Rechargable Battery & Charger - Buying Guide
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I bought Imedion 2100 mAh in febr 2010 (yes 2010!) and I'm still using them, haven't noticed any degradation yet. And today it's dec 2018. Nearly nine years and still working!
I also have a set of Eneloop 1900 mAh from nov 2015. Working perfect.
Now I also have Ikea Ladda 2450, but those are new from last month. No problem so far.
My charger is MaHa PowerEx MH-C9000 and I charge the batteries at 700 mA
PowerEX are normal NiMH Batteries 'NOT' low self-discharge. Imedion are "LSD" comparable to Eneloops have comparable capacity... however, they don't have the cycle life of Eneloops. Also charging with the 801D at 2000 mA really shortens the life of your AA Batteries... PowerEX 2700 can't so hot the skins pill off. Charge you AA with the soft charge 1000 mA setting. We have Enoloops that have been charged hundreds of times and still performing like new that went into service in March 2007. Our Imedion last use just under two years before heading out for recycling.
Very nice refresh on this subject. You made a similar one over a year ago if my memory serves me right. The timing is perfect, as I am looking to renew all my batteries.
Thanks once again for a very informative and excellent TNG presentation.
Making use of the ruclips.net/user/postUgkxcJ22tnHH9l1vjdIdEIG27iOG55P7LXI8 reconditioning plan, I just saved 2 auto batteries from being completely junked. The guides were very simple to follow. I wish I would have found this years ago! You may use the guide to recondition any battery type
The trick to charging batteries is to charge them on low amperage setting. By doing this they won't overheat and damage the cell. By using a smart charger this can be accomplished, this is what i have experienced when charging my own cells.
For all out there who get as much out of Matt's videos as I do, be sure to use his ordering links in the top description so he can get a little something for his trouble when we order our batteries (or whatever else he recommends).
Great job on answering any battery questions I had on purchasing a dependable set of batteries and charger.
I will definitely look into these options.
Might be time to update this video. Rechargeable batteries have gotten so much better in the last 7 years. Amazon Black and Silver would be my choice to include in a second test.
this was just great Matt! your videos simply nails it when it comes to things i didt know or understand. keep up the good work!
Thanks Matt! If I order one (likely) I'll be sure to use your links below. Thanks for all of the great videos!
I was seriously just looking at batteries for my speedlites. Perfect timing, Matt!
Matt thanks for the review as I was getting sick of dying batteries and dodgy chargers. I just ordered the MH-C800S as I don't need the 1 hour charge time and figure slower tends to make your batteries last better. I also have 8 of the Imedion's in the same order so they will be used for occassional strobist work when I am out and about and need batteries that actually work. Just another great real world review. Done in the new stuio as well. All the best
Matt you're a bloody mind reader! I've been looking for info on rechargables in the last couple o days, very handy thank you :)
All batteries have the memory effect, look up RC battery sites they are on the bleeding edge of battery tech all the time.
The whole reason you don't see a memory effect on Li-PO (The cheaper and easier to make version but slightly unstable) and Li-ON (the dearer and harder to make but is stable)
Is due to them requiring a chip to control the whole recharge phase so it only gives X amount of volts/amps and controls that to keep temps at normal rates.
The Ni-cad's etc don't need this chip
Thank you very much for sharing these tips.
The "Only up half the night" part made my morning :D
I used this PoweEX batteries, I think they maybe the best on the Market, highly recommend them.
After thinking about it, I believe your correct Sir.
Well done dispelling some of the NiMH / other rechargeable battery myths and thanks for all the great tips, Matt! A quick question: what's your experience with cycle times on your flashes with NiMHs? Do they stand up to the best lithium based disposables well enough? In Radio Control plane transmitters, I found Vapex 2900 mAh did extremely well, but am wondering if they would sustain high power flash cycling.
Thanks, Matt! Very timely. I was getting ready to order my customary Eneloops but will give the Imedions a try!
You mentioned a battery checker. I have had quite a few through the years but have never found one that was very useful. A battery will show it has plenty of power just to go down within a few flashes. The battery checker needs to show how much life is left on a battery once a load is applied. It makes a huge difference to be able to determine if a battery has a good charge vs. a battery that will hold up once a load is applied.
Loving my Eneloop and Apple battery (also make by Sanyo)
Thanks Matt!
A couple of things, for 2000mah Eneloops they work really good and for the latest Eneloops you can get 2,100 recharge cycles out of them. I can't speak for the high capacity Eneloops but they get 500 recharge cycles and the 2400mAh LSD Duracells get 400 recharge cycles.
I don't know about the batteries that were mentioned here but generally higher mAh capacity means less recharge cycles. They might be good for camera use but so far using Eneloops work just fine for me. Also negative delta v wasn't mentioned at all, that's a pretty important thing to know about when getting NiMH rechargeables, it avoids overcharging the batteries. For any light battery usage Eneloops are going to be the best, even in flashlights they work really well.
Thanks Matt...Very useful tips to choose the right batteries & charger.
Powerex 2700mAh will recycle a flash faster than eneloop. plenty of comparisons done
check the extensive test at the photography on the net forum
Thanks, you convinced me. I'm going to buy the Maha charger & Imedion batteries. I'll give the Sanyo Eneloop Kit to my mom.
Thank you very much for your advise I will get these battery an charger next week
this charger will charge any. I am not sure about other chragers - the one I used to have that came with eneloops did not have multi cells.
Across the pond, here in little old NZ, we have PowerEx, iMedio and Eneloop.
We also have Uniross (2100 or 2700 mAH), Plus Energy (2700 mAH) and Camelion (2300, 2500 or 2700 mAH). It would be interesting to see how they compared (in terms of the number of cycles they are capable of withstanding) with the others, as they all cost about the same to purchase.
Wow. fantastic video. Great info. Just what I was looking for.
perfect video buddy, was only talking about this the other day, as i still am using throw away batteries and cost me a fortune, are the brands you use aus only brands or world wide?
I agree about the Power EX batteries, they are quite good. I had purchased many and they lasted for quite a while. The charger I had as well, but sadly it gave up before the batteries did. I have a MH C9000 Powerex charger that I like much better. It can't charge as many batteries, but it has many cycles like break in for new ones cells, discharge, condition to revitalize old cells and fast charge at two amps. All four channels charge separately as well. It is made by MAHA as well.
I like how you explain this makes a lot of sense and the information is very accurate. Although I don't recognize your brands you saying. must be a British brand
***** I think Imedion originate in from Singapore.
The batteries that Matt is talking about are NiMH. The old NiCd batteries had horrible memory problems. The older NiMH had a bit of a memory problem, but the newer NiMH batteries that he is talking about have a better technology inside of them to prevent crystalline growth which reduces the memory effects significantly. I've used Eneloop batteries with quality chargers and not seen any memory effect. Eventually they get old, but I get 18-24 months easily. Even cheap Rayovac NiMH aren't that bad.
Marking the batteries in sets is a great tip :) thanks
Perfectly explained - as always!
Thanks Matt!
cheers matt - no these are world wide - I always put links in the caption - check it out
I've never suffered any problems with my eneloops,including the triple x ones.Infact I think they are superb.
Hello Matt
Have you used the Eneloop Pro batteries as yet?
Do you recommend them over the Maha Powerex batteries?
Can u update this one to 2019
I am about to get the mh-c9000 to replace my sanyo quick chargers. The reason behind it is, I think with the quick chargers they heat up the battery too much and reduce the charge cycles as well. But I dont need as many battries running as much as you do.
Thanks Matt, that was very informative, I'm much wiser on rechargeable batteries now!!
I am using nearly every day in my Video productions (after have tried out many different brands ( they all failed in my 2 Sony's Radio mics ) ...... till I discovered the Panasonic Eneloop Pro 2550 mAh ...these are very good !
Cheers Dave
Best battery video on youtube!
I use the Sanyo Eneloop. I got the nice kit that has the different sizes, adapters/spacers, & chargers. I didnt say anything last time but that cable behind you is bugging me the way it is run across the wall. It should be running parallel/flush over the edge of the desk, not just for looks but for safety reasons as well. Its a 2 minute fix.
see link in caption
I use Rayovac 1350 Mah batteries and they work well. I'll have to try the Powerex 2700 Mah. Thank you for this very informative video.
see caption - these are readily available in USA
Very useful info
Thanks Matt
what do you mean too much time?
thats kind of cool, I use a charger that has the display that shows the charge for each battery but it also has a tester on it so if one of the batteries its charging is bad it will say error underneath the battery thats bad
my eneloop XXX got hot charging as well. i'm never buying the XXX again, but i still like regular eneloops.
Useful information for me. Thanks !
Great vid. Very informative. Would you recommend these batteries for flashlights and if so which aa battery? Thanks.
Also a question, isn't the PowerEx the same as the Imedions? Or is it the size differential.
Thanks Matt, that was very helpful
Hi Matt. Excelent video thanks. Coyld you plz shed some light on what type (mah) og batteries to use for flashes and triggers. I hane a range from 2000-2700 mah.
Thanks for the great tips and review!
Very informative! Thanx for sharing...
Very nice I thought
Eneloop batteries
Were the way to go..
Perhaps now I will buy four of your recommended brand..
I just subscribed.
Keith
Outstanding. Thanks very much
Are these type of rechargeable batteries still safe to recharge when the protective casing has come off?
Excellent vid. Spot on
Great help matt!!!
Great instruction. Will any charger charge a high capacity battery if left long enough in the charger or will I need a higher capacity charger? My present charger is rated at 2.8-5.6 DC 700mA for AA batteries.
Great review and explanation Matt. My mind is now made up.
Do recommend any Li-ion rechargable batteries? I would rather invest in li-ion technology.
As an FYI to our aussie cousins sanyo eneloop was bought by panasonic and they have moved productions to China. Most if not all panasonic/eneloops in Australia are now chinese made and they errrrr have quality issues. Fair few aussies on the flashlight forums saying there chinese made eneloop cells suck goats oval dangling objects. So worth checking where the cells are made prior to buying.
Candle power forums have some testing comparing the japanese made cells to the chinese one and the chinese one do not fair well.
The panasonic / eneloops made in japan are mostly for their domestic market due to all sorts of anti trust issues with panasonic buying out sanyo battery division.
I get my gen4 eneloops from a contact in japan, not cheap which is why i was looking at this video for alternatives, but still my best option for quality batteries.
+wolfman011000 "not cheap" the understatement of the year... I almost fell off my chair when I saw the prices. If I can get a year out of a battery I'll be happy, at 500 cycles and 2 charges a week it's around 5 years, so nothing fancy required. I would rather carry 10 packs of 4 batteries than sell a kidney for 4 batteries :-D
+wolfman011000 We started using Sanyo Eneloop batteries at my tv station about a year and a half ago for wireless mics and IFB's. We had 2 sets: 24 white sanyo eneloops for dayside and 24 black sanyo eneloop pro's for nightside. The white sanyo's were rated for 1000 cycles; the black ones for 500. After about a year the black ones started giving errors in our Ansmann chargers, reading all zeroes and not charging. We got more to replace them, but they were the PANASONIC Eneloops. The Panasonics started giving errors after only about 6 months! Meanwhile, the white Sanyo Eneloops are still working for the most part. In fact we've had to replace all of the black Panasonic Eneloops AGAIN using what was supposed to be the replacements for the white Sanyos. Unfortunately they are all white PANASONIC Eneloops, so I doubt they will last as long as the white Sanyos, but I'm pretty sure they'll do better than the black/pro Panasonics.
On another note, I tried the "failing" black Eneloops, both the old Sanyos and the newer Panasonics in a LaCrosse BC700 charger and they seemed to charge normally there, so I'm a little suspicious of Ansmann chargers as well!
I still have my rechargeable batteries for 5 years now and they still work perfect.
What brand battery you use?
And what charger?
Really good to hear telling people to marry sets of batteries. It's vital with Lion batteries in vaping
HOWARD B. Cuz
I NEVER heard of Eneloop Pro suffer from the problem you talked. It´s the first time. In fact they are considered some of the best of the world.
Now you have
@@mattgranger Ahahahah :)
The Powerex Rechargeable 2700mAh are Rubbish did not last even two years with very little use
very informative video, thank you
Duracell rechargeable batteries are the best right now , I like to think so.
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The problem with high capacity cells, is they just don't last long before they go bad. I have old Panasonic AA and AAA cells and they are still going after 10 years. I have Powerex High capacity AAA cells and they went bad after two years, so if you need the higher capacity then get them, but keep in mind they don't have as many recharge cycles as the standard capacity cells.
thaxs matt i've its VDO nice guidline. nicely thank you so much
Seems like ur marketing for maha lol. But nice video. Would've liked more options in battery/charger and some prices.
Should I mixe battery of various brands but same size and rating, eg :AAA nihm 800 GB and energizer brand
slow charge can de more dangerous than fast charge, beacouse fast charge is terminated as long as -dv event happens ( battery slightly reduces it's voltage ) indicating full charge. Charging batteries lower than c/3 rate (more than 3 hours) can lead to -dv event never happening, so charger will overcharge batteries, shortening their cycle life. Basically 16 hours dumm chargers do exactly that, hoping that battery will tolerate overcharge at c/10 rate for at least 5 hours (16-11 to full charge and to companste batteries having non-ideal current efficiency)
I also have those triple x sangyo eneloop. Havent had this problem yet but i dont use them as much so that might be why :p
Battery analyser info ?? Would be good to see. I currently have eneloop. But may on vest in one mentioned in video. Bigger bank of charging space seems good. Currently only got the 4 space charger for Sanyo.
do you ever "top off" batteries that were fully charged but sat around for a month unused?
Have you tried Fujitsu AA HR-3UTHC 2450mAh (Black) DSC_8341. They come highly recommended also.
Nope.
How about a good charger for different size batteries AA, AAA, B, C
Have you tried the charger`s conditioning function to bring back failing/dead batteries?
What about the Amazon brand rechargables?
pretty informative Thanks!
Hello Matt, thank you so much for this video. I am looking at 4 maha cells for my flash from the link you have given in your video. I already have a energizer AA charger, do you recon that I can use this to charge the Maha cells? Please let me know.
Please share the battery analyzer with us.
thank you for the info
What do you think to Annsman 2850mah
If you aren't in a huge hurry The 800s unit works the same but takes two hours to charge the batteries, and the slow method is 4 hours, giving the batteries a longer life
Ansmann,s are the most powerful and the best in the market . I have 7 sets of them ( 28 single batteries )
which battery tester is it you use
I just ordered 12 Sanyo Eneloop batteries Sunday from B&H Photo! :-(
so many people recommend those Sanyo Eneloop batteries.. Im guessing they are decent..