Maybe Kelly was nervous…. But she was rushing thru the interview. A icon like Eddie Murphy you do NOT rush! Especially since he rarely makes appearances
She really does not know who he is. Just read up the day before. He is quite washed up now. Most people are like WHO? 48hrs was a long time ago. Pluto Nash and other bombs did him in. What can I say he is not funny anymore.
He’s long overdue for his AFI Life Achievement Award and The Kennedy Center Honors for his outstanding contributions to the field of motion pictures for 5 decades. The Kennedy Center Honors is a lifetime achievement award for the performing arts in general that includes motion pictures while the mark Twain prize award is the highest honor in comedy (which he already earned in 2015)
@@ArtTheSingeri truly believe he cost himself that Oscar. It felt like someone was trying to ride that nominnation so they released Norbit. That tanked that Oscar win .
Eddie should be classed as a legend of Hollywood, I grew up watching him and he’s always kept it real and opened up roads for a lot of people much love and respect from down under 🇦🇺💯
He is considered one. It’s on record that when he came to fame that he was the first African American to have lead roles in Hollywood that weren’t a servant or character. It includes his acting, stand up production & directing. Especially after 48 hours, they was on him.
@@ragantate3995 There was various African-Americans who had lead roles before Murphy. Sidney Poitier won an Oscar 1964 for "Lilies of the Field", way before Murphy got lead roles in the 80s.
Wow! I actually said that same thing to Eddie in person when I worked with him on Dolomite is my name. He said very softly and humbly "Thank You". Yeah, that's a sleeper hit.
@@mikekaye3874 I loved the movie so much, that whenever I see it on streaming or my regular stations, I watch it again. Hopefully you will find it on streaming, your regular stations, or at your local library.
@@dariuschisholm7317 Yeah, I also worked as an Alternative stand-in for him on THIS Beverly Hills Cop Movie. But they went with another stand-in who was more his size. I still got paid for my one day of work tho lol
I love Kelly, but she's too quick to want to move on to the next subject. Eddie had to slow her down and finish his thoughts about actors. It's okay to have a lull in the conversation now and then - even for television.
I agree. She's talking a mile a minute, and he's so chill. Just let him talk. She's not asking any new questions that haven't been asked on other shows, so maybe cut a few of them so he can elaborate a little bit on some topics.
Kelly has producers in her ear telling her to move on so they can get in as many story points as possible for the guest. Talk shows like these have time constraints but if it were up to Kelly we all know she’d spend an hour with each guest.
I don’t think Kelly is the only interviewer that didn’t let Eddie talk. He has great stories to tell and we want to hear them! Every interview can not be handled in the same manner!
Jealousy is ugly theirs no other reason to put down another person n how they interview some1..I think she's doin just fine 🤣🤣🤣 I'm sure ur comment broke her heart and impacted her whole world 😂😂😂
@@DavidClark-vu3dw🤣🤣🤣 some1 judging someone else n calling them a little kid 🤣🤣 why are even watching this n commenting ifu think she's so annoying...make it make sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eddie Murphy is one of my favorite actors, I love his movies especially Trading Places and Coming to America. I am looking forward to watching Beverly Hills Cop 4 in the movie theaters.
His catalog is ridiculous! Trading Places was fantastic! And you're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe with him mocking the uppity Black dude will FOREVER be funny! Don't get me started on Raw! 🎶 Don't let em fool ya. Oh no... Dexter! 🤣🤣🎤
@@slickwilly6868 oh absolutely it is an unofficial Holiday/ Christmas season movie in my family since 1985 when we began renting out home videos vhs 📼 lol classic era
I just love how Kelly took it back. I just love hearing Eddie Murphy talk. This is a one in a lifetime thing. I wish him all the best. He is so amazing. He has brought some great movies to our lives with his acting. 🎭
I’m so serious about this if the Eddie Murphy does a New York City Broadway Show it will be my first ever attendance at a Broadway Show as a native new yorker born and raised 1982 like Kelly Clarkson 🎉 Please make it happen Eddie ❤
And I enjoyed all Eddie Murphy's movies and my favorites are 48hrs, Beverly Hills Cop 1-3, Trading Places, The Nutty Professor 1-2, Another 48hrs, Harlem Nights, The Golden Child and A Thousand Words!!!
Eddie has been on set with some of the funniest, most legendary comedians and actors of our time like Richard Pryor, Redd Foxx, Della Reese, Arsenio Hall and Martin Lawrence and the only movie he had fun making was Trading Places with Dan Aykroyd. No offense to Dan but those other sets had to be something special. I wish Eddie would've talked more about that!
I agree because I like to hear the details of things and Kelly was going to the next. I guess she wanted to get all of her questions in because she did have so many for him that I did like he elaborated on a lot of things.
Growing up with Eddie Murphy, I’d like to see him in a Mrs. Doubtfire role. Something like a The Hangover meets Mrs. Doubtfire meets RuPaul’s Drag Race. He’s the closest thing I got now since Robin Williams has passed and I hope he gets more roles to further move himself into an even more bigger full potential than he thinks he can achieve. ps. He HAS NOT aged at all. He looks really great!
Now that Eddie’s brought back Axel F. Please Eddie PLEEASE give us another Nutty Professor🙏. Give us more Klumps. Eddie is the man. Just one of the greatest Hollywood stars of all time.
I'm not sure what interview everyone watched, but Kelly didn't talk over or interrupt Eddie. The conversation was super interactive, but she has a quick cadence and he has a slower one. It may seem like she's talking over him, but if you pay attention, there are times he finished a thought, she spoke, and he came back with another thought, and she stops. Most of us aren't active listeners in our everyday lives, so relax with all the jugement. Not to mention, it's EDDIE MURPHY, and I'm sure it's mind blowing to her. Conversations in general are hard when you don't know someone, but add in a legendary comic, an audience, a camera, and directors it has gotta be hard. The keyboard courage is a lot in these comments.
The way he described doing stand up again sounded more like having his own show like Kelly does. Whatever he does we're all gonna watch, like his new Beverly Hills movie, comedy gold🤌. I watched it yesterday; he still has it.
Missed opportunity to not do something singing related! I had the So Happy album on tape decades ago. Eddie was ahead of his time. Great interview. He’s so down to earth and relatable still.
Definately Robbed, Denied of the OSCAR for Dream Girls. That was not Eddie on the screen. That was someone else. Same with Dolemight. Amazing talent. Deserved the Oscar. - Toronto, Canada.
@@debbiedoodiedandi Yes Absolutely, He's a great actor. Comedy is hard. And no disrespect but when he usually does a movie, he always has that comedy timing and creative genius coming through. But with Dream Girls, I totally forgot it was Eddie. He acted his ass off, and deserved it so much. If you know what I mean. No disrespect to all his other rolls. I love all of them. Even Beverly Hills Cop 3, and Golden Child. Great Amazing Icon...a Legend. He is the Paul McCartney of Acting and Comedy. - Toronto, Canada.
I'm such a fan of Eddie!! He's iconic! I love this franchise! Can't wait to see it! I'm surprised he didn't say people quote coming to America!! His catalog is impressive! I hope he keeps entertaining us!! Great interview!
Kellys the type that will ask the questions and answer them in the same sentence lol.. breathe. Let your guests respond, give them time, let it marinate!
Eddie Murphy took charge of the interview In a respectful way
Yeah who gave Kelly Clarkson a talk show
Yea.. she condecends, shes overly excited...goofy..😅
@@Jill-jz7gd She was over her head.
Not at all. Kelly was great and Eddie was awesome.
Blame her Producers and the Formulaic manner of the format.
PLEASE LET HIM TALK, KELLY!! I think your interviews would be ALOT more enjoyable if you allow your guests to speak fully after you ask them questions
Agreed...I was just thinking that.
Maybe Kelly was nervous…. But she was rushing thru the interview. A icon like Eddie Murphy you do NOT rush! Especially since he rarely makes appearances
She probably had so much she wanted to ask and talk to him about, but only so much time.
He was an early cast member in SNL which was a live show. He understands the dynamic.
Yes!!!!!!!!!!
@@noam65plus this isn’t his first interview I’m sure he’s experienced that before many times
She really does not know who he is. Just read up the day before. He is quite washed up now. Most people are like WHO?
48hrs was a long time ago. Pluto Nash and other bombs did him in. What can I say he is not funny anymore.
He’s long overdue for his AFI Life Achievement Award and The Kennedy Center Honors for his outstanding contributions to the field of motion pictures for 5 decades.
The Kennedy Center Honors is a lifetime achievement award for the performing arts in general that includes motion pictures while the mark Twain prize award is the highest honor in comedy (which he already earned in 2015)
And an Oscar!
@@ArtTheSingeri truly believe he cost himself that Oscar. It felt like someone was trying to ride that nominnation so they released Norbit. That tanked that Oscar win .
@@ArtTheSinger not everyone deserves or gets an Oscar. He was good in Dream Girls, but not an Oscar level actor. That's ok,
the absolute lunacy of Nicole kidman getting the AFi lifetime before Eddie. ridiculous.
He got the Kennedy center years ago. Watch it, it on RUclips
Eddie should be classed as a legend of Hollywood, I grew up watching him and he’s always kept it real and opened up roads for a lot of people much love and respect from down under 🇦🇺💯
He is considered one. It’s on record that when he came to fame that he was the first African American to have lead roles in Hollywood that weren’t a servant or character. It includes his acting, stand up production & directing. Especially after 48 hours, they was on him.
amen
@@ragantate3995 There was various African-Americans who had lead roles before Murphy. Sidney Poitier won an Oscar 1964 for "Lilies of the Field", way before Murphy got lead roles in the 80s.
There’s something graceful about Eddie this time around. It looks good on him.
Amen
@@nonid5627 I agree. He's more enjoyable when he's grounded like this. He's aging well.
Age.
@@KAY.BEE1 Enlightenment happens at any age dear.
Wisdom. ❤
Loved Eddie in the movie, "Mr. Church"!❤
It's on my list and haven't seen it yet. The Trailer looked good. - Toronto, Canada.
Wow! I actually said that same thing to Eddie in person when I worked with him on Dolomite is my name. He said very softly and humbly "Thank You". Yeah, that's a sleeper hit.
@@mikekaye3874 I loved the movie so much, that whenever I see it on streaming or my regular stations, I watch it again. Hopefully you will find it on streaming, your regular stations, or at your local library.
@ielijahmccoy you met him wow you lucky
@@dariuschisholm7317 Yeah, I also worked as an Alternative stand-in for him on THIS Beverly Hills Cop Movie. But they went with another stand-in who was more his size. I still got paid for my one day of work tho lol
We saw Beverly Hills Cop 4 yesterday, we loved it! Eddie looks great!
Dear producers: please have fewer guests in the hour so we can watch fuller and more relaxed interviews!
Yes, agree!
Agreed...it moved way too fast...rushed
Definitely agree! This interview felt too rushed
I said that before I even read your comment
this!
Mr Robinson's Neighborhood, was one of my favorite skits on SNL!!
😂I was just thinking about that while watching the interview!
I love buckwheat! In James Brown too hot in a hot tub!
Eddie looks amazing. You can tell he really takes care of himself.
Trading Places, one of my all time favourite films. Classic.
I just watches it for the first time. That movie looks like it was filmed in the 50’s. Lol. But it was great
Yesssssssss ❤❤❤❤
"Looking good Billy Ray!"
You can tell that Eddie Murphy is a pro at interviewing very professional and old school
Giving eddy the respect, gotta put the whole interview
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Eddie* Give his name some respect.
I love Kelly, but she's too quick to want to move on to the next subject. Eddie had to slow her down and finish his thoughts about actors. It's okay to have a lull in the conversation now and then - even for television.
I agree. She's talking a mile a minute, and he's so chill. Just let him talk. She's not asking any new questions that haven't been asked on other shows, so maybe cut a few of them so he can elaborate a little bit on some topics.
That’s because there is a time limit
I actually think it’s the opposite. He talks too much and does not let her talk even though it her show and there’s a time limit.
props to Kelly, always!
Kelly has producers in her ear telling her to move on so they can get in as many story points as possible for the guest. Talk shows like these have time constraints but if it were up to Kelly we all know she’d spend an hour with each guest.
I don’t think Kelly is the only interviewer that didn’t let Eddie talk. He has great stories to tell and we want to hear them! Every interview can not be handled in the same manner!
Eddie has a very low energy when interviewed so the interviewer is trying to lift it
@@behindthebuild8016I only noticed his energy has gotten low since he’s older if you watch his earlier interviews he’s very energetic and engaging
I loved him immensely in Mr Church. He should have got an award for that.
Eddie Murphy IS the michael jackson of comedy !!! 🙌🔥💯
Let's hope not.
No. He’s just The Eddie Murphy
yea nah.. Eddie is his own man. not appropriate to say he is the anything to anybody.
Right he’s like the Beyoncé of film
@@trindellbrown *pause*
Should have won an Oscar for his portrayal of James "Thunder" Early
Yeah, that was a BS snub for his acting in Dreamgirls all because he didn't want to brown-nose a bunch of academy members to vote for him.
YESSSSS ❤
With someone Eddie, you must interview him differently. Let him finish the story and don't interrupt. Let us listen........
She's a little kid. Annoying
She's nervous, she needs to pause and breathe@@DavidClark-vu3dw
She did fine! I really enjoyed this interview!
Jealousy is ugly theirs no other reason to put down another person n how they interview some1..I think she's doin just fine 🤣🤣🤣 I'm sure ur comment broke her heart and impacted her whole world 😂😂😂
@@DavidClark-vu3dw🤣🤣🤣 some1 judging someone else n calling them a little kid 🤣🤣 why are even watching this n commenting ifu think she's so annoying...make it make sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eddie Murphy will always be funny to me and Im glad he's back to making movies ❤
Good to see Eddie Murphy. Broadway idea, could work. Gong shows was fun to watch. Comedy is different today. Be cool to have old and new. Peace
Eddie Murphy is one of my favorite actors, I love his movies especially Trading Places and Coming to America. I am looking forward to watching Beverly Hills Cop 4 in the movie theaters.
It's going to be on netflix
I'm so ready! Popcorn night!
His catalog is ridiculous! Trading Places was fantastic! And you're not gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe with him mocking the uppity Black dude will FOREVER be funny! Don't get me started on Raw! 🎶 Don't let em fool ya. Oh no... Dexter! 🤣🤣🎤
😅 it be swinging 🎤
@@CarlyneDTQTonPod Dexter is 🤬 your woman. WELL! 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
By the way I've labled Trading Places as a holiday movie.😂😂
@@slickwilly6868 Mortimer and I can't remember his brother's name but that dollar bet had Dan Aykroyd's a*s messed up! 😁
@@slickwilly6868 oh absolutely it is an unofficial Holiday/ Christmas season movie in my family since 1985 when we began renting out home videos vhs 📼 lol classic era
It would have been cool if they sang together 🎉🎉🎉
He looks great.
Absolutely! He's had a full life and a big loving family. Filthy rich since being young will help with all that too 😜
Why wouldn't he? Bigot.
Kelly is 42?! She looks 28! She’s beautiful. And Eddie looks wonderful too- he certainly doesn’t look 63!!
Now you know damn well she don't look 28 years old. That's a bit of a stretch!
Realmente, ela parece ter 29@@kishaB-i2b
@@kishaB-i2bIt's all relative. There are 28 year olds that look older than her.
Yeah definitely
She looks 35-37 at the youngest. She does NOT look 20s, 28.
I just love how Kelly took it back. I just love hearing Eddie Murphy talk. This is a one in a lifetime thing. I wish him all the best. He is so amazing. He has brought some great movies to our lives with his acting. 🎭
EDDIE MURPHY SO GREAT ON THE KELLY CLARKSON SHOW !!!!
Showtime with Eddie Murphy and Robert De Niero is underrated.
I love that movie. And I-Spy as well was very funny.
@@cedriclloyd5571 yup I Spy is underrated too. When Eddie slapped the mess out of that boxer was funny as hell lmao
Eddie controlled that interview lol. Stop asking questions and cutting that man off!
We love Eddie Murphy
Forever Eddie Murphy!💯
Uncle Eddie...lol im 48 ...he was uncle eddie growing up ❤😂🎉
Love Eddie!! That broadway type show idea sounds like a smash hit ! He should totally do it
I’m so serious about this if the Eddie Murphy does a New York City Broadway Show it will be my first ever attendance at a Broadway Show as a native new yorker born and raised 1982 like Kelly Clarkson 🎉
Please make it happen Eddie ❤
I’ve seen a lot of Eddie Murphy interviews over the years…this is soooo good..GO KELLY.
And I enjoyed all Eddie Murphy's movies and my favorites are 48hrs, Beverly Hills Cop 1-3, Trading Places, The Nutty Professor 1-2, Another 48hrs, Harlem Nights, The Golden Child and A Thousand Words!!!
A Thousand Words was great, and you have to check out "Mr. Church". It was a beautiful movie too.
Love seeing you guys healthy and happy! Eddy and Kelly, you guys both look great and thanks for your work!
Eddie is sooooo smooth. I would go see his broadway show in a heartbeat!
I really enjoyed this interview!! I love Eddie Murphy! What a legend!!
15:50 Rick Baker also did the make-up for Michael Jackson in Thriller, also directed by John Landis
asking Eddie about doing stand up again was the perfect question cause I be praying for one more Eddie stand up in this lifetime
The man ages at the slowest pace ever and is still funny hell.
Okay bigot.
Good show Kelly we appreciate you and the celebraties.
Eddie has been on set with some of the funniest, most legendary comedians and actors of our time like Richard Pryor, Redd Foxx, Della Reese, Arsenio Hall and Martin Lawrence and the only movie he had fun making was Trading Places with Dan Aykroyd. No offense to Dan but those other sets had to be something special. I wish Eddie would've talked more about that!
Axel F is absolutely Brilliant! Loved it! ❤
Absolutely ❤️ Eddie Murphy ❤
Glad Eddie stayed and did a long interview.
I agree because I like to hear the details of things and Kelly was going to the next. I guess she wanted to get all of her questions in because she did have so many for him that I did like he elaborated on a lot of things.
the new beverly hills cop was awesome!!!!
Eddie Murphy is a great actor, a legend!
great great interview...Eddie is ICON..... omg I love Kelly Clarkson 😍
Kelly looks absolutely beautiful and amazing! 😍😍❤❤
Kelly’s energy at an 11 Eddies always at like a 3 in person and an 11 when he’s acting
Yesssssssss she was on caffeine 😂
Coming To America is my fav
Not sure if it's true, but I saw a post on Facebook that he's gonna do a spinoff with the Donkey character from Shrek. That could be pretty funny.
Love Eddie!! ❤
I do too.
I want to hear his music bc "Party All the Time" was a jam!
Eddie Murphy is the king 🤴 of comedy 1980s 1990s 1997 1999 icon legend #mraxcel beverallyy Hills cop
I'm happy he did a few more anyway I friggin love Eddie Murphy and it was nice to see him in a few more comedies
I still can’t see him playing ruspersha in Norbit, when I found out he play her my mind was blown
One of Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys's favorite films.
"HowYouuDurrnn" 🗣🧐
I can picture it.
He's silly;and just that
talented.
Loved the movie!!! I’ve missed him as Axel. It was great!
Proof you cah be successful in Hollywood and have a normal life. Salute to Eddie
Or not be a weirdo! He is very normal and handsome!
@@brooklynbred1460 He's had his moments.
Exactly, he got caught picking up a transgender.. claiming to give a ride @@NoteFromSELF
Eddie Murphy is The Best 💯 Period
The fact that’s 63, he looks AMAZING.
One of the greatest, without a doubt!
Growing up with Eddie Murphy, I’d like to see him in a Mrs. Doubtfire role. Something like a The Hangover meets Mrs. Doubtfire meets RuPaul’s Drag Race. He’s the closest thing I got now since Robin Williams has passed and I hope he gets more roles to further move himself into an even more bigger full potential than he thinks he can achieve. ps. He HAS NOT aged at all. He looks really great!
I grew up watching him,Robin Williams and Jim Carrey in films. I was shocked that I saw more films with Eddie and Robin than Jim.
@@Disney65Fanwhat about Bill ?
@@lexkanyima2195 Who?
I love the respect she showed the King of comedy… he’s the greatest comedian ever
Kelly shhhhh 🤫🤫🤫 Let him talk
Shes fangirling.
Now that Eddie’s brought back Axel F. Please Eddie PLEEASE give us another Nutty Professor🙏. Give us more Klumps. Eddie is the man. Just one of the greatest Hollywood stars of all time.
I'm not sure what interview everyone watched, but Kelly didn't talk over or interrupt Eddie. The conversation was super interactive, but she has a quick cadence and he has a slower one. It may seem like she's talking over him, but if you pay attention, there are times he finished a thought, she spoke, and he came back with another thought, and she stops. Most of us aren't active listeners in our everyday lives, so relax with all the jugement.
Not to mention, it's EDDIE MURPHY, and I'm sure it's mind blowing to her. Conversations in general are hard when you don't know someone, but add in a legendary comic, an audience, a camera, and directors it has gotta be hard. The keyboard courage is a lot in these comments.
Kelly did just fine. People just feel the need to talk stupid. Like you said, keyboard courage.
Totally agree
Exactly. Eddie was enjoying the conversations
Wrong!
@@williamgannjr6082Kelly had a good timing
The way he described doing stand up again sounded more like having his own show like Kelly does. Whatever he does we're all gonna watch, like his new Beverly Hills movie, comedy gold🤌. I watched it yesterday; he still has it.
Great interview!!!! And that banana in the talepipe tho 😂😂😂
*He is gracious & humble. I luv his laugh.*
Beautiful interview ❤
Eddie is a gem… love him. A legend indeed.
Love this interview, love you Eddie !!
Kelly Clarkson is such an adorable person
Love you Mr Murphy sooooo Much ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Eddy is so humble and peaceful and has always been private. I like him a lot.
Missed opportunity to not do something singing related! I had the So Happy album on tape decades ago. Eddie was ahead of his time. Great interview. He’s so down to earth and relatable still.
His the few, the last from that amazing era, the 80’s ❤❤
I love when he played Buck Wheat .
O-Tay! 😂🤣😋
@@xoxxobob61 once ,twice ,tree ,times a wady .And wookin for wove in all da wong places wookin for wove .
@@stacywilson4790 I think it was "Wokin' pa Nub" ! in all da wrong places! 😂🤣
Eddie Murphy is a worldwide treasure!!!
Definately Robbed, Denied of the OSCAR for Dream Girls. That was not Eddie on the screen. That was someone else. Same with Dolemight. Amazing talent. Deserved the Oscar. - Toronto, Canada.
He was absolutely robbed for DreamWorks. I wish he'd do another musical
@@debbiedoodiedandi Yes Absolutely, He's a great actor. Comedy is hard. And no disrespect but when he usually does a movie, he always has that comedy timing and creative genius coming through. But with Dream Girls, I totally forgot it was Eddie. He acted his ass off, and deserved it so much. If you know what I mean. No disrespect to all his other rolls. I love all of them. Even Beverly Hills Cop 3, and Golden Child. Great Amazing Icon...a Legend. He is the Paul McCartney of Acting and Comedy. - Toronto, Canada.
I agree wholeheartedly!
Yes...I remember being really irked when he lost the oscar for Dream Girls...he dug deep for that roll.
Yes, I totally agree, Eddie was majorly ROBBED 😔
The Man The Legend!! Eddie Just Classic. The Old School Stuff Was So Great. Love Eddie
Love Eddie Murphy!! ❤❤
Kelly Clarkson looks great!!!!👍🏾
Eddie is aging wonderfully! He looks fine❤
This interview is very choppy. Slow down Kelly. We love you ❤
The Eddie Murphy variety hour! Special feature.
Thr Golden Child was amusing.
I think we all just got a glimpse of what that Broadway show might look like. I'd wager Eddie's got some great stories to tell... great interview
All I heard Kelly say was "Me too" 😅
I'm such a fan of Eddie!! He's iconic! I love this franchise! Can't wait to see it! I'm surprised he didn't say people quote coming to America!! His catalog is impressive! I hope he keeps entertaining us!! Great interview!
Kellys the type that will ask the questions and answer them in the same sentence lol.. breathe. Let your guests respond, give them time, let it marinate!
Kelly was doing fine
Eddie is fun and amazing. Kelly, great interview... smiles & laughter.
Eddie❤️❤️
I love Eddie. He is just so naturally hilarious. ❤
Dear Kelly...We love u, BUT ask a question then....let the person answer maybe??
I love all of them, even the 3rd one!