It's interesting that the "Suggestion" mechanic is a trigger that happens when one or more of your creatures deal combat damage to one or more players. Hitting with a double-strike creature or with one normal and one first-strike creature means that you would get two suggestions out of one combat.
Hey. Hot tip: Go dust off your copy of clue, throw the board out and play magic with the handful of additional rules they sold for $80. It's the same. Want a spicier tip? Have your friends write/draw the clues onto dry erase token cards from Card Kingdom. Also the same--just potentially less overhead. Yw, yw. 😉
Actually getting to play this is really a blast. I do sincerely recommend this thing to anyone who wants a weird variant to their gameplay. Fun with commander too!
And because the Suspect, Weapon, and Room cards aren’t used as Magic cards, you can just use the cards from a standard Clue board game if this product is out if print by the time someone stumbles on this comment.
An interesting mechanism we chose to play with is once per turn you can play one of the clue cards you received at the beginning of the game. This allowed the information to be more open and political if the game became static or to add chaos to the game.
I haven't started the actual game yet but I'd love to see a variant of this where you're allowed to play your clues if you want to. I think the tradeoff between card advantage and revealing clues could be interesting to evaluate.
To back up graham's statement about taking notes about other people's guesses, I have won games of clue 5 turns ahead pf everyone from the information they are asking for. And my own known information, it is a viable strategy, but it can piss off your friends on game night if you win 2 games in a row
If nobody ever sprinkles in their own known cards, and only asks about cards they haven't ruled out yet, it's a huge source of information. If you ask XYZ, then XYA the next turn (after being shown something) it's an easy assumption that whoever proved it false holds A and you don't have any of XYZA, but it's not certain. In regular Clue, you have to ask in clockwise order every time, so repeating a suggestion will get you nowhere. In the MTG version, you can just, not attack the player you asked last time, so the fact that they actually showed you Y not Z won't stop you from asking about A and X while hiding that you don't know Z yet.
45:23 isn't 3 colour more likely than 4 colour? better worded as "the chance that 2 pairs of colours have exactly 1 matching colour is higher than 2 pairs of colours have no matching colours, where there are 5 colours"
Would you believe, that this is the second gameplay video in a row, that I have watched, that mentioned "Take Five"? I find that interesting and strange. I guess that it is a significant piece of 20th century culture.
Similarly, in the Netherlands, people (roughly) pronounce it Clu-ay-do here. Although I get the impression that's not because that's the correct name, but because people had to figure out on their own how it's pronounced and just assumed that was how. The actual name is a portmanteau of 'Clue' and 'Ludo', so the correct pronunciation is almost certainly the English one.
House Rule: Your hidden cards begin in your Command Zone. They may be played as if they’re in your hand. Keep in mind, if you play them, you give your opponents more information.
So this is this just the set edition jumpstart, with a shockland, and some clue stuff? The marketing calling them “ready-to-play” boosters feels really scummy considering normal packs are now called play boosters.
I...I think it's worse than the set edition because, as we saw, the common/uncommon cards are generally old, bad cards from old Rav sets. At least w/ 2024 cards you're playing 2024 magic. It's like they have had a "set theme booster/jumpstart" product slot open for the past 5 years and keep throwing anything they can at it to make it work. This slot was filled with what amounts to a secret lair/jumpstart box.
My thought is, make proxies of all the Clue pieces: Suspects, weapons, rooms. Then make a Commander deck for each Suspect, using each Suspect as a Commander. After all that is done, play a Commamder Clue game with only Suspects as Commanders. The restrictions on the rules for deckbuilding are: No milling players out, no combo wins, and Commander damage doesn't count. Each player begins at 30 life.
I bought this overpriced box and now kinda regret it. I only really wanted the Peacock card and my son wanted Emissary Green. We thought about playing it but the packs felt really uninspired so we didn't bother. There was nothing in our 8 packs of interest. Happy I got a Stomping grounds though.
You’re not at least going to try to play it? I find that my opinion on games change as I play. You might not like it, but you could realize you enjoy it. And you already spent the money on it.
So now we need to play an Commander game with an Archenemy, while Planechasing, Exploring Ixilan, and solving a murder mystery.
...while also cosplaying as heroes of Dominaria
DeStark appearances are always top tier, i am also a bog witch in a long term relationship with a trekkie
DeStark is my favourite of the dragon marked houses
New Wheeler thumbnail art dropped? Love it!
A couple of videos ago actually. Jokingly, he commented it with "They called my Hot Wheels for a reason." :D
35:51 Graham is the best when it comes to awkwardly putting the EmPHAsis on the wrong SylLAble
It's interesting that the "Suggestion" mechanic is a trigger that happens when one or more of your creatures deal combat damage to one or more players. Hitting with a double-strike creature or with one normal and one first-strike creature means that you would get two suggestions out of one combat.
Aww someone appreciates me pointing out the pipe poster all night! People kept walking in and missing it.
Hey. Hot tip: Go dust off your copy of clue, throw the board out and play magic with the handful of additional rules they sold for $80. It's the same. Want a spicier tip? Have your friends write/draw the clues onto dry erase token cards from Card Kingdom. Also the same--just potentially less overhead. Yw, yw. 😉
Actually getting to play this is really a blast. I do sincerely recommend this thing to anyone who wants a weird variant to their gameplay. Fun with commander too!
And because the Suspect, Weapon, and Room cards aren’t used as Magic cards, you can just use the cards from a standard Clue board game if this product is out if print by the time someone stumbles on this comment.
yeah the weird strategies that pop up are wild like suiciding your board because you think you know it
@@kwakerjak Or out of price range and you have a copy (or 2) of normal Clue(do) lying around the house.
An interesting mechanism we chose to play with is once per turn you can play one of the clue cards you received at the beginning of the game. This allowed the information to be more open and political if the game became static or to add chaos to the game.
Ooooh that's clever.
Nice.
I haven't started the actual game yet but I'd love to see a variant of this where you're allowed to play your clues if you want to. I think the tradeoff between card advantage and revealing clues could be interesting to evaluate.
I think this whole process is needlessly convoluted. Play Magic, or play Clue, not this merged abomination.
Thank you Paul for mentioning that Mark Williams also plays Peterson. That's always the first role I think of for him.
I could see the restraint on Wheeler's face to not make the Kingpin ladder sound after mentioning him
Wheeler’s reaction at the beginning as Graham was explaining the characters is how I was feeling too.
Clue is actually called Cluedo in the rest of Europe aswell, not only UK.
If only Scuttling Sentinel had flavour text. It could be 'I'm a scuttler, sir. I scuttle.'
To back up graham's statement about taking notes about other people's guesses, I have won games of clue 5 turns ahead pf everyone from the information they are asking for. And my own known information, it is a viable strategy, but it can piss off your friends on game night if you win 2 games in a row
If nobody ever sprinkles in their own known cards, and only asks about cards they haven't ruled out yet, it's a huge source of information. If you ask XYZ, then XYA the next turn (after being shown something) it's an easy assumption that whoever proved it false holds A and you don't have any of XYZA, but it's not certain.
In regular Clue, you have to ask in clockwise order every time, so repeating a suggestion will get you nowhere. In the MTG version, you can just, not attack the player you asked last time, so the fact that they actually showed you Y not Z won't stop you from asking about A and X while hiding that you don't know Z yet.
ive been really looking forward to seeing someone play this, heck yeah! 👀
"If" I am watching this on RUclips? It is my social media addiction of choice. Also, I like Magic and LLR, so here I am.
1:09:32 The Netflix cartoon incarnation of Carmen Sandiego (fantastic show) was pretty much a detective.
Also a secret agent and Robin Hood.
All LRR line ups are excellent, but this is a stellar one. Would love to get this cast in again.
45:23 isn't 3 colour more likely than 4 colour?
better worded as "the chance that 2 pairs of colours have exactly 1 matching colour is higher than 2 pairs of colours have no matching colours, where there are 5 colours"
Yes, though both are considerably more likely than 2 color. And mono and domain are obviously impossible.
55:30 No love for Neil Patrick Harris? Cmon now
This was such a cool product idea with such a bad structure. It's fun to watch y'all play it, though!
I remember when Ultra Pro released the first decent card sleeves, sometime around 95-96, good times.
Would you believe, that this is the second gameplay video in a row, that I have watched, that mentioned "Take Five"? I find that interesting and strange. I guess that it is a significant piece of 20th century culture.
Delightful as always!
I like how the evidence giver gets a treasure; it creates interesting incentives around blocking.
BABE WAKE UP NEW THUMBNAIL ART DROPPED
opened up 4 boxes of clue edition and one of them was the white selesnya pack.
Kathleen looks a bit like Julia from the Netflix Carmen sandiago
Play with Ravnica themed commander decks for extra fun.
I think all suggestions should have been made in the form of "hear me out, wouldn't it be crazy if..."
Updated Wheeler art!
shock the pizzard
I've been waiting for this since it was announced! HYPE.
Y'all make this look *way* more fun and interesting than the WeeklyMTG guys did
It's Cluedo in Sweden as well, but the "e" is normally pronounced (as a Swedish long "e", roughly as in English peer).
Similarly, in the Netherlands, people (roughly) pronounce it Clu-ay-do here. Although I get the impression that's not because that's the correct name, but because people had to figure out on their own how it's pronounced and just assumed that was how. The actual name is a portmanteau of 'Clue' and 'Ludo', so the correct pronunciation is almost certainly the English one.
Liking and subscribing and commenting -- I'm a triple threat!
House Rule: Your hidden cards begin in your Command Zone. They may be played as if they’re in your hand. Keep in mind, if you play them, you give your opponents more information.
How is it odd for a magic product to use magic cards? It'd be far stranger for the clue cards to not be magic playable.
One of those instances where there is always a way to frame things negatively if you are looking to do so.
I hadn't realised Cori sported such a MANE! O:
Graham is Dick Van Dyke from Diagnosis Murder
*Random* *Packs* ? I really hate that from a "boardgame"
graham look like this one Canadian skit comic i know of his name is graham stark
I suggest Graham embodies the visage of Tintin.
Do a commander night with the Suspects!
G kinda looks like Rufus Cotesworth from Death and other Details
take five is the best song like by far
So can I pay 2 and sacrifice this Ravnica to draw a card orr?
So this is this just the set edition jumpstart, with a shockland, and some clue stuff? The marketing calling them “ready-to-play” boosters feels really scummy considering normal packs are now called play boosters.
I...I think it's worse than the set edition because, as we saw, the common/uncommon cards are generally old, bad cards from old Rav sets. At least w/ 2024 cards you're playing 2024 magic. It's like they have had a "set theme booster/jumpstart" product slot open for the past 5 years and keep throwing anything they can at it to make it work. This slot was filled with what amounts to a secret lair/jumpstart box.
So really, you could keep the Clue bits, and play with any Jumpstart product, right?
My thought is, make proxies of all the Clue pieces: Suspects, weapons, rooms.
Then make a Commander deck for each Suspect, using each Suspect as a Commander.
After all that is done, play a Commamder Clue game with only Suspects as Commanders. The restrictions on the rules for deckbuilding are: No milling players out, no combo wins, and Commander damage doesn't count. Each player begins at 30 life.
Why is it so expensive 😔
Of course Wheeler got the best guilds.
Ravniclue
Would have been funny if it was breeding pool
$75 for this is ridiculous. glad i got it off someone for $30 😭
Don't you know you gonna shoctopizard?
If no one say j'accuse I'll be most disappointed
00:30:52: So how does Kathleen pay 4 Mana by tapping a Selesnya Guildgate, one Plains and one Island? 🤔
haven’t checked but treasure probably
By using the treasure she said out loud she was using
I bought this overpriced box and now kinda regret it. I only really wanted the Peacock card and my son wanted Emissary Green. We thought about playing it but the packs felt really uninspired so we didn't bother. There was nothing in our 8 packs of interest. Happy I got a Stomping grounds though.
You’re not at least going to try to play it? I find that my opinion on games change as I play. You might not like it, but you could realize you enjoy it. And you already spent the money on it.
Don't buy a boardgame just for the chance of a couple cards. The point of it is to play the game.
War Screecher is a worse creacher
Meow
ugh, they read the rules and are still playing it wrong