The day after we filmed this, Apple made a statement to Ars Technica about the jelly scroll issue! You can read their statement here: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/2021-ipad-mini-suffers-from-uneven-jelly-scrolling-in-portrait-mode/ Basically they say it's normal LCD behavior, which is true! It definitely could have been mitigated with a different display design though. It doesn't bother us too much, but what do you think?
Actually, considering the position of the volume rocker is on top (so it becomes easily accessible when held in landscape) make me think that maybe Apple designed this iPad to be used mostly in landscape, maybe due to the lack of horizontal space it would have respect to any other iPad.
@@ussf-unitedstatesspaceforc7541 Are iPads water resistant? No. Are adhesives required for ingress protection? No. Xperia Active of 2011 had an IP67 rating, had a toolless back panel, removable battery, and internals accessible with only a screwdriver.
@@ussf-unitedstatesspaceforc7541 never heard of a proper rubber gasket as well as a few well placed screws? they have been using them everywhere for a while now...
The refreshing of a display is always correlated with where the display controller is placed. You can even see it on the Apple Watches Oled display, where the control unit is on the right side of the watch housing. When you are in a dark room and put it in theater mode and twist the crown, you’ll see the display coming to light beginning on the right side. It’s the same thing.
Zorba yes it gives me headache. On my mini 5 the jelly was in landscape which mostly used on media content one cannot see. Reading and scroll the web in portrait was fine. Now its a joke. Unusable for people prone to motion sickness. Who reads in landscape ffs. I use it one handed vertically.
@@seha2306 Means the screen is serialized and the motherboard remembers the part number, so when you swap in a screen that doesn't have the same number, even if it's a transplanted one from another iPhone, it will still refuse to work properly.
@@hummingbird71so the ipad mini screen isn't serialised and synced with the motherboard? Would be good to know as I always do my own screen and battery replacements for my devices.
watching this video made me realize that how useful 3dpriters can be for repairing. you can just design a tool that can only go in by a specified amount of MM. so you never run into the risk of cutting anything important :) you can dull the end with slight sanding before using it too
Wow, the USB-C connector not just modular but you can also easily access the contacts to clean them or bend them back if necessary, it would be great if other devices would use this type of USB-C connector.
Yeah it’s nice that apples used a usb c port like that! the middle comes out which is what usually needs fixing. And they didn’t solder it to the board like most android devices do.
@@WalterMan I like that move too, but it’s gonna be a PITA to get to the port. Hence why I’d like to see them use 2 screws on each side to mount the display
I don’t know why Apple is getting flack for this? It’s an LCD panel, they’re all like this. They didn’t even make a marketing push about now “next-gen” the screen is or whatever.
I never heard of or didn't notice this jelly scroll until recently when people were talking about it. Even though I now know it exists it just doesn't bother me, because I don't see it unless I am looking for it and I don't look for it.
The strong glue on the battery helps with chassis rigidity. Such a slim and big device is prone to a lot of flexing so don't be "dissapointed" that they used the glue. Be glad that it won't bend an flex like crazy.
Be nice to see Apple make an ethical device. I'm over the "thin at all costs" mentality where repair-ability and recycle-ability are sacrificed to make it a tiny fraction thinner. Really, as the world richest company, I'd have thought their engineers up to the challenge. I guess the marketing folks have greater sway. Though could be to do with the fact Apple makes most of it's money from hardware (massive markup compared to industry norms). So making it disposable and limited in life is the business model they choose.
Well, it's not about thin-ness at all. It's about profit, of course. This diverts all repair and service traffic to be first rather than third party. It's part of apples unethical and unsustainable closed "eco"system. They are actively engaged in defeating the right to repair, and even making major moves towards defeating ownership itself.
i'm curious just how much Jony Ive was holding them back in terms of form over function. seems they haven't deviated too far from his design work yet, but they may do.
The Jelly issue has been going on for years and years and years when using the iPad and other LCD screens. Tbh I have never realised it, I guess if you are actively looking for it you will see it. If you have to slow something down to slow mo for your eyes to see it then it really isn’t an issue. So idk why this is just “now” getting attention if it has been a known issue for years.
Yes exactly it's just a typical first World problem that people like to complain about. As you say jelly scrolling has been there for years and it effects even top of the range tablets like the Samsung s7 and the ipad pro 11 too.
It’s one thing they don’t need to do but I appreciate that they do it.. though I must confess that when replacing charging ports I don’t always use the matching color
Have the Ipad mini 6 and I really cannot notice the jelly scroll issue even after being told on how to replicate it. Maybe its just my eye. Literally nothing else can compete with it for the size though
@@Deltanova93 because it costs so much for something this small, and now it has jelly scrolling on a sad 60Hz screen. It's just not worth it. Maybe next time when they release the iPad mini 7.
You don’t want them to take tips from the iPhone Team. Personally, the iPad Team has been better at right to repair than the iPhone Team but maybe it has something to do with the iOS and iPadOS Team?
None of the engineers would want that, it's the marketing and business people that spring for locking down hardware components, making parts impossible to get, etc.
And the old design iPads don't have problems like that. There must be something wrong with the new team who design this. Remember the new Pro that bends? lol (I'm using iPad Mini 5 so I'm not a hater but I'm really curious what's wrong with Apple recently).
@@eliazarmarcano5616 couldn't agree more. "Industry-leading displays " = jelly scrolls. Still a fan of iOS though (can't go back to Android now haha) 😂
@Joseph iphones and ipads bending was an actual issue which is why Apple fixed it 😂😂😂 Also jelly scroll can't be improved with software since it's a hardware fault
Apple : yeah we knew already our new iPad mini will have this, all LCD display's have jelly. Consumer : but most don't have this issue, beacuse they design it so it didn't have jelly. Apple : hey listen, were apple, you gonna buy it anyway, we saved a few bucks, and makes our 120hz models look better. Consumer: but... Apple: one more thing..(shotgun sound)leave no witnesses....
People will always find something to be mad about lol been using the ipads for years and i didn’t notice what this jelly scroll is all about because, yes the ipads deliver and they work just as fine.
If these parts aren’t paired, it will show us they Apple purposely go out of their way to hamper iPhone repair… since it’s a larger market than the iPad.
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i really really love iPad mini 6. Thanks for the video that i can see inside of it . big battery
@@anakinskyguy6582 that's the only reason I can think of. If the speakers go bad they can say "well the speaker is built into the unibody housing, and replacing it will cost $299"
This jelly scroll thing is something I noticed on my iPad 3 back in the day. I thought that it was on all screens, but just very noticeable on my iPad because it was so big. In my head, it made sense, because I figured it had something to do with how the screen refreshes. Interesting seeing how the iPad Air compares to the mini here. Also, I would only notice the scrolling while in landscape, and mostly when swiping through photos, since the photos would not look perfectly square/rectangle as they were moving. But I thought it was something kind of funny to see, but I didn’t notice it otherwise. Generally I don’t see it on my current iPad (it has 120hz to be fair) and I saw it a little on a iPad 8 on display at Best Buy, in landscape I think. Cheaper panels might make it more noticeable, but I think it’s not a huge deal. Apparently some people get nauseous or dizzy with it, but I don’t know how true that is
Thanks for the flash warning, I really appreciate it as I have photosensitivity and I’m so thankful for a warning, as the few videos and movies I have seen with flashing have not given a warning and I ended up with a bad headache. Great vid! I love tear downs on technology! I might not ever do it myself and I could never stand to be in the room or area during a durability test or tear down on a brand new piece of tech, I still like to see what’s inside of it and how it works, keep it up!
I own a ipad mini 5, I will say, even in horizontal, the jelly scrolls is WAY less than mini 6 in vertical, so I will go for apple is using a cheaper screen than mini 5. So I guess I will wait for mini 7
Ayo iFixit Can you guys tear down a mouse? Obviously not a live mouse but maybe from Logitech or something? I'd be really curious to see what you guys would think about the repairability of mice.
I don't understand the jelly scroll issue. Do people actually notice during normal use? I've looked for it while using mine but haven't noticed at all.
@@zorba4413 yeah, I’ve tried that and I don’t notice anything and I’m really trying to see it. Again, if you have to go to an extreme to notice a problem then it really isn’t an issue.
If you have to show the issue at 5x slowness then it cannot be a huge issue. I have not seen a single video that can display this issue at 1x realtime...
Yes I agree, I have tried 10 ipad mini 6s in various stores, I never notices the jelly scrolling atall when I went on texts website, Apple store etc. Never notices it atall in normal use etc. I am sure if I slowed it down x5 with a camera maybe then I would see it? But we don't use a ipad /tablet like that! We just use it normal etc, so personally I just don't see an issue here.
The Jelly Scrolling is Causing Nausea in my Case. It apparently triggers something called Vestibular Imbalance in Some and Causes Headache or Vertigo or Nausea while Scrolling.
@@zorba4413 your wrong! for Alot of people they don't even notice it, if you dekub look and slow it down then yes you will see, just like you will see it on 120hz pro motion displays to like the Samsung s7 and ipad pro 11 too. I have tested 10 ipad mini 6 in a few stores so far, websites with lots of text and the apple store app, I didn't notice any jelly effect on any of the ipad mini 6s whatsoever! They all seemed fine to me. I am thinking of getting one actually, as I love the form factor it's superb.
hahha when apple has problems doesnt matter but if samsung does it then its crap, thats why apple fanboys do exist.bendgate users also didnt knew about their bent iphones lol.
@@sergioyichiong7269 That’s because, as is typical, Samsung is far more consistent in rescuing failure from the jaws of success in terms of product quality. “Muh bendgate” isn’t the argument you think it is.
Have the Ipad Mini 6, and tbh even after seeing the video and how to replicate it.... I don't really notice it so I will just forget about it. For people concerned about using it while reading.... if you are using Slide to replicate a book, this is a non-issue even if you know about it. The thing literally have no competition on its class anyway for people looking for 8" tablet, top-tier SoC, top-tier software support, top-tier screen, and don't mind spending money for it.
Just started a return for my ipad mini 6. The jelly scroll in portrait mode is way too noticeable to enjoy browsing content. I'm super bummed because I was really looking forward to this ipad mini refresh.
Sorry Englishis not my first language, is there other problems in the ipad, i want to buy it very much.. and it will cost me 583$ in my country even more... haha it's more than my salary for 2 month. so is portrait mode realy a big deal... cause i can't understand the whole video.. sorry for bothering u again.
@@naghamha2753 It depends how you primarily intend to hold it. If you are mainly going to hold in landscape then its not a big deal. Everything else about the ipad mini is fine, design, form factor etc. But since I was going to use this as a portrait oriented device, having the display controller mounted on the side causing the screen to have the "jelly effect" while scrolling is a huge deal breaker for me.
Went to Best Buy and played with the MIni 6. The jelly scrolling was obvious and bothersome as was the scaling on the home screen. Also, the volume rockers are not user friendly. $499.00 for a paltry 64gb and another $59.00 for a flimsy cover and over $100.00 for the pencil. Apple continues to rip off their base.
@@ljacobs357 is because your iPad and other don’t have the lcd screen if apple knew lcd screen causes that issue why put on the iPad 6 but who knows plus android tablet has the same issue too with jelly scrolling but is not that obvious
I have a iPad Mini 6 and a 11" iPad Pro. The iPad Pro looks so much better and scrolls so much better but I wish it were smaller. I am still in my return period and I'm thinking of returning it. If I wasn't so steeped in the Apple ecosystem I'd replace my iPhone 14 Pro with a Galaxy Z Fold 4 and use that as my mini tablet.
Seriously, I went to the apple store multiple times and I always notice the jelly scroll when I played around with the mini. I love the tablet so much but I cant ignore it...
iFixit needs to re-do its reparability scoring. The rating presented for Apple products now, is at best a 'disassembly ease' score. Reparability is now hampered by Apple by means of parts unavailability, tools availability, documentation availability, and software locks. If an typical independent repair shop is denied the right-to-repair, then reparability score is zero. Also, the physical orientation of the display board is not related to the vsync orientation of the panel. A ribbon cable changes the orientation of the board vis-a-vis the panel. On the other hand, vsync orientation if perpendicular to viewing direction, can easily result in visible jelly scrolling.
My 5th gen iPad Mini jelly scrolls a high-density text web page in landscape whereas it is barely perceptible in portrait. This is the alternate orientation compared with the 6th gen. I typically use my iPad Mini in landscape except when reading eBooks, so I would prefer 6th gen Mini LCD controller set-up.
this ipad mini 6 is the same lcd as my old ipad mini 2 and therefore waiting for oled version to even consider upgrade. In my eyes there is no progress after all those years and I wouldn't be able to use my headphones lol. Nothing to see here
You will be waiting quite a number of years before apple do an oled screen if they ever do atall that is, it's not cost effective for them for starters avd if they did, the price would go up significantly! So I doubt they will do an oled display ever on the mini to be honest.
So you don’t say in your tear downs if you are able to get these devices back together and working? I always thought that was the purpose of a tear down, to repair it! What’s the use if you destroy it and don’t even try to get it back together? Maybe these should be ‘tear down and reassembly’ videos.
i desperately want to upgrade to this and switch to a mini ..but until it has an M silicon chip, prolonging its shelf life and extending its power, its nor worth it, yet
Looks Like they are using the speaker magnet for the speaker and to hold the Smart Cover at the same time that might explain why it stays behind when you remove the speaker.
The day after we filmed this, Apple made a statement to Ars Technica about the jelly scroll issue!
You can read their statement here: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/09/2021-ipad-mini-suffers-from-uneven-jelly-scrolling-in-portrait-mode/
Basically they say it's normal LCD behavior, which is true! It definitely could have been mitigated with a different display design though. It doesn't bother us too much, but what do you think?
I really can’t see it without slow motion, and it’s not like it’s something you don’t see until it’s showed to you. I really can’t tell.
Expensive and uncaring. Well samsung has my next purchase garanteed pretty much.
Typical Apple response.
I've heard that replacing the display on the new iPhones will disable Face-id. Do you know whether that is true?
@iFixit I've heard that replacing the display on the new iPhones will disable Face-id. Do you know whether that is true?
I literally can see his happy face when he found that pull tab immediately replaced by disappointment.
iFixit - the controller board orientation explains why there's jelly scrolling
Apple - you're holding it wrong
Apple should have put the camera at the top of portrait orientation, and then they could have truly said "you're holding it wrong".
Jelly scrolling has plagued many tablets that exist. The 2012 Surface RT also have jelly scrolling, no cap.
It IS at the top in portrait orientation.
@@Baer9471 iPad Air too
Actually, considering the position of the volume rocker is on top (so it becomes easily accessible when held in landscape) make me think that maybe Apple designed this iPad to be used mostly in landscape, maybe due to the lack of horizontal space it would have respect to any other iPad.
Nothing says we care about the enviroment like glued shut devices :D
The glue is alright, but the "this feature won't work if you repair it yourself" is another thing
@@houghwhite411 true :D
its for waterproofing u bozo
@@ussf-unitedstatesspaceforc7541
Are iPads water resistant? No.
Are adhesives required for ingress protection? No. Xperia Active of 2011 had an IP67 rating, had a toolless back panel, removable battery, and internals accessible with only a screwdriver.
@@ussf-unitedstatesspaceforc7541 never heard of a proper rubber gasket as well as a few well placed screws? they have been using them everywhere for a while now...
The refreshing of a display is always correlated with where the display controller is placed. You can even see it on the Apple Watches Oled display, where the control unit is on the right side of the watch housing.
When you are in a dark room and put it in theater mode and twist the crown, you’ll see the display coming to light beginning on the right side.
It’s the same thing.
Its just sad they decided to put the controller on side rather than the top for a device that will be primarily used in Portrait mode.
Zorba yes it gives me headache. On my mini 5 the jelly was in landscape which mostly used on media content one cannot see. Reading and scroll the web in portrait was fine. Now its a joke. Unusable for people prone to motion sickness. Who reads in landscape ffs. I use it one handed vertically.
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@@zorba4413 nobody uses tablets in portrait. Not even small ones.
OLED in 60hz or LCD in 90hz or more, otherwise it will happen eventually.
4:30 reminds me of the Framework laptop where you have the extra screws at the top inside of the laptop
I wonder what a Framework tablet would look like.
Hopefully they will make that far (and beyond).
I don’t think you want them to take tips from the iPhone team. I don’t feel like having a paired iPad screen.
Lol that is an excellent point, Apple Dolphin. I guess I mean ... take tips from the *good* parts of the iPhone design. :) -TD
What’s a paired Screen?
@@seha2306 Means the screen is serialized and the motherboard remembers the part number, so when you swap in a screen that doesn't have the same number, even if it's a transplanted one from another iPhone, it will still refuse to work properly.
@@hummingbird71so the ipad mini screen isn't serialised and synced with the motherboard? Would be good to know as I always do my own screen and battery replacements for my devices.
@@PatrickKaplin Apparently not.
It seems only iPhones have paired screens.
watching this video made me realize that how useful 3dpriters can be for repairing.
you can just design a tool that can only go in by a specified amount of MM. so you never run into the risk of cutting anything important :) you can dull the end with slight sanding before using it too
Wow, the USB-C connector not just modular but you can also easily access the contacts to clean them or bend them back if necessary, it would be great if other devices would use this type of USB-C connector.
Why they dont use two hex screws on the outside like on iphones ill never get.
wouldn't be surprised if that USB-C port has a chip for serialization to prevent people from replacing it, by disabling charging.
@@pietrmuffei8874 well iPhones use those screws to hold down the display, while iPads use adhesive…
Yeah it’s nice that apples used a usb c port like that! the middle comes out which is what usually needs fixing. And they didn’t solder it to the board like most android devices do.
@@WalterMan I like that move too, but it’s gonna be a PITA to get to the port. Hence why I’d like to see them use 2 screws on each side to mount the display
Thanks for a good video explaining the jelly scroll issue. Very educational!
It is not an issue since most tablets have this too
I don’t know why Apple is getting flack for this? It’s an LCD panel, they’re all like this. They didn’t even make a marketing push about now “next-gen” the screen is or whatever.
Yes, my tab s5e scrolling badly 😑
@@rjid8924 see
It’s pretty obvious that they intend it to be used horizontally like all iPads but it’s mini so it’s easier to hold it vertically like a phone
4:06 "This speaker is probably done speaking" That made me laugh 🤣
I never heard of or didn't notice this jelly scroll until recently when people were talking about it. Even though I now know it exists it just doesn't bother me, because I don't see it unless I am looking for it and I don't look for it.
3:22 sounds like cicadas are holding down that battery.
Yep. Thank you. Thought I was the only one
@@tracephoto1823 ditto!
"This Speaker is probably done Speaking"
Simple but Funny
Excellent explanation of the Jelly Scroll - You're very smart !
“This speaker probably done speaking” 😂😂😂. Great vid. It would be much nicer if you could zoom in more wen showing chips and accessory components.
Lol "the speaker is done speaking" got me in stitches!!
I'm waiting for the surface laptop studio tear down
That's on our radar! If we've got time for it, I definitely want to do that one.
The strong glue on the battery helps with chassis rigidity. Such a slim and big device is prone to a lot of flexing so don't be "dissapointed" that they used the glue. Be glad that it won't bend an flex like crazy.
4:06 "So, this speaker is probably done speaking" 🤣🤣
Love my mini 6. Perfect size. The jelly scroll you get used to within an hour.
Yusssss I’ve been waiting for this one!
Best battery tab pull I’ve ever seen! Bravo
Be nice to see Apple make an ethical device. I'm over the "thin at all costs" mentality where repair-ability and recycle-ability are sacrificed to make it a tiny fraction thinner. Really, as the world richest company, I'd have thought their engineers up to the challenge. I guess the marketing folks have greater sway. Though could be to do with the fact Apple makes most of it's money from hardware (massive markup compared to industry norms). So making it disposable and limited in life is the business model they choose.
Well, it's not about thin-ness at all. It's about profit, of course. This diverts all repair and service traffic to be first rather than third party. It's part of apples unethical and unsustainable closed "eco"system. They are actively engaged in defeating the right to repair, and even making major moves towards defeating ownership itself.
i'm curious just how much Jony Ive was holding them back in terms of form over function. seems they haven't deviated too far from his design work yet, but they may do.
@@kylezo Big call
They literally recycle old products if you give them to them tho
Would you rather it be heavy and thick ? It’s a impressive feat that they make such good things in so small of a package
plle says it cares the planet and E waist. But makes products are are incredibly hard to repair
Discovering that the USB-C port of the iPad mini 6 is freaking replaceable is already a big YES for me to get one used today.
The battery pulltabs sound is so satisfying 😀😀
The Jelly issue has been going on for years and years and years when using the iPad and other LCD screens. Tbh I have never realised it, I guess if you are actively looking for it you will see it. If you have to slow something down to slow mo for your eyes to see it then it really isn’t an issue. So idk why this is just “now” getting attention if it has been a known issue for years.
Yes exactly it's just a typical first World problem that people like to complain about. As you say jelly scrolling has been there for years and it effects even top of the range tablets like the Samsung s7 and the ipad pro 11 too.
Bought the repairing kit. Waiting for it to arrive 😇
There is a very good chance you will break your device, I would advise getting repairs from professionals
@@jeanbutinfrench I found out how hard it is to repair an iPhone. Regret the purchase.. anyway everything is a lesson..
I love how they color match their ports. ♥
It’s one thing they don’t need to do but I appreciate that they do it.. though I must confess that when replacing charging ports I don’t always use the matching color
I hate how they don't change their ports to USB-C
I almost bought an iPad mini because I love the size, but this video has convinced me not to. Thanks again ifixit, I'll buy more screwdrivers soon.
Why?
papers please
@@Deltanova93 he probably wants something without the jelly scroll issue and with more repairability?
Have the Ipad mini 6 and I really cannot notice the jelly scroll issue even after being told on how to replicate it. Maybe its just my eye. Literally nothing else can compete with it for the size though
@@Deltanova93 because it costs so much for something this small, and now it has jelly scrolling on a sad 60Hz screen.
It's just not worth it. Maybe next time when they release the iPad mini 7.
I can't stress enough how nice it is to have a warning for viewers about flashing lights. Thank you for that
Lol “a sorting tray!”
I’m like, ‘now this is Apple, you know better…’
I got my mini the week it launched and I still love it
You don’t want them to take tips from the iPhone Team. Personally, the iPad Team has been better at right to repair than the iPhone Team but maybe it has something to do with the iOS and iPadOS Team?
None of the engineers would want that, it's the marketing and business people that spring for locking down hardware components, making parts impossible to get, etc.
What was that heat pad used to soften the glue connecting the glass and screen assembly? I really would like to buy one.
iPad Air 4 had backlight bleed and now this… seems like Apple REALLY cheaps out on this design if it isn’t a Pro.
And the old design iPads don't have problems like that. There must be something wrong with the new team who design this. Remember the new Pro that bends? lol (I'm using iPad Mini 5 so I'm not a hater but I'm really curious what's wrong with Apple recently).
True!
My iPad Air4 has a worser display as my iPad 6th Gen. The 6th gen have a sharper and colorfuller display…. i sendet the Air4 back.
@@NinPossible the thing that is wrong with apple is called greed and deception.
@@eliazarmarcano5616 couldn't agree more. "Industry-leading displays " = jelly scrolls. Still a fan of iOS though (can't go back to Android now haha) 😂
I have both the Mini 6 and Air 4, tried to take slo-mo video of scrolling, tried scrolling long text on both, did not see any jelly effect. 🤷♀️
Only some have
Not everyone can see it. I know i can't. I barely noticed the difference between 60hz screen vs 120hz... That's why 120hz is just a gimmick for me.
Then you are using it properly.
@Joseph iphones and ipads bending was an actual issue which is why Apple fixed it 😂😂😂 Also jelly scroll can't be improved with software since it's a hardware fault
4:06 this speaker is probably done speaking 🔊 😁😂
Apple : yeah we knew already our new iPad mini will have this, all LCD display's have jelly.
Consumer : but most don't have this issue, beacuse they design it so it didn't have jelly.
Apple : hey listen, were apple, you gonna buy it anyway, we saved a few bucks, and makes our 120hz models look better.
Consumer: but...
Apple: one more thing..(shotgun sound)leave no witnesses....
And why my 2012 surface RT have jelly screen? Explain.
Ayyyyyyyyyy deez apple haters that hate for no reason
@@Baer9471 you well said it "2012" not 2021 almost 22....
@@anakinskyguy6582 ayy
Amazing insight. I never thought about how the phone refreshing can be improved.
Ahh...
"So this speaker is probably done speaking " 🤣
I think it is nitpicking now. We are saying the jelly effect is visible but only on a high speed camera.
People will always find something to be mad about lol been using the ipads for years and i didn’t notice what this jelly scroll is all about because, yes the ipads deliver and they work just as fine.
agree, I dont even know that it exist at the first place lol
Good to know that replacing a battery and that USB-C connector is easy now!!!
most people don't notice the jelly scrolling because they dont see things in slow mo and under normal speed you can't tell unless you look for it
Any serialization of the screen , battery or camera ? like in iPhone ?
If these parts aren’t paired, it will show us they Apple purposely go out of their way to hamper iPhone repair… since it’s a larger market than the iPad.
i really really love iPad mini 6. Thanks for the video that i can see inside of it . big battery
Thats the most satisfying pull tab ever
I think you are right about the iPad mini screen issue. It’s a such Smart explanation
That speaker design is downright hateful, why would you even do that?
More money for apple i guess...
@@anakinskyguy6582 that's the only reason I can think of. If the speakers go bad they can say "well the speaker is built into the unibody housing, and replacing it will cost $299"
If you have to do so much testing in order to even notice it then is it really a problem?
Great video! And the display refresh explanation 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Aaaahh! So it’s true, it exists! I have the iPad mini 6 and I didn’t notice that.
This jelly scroll thing is something I noticed on my iPad 3 back in the day. I thought that it was on all screens, but just very noticeable on my iPad because it was so big. In my head, it made sense, because I figured it had something to do with how the screen refreshes. Interesting seeing how the iPad Air compares to the mini here. Also, I would only notice the scrolling while in landscape, and mostly when swiping through photos, since the photos would not look perfectly square/rectangle as they were moving. But I thought it was something kind of funny to see, but I didn’t notice it otherwise. Generally I don’t see it on my current iPad (it has 120hz to be fair) and I saw it a little on a iPad 8 on display at Best Buy, in landscape I think. Cheaper panels might make it more noticeable, but I think it’s not a huge deal. Apparently some people get nauseous or dizzy with it, but I don’t know how true that is
Thanks for the flash warning, I really appreciate it as I have photosensitivity and I’m so thankful for a warning, as the few videos and movies I have seen with flashing have not given a warning and I ended up with a bad headache. Great vid! I love tear downs on technology! I might not ever do it myself and I could never stand to be in the room or area during a durability test or tear down on a brand new piece of tech, I still like to see what’s inside of it and how it works, keep it up!
I own a ipad mini 5, I will say, even in horizontal, the jelly scrolls is WAY less than mini 6 in vertical, so I will go for apple is using a cheaper screen than mini 5. So I guess I will wait for mini 7
Or get an IPad Pro 11 M1. That 120 hrtz screen makes jelly scrolling disappear 95%.
This is the only channel mentions the placement of the controller board may be why this effect happens. Very informational, thanks!
Ayo iFixit
Can you guys tear down a mouse? Obviously not a live mouse but maybe from Logitech or something? I'd be really curious to see what you guys would think about the repairability of mice.
I don't understand the jelly scroll issue. Do people actually notice during normal use? I've looked for it while using mine but haven't noticed at all.
Its extremely noticeable in portrait mode. Scroll through apple news or a reddit page you will see it. Returning mine.
@@zorba4413 yeah, I’ve tried that and I don’t notice anything and I’m really trying to see it. Again, if you have to go to an extreme to notice a problem then it really isn’t an issue.
@@joshuareveles if you don't notice it leave it at that and just enjoy your ipad mini 6!
Don't go looking for it, just enjoy it 👍
@@zorba4413 not everyone sees like you
If you have to show the issue at 5x slowness then it cannot be a huge issue. I have not seen a single video that can display this issue at 1x realtime...
Yes I agree, I have tried 10 ipad mini 6s in various stores, I never notices the jelly scrolling atall when I went on texts website, Apple store etc. Never notices it atall in normal use etc.
I am sure if I slowed it down x5 with a camera maybe then I would see it? But we don't use a ipad /tablet like that! We just use it normal etc, so personally I just don't see an issue here.
The Jelly Scrolling is Causing Nausea in my Case. It apparently triggers something called Vestibular Imbalance in Some and Causes Headache or Vertigo or Nausea while Scrolling.
Thank you ifixit i cant un see it now :)
Thank you for the photosensitivity warning!!
Honestly I never knew about that until now and to me it isn't a problem
Jelly is minor. Try a Tab s6. It will give you motion sickness. I didn’t notice the Skew on the mini until a whole bunch of articles popped up tbh.
Its not minor, very noticeable.
@@zorba4413 your wrong!
for Alot of people they don't even notice it, if you dekub look and slow it down then yes you will see, just like you will see it on 120hz pro motion displays to like the Samsung s7 and ipad pro 11 too.
I have tested 10 ipad mini 6 in a few stores so far, websites with lots of text and the apple store app, I didn't notice any jelly effect on any of the ipad mini 6s whatsoever! They all seemed fine to me. I am thinking of getting one actually, as I love the form factor it's superb.
@@zorba4413 and MOST tablets that exist have this jelly scrolling.
hahha when apple has problems doesnt matter but if samsung does it then its crap, thats why apple fanboys do exist.bendgate users also didnt knew about their bent iphones lol.
@@sergioyichiong7269 That’s because, as is typical, Samsung is far more consistent in rescuing failure from the jaws of success in terms of product quality. “Muh bendgate” isn’t the argument you think it is.
So basically the jelly scrolling is a non-issue because you had to go out your way to see it and use slow mo?
For some people, yeah! Others can see it without slow-mo and it can be distracting.
Have the Ipad Mini 6, and tbh even after seeing the video and how to replicate it.... I don't really notice it so I will just forget about it. For people concerned about using it while reading.... if you are using Slide to replicate a book, this is a non-issue even if you know about it.
The thing literally have no competition on its class anyway for people looking for 8" tablet, top-tier SoC, top-tier software support, top-tier screen, and don't mind spending money for it.
Totally agree with you. However, some will keep complaining. I was like: why don't you just buy a Samsung instead.
Yep,no android tablet comes close to the iPad
Tbh on my iPad mini I don’t notice the jelly scroll. The only time when I notice it is when I use my iPhone to record in slow mo
Just started a return for my ipad mini 6. The jelly scroll in portrait mode is way too noticeable to enjoy browsing content. I'm super bummed because I was really looking forward to this ipad mini refresh.
Sorry Englishis not my first language, is there other problems in the ipad, i want to buy it very much.. and it will cost me 583$ in my country even more... haha it's more than my salary for 2 month. so is portrait mode realy a big deal... cause i can't understand the whole video.. sorry for bothering u again.
@@naghamha2753 It depends how you primarily intend to hold it. If you are mainly going to hold in landscape then its not a big deal. Everything else about the ipad mini is fine, design, form factor etc. But since I was going to use this as a portrait oriented device, having the display controller mounted on the side causing the screen to have the "jelly effect" while scrolling is a huge deal breaker for me.
They should’ve kept the refresh lines vertical. That’s the orientation that people tend to be read text on the iPad.
Can't this be fixed with software update? Like to refresh one side slightly slower? Real question
Well done video.
Went to Best Buy and played with the MIni 6. The jelly scrolling was obvious and bothersome as was the scaling on the home screen. Also, the volume rockers are not user friendly. $499.00 for a paltry 64gb and another $59.00 for a flimsy cover and over $100.00 for the pencil. Apple continues to rip off their base.
Its really noticeable and you will never be able to fully enjoy it, that's why I'm returning mine.
@@zorba4413 I have the Mini 5 and don't have the issue.
@@ljacobs357 is because your iPad and other don’t have the lcd screen if apple knew lcd screen causes that issue why put on the iPad 6 but who knows plus android tablet has the same issue too with jelly scrolling but is not that obvious
I have a iPad Mini 6 and a 11" iPad Pro. The iPad Pro looks so much better and scrolls so much better but I wish it were smaller. I am still in my return period and I'm thinking of returning it. If I wasn't so steeped in the Apple ecosystem I'd replace my iPhone 14 Pro with a Galaxy Z Fold 4 and use that as my mini tablet.
unlike the previous ipad dont have this issue and this ipad is only new and i already seen an issue about scrolling type
Seriously, I went to the apple store multiple times and I always notice the jelly scroll when I played around with the mini. I love the tablet so much but I cant ignore it...
iFixit needs to re-do its reparability scoring. The rating presented for Apple products now, is at best a 'disassembly ease' score. Reparability is now hampered by Apple by means of parts unavailability, tools availability, documentation availability, and software locks. If an typical independent repair shop is denied the right-to-repair, then reparability score is zero. Also, the physical orientation of the display board is not related to the vsync orientation of the panel. A ribbon cable changes the orientation of the board vis-a-vis the panel. On the other hand, vsync orientation if perpendicular to viewing direction, can easily result in visible jelly scrolling.
Older tablets and computers with lcd monitors have a lot more jelly roll.
My 5th gen iPad Mini jelly scrolls a high-density text web page in landscape whereas it is barely perceptible in portrait. This is the alternate orientation compared with the 6th gen. I typically use my iPad Mini in landscape except when reading eBooks, so I would prefer 6th gen Mini LCD controller set-up.
Only 3 out of 10? What about the sorting tray?
Welcome to my recommended lol
So much space left, should give bigger battery or more camera
Will you make a short iPhone 13 teardown video?
Well placed warning
this ipad mini 6 is the same lcd as my old ipad mini 2 and therefore waiting for oled version to even consider upgrade. In my eyes there is no progress after all those years and I wouldn't be able to use my headphones lol. Nothing to see here
You will be waiting quite a number of years before apple do an oled screen if they ever do atall that is, it's not cost effective for them for starters avd if they did, the price would go up significantly! So I doubt they will do an oled display ever on the mini to be honest.
“This speaker has probably done speaking”😅😊
As much as I can't really think of a reason to buy this, it is pretty cute.
I guess you could use it as a reader and also pilots and captains love these kind of iPads for pocketable nagivation.
Good job 💐
can u add new battery inside the ipad?take out the old battery? give more juice?
So you don’t say in your tear downs if you are able to get these devices back together and working? I always thought that was the purpose of a tear down, to repair it! What’s the use if you destroy it and don’t even try to get it back together?
Maybe these should be ‘tear down and reassembly’ videos.
i desperately want to upgrade to this and switch to a mini ..but until it has an M silicon chip, prolonging its shelf life and extending its power, its nor worth it, yet
I have the air gen 4 with no scrolling issues
All I can think about is a meme saying he can hear my dreams/nightmares
Looks Like they are using the speaker magnet for the speaker and to hold the Smart Cover at the same time that might explain why it stays behind when you remove the speaker.
Thanks for the like.😀
3:26 Why did this make me laugh?
if you have to slow it down to actually see it is it really that big of an issue?
Awesome & Thanks :)
By the time you have to use slow motion to see it…. Says enough