I heard from friends teaching me that 2 things can’t trigger of the same event in Asoiaf. Just wanted to clarify if activating tommen order on claim bags and then replacing with bribery is an actual thing I can do. I have an event on june 1st and might use this trick. Move happened around the 21min mark. Thanks for any help, good game guys as always!
Jeroen: Hi Adam, your friends are right however the interaction with Tommen and playing one of his cards is possible. So to give you a bit of help I have chopped down the steps. - Tommen actives - Tommen claims the wealth zone - You as player decides which effect goes first. So that can be the zone or Tommen. In this case you do Tommen first. - After using Tommen you will use the wealth zone but, you replace the zone with the Bribery card. If you would need more clarification see page 21 of the current rulebook. On there you will find what is possible and what isn’t.’ Hope this helps :).
@@RotterdamWhiteScars You need to declare both effects, the moment you claim the zone. On that time you don't have the card to play, so you can't declare the effect. So it can't be declared as all effects needs to be declared BEFORE starting resolving any of them. So you played that uncorectly as you can't take Bribery from the token and play it in the same activation. Also NW didn't take dmg from the stakes in the middle.
Jeroen: @@pawemalon2502 not sure about that when it comes down to Tommen. Then again for this game players played it how they thought they should play it. We were just the observer in this video ;). Further the NW isn’t taking the dmg for the stakes because, the unit that moved on them are Ranger Trackers. They have the pathfinder ability which means they are ignoring the dangerous and rough keywords.
@@RotterdamWhiteScars It was widly discussed with Tommen, and yes, you can't take bags, get a card, play it immediately, because upon declaring effects you don't have card in your hand and per rulebook you have to declare all of your effects first. i wish CMON clarified this case, lot of people stumble on it (same goes for Casterly Rock Honor Guard and Merryn Trant)
FYI, your intro speak only plays on the right speaker. Thought you where muted, as I only had left er covered and intro music played, but there came no speak :-D Rest of the video seems to play nicely.
Jeroen: Well during these big events the pressure is always on ;). Nevertheless I heard from him that he had a blast and you all will see him definitely back in the near future!
Jeroen: So I have just checked the video since YT studio gave me another thumbnail 😅. No the list that you see should be 40 pts. I have attached the lists in the description from this video. Hope this helps. Concerning your question about the cards. The players were playing with the correct 4.0 cards.
@@RotterdamWhiteScars in the editing she moved from the beginning of the round until her activation very slowly towards the letter-zone. i was just a bit confused and amused about it.
Jeroen: @@Karlsson_vom_Dach in that case something went wrong with the animation :(. Anyhow thanks for noticing that. I will definitely keep an eye on it with our next videos!!
Great to see Hits and Crits Community members participating Lowlands GT!!!
Jeroen: Well we were happy to have them on board :D!! Hopefully next time more will join in on the fun!!
Lovely work lads! Keep them coming 😄!
Jeroen: Thanks Daniel! We will!
I heard from friends teaching me that 2 things can’t trigger of the same event in Asoiaf.
Just wanted to clarify if activating tommen order on claim bags and then replacing with bribery is an actual thing I can do. I have an event on june 1st and might use this trick. Move happened around the 21min mark.
Thanks for any help, good game guys as always!
Jeroen: Hi Adam, your friends are right however the interaction with Tommen and playing one of his cards is possible. So to give you a bit of help I have chopped down the steps.
- Tommen actives
- Tommen claims the wealth zone
- You as player decides which effect goes first. So that can be the zone or Tommen. In this case you do Tommen first.
- After using Tommen you will use the wealth zone but, you replace the zone with the Bribery card.
If you would need more clarification see page 21 of the current rulebook. On there you will find what is possible and what isn’t.’
Hope this helps :).
@@RotterdamWhiteScars You need to declare both effects, the moment you claim the zone.
On that time you don't have the card to play, so you can't declare the effect. So it can't be declared as all effects needs to be declared BEFORE starting resolving any of them.
So you played that uncorectly as you can't take Bribery from the token and play it in the same activation.
Also NW didn't take dmg from the stakes in the middle.
Jeroen: @@pawemalon2502 not sure about that when it comes down to Tommen. Then again for this game players played it how they thought they should play it. We were just the observer in this video ;).
Further the NW isn’t taking the dmg for the stakes because, the unit that moved on them are Ranger Trackers. They have the pathfinder ability which means they are ignoring the dangerous and rough keywords.
@@RotterdamWhiteScars It was widly discussed with Tommen, and yes, you can't take bags, get a card, play it immediately, because upon declaring effects you don't have card in your hand and per rulebook you have to declare all of your effects first. i wish CMON clarified this case, lot of people stumble on it (same goes for Casterly Rock Honor Guard and Merryn Trant)
Jeroen: @@claw_and_fangI fully agree upon! Hopefully in the future they will :).
FYI, your intro speak only plays on the right speaker. Thought you where muted, as I only had left er covered and intro music played, but there came no speak :-D Rest of the video seems to play nicely.
Jeroen: Thanks for letting us know!! I have no idea how that happened but, we will keep an ear on that for the next one!!
Played against Gabo too. A very clean player with few mistakes. Very hard to play against.
Jeroen: I know exactly what you mean Killian :).
If I were playing with the guy on the left, i would question his distance measurement .Totally by eye and a little pushing (stealing some distance)
Jeroen: If you indeed think that would happen it is good to keep an eye on it :).
I sincerely believe that the Lannister player was more worried about not losing than anything else...
Jeroen: Well during these big events the pressure is always on ;). Nevertheless I heard from him that he had a blast and you all will see him definitely back in the near future!
Was there a slight points change as when I put the nights watch army into the builder it came out as 41 points?
Jeroen: Yep this video was from the previous edition of the game. So back then the units, attachments and NCU were different in point cost.
@@RotterdamWhiteScars ah okay, that means the cards aren’t updated either. As the NW changed quite a bit.
Jeroen: So I have just checked the video since YT studio gave me another thumbnail 😅. No the list that you see should be 40 pts. I have attached the lists in the description from this video.
Hope this helps. Concerning your question about the cards. The players were playing with the correct 4.0 cards.
Ah so you said a unit of ranger trackers and then a unit of ranger vanguard, but it was just two units of ranger trackers. Points make sense now.
what is shae doing in the second turn ^^
Jeroen: I think she gave out a weaken token 😅.
@@RotterdamWhiteScars in the editing she moved from the beginning of the round until her activation very slowly towards the letter-zone. i was just a bit confused and amused about it.
Jeroen: @@Karlsson_vom_Dach in that case something went wrong with the animation :(. Anyhow thanks for noticing that. I will definitely keep an eye on it with our next videos!!