order the 812 class in that amazing Caledonian railway blue as it just looks beautiful. Great review Jennifer Kirk. But would you get the 🔥 fire box fickle even if you was running it on analogue controller thanks Jennifer Kirk?
So do the DCC ready version have a pre-fitted speaker?
Yes. It is fitted in place behind the firebox flicker circuitry.
@@JenniferEKirk understood. I have the Caledonian Dark Blue (Preserved) DCC Ready version and the and the BR Black Late Crest DCC Sound version pre ordered.
Out of interest, where was the speaker in the sound version?
Donald and Douglas
I approve of pre-grouping engines.
Good morning Jen!! I’m sorry I’ve been not very well recently and took time off watching You Tube. I’m much better now I’m in a very much better home.
Well those are covered in dust. I guess that is the norm for review models. But probably means Sam had it first! Enjoyed this comprehensive review Jenny, and I’m looking forward to mine arriving
ok if you have the money for these locos.mean while keep running the hornby caledonian pug. runs just as well
I wouldn't waste my money on one engine with a high price
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Hi Jenny.
Not impressed by the thickness of the tender tops. Looks far too square in comparison to the real thing.
Its not noticeable looking side on but would be noticeable at normal viewing angles on a layout.
It might be possible to relieve that sharp tender top inside edge if only to get rid of that square look.
This shows one of the problems of pre ordering models especially if you have to pay a non refundable deposit.
Pre ordering is often made on the basis of a few photographs.
Tony.
Lovely model, good review, but, oh, that sound. Sorry, but to me it's dreadful. I keep hearing a humanoid voice saying "chuff-chuff-chuff" at different speeds! The sound in many model diesels has a somewhat realistic sound, but steam locos need far more depth and bass than this. My preference is to let my imagination and memory supply the sounds. What a miserable old git I am!