The Reaction to Craig Counsell Joining the Cubs is SHOCKING | The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- We begin the hour laughing at Arnold Schwarzenegger appearing on the Manning Cast with his donkey and how the Mannings are succeeding as they build a production empire. Then we discuss the shocking outrage that is happening in Milwaukee as manager Craig Counsell is announced to be leaving the Brewers for their rival Chicago Cubs. Then Dan wants to throw sadness around the incredible Josh Dobbs win.
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Classic Stu taking a flame thrower to Wisconsin
As a diehard Brewer fan having grown up in Milwaukee, and an owner of a Craig Counsell jersey from when he was a player in Milwaukee, I will be forever grateful for him plucking us out of the depths of extreme mediocrity. Before Counsell, we went 30+ years of having no expectation of a winning culture or a successful season, and Counsell changed all of that.
But this still feels gross. I expected him to go to the Mets, as did most Brewers fans. David Stearns went there and we were happy he was "getting a chance to do it in the big time" and I bet that the Brewers fanbase would have thought the same about Counsell. Keep in mind that all things Chicago are hated by all things Milwaukee, most of all, the Cubs and the Bears. And because of the blind-sided nature of this announcement when our expectations were far, far elsewhere, only added to the hurt.
Is the hate rational? No. But sports fandom never is.
As someone who is from Wisconsin, lived in Milwaukee in my 20s, and now lives in Chicago I second all of this. It would have been fine if he went to the Mets. It's not fine that he went to the Cubs. Chicago takes everything from Milwaukee thinking it's just a suburb. They claim Am Fam Park is "Wrigley North".
So for Counsell to go to the Cubs is a betrayal of the community. I understand why he did it; I'm glad he's getting paid, but it is an emotional betrayal and he would have known that.
The anger and feelings of betrayal are not because he left but because of WHO he left for. I think just about every Brewer fan would have been ok with him leaving, but to leave for the Cubs just feels like a slap in the face. Him being born and raised in Whitefish Bay, growing up in and around the team and eventually playing for the Brewers, it just felt like he was forever going to be a Wisconsin legend and hometown hero. Now, it just feels like he threw that all away. I would have wished him success anywhere else, but not for the Cubs. It feels like a long-time girlfriend tells you she found someone else and wants to move on, and that someone else is your long-time, most hated enemy.
Craig Counsell is a two-time World Series champion and none of them were with Brewers.
@rapalbumdepot7648 Thank you for your input. Very astute observation 👍
@@kylecraig6789 we aren't talking about Cal Ripken Jr here
Stugotz's constant fake laugh sounds like an idling engine that the driver revs occasionally
That's how I would imagine vandalism would look in Kenosha
I wonder how Stugotz felt when Bellicheck left the Jets to the Patriots.
I would love a holiday show of stugotz reacting to jets history
Cote is a treasure😂😂 "landline" standing ovation!!
I really wanted to hear those two voice-mails. 😂😂
Mike ryans dad?
It's not that he left, or how he left, it's who he went to that is the problem. It doesn't seem like people understand how much the people of Milwaukee and Wisconsin dislike the people of Chicago and Illinois, it's not just about the Cubs and Brewers rivalry. The people of Milwaukee and Chicago are a lot closer than people think, and hate each other a lot more than people think. This goes beyond baseball, the part that pisses off a lot of Brewers fans is that he is giving the people of Illinois the satisfaction of stealing our manager and being able to rub it in our faces. If he went to the Mets, even the Cardinals, Reds, Twins, or whoever, no one is Wisconsin would care that much. I'm having a hard time putting into words how I feel about this, but it means more than just baseball.
Edit: Not sure why Stugotz is so obsessed with Kenosha. Counsell is from Whitefish Bay which is North of Milwaukee. Kenosha is a city and county halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee.
Go Cubs GO
GO Cubs Go
Hey Chicago What do you say?
Let’s take a trip to Wrigley North Today!
"Ass Park"
😂
It's that he left for the Cubs, out of nowhere. If every other piece of the story were the same and it was any other team, it doesn't sting that way.
How many times have they had the “do you listen to voicemails “ discussion? If you have parents, or relatives of a certain age, or make appointments, or have kids in school, you should be checking voicemails, very least for transcripts, but I need to listen when it doesn’t make sense like Billy mentioned
[0:00-6:19] Manning cast draws eyeballs
[6:20-12:37] Craig Counsell joins the Cubs
[12:38-18:29] Josh "The Passtronaut" Dobbs
[18:30-22:57] Low scoring games this season
[22:58-26:14] Crying while interviewing
[26:15-31:05] Landline phones and voicemails
[31:06-35:11] Useless sound montage
Dan, Stugotz & Greg Cote in Studio, Mike EP
Roy, Billy, Chris, and Tony in the Shipping Container
Salute to you
Arnie's tank is reportedly the same one he trained on in the Austrian military back in the 60s
Little behind but today's show has been great
12:20 Labamba burrito shoutout lol
For all the Brewers fans, when he returns it would be so cool to have the stadium be dead quiet!
Just a bit disappointed that Counsell left for Chicago. It’s gonna be weird seeing him in the Cubs dugout. But this is on the owner. Mark is a fucking cheapskate who didn’t pay up for the best manager the team has ever had. I don’t blame Craig walking away from a team he’s been connected with since his childhood. I hope he wins a World Series now, and the Brewers get a new owner who is willing to spend some money occasionally
Dan's impersonation of Stu 😅😅😅
How many people are on this show?
I called someone *Tyler* as an insult 😂
Ask Fred Hoiberg about leaving where you are beloved and move to a bigger better market (Chicago and the Bulls). He had a position that was basically an annuity, and I'll be surprised if he is there at the end of the contract.
If the Brewers hadn’t hired him off the street in 2015, he’d still be mired in the Cubs farm system as a AA manager in Poughkeepsie. I guess he forgot that. No loyalty to the fan base. No loyalty to the team. Piss off.
if he was working with the Cubs then he wasnt "off the street^ and maybe he had a good experience working there which laid the groundwork for coming back?
Imagine being so out of touch that you have the opinion that the cubs job is one of the 5 best market that matter???…. Clown
Mean this as nonpolitical, with no motivation or stance. The only reason I know Kenosha, WI or Parkland, FL is bc of the shootings, was just surprised Dan didnt steer away from those two polarizing places quicker
Can’t believe a former professional baseball player and manager would think the MLB is a business. How dare he gives his family generational wealth. Can’t wait to visit Wrigley North.
Mahomes did this to me in the Super Bowl vs 49ers by taking knees at the end. The worst.
A lot of the polls are not calls anymore . I participated in a couple because you get money for them not a lot but they are extremely skewed and not easy to fill out. An example they give you two political clips from the media then ask who are you voting for based off this clip 😵💫😵💫😵💫 and if you pick neither it then forces you to pick a candidate 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ that’s why I wouldn’t read too much into these “ polls “
Very similar lines between Rays and Cubs after Maddon left. Now Brewers to Cubs for Counsell. Who is the common factor
A ballclub that values good leadership from a manager is very smart in today's era
The movie scream could never happen today bc its based on orank calling landlines
Let's be clear. The Cubs and Brewers aren't rivals. A lot of people in Wisconsin grew up loving the Cubs.
Maybe don't give your manager permission to talk to other teams and sign him to an extension commensurate with his performance. Milwaukee did this to themselves.
Parkland has 1/3 the population of Kenosha
Keep choppin', keep workin', back to the drawing board, no excuses
Josh Dobbs is a true fan since he doesn't know the names of the O-Linemen...
Dan, Stu is further away from the studio, than Milwaukee is to Chicago. And way to skate over the rivalry between the two. If he goes to the Mets this does not happen.
Kenosha?
Only city besides milwaukee these assclowns know
Ethel Mermen plays Kenosha
As a life-long Cubs fan, I gotta say, it's been a good week.
Greg Cote is the man
Thankful, but he clearly left for money, not for it being a better job. I would say he owed the Brewers a chance to match the offer. If he did, I have no problem with it. If he didn't, its a bit of a betrayal.
Joshua jobbs is amazing
My God! Is Josh Dobbs already overrated? He’s merely a great BACKUP QB. That’s all. If anything , watching Dobbs makes it clear that it would behoove more NFL orgs to prioritize carrying a dual-threat backup QB at all times.
Craig Counsell was a heckuva ballplayer. Think David Eckstein. LOL look at me I am 40 years old acting like David Eckstein is still relevant.
Love these guys
David Ross should have been fired after the last game of the season.. the way the Cubs imploded at the end of the season, there was no way he was coming back and if he did he would have been fired mid season.
I love when Brewers fans cry.
Still plenty of bull**** roughing the passer calls with this new defense. QBs should just flop with every sack, and they could probably get into the red zone with out a single play.
these were thee worst takes by dan. do you not remember the LAST pick of the draft almost went to the SB. How did the Celtics ruin Rob Williams? If you think Dobbs is just done after being a backup, wait until you see him as an OC to HC (was for Big Ben under the surface) Ive listened religious, and never was all I wanted to hear from was Mike Ryan more
Leftwich...
Fandom is so stupid. People put too much emotions into their sports teams.
Unless you work for Dan your employer doesn’t give af about you! A good way to leave is anytime you like because that’s exactly what they’ll do when they want to get rid of you and that’s in corporate merica and especially sports.
As a lifetime Chicagoan with family and friends in Wisconsin, let me explain the regional landscape to you simply: Wisconsin (particularly northern Wisconsin) HATES Chicago. I once met my college roommate’s father, knowing I was a Bear fan, refused to shake my hand. I’ve known my roommate for years and the father didn’t talk to me til the day he died. There’s a real cultural hate up north. Milwaukee/Madison is filled with Chicago transplants and it’s not as intense-but the Wisconsin lifers are raised with Illinois spite. We (Chicagoans) don’t think about them much outside of hating the Packers.
At the end of the day, both die hard fan bases know that there’s no one definitively better in the business than Counsell. Cub fans have always respected him and knew Ross was bad this past year.
Lol. Wisconsinites with a life don’t “hate” Chicago. There’s some Cubs and Bears hate, but only morons hate the city of Chicago. Lots of love here for the city.
Madison and Milwaukee are, however, their own cities. Nobody here thinks of them as “Chicago satellites”. Perhaps that’s what Chicagoans think. The reason these cities don’t hate Chicago isn’t because they’re full of Chicagoans. It’s just because they’re not full of hicks who happen to hate all cities considerably larger than their own. Those same people hate Madison and Milwaukee too, and they’re not even “big”. This rural/urban schism should be familiar to someone from Illinois
Stugotz proves yet again that he doesn’t get “The Show”. But in this case I mean the MLB.
We’d have accepted the Mets for any number of reasons. There was a reasonable offer on the table to stay in Milwaukee. He told the fans to F ourselves.
Kenosha has nothing to do with it Stugotz.
LOL!!!! I enjoy laughing at Wisconsin/Milwaukee fans!!
As if you would accept less miney to stay with your current employer when another employer is offering you more.
As far as what you would accept, why would / should Counsell care what you would accept as far as who he works for, as it is not like you have any influence or input into such a decision.
Lost one community but gained a nation of communities! Cubs are World wide Milwaukee sorry not sorry !
Wisco hates Chicago first Rodgers leaving and now this smh lol
Wisco sisco
In the states, you can buy a tank, grenades, flamethrowers, I think even a fighter jet if you can afford it.
Josh Jobs
Why do you keep saying Kenosha.
Explain please, Did you mean White
Fish Bay.
Hee-Haw!
He's right
Jeepy para la calle!
His contract had just expired...why didn't the Brewers sign him to an extension with a substantial salary increase? Some fans are truly just fanatical idiots...Greg Cote included.
Get better informed. They attempted to extend Craig last year, but he didn't want to. Ultimately, Craig wanted to leave.
Gregorio Cotez to you. Greg Gregorious Notorious.
Counsell= FIB
Wisconsin’s a real place?
amazing that they talk about the Counsell situation with no idea beyond the headline of leaving one team to another, comes off as just basic uninformed talk radio trying to have a take for no reason
As opposed to the intelligent, worldly perspective of irrational hate of fans of one city towards another city????
Screw Craig Counsell
Aye Brewers, if y'all want Dave Roberts, you can have his sorry azz. I won't be mad at y'all At. All. Take him.
The useless sound montage is so brutal to listen to, because what they are saying is so useless
Syrupy nonsense
Clean up the language!
Let's be mad at the guy who moved from Wisconsin to Illinois. Whoop de damn do. 😂
The NFL is so boring. 3hrs long with 11 min of actual play.
someone tell my man Stu to stop drinking bottled water, get my man a water filter in the studio!!!
Oh yeah, baseball talk, let's go 😒🥱😴🤤.