It's definitely too long to worry about Chadwick in a sequel, but seeing how things played out for Bo Callahan could be interesting. Boseman could be noted as having a 6-8 year career, where he featured on the Browns defense (make him Miles Garrett), project out Stefanski having 2 of 4 winning seasons to make Cleveland a solid team that still didn't win it all, but tell the other story. Bo Callahan comes in, wins the Super Bowl in his second season, but as the team shifts towards leaning on him to carry the team, the team is never again quite good enough to actually make it back again. Make that "none of his teammates came to his birthday party" innuendo (I think folks tried to cover and he simply took the hit because he could) an actual crux point in the movie. Bo Callahan being a bad teammate and not a leader of men, ends up seeing him get an opportunity with a new team, and his new QB coach... Brian Drew, of Draft Day shenanigans fame. The QB with all the ability in the world without the leadership skills, learning from the QB coach who had the great leadership makeup in his time, who looked to max out whatever ability he did have in his time. Make it a redemption story for Bo Callahan.
@@edwarddegalan107 it is a good deal for the jag. they get to stockpile picks and if they see someone they like later in the first round they can use those 2's to trade back up. Losing your 3 first round on a qb your not sure off with a qb in your organization that can be good that season sound like hugely terrible trade. Especially in the last minute. they should already have the book on the guy and know he a sure thing Otherwise you be like the brown getting Deshawn watson or the viking for hershell. Some trades are just not worth it.
I watched this movie in the theater in Cincinnati with the family of the Browns GM at that time. I always thought it was funny that a sold out theater had no idea they were sitting with the actual Browns GM's family.
Value is value, 🤷🏾♂️. I don't fully understand how all those tables are figured out, but folks under this video have basically said that three 2nd round picks is basically worth about the #10 pick in the first round. No idea what the points value margin is between #10 and #6, but if you're avoiding drafting a QB you've been convinced is a lemon, that margin maybe insignificant
@@igweugo Really well said. Plus, we've seen picks in the teens, not 6th overall, but not too far off either, go for two future 1's and a 3rd. I think 3 2nd rounders, and potentially HIGH 2nd rounders at that would be worth a, 11th or 12th pick, especially if you really wanted to move off it like you said
@@igweugo- The Rich Hill draft Value chart is very accurate. Pick #6 is worth 446 points there. Browns were taking #7 in the 2nd. Future picks are widely accepted as worth half of their mid round value. With 32 teams, pick 16 is the mid round, and is worth 121 points, so a future 2nd is worth 60.5 points [half the mid round]. Two are worth back up to the 121. 121+ 153 = 274 in exchange for 446 worth of points? No. This was terrible. The counter offer asked by the Jaguars of 4 2nds, and giving full mid round value would make it a slight edge to the Jags in the deal. If you have the more valuable pick, you NEVER lose value in a trade. You do not take an item worth $100 and trade it for 100 items worth $1. The counter offer wasn't good enough when you give full value to the picks, and they took even less.
@PaulGaither -Draft Day was a 2014 movie (logic would have you looking at the Rich Hill, or Jimmy Johnson, draft value charts from 2013 or sooner, and not chart of today) -the rookie GM of the Jacksonville Jaguars was in a situation where he had been spooked into being stuck having to draft a lemon and was looking to get out of the pick. How close to full value can you get to not be compelled to draft a lemon at #6? Jimmy Johnson puts the value present value of the haul at about #20; Rich Hill puts the present value of the haul at about #22; JF puts the present value of the haul at #10. In a fire sale situation... that's not a bad haul (even your Rich Hill value chart has the #6 and #7 picks in the 2nd Rd of the current year being worth enough to move back up to #15 if needed) Nice try though
@@Kmkats I think the, I don't know what are they called, screen writers? (or whoever writes the dialogs between characters in movies) did this mostly so the audience learns what is going on. Logically (and professionally), the people involved in these scenes should know exactly what is going on, but the audience doesn't. I have read many comments in various clips from this movies where people talk in very precise football language. I am not from the U.S. but I like watching American football games from time to time but I don't know much about the rules, the positions, etc. My knowledge of the sports basically boils down to each team having 4 attempts to move the ball 10 yards before refreshing the number of attempts and try to get it to the scoring zone. So for someone ignorant of the sport rules like myself, the movie did a good job entertaining me. However, I do like computer games and when I watch movies or TV shows where games are portrayed and I see obvious errors, I too react in the same way many football savvy watchers reacted to this movie. Bottomline, this is a movie, not a documentary.
@ Totally understand being a non American and wanting to understand the game more. But I will say with this scene in particular there is a very easy way to not make the character look foolish within the world of real football while simultaneously making a effort to explain the scene with his dialogue. Rather then asking who was picking next which would be a fireable offense for a NFL GM not to k know, he could simply announce himself who’s picking next. Easy fix.
That’s the least believable part of this whole scene. Ruins the immersion. Every GM believes he’s the big swinging dick manager on the block. Even the losers. They would get anywhere near the job if they weren’t absolutely sure they’re some sort of gridiron General Patton.
The Rams pick #2 and "went with their expected pick" Meanwhile in Jax, sitting at #6..."The Rams took my pick! Everything's out of whack!" Turns out Carson IS a donkey
As an NFL draft lover this movie had so much potential. Unfortunately the trades were so bad that the only way they would go through is in Madden with the ol change to punter then change position back after the trade routine.
How I would have written it.... Allude to the fact Sonny had drafted a great return specialist a few years earlier. He keeps saying that he's the best return man in the game. Everyone says he's good but he's no David Putney. Fast-forward to this scene, and the Jags GM says I want three years of #2's AND your punt returner. They make the deal and Sonny gets Putney in the Seattle trade.
I actually liked this movie. But I don't think it's very realistic. Who would give up the #6 pick for 3 second round picks? And why wouldn't you take BO just because some other GM said he thinks he's a bust?
It’s funny seeing a lot of the comments talk about how unrealistic it is somehow no GM would do this. It’s a movie and enjoy it for what it’s worth. I’ve watched it multiple times and love it.
Most people cant enjoy movies if the plot only moves bc people are incredibly dumb...unless its a comedy...which is why people jokingly claim this is a comedy
The movie is supposed to be about the 2014 draft, yet for some reason they keep using the draft boards from the 2013 draft, with the Ravens and 49r's having the last two picks since they were in the Super Bowl after the 2012 season. The movie doesn't even get what year it's set in right.
@@jrmagnum Yes, you have figured out that movies are allowed to make things up. The question was why they used the real draft board from a different year when they had this magical power to just put the teams on the board in any order they wanted to. The board is used several times throughout the movie, and it's used for no actual reason.
This movie is fun but a trade for 3 years worth of 2nd round picks for a top 10 pick is outrageous. Maybe if there was another pick in the same year it might be fairer
Brady was rightfully passed on all those times because of the player he was. Patriots drafted Adrien Klemn (OT), JR Redmond (RB), Greg Randall (OT), Dave Stachelski (TE), J'Juan Cherry (CB), Jeff Marriott (OG), and Antwan Harris (SS)... before drafting Tom Brady, as a compensatory 6th Rd pick no less. And looking back, Brady was the only QB (in a pretty crap QB class) to even profile as viably similar to the 6'5 230lb statue that was Drew Bledsoe
Denver could have taken a backup QB in Callahan, why not? I get that they have Matt Herrod, an all pro QB, but the guy could learn from an all pro, right?
In what universe is #33 and two future 2nd rounders for #6 overall a reasonable trade??? I get that JAX's GM is 'new' and that they are a bit of a clown organization. But how is a $B company hiring a group of people who are so inept with trade valuations? Bro looks around at his team and they're all like 'yep, sounds good to us!'🤦 This scene ruins the entire movie for me.
@lyfewithpiglet582 it LITERALLY never does. You can't point to a single example in the modern NFL of a team trading into the Top 10 without sending at least one 1st rounder back. 'It HaPpEnS aLl ThE tImE' 🤡
I agree it's a wild trade but it would be the #39 pick and two future 2nd rounders since they traded up from #7 to#1, so it's somehow a worse trade than stated
Value chart currently puts the #6 pick at 1600, with a 2nd Rd pick 33-40 (bottom 8 team) worth 500+. Three 2nd Rd picks, for a bad team, should get you over the 1600 points (though still discount that for time). The value is close. ... and the move still gives the Jaguars GM two high 2nd Rd picks; enough draft chart value to package and get back in at #15 if need be for this season, with the chance the do the same to end up with two first round picks the year after, and the year after that... 🤷🏾♂️. Avoid the grenade at #6, to still be able to get back to #15 if you want, with the ammunition to add a mid-1st Rd pick in the two drafts after that
I also hate how they keep calling it "#2 picks". It's a "second round pick". And when they make the trade and Costner says "we still have our 7th overall pick now", and I'm like "you didn't just flip your first rounders? Why did you make this so hard?" All of this is just so unrealistic. Also, we all know Tom Wellings character clearly tore his ACL again the next season and Sonny got fired.
Whats hilarious is that there was no reason for other teams to panic. Clev drafted Vontae who they were projected to get anyways and Bo was suppose to go #1 overall. The others teams picks should have been unaffected by the order and they should have picked as planned. Theres a lot of outrageous things going on in this movie lol
If the top QB prospect falls, there are only so many teams that can pass on them without issue. Shadeur Sanders is arguably the only QB who should go in the 1st Rd if this Draft. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes Jr, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goff, maybe Jordan Love, maybe CJ Stroud, maybe Matthew Stafford, maybe Jayden Daniels, maybe Dak Prescott, maybe Drake Maye, maybe Jalen Hurts. Every other situation takes Shadeur over what they currently have in place.
@ buddy the point is NO ONE took the QB. Vontae was projected to go to Clev at 7 or whatever they had and Bo #1. Meaning teams picking 2 and up already had their picks set to take their guy once Bo was taken #1. Clev taking Vontae #1 doesn’t change the other team’s plans if they don’t take Bo and just pick the guy they were already planning to take. No other team was taking Vontae, why he was desperate for Clev to take him at 7, that was the highest team showing interest in him. If Clev took Mack and the other teams also passed on Bo, there’s no reason for the draft order to be messed up, those other teams picking 2,3,4 etc etc are just picking the players they already had prepared thinking Bo was going to go #1. If anything there would be a surplus of players available if one of those teams took Bo, with Clev taking Vontae #1. Means a team is getting an extra player available they thought would be taken by then. So the idea that teams panicked and started taking players no one expected them to cuz Clev took Mack and others are passing on Bo is nonsense. A lot of this movie is nonsense, but it’s just funny how they try to create drama and is they knew how the NFL works, they would realize their drama is nonsense. Just like the film room scene 😂
@@EDTGO1 7 for sures; 8 maybes. Jacksonville was the 1st team on the clock that didn't have a situation where they could logically not take Bo Callahan, and the way things played out made it look like (to someone out of the loop) that there was something about Bo that was wrong. That is the situation that you missed; if you already have a QB you think could work (a maybe) or already have your QB, then you can look at a need other than QB even if QB #1 is available. Pick #2 through #5 were okay enough with their QB situations to pass on Bo... 🤷🏾♂️
as far as i know, No. No one traide 3 numbers 1 for an unproven players only to trades their 2's to get their 1 back. There been trades where people trades a two numbers one to move up on the draft for a qb. but not the wheeling and dealing done in this movie.
The Browns couldn't give him any first rounders because they traded them. But there are 30 other teams in the league that didn't trade their next three first rounders. Even as a rookie GM, Carson would have known to shop that pick around. Also, who only has their primary pick and a backup pick when picking 6th overall? On what planet do they not evaluate all of the players who might be available at that slot?
Is this really how the Browns draft players??? My bad judging by the way they play it must be. I have been a BROWNS FAN since the 50s and have suffered through many disappointments concerning draft day.
i was about to comment that perhaps the patriots but they were never in the top 10 when they traded down. patriots always went for more picks and lower round players. I know a few frachise that had trade out of the top 10's but normally that was for number 1's. 3 numbers 2 should equal a number 1 am not sure its a bad deal. You still have your number one for the following years and those numbers 2 could later be use to trade back up.
@@kheejulio8128you don’t have to be. ‘Who’s picking 4th?’ You mean to tell me a GM wouldn’t know that when the order is set for months and even fans know who’s picking 4th in the seventh round?
@@markgrimshaw6721 My favorite part is when the Jaguars' GM is "out of whack" because the Rams picked who they were expected to pick. Then he freaks out because someone takes his backup choice. Do they not have a draft board?
Kareem, MJ and Kobe played at a time when there was no crying and flopping. The defense was ruthless. Today there are no tough players, just a bunch of cry babies.
Dumbest part of the movie. Somebody in the Jaguars room wouldve been telling him no way in hell. Also he makes that shitty trade without talking to any other team. Everybody sitting around asking themselves what to do. In real life they are all making calls.
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"listen one team has to look like a fool in this movie. any suggestions"
"how about jacksonville?"
"any objections?"
*silence*
This is about as realistic as me flapping my arms and taking off into the sky lol
it happens in the NHL often actually lol. top 5 picks dropping big into late first or 2nd round
@@MrJoepepsI think he meant the negotiations
unrealistic? do you forget that one year a team actually forgot they were on the clock and missed their pick altogether?
They out here making bad madden trades let alone real life 😂😂
This could be a documentary for how the Browns are actually run in real life. The ineptitude in this movie is just hilarious.
"Three first round picks to get the guy I could've gotten all along."
You are fired sir. That is the dumbest decision I have ever heard.
GM’s that have won Super Bowls in the past have been fired for a lot worse than what this movie has portrayed
It's a movie not a documentary, nerd. Lighten up.
It's the Browns. Of course it's dumb.
Did you hear about the contract they gave Watson? Really the dumbest decision you ever heard of?
@@prollins6443 Wow, good call. I didn't even need to leave the franchise to find a dumber decision. Well played.
I loved this movie but I also loved Rambo. Sometimes the unrealistic ones are amazing
This is a better movie than Rambo. But that’s only my opinion.
Not sooo unrealistic, when you look at what some teams are doing... 😂
Costner negotiates like Eric Cartman in this movie.
Jeff, you're busting my balls here.
Someone making a version of the movie with Cartman there would be amazing.
"Who's picking fourth?" Room: "Shouldn't YOU know that?"
This is a really fun movie. Vonte getting drafted always gets me right in the feels
Probably bc we don't have Chadwick anymore 😔😭
@@Dannerismsdef not for that reason good riddance
I love this movie. I always watch it around draft time
If this movie was real life, Carson wouldn't get to the parking lot with his job.
This movie needs a sequel just so we can see how these draft picks paned out…. With the exception of Chadwick.
This movie is nearly 20 years old. They've all retired or injured out.
@@ADobbin1your math ain’t mathing. This movie is from 2014.
Bo Callihan is the only one left in the league (qbs have longer careers) and has 2 rings
It's definitely too long to worry about Chadwick in a sequel, but seeing how things played out for Bo Callahan could be interesting.
Boseman could be noted as having a 6-8 year career, where he featured on the Browns defense (make him Miles Garrett), project out Stefanski having 2 of 4 winning seasons to make Cleveland a solid team that still didn't win it all, but tell the other story.
Bo Callahan comes in, wins the Super Bowl in his second season, but as the team shifts towards leaning on him to carry the team, the team is never again quite good enough to actually make it back again.
Make that "none of his teammates came to his birthday party" innuendo (I think folks tried to cover and he simply took the hit because he could) an actual crux point in the movie.
Bo Callahan being a bad teammate and not a leader of men, ends up seeing him get an opportunity with a new team, and his new QB coach... Brian Drew, of Draft Day shenanigans fame.
The QB with all the ability in the world without the leadership skills, learning from the QB coach who had the great leadership makeup in his time, who looked to max out whatever ability he did have in his time.
Make it a redemption story for Bo Callahan.
They could do a movie where it's 10 years later, and most of the people here have been fired or retired since then.
A top 6 pick for 3 2nd round picks is absurd
Depends on the #6 pick, but in most cases you're correct.
@@edwarddegalan107 it is a good deal for the jag. they get to stockpile picks and if they see someone they like later in the first round they can use those 2's to trade back up. Losing your 3 first round on a qb your not sure off with a qb in your organization that can be good that season sound like hugely terrible trade. Especially in the last minute. they should already have the book on the guy and know he a sure thing Otherwise you be like the brown getting Deshawn watson or the viking for hershell.
Some trades are just not worth it.
@@Marveryn lmao no it isn't. #6 pick is never worth 3x 2nd rounders. The jaqs were better off trading that for 2 1st to any other team.
@@shaochiavang
In real life yes, but by some of the point charts, it actually maths out...but hell no this wouldn't ever happen lol
Realistic? Absolutely not.
Enjoyable movie? Absolutely.
The most unrealistic part is how the Browns fans are chanting “Super Bowl!” at the end.
I dunno, the real-life Browns are pretty stupid
Sad to say Browns fans chant Super Bowl after almost every win.
I watched this movie in the theater in Cincinnati with the family of the Browns GM at that time. I always thought it was funny that a sold out theater had no idea they were sitting with the actual Browns GM's family.
and then he went on to draft johnny football lol
Three future two’s for the number 6 ain’t ever gonna fly.
Especially when that pick is flipped for 3 future ones!
Value is value, 🤷🏾♂️. I don't fully understand how all those tables are figured out, but folks under this video have basically said that three 2nd round picks is basically worth about the #10 pick in the first round.
No idea what the points value margin is between #10 and #6, but if you're avoiding drafting a QB you've been convinced is a lemon, that margin maybe insignificant
@@igweugo Really well said. Plus, we've seen picks in the teens, not 6th overall, but not too far off either, go for two future 1's and a 3rd. I think 3 2nd rounders, and potentially HIGH 2nd rounders at that would be worth a, 11th or 12th pick, especially if you really wanted to move off it like you said
@@igweugo- The Rich Hill draft Value chart is very accurate.
Pick #6 is worth 446 points there.
Browns were taking #7 in the 2nd. Future picks are widely accepted as worth half of their mid round value. With 32 teams, pick 16 is the mid round, and is worth 121 points, so a future 2nd is worth 60.5 points [half the mid round].
Two are worth back up to the 121.
121+ 153 = 274 in exchange for 446 worth of points? No. This was terrible.
The counter offer asked by the Jaguars of 4 2nds, and giving full mid round value would make it a slight edge to the Jags in the deal.
If you have the more valuable pick, you NEVER lose value in a trade. You do not take an item worth $100 and trade it for 100 items worth $1.
The counter offer wasn't good enough when you give full value to the picks, and they took even less.
@PaulGaither
-Draft Day was a 2014 movie (logic would have you looking at the Rich Hill, or Jimmy Johnson, draft value charts from 2013 or sooner, and not chart of today)
-the rookie GM of the Jacksonville Jaguars was in a situation where he had been spooked into being stuck having to draft a lemon and was looking to get out of the pick.
How close to full value can you get to not be compelled to draft a lemon at #6?
Jimmy Johnson puts the value present value of the haul at about #20; Rich Hill puts the present value of the haul at about #22; JF puts the present value of the haul at #10.
In a fire sale situation... that's not a bad haul (even your Rich Hill value chart has the #6 and #7 picks in the 2nd Rd of the current year being worth enough to move back up to #15 if needed)
Nice try though
It's nice to see that so many people enjoyed that movie too.
Gms don't start scouting till an hour before the draft
They don’t know the draft order past 4…
@@jasongarbacz8899the part where he asked who’s picking 5th I was shocked haha
@@Kmkats I think the, I don't know what are they called, screen writers? (or whoever writes the dialogs between characters in movies) did this mostly so the audience learns what is going on. Logically (and professionally), the people involved in these scenes should know exactly what is going on, but the audience doesn't. I have read many comments in various clips from this movies where people talk in very precise football language. I am not from the U.S. but I like watching American football games from time to time but I don't know much about the rules, the positions, etc. My knowledge of the sports basically boils down to each team having 4 attempts to move the ball 10 yards before refreshing the number of attempts and try to get it to the scoring zone. So for someone ignorant of the sport rules like myself, the movie did a good job entertaining me.
However, I do like computer games and when I watch movies or TV shows where games are portrayed and I see obvious errors, I too react in the same way many football savvy watchers reacted to this movie.
Bottomline, this is a movie, not a documentary.
@ Totally understand being a non American and wanting to understand the game more. But I will say with this scene in particular there is a very easy way to not make the character look foolish within the world of real football while simultaneously making a effort to explain the scene with his dialogue. Rather then asking who was picking next which would be a fireable offense for a NFL GM not to k know, he could simply announce himself who’s picking next. Easy fix.
@@Kmkats Gotcha
Just a movie, darn good one
It's funny how, in this universe, an NFL General Manager (even a "rookie") is portrayed as a heaving basket-case who's about to vomit on his shoes.
Did you see Giants season of Hardknocks? NFL front offices are a bunch of clueless bozos
That’s the least believable part of this whole scene. Ruins the immersion.
Every GM believes he’s the big swinging dick manager on the block. Even the losers.
They would get anywhere near the job if they weren’t absolutely sure they’re some sort of gridiron General Patton.
You'd be surprised....
As soon as he makes that pick, nobody is ever trusting him or working with him ever again.
Great movie for anyone who doesn't know anything about the NFL
American football-needless violence combined with committee meetings.
I always wondered what Brad Bellick did before he became a corrections officer at Fox River.
not to mention Jon H Ryan
Too many whining about a fictional movie. Omg that would never happen, yet we see crazy deals all the time.
If u love this movie that tells me u like madden franchise mode, build a team, and sim the season
Kevin Costner commands his scenes 👏
Best part is an NFL GM not knowing who has the 4th pick of the draft in a year he entered the draft with the 7th pick
The Rams pick #2 and "went with their expected pick"
Meanwhile in Jax, sitting at #6..."The Rams took my pick! Everything's out of whack!"
Turns out Carson IS a donkey
He got 3 picks of 2nd rounders, so they probably could find someone in the 2nd round.
There are always projections that don’t happen in every draft.
Great movie 🍿!! Costner is a great actor!!! I love ❤️ him!!!
As an NFL draft lover this movie had so much potential. Unfortunately the trades were so bad that the only way they would go through is in Madden with the ol change to punter then change position back after the trade routine.
This movie is super slept on. I really liked this movie
Same here. One of my favorites
I totally agree
Me too
It sucks
Yea i liked it also but I'm a bit of a nerd I also liked Star Wars episode one cause it's also a nerd movie lol
Hollywood is awesome... the NFL... well the gamblers love you.
Remember what N.O. DID FOR Ricky?
Never thought about it but those mins feel like hours to us fans but probably feel like seconds to GMs
The fact that he did this and complains about yellowstone astounds me
How I would have written it.... Allude to the fact Sonny had drafted a great return specialist a few years earlier. He keeps saying that he's the best return man in the game. Everyone says he's good but he's no David Putney. Fast-forward to this scene, and the Jags GM says I want three years of #2's AND your punt returner. They make the deal and Sonny gets Putney in the Seattle trade.
The end of this movie is wild.
Tony Khan doing deals lol
Jags shouldve demanded a 5th rounder in that
Is Bo Callahan a Trevor Lawrence clone 😂? Jacksonville is probably going to be on their 3rd head coach after this season
Carson should have asked for an additional 3rd and 5th round pick that same draft.
Imagine getting drafted in the NFL and ending up playing for the Browns...you'd rather just say no.
Love this flick
That music says it all
0:48 1. Browns LB Vontae Mack
2. Rams T Robert Anderson
3. Dolphins DE Patrick Palmer
A good deal for the both of us. Call it in for Bo heading to Denver.
I actually liked this movie. But I don't think it's very realistic. Who would give up the #6 pick for 3 second round picks? And why wouldn't you take BO just because some other GM said he thinks he's a bust?
Carlsons a rookie 😂
This isnt a sports movie. Its a negotiation movie. Most everyone hating misses this critical point
It’s funny seeing a lot of the comments talk about how unrealistic it is somehow no GM would do this. It’s a movie and enjoy it for what it’s worth. I’ve watched it multiple times and love it.
Most people cant enjoy movies if the plot only moves bc people are incredibly dumb...unless its a comedy...which is why people jokingly claim this is a comedy
No one in there right mind is exchanging a 6th for three 2nd rounders lol
Jacksonville absolutely would.
Jarry Jones would
The movie is supposed to be about the 2014 draft, yet for some reason they keep using the draft boards from the 2013 draft, with the Ravens and 49r's having the last two picks since they were in the Super Bowl after the 2012 season. The movie doesn't even get what year it's set in right.
Maybe it was filmed mid season?
Ya, and ‘13 was when Bo Callahan was in the draft as well.
@@jrmagnum this comment 🙌🙌
@@jrmagnum Yes, you have figured out that movies are allowed to make things up. The question was why they used the real draft board from a different year when they had this magical power to just put the teams on the board in any order they wanted to. The board is used several times throughout the movie, and it's used for no actual reason.
What's wrong with Callahan?
Well ... Bo Callahan is an actor ... Not an actual NFL QB level athlete.
This movie is really good if you approach it as a comedy.
The GM dating someone in the front office what's this Washington 😂
This movie is fun but a trade for 3 years worth of 2nd round picks for a top 10 pick is outrageous. Maybe if there was another pick in the same year it might be fairer
It is, but remember... This movie was made almost 15 to 20 seasons ago, and the landscape has changed tremendously
Brady was passed by 6 times and look how that turned out.
Brady was rightfully passed on all those times because of the player he was.
Patriots drafted Adrien Klemn (OT), JR Redmond (RB), Greg Randall (OT), Dave Stachelski (TE), J'Juan Cherry (CB), Jeff Marriott (OG), and Antwan Harris (SS)... before drafting Tom Brady, as a compensatory 6th Rd pick no less.
And looking back, Brady was the only QB (in a pretty crap QB class) to even profile as viably similar to the 6'5 230lb statue that was Drew Bledsoe
Brock Purdy for the entire draft. I do love ❤️ him as a QB.
Denver could have taken a backup QB in Callahan, why not? I get that they have Matt Herrod, an all pro QB, but the guy could learn from an all pro, right?
In what universe is #33 and two future 2nd rounders for #6 overall a reasonable trade??? I get that JAX's GM is 'new' and that they are a bit of a clown organization. But how is a $B company hiring a group of people who are so inept with trade valuations? Bro looks around at his team and they're all like 'yep, sounds good to us!'🤦 This scene ruins the entire movie for me.
This happens all the time
@lyfewithpiglet582 it LITERALLY never does. You can't point to a single example in the modern NFL of a team trading into the Top 10 without sending at least one 1st rounder back.
'It HaPpEnS aLl ThE tImE' 🤡
I agree it's a wild trade but it would be the #39 pick and two future 2nd rounders since they traded up from #7 to#1, so it's somehow a worse trade than stated
Value chart currently puts the #6 pick at 1600, with a 2nd Rd pick 33-40 (bottom 8 team) worth 500+.
Three 2nd Rd picks, for a bad team, should get you over the 1600 points (though still discount that for time).
The value is close.
... and the move still gives the Jaguars GM two high 2nd Rd picks; enough draft chart value to package and get back in at #15 if need be for this season, with the chance the do the same to end up with two first round picks the year after, and the year after that... 🤷🏾♂️.
Avoid the grenade at #6, to still be able to get back to #15 if you want, with the ammunition to add a mid-1st Rd pick in the two drafts after that
Dang man we didn’t know. What front office do you work for again?
Why did you leave Yellowstone??
The movie is fun.
Stupid, but fun.
I watched the clip a real GM watch some of this movie and said no way do they operate this way this is all Hollywood the NFL does not work this way
Costner and Garner as BF and GF is borderline cringey.
Just borderline?
I also hate how they keep calling it "#2 picks". It's a "second round pick". And when they make the trade and Costner says "we still have our 7th overall pick now", and I'm like "you didn't just flip your first rounders? Why did you make this so hard?" All of this is just so unrealistic. Also, we all know Tom Wellings character clearly tore his ACL again the next season and Sonny got fired.
A team with an all pro qb is picking at 5 ?
I think the Browns watched this movie and got pumped up to give Deshaun Watson… the worst contract in NFL history by a mile.
😂❤😂
LOL😂
a discount on adds is not getting paid to watch
Just like the Browns in real life
Skelator is the owner of the Browns 😂
Whats hilarious is that there was no reason for other teams to panic. Clev drafted Vontae who they were projected to get anyways and Bo was suppose to go #1 overall. The others teams picks should have been unaffected by the order and they should have picked as planned. Theres a lot of outrageous things going on in this movie lol
If the top QB prospect falls, there are only so many teams that can pass on them without issue.
Shadeur Sanders is arguably the only QB who should go in the 1st Rd if this Draft.
Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes Jr, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jared Goff, maybe Jordan Love, maybe CJ Stroud, maybe Matthew Stafford, maybe Jayden Daniels, maybe Dak Prescott, maybe Drake Maye, maybe Jalen Hurts.
Every other situation takes Shadeur over what they currently have in place.
@ buddy the point is NO ONE took the QB. Vontae was projected to go to Clev at 7 or whatever they had and Bo #1. Meaning teams picking 2 and up already had their picks set to take their guy once Bo was taken #1. Clev taking Vontae #1 doesn’t change the other team’s plans if they don’t take Bo and just pick the guy they were already planning to take. No other team was taking Vontae, why he was desperate for Clev to take him at 7, that was the highest team showing interest in him. If Clev took Mack and the other teams also passed on Bo, there’s no reason for the draft order to be messed up, those other teams picking 2,3,4 etc etc are just picking the players they already had prepared thinking Bo was going to go #1.
If anything there would be a surplus of players available if one of those teams took Bo, with Clev taking Vontae #1. Means a team is getting an extra player available they thought would be taken by then. So the idea that teams panicked and started taking players no one expected them to cuz Clev took Mack and others are passing on Bo is nonsense. A lot of this movie is nonsense, but it’s just funny how they try to create drama and is they knew how the NFL works, they would realize their drama is nonsense. Just like the film room scene 😂
@@EDTGO1 7 for sures; 8 maybes.
Jacksonville was the 1st team on the clock that didn't have a situation where they could logically not take Bo Callahan, and the way things played out made it look like (to someone out of the loop) that there was something about Bo that was wrong.
That is the situation that you missed; if you already have a QB you think could work (a maybe) or already have your QB, then you can look at a need other than QB even if QB #1 is available.
Pick #2 through #5 were okay enough with their QB situations to pass on Bo... 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah. Let’s everybody pick on the Jaguars. Ha ha😅
Bo Lawrence.
He made the trade to save his ranch in Montana till the next election
John Diggle 1:20
SPARTAN!!!
That Black Gentleman also played Mayor Carter Poole on Blue Bloods
did something like this really happen ? if so, who was the player/team this is about .
and is this pretty realistic movie of how draft day is?
I doubt this is realistic at all. The characters don't seem remotely realistic.
as far as i know, No. No one traide 3 numbers 1 for an unproven players only to trades their 2's to get their 1 back. There been trades where people trades a two numbers one to move up on the draft for a qb. but not the wheeling and dealing done in this movie.
3:00 Arizona chooses CB Robert Starks
The Browns couldn't give him any first rounders because they traded them. But there are 30 other teams in the league that didn't trade their next three first rounders. Even as a rookie GM, Carson would have known to shop that pick around.
Also, who only has their primary pick and a backup pick when picking 6th overall? On what planet do they not evaluate all of the players who might be available at that slot?
Is this really how the Browns draft players??? My bad judging by the way they play it must be. I have been a BROWNS FAN since the 50s and have suffered through many disappointments concerning draft day.
And Browns fams wonder why they cant have a winning football team
“Who has pick #4?”… a GM on draft day doesn’t know the draft order?!
Dukey Howser grows up to lead Jacksonville Jags into gutter for second rounders
In the real world Seattle trades up two spots with Denver.
Why others are passing on Michkov???? What's wrong with him?
I love this movie . But theres sooo many inadequacies. Including, why would everything be out of whack ? Mack wasn't expected to go top 8 anyway? Lol
Browns... the rams and Dolphins went with there expected picks
Jax...The Rams took my pick
Me.... what???
This whole scene is hilariously ridiculous
Jeff. You’re fired.
Throw in a 2 and 3 this year and we'll talk.
I can think of 3 of his movies that are way better than this
They made the Jaguars guy seem a little too green. Like come on.. no one is that stupid
And yet, some of these current GM’s are shown to be incompetent with their draft picks and the way they run the organization down the road
The guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell has entered the chat.
The issue is its a football movie and the draft moves would never happen.
This movie is so unrealistic- Jacksonville would never be picking as low as 6
No self respecting GM would trade a top 10 pick for three 2nd rounders.
i was about to comment that perhaps the patriots but they were never in the top 10 when they traded down. patriots always went for more picks and lower round players. I know a few frachise that had trade out of the top 10's but normally that was for number 1's. 3 numbers 2 should equal a number 1 am not sure its a bad deal. You still have your number one for the following years and those numbers 2 could later be use to trade back up.
Yeah, 4 2nd rounders would had been more realistic
its all unrealistic but there had to be a "stupid crazy unrealistic" for it all to work
Tbh I’ve seen a lot crazier trades in real life.
This is one of the most unrealistic sports movies ever made. The dialog is as far away from real as you can get
You in the war rooms?
@@kheejulio8128you don’t have to be. ‘Who’s picking 4th?’ You mean to tell me a GM wouldn’t know that when the order is set for months and even fans know who’s picking 4th in the seventh round?
@@markgrimshaw6721 My favorite part is when the Jaguars' GM is "out of whack" because the Rams picked who they were expected to pick. Then he freaks out because someone takes his backup choice. Do they not have a draft board?
They actually picked Deshawn Watson.
Kareem, MJ and Kobe played at a time when there was no crying and flopping. The defense was ruthless. Today there are no tough players, just a bunch of cry babies.
But the brown should of drafted Bo Callaghan out of Wisconsin number pick
Dumbest part of the movie.
Somebody in the Jaguars room wouldve been telling him no way in hell.
Also he makes that shitty trade without talking to any other team.
Everybody sitting around asking themselves what to do. In real life they are all making calls.
You wouldnt know jeff carson?
20+ years older than herm.... wtf