My buddy and I upgraded from modded 50" class Can-Am MavT cars to 64" class MavS Xrc (same model year as Dave's) late last summer. Other than basic comfort/convenience accessories, our first mods were replacing OEM 30x10-14 Maxxis Liberty with 32x10-14 Maxxis Carnivore due to woeful lack of directional steering control with Liberty in the Arizona mountain terrain we run. We achieved objectives with Carnivore, yet both flatted tires 2 days apart within the first 200 miles during routine trail inspection runs. Since then in same terrain, no more flats but tires are showing substantial wear from relatively rough degraded granite shelf rock common here. From that for me at least, Rockzilla won't be next replacement due to Maxxis stated: "soft rock crawling tread" compound. I/we cover a lot of off-pavement miles per year, thus finding optimal balance of traction and steering control vs flat potential with open lug pattern and/or soft durometer compound tires will dictate what we choose. Most of those aspects have been outlined in various Maverick Forums thread topics (same user name), including this specific thread topic which might be of interest to Sport X-series 64" class variants: www.maverickforums.net/threads/mavs-xrc-64-class-vs-mavs-60-class-sway-bars-results.124090/
I have the Terrabites on my 21' 850 Sportsman, I personally LOVE them. They can take a beating on large rock trails and are awesome in mud. The tread between these two you're testing are not similar at all. The terra's are more of a truck mud type tire. Flat all terrain type tires with more contact patch would be better on slick rock.
You are 100% spot on with your rant! Thumbs up to you for including that in this video. I found that my 32" BFG KM3's were a very good tire on the slick rock in Moab, and they actually measure close to 32". With the weight of my KRX sitting on them, at 14 psi they measured 31-5/8". I run them at 10 psi on a regular basis. That seems to be their happy place. I have some videos from Moab where my buddy was in his '20 XP4 1000 with Terrabites. Between the tires and different machines, there was a noticeable difference. I know it's kind of cheating being in the KRX, but the KM3's had better sidewall flex and better grip. You better hope Garrett doesn't put on a set... LOL
@@DerangedOffRoad I've heard they wear very well on the streets. I believe it. I can't/don't ride on the streets here in Commyrado, but the 150 miles or so out in Moab last fall on the slick rock had no effect on them. They did not have the "took a belt sander to them" look that every other tire I've run out there has had. The rest of the miles have been in the jagged granite in the Rocky Mountains. I have a little over 500 miles on them with pretty much no visible wear other than slightly rounded edges on the lugs. I don't have a tread depth gauge, just my eyeballs, but other than the lug edges, they looked about like my brand new spare I mounted up. Kind of a strange tire. The rubber feels kind of soft, and grips like it's a soft compound, but they don't wear??? The sidewalls are also somehow strangely flexible and super tough all at the same time. BFG knows how to build an off-road tire. My 32-10-15 weighed in at 43 lbs per tire. Not too bad for a 32" steel belted radial. Be nice to Dave. Someday you miiiiight need a hand out on the trail. Hahaha
I'm with you on the composting toilet rant. THey have these up in the U.P. of Michigan where we visit a lot. They work great if folks use them properly. If they turn them into trash cans, the park services will remove them and hose us all over. Good rant my friend! I am very interested in the Terras for my woods and loose rock riding. I get into a little mud, but I don't try to sink it because I hate cleaning it up! LOL!
I agree with your rant, some SxS guys have no respect for anything, not the way I was raised. oleguy I'm a high mileage rider, all dirt, can't plate here. The Terrabites will probably outlast the Zillas by twice, so very different tire missions. fwiw: I'm running BFG K02s, have 2300 miles on them and still lookin' good.
@@DerangedOffRoad they get stickier as you break them in, just like every tire. Once you get used to them, and especially after clutching, you won’t want another tire at Sand Hollow
The last tires you ran were a beautiful tire. That was a kool video. Thanks. And yeah there are some real dirt bags out there. I don't like saying that but. I pick up trash everytime I go out. It's really to bad. Stay safe and God bless.
I couldn’t imagine living out west and not back east and not having to clean inches of mud off my x3. On the other side of that coin though, I couldn’t imagine not being able to pull the x3 out of my house and hit trails immediately either.
I’m on the fence between the Carnivore and the Rockzilla. I’m located on the east coast and do a lot of trail riding and some rocks. Any recommendations?
I’m heading to Cross Bar Off Road Park this Easter. Just got me some System 3s XT 300 in 33x10-15 for my Honda Talon. I wanted 32s but they didn’t make them for a 15” wheel. The 14” wheels are bad news on the Honda Talons for what I’ve seen. There will be between 8 to 12 SxS units in our group.
Very interesting watching the Zillas side wall flex and conform to the rock. That and the sticky compound make it easy to see why that tire hooks up so well. It would be interesting to see how a 32” Maxxis Liberty would work. It seems to be fairly soft and compliant. My top choices for new tires for my XP4 are the Terrabyte or the Liberty because I ride only about 2.7% on rocks. 🤣🤣 The Arisun I currently have rides like concrete blocks at anything over 10 psi. I’m really ready for some better comfort. Are you getting rid of the Terrabytes? Enjoyed the video! 👍👍😎
You want smoother less bouncy, need a rig with a different rear suspension. That's why the KRX and XP1K, X3, etc all have those long rear trailing arms. That double a arm rear suspension bucks WAY more. I love the way your rig looks but I'm not impressed by the suspension. I just watched a video of the new Commander, basically the same rig but with a bed. It bucks like crazy in the rear too.
You're right when it comes to fast paced whoops, the trailing arm suspension in superior. The biggest issue with the Maverick Sport in the rocks is it's wheelbase. 90" isn't ideal. The RZR, KRX and others are longer.
@@DerangedOffRoad All maxxis tires are junk way to soft and overpriced they last what 1k maybe 2k miles they have pushed the bighorn junk on us since the 90s all they do is spin out no traction on dirt and over 50 on pavement they feel like they are going to explode or go flat when you need them most but yet they cost the same as a 40k tire. Do a real test see how many more miles you will get out of the terrabites. I thought about getting libertys until i found out how soft they were and didnt last long at all that is the reason they can’t even pass a DOT test. Terrabites are twice the tire and will last 5 times longer than any maxxis soft junk.
@@utahvalleysxsx3trailriders320 maybe you missed the point of going with the zillas. It's because they are very soft. Everybody knows the Terrabites last for thousands of miles, who cares. I had 3,000 miles on my big horns that were on my Defender. No issues with those. To say all Maxx is tires are junk is pretty stupid. They make all kinds of tires for different situations. Your ideal tire isn't everybody's ideal tire. I give zero craps about dot tires and I'd bet that 75% of utv users care about dot
@@DerangedOffRoad i guess if you have the money to throw away on a tire you will use maybe 5 times a year going to moab or 10 times max some people like to waste money. You show me a maxxis tire that will outlast a terribite love to see that maxxis rubber is way to soft. They tried and make a dot tire and failed miserably with the liberty they aren’t even dot rated because they fail the tests. When i spend 200 bucks on a tire i want it to last in all terrains. Thats more than a 40 k tire. The more money u spend the longer it should last.
@@DerangedOffRoad you buy a soft tire it should have a soft price tag for sure cuz it wont last. 80 dollar tire they are charging 185 for is just dumb waste of money. People should know the truth on utube not be brainwashed by B.S. I will choose my 130 dollar terrabites any day of the week and get my moneys worth out of them on any terrain.
The new zillas are 32". I think 35" is a little much for the suspension components on this machine. Terrabites were a 32" tire also. Neither actually measure 32".
@@DerangedOffRoad you have to measure them out of the car,the weight,air pressure, stiffness of side wall will vary how much they compress with the veh load
What was wrong wit the "Liberty" tires? And I have to ask this question. Why do you not use a seat belt? shouldn't some sort of seat belt be used when your driving a UTV, and especially Rock Climbing. Seems you are really concerned about the TRASH, but not your safety. Just saying. I do watch all your video's, as good content.
There's nothing wrong with the liberties, . Just wanted to go up in size and try different options. As far as the seat belt goes, sometimes I choose not to put the shoulder straps on which is what you're seeing here. The lap belt is secured. Is it a good idea, and do I recommend it for others?? No. We can all probably do better when it comes to personal safety.
Actually it is a lot because it has only been getting worse out there. If you leave trash and clean up after yourself you’re not being put in a box plain and simple. 👍
Thanks for the comparison Dave, really appreciate your work.
Come out east and do a comparison in the rocky muddy woods !
My buddy and I upgraded from modded 50" class Can-Am MavT cars to 64" class MavS Xrc (same model year as Dave's) late last summer. Other than basic comfort/convenience accessories, our first mods were replacing OEM 30x10-14 Maxxis Liberty with 32x10-14 Maxxis Carnivore due to woeful lack of directional steering control with Liberty in the Arizona mountain terrain we run. We achieved objectives with Carnivore, yet both flatted tires 2 days apart within the first 200 miles during routine trail inspection runs. Since then in same terrain, no more flats but tires are showing substantial wear from relatively rough degraded granite shelf rock common here. From that for me at least, Rockzilla won't be next replacement due to Maxxis stated: "soft rock crawling tread" compound. I/we cover a lot of off-pavement miles per year, thus finding optimal balance of traction and steering control vs flat potential with open lug pattern and/or soft durometer compound tires will dictate what we choose.
Most of those aspects have been outlined in various Maverick Forums thread topics (same user name), including this specific thread topic which might be of interest to Sport X-series 64" class variants:
www.maverickforums.net/threads/mavs-xrc-64-class-vs-mavs-60-class-sway-bars-results.124090/
I have the Terrabites on my 21' 850 Sportsman, I personally LOVE them. They can take a beating on large rock trails and are awesome in mud. The tread between these two you're testing are not similar at all. The terra's are more of a truck mud type tire. Flat all terrain type tires with more contact patch would be better on slick rock.
You are 100% spot on with your rant! Thumbs up to you for including that in this video. I found that my 32" BFG KM3's were a very good tire on the slick rock in Moab, and they actually measure close to 32". With the weight of my KRX sitting on them, at 14 psi they measured 31-5/8". I run them at 10 psi on a regular basis. That seems to be their happy place. I have some videos from Moab where my buddy was in his '20 XP4 1000 with Terrabites. Between the tires and different machines, there was a noticeable difference. I know it's kind of cheating being in the KRX, but the KM3's had better sidewall flex and better grip. You better hope Garrett doesn't put on a set... LOL
How do you think they will hold up on the street as well? By the way I only need my stock tires to get the job done. 😂 -Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad I've heard they wear very well on the streets. I believe it. I can't/don't ride on the streets here in Commyrado, but the 150 miles or so out in Moab last fall on the slick rock had no effect on them. They did not have the "took a belt sander to them" look that every other tire I've run out there has had. The rest of the miles have been in the jagged granite in the Rocky Mountains. I have a little over 500 miles on them with pretty much no visible wear other than slightly rounded edges on the lugs. I don't have a tread depth gauge, just my eyeballs, but other than the lug edges, they looked about like my brand new spare I mounted up. Kind of a strange tire. The rubber feels kind of soft, and grips like it's a soft compound, but they don't wear??? The sidewalls are also somehow strangely flexible and super tough all at the same time. BFG knows how to build an off-road tire. My 32-10-15 weighed in at 43 lbs per tire. Not too bad for a 32" steel belted radial.
Be nice to Dave. Someday you miiiiight need a hand out on the trail. Hahaha
Awesome thanks for the input and yeah I have been trying to be way nicer these days. 😃
I'm with you on the composting toilet rant. THey have these up in the U.P. of Michigan where we visit a lot. They work great if folks use them properly. If they turn them into trash cans, the park services will remove them and hose us all over. Good rant my friend! I am very interested in the Terras for my woods and loose rock riding. I get into a little mud, but I don't try to sink it because I hate cleaning it up! LOL!
You might want to look at the new Megabites as well now. 👍-Garrett
@@DerangedOffRoad Will do!
Sand 40%, Trail 45% and Rock Crawling 15 %. What's your best tire for Sand Hollow and the Arizona Strip?
Being in Mississippi I don't have much use for rockzillas. Sandy and dirt rails or mud trails is all we have.
I agree with your rant, some SxS guys have no respect for anything, not the way I was raised. oleguy
I'm a high mileage rider, all dirt, can't plate here. The Terrabites will probably outlast the Zillas by twice, so very different tire missions. fwiw: I'm running BFG K02s, have 2300 miles on them and still lookin' good.
We already know the for sure answer to that question 😎
It really isn't a fair comparison. I need to ride some more of the zillas. I've got about a total of 20 minutes on them at this point.
-Dave
What Big Horns?
@@DerangedOffRoad they get stickier as you break them in, just like every tire. Once you get used to them, and especially after clutching, you won’t want another tire at Sand Hollow
The last tires you ran were a beautiful tire. That was a kool video. Thanks. And yeah there are some real dirt bags out there. I don't like saying that but. I pick up trash everytime I go out. It's really to bad. Stay safe and God bless.
Good test, I liked the rock tire.
What psi are you running in this video.(terrabites) It seemed the tires were not flexing as much as I am used to on my Maverick.
7 psi just like the Roxxillas. The Terrabites were the 10 ply version so they were likely stiffer.
Kool test! You should do it again with your sway bar removed if it’s not already? Need more flex!
I couldn’t imagine living out west and not back east and not having to clean inches of mud off my x3. On the other side of that coin though, I couldn’t imagine not being able to pull the x3 out of my house and hit trails immediately either.
We do not have mud here that’s for sure but we ride right from our house as well here. 👍
Have a 22 General xp1000 that I spend a lot of time on ATV trails and a little mud . Wanting to go with a 32x10x14 . What tire do you recommend?
Does it matter if you rock bounce or crawl just climb the hill. Myself I think I'm a rock bouncer in my Talon
I have the same machine… love it!!! What kind of Husky Box do you have??
I think it was a 25 gallon one from home depot
Did you have to do any clutching when going to the 32” tires? Also, any rubbing issues?
No clutch changes and no rubbing. It’s a great all around tire size to run on most machines.
Good to hear, thanks for the quick response!
I’m on the fence between the Carnivore and the Rockzilla. I’m located on the east coast and do a lot of trail riding and some rocks. Any recommendations?
remoce the rear antiswaybar and it'll crawl up it.
That's on my list of things to do!
I’m heading to Cross Bar Off Road Park this Easter. Just got me some System 3s XT 300 in 33x10-15 for my Honda Talon. I wanted 32s but they didn’t make them for a 15” wheel. The 14” wheels are bad news on the Honda Talons for what I’ve seen. There will be between 8 to 12 SxS units in our group.
I love the 300,they do great on everything i have throw on them except fast trails or Black top and no flats yet after 600 miles.
Love the rockzillas and I loved my husky box like you have until I upgraded to the x3. Now I have to use a bow case 🤣
What psi should I run these tires at when rock crawling in Moab? I have a Maverick sport max with 32 inch zillas.
Beadlocks?
Not beadlocks.
@danielbeaman9227 between 8 to 10 then.
@@DerangedOffRoadthanks!
Very interesting watching the Zillas side wall flex and conform to the rock. That and the sticky compound make it easy to see why that tire hooks up so well. It would be interesting to see how a 32” Maxxis Liberty would work. It seems to be fairly soft and compliant. My top choices for new tires for my XP4 are the Terrabyte or the Liberty because I ride only about 2.7% on rocks. 🤣🤣 The Arisun I currently have rides like concrete blocks at anything over 10 psi. I’m really ready for some better comfort.
Are you getting rid of the Terrabytes?
Enjoyed the video! 👍👍😎
The 2020 XRC came with 30 inch Maxxis liberties. IMO they do really well. Thats what he's running at 18:35.
What are those sunglasses?
Some cheap Amazon specials
What kind of windshield do you have? Looking for a similar one for a 2022 XP 4
It’s a Can Am Powerflip windshield.
Why did you air down the Roxxzilla and not the Terrabites? Just wondering.
Both sets were aired down to 7psi.
@@DerangedOffRoad oh ok. The Roxxzilla’s are softer?
The Roxxzilla are softer compound for sure. They're also an 8 ply sidewall as opposed to the 10 ply Terrabite Aramid tire.
@@DerangedOffRoad oh yeah that’s right. I forgot about the 10 ply’s. That would make a difference. TY sir.
You want smoother less bouncy, need a rig with a different rear suspension. That's why the KRX and XP1K, X3, etc all have those long rear trailing arms. That double a arm rear suspension bucks WAY more. I love the way your rig looks but I'm not impressed by the suspension. I just watched a video of the new Commander, basically the same rig but with a bed. It bucks like crazy in the rear too.
You're right when it comes to fast paced whoops, the trailing arm suspension in superior. The biggest issue with the Maverick Sport in the rocks is it's wheelbase. 90" isn't ideal. The RZR, KRX and others are longer.
How many miles will you get out of the soft rockzillas
Not sure. If I stay off the pavement I should get some pretty good life out of them,
@@DerangedOffRoad All maxxis tires are junk way to soft and overpriced they last what 1k maybe 2k miles they have pushed the bighorn junk on us since the 90s all they do is spin out no traction on dirt and over 50 on pavement they feel like they are going to explode or go flat when you need them most but yet they cost the same as a 40k tire. Do a real test see how many more miles you will get out of the terrabites. I thought about getting libertys until i found out how soft they were and didnt last long at all that is the reason they can’t even pass a DOT test. Terrabites are twice the tire and will last 5 times longer than any maxxis soft junk.
@@utahvalleysxsx3trailriders320 maybe you missed the point of going with the zillas. It's because they are very soft. Everybody knows the Terrabites last for thousands of miles, who cares. I had 3,000 miles on my big horns that were on my Defender. No issues with those. To say all Maxx is tires are junk is pretty stupid. They make all kinds of tires for different situations. Your ideal tire isn't everybody's ideal tire. I give zero craps about dot tires and I'd bet that 75% of utv users care about dot
@@DerangedOffRoad i guess if you have the money to throw away on a tire you will use maybe 5 times a year going to moab or 10 times max some people like to waste money. You show me a maxxis tire that will outlast a terribite love to see that maxxis rubber is way to soft. They tried and make a dot tire and failed miserably with the liberty they aren’t even dot rated because they fail the tests. When i spend 200 bucks on a tire i want it to last in all terrains. Thats more than a 40 k tire. The more money u spend the longer it should last.
@@DerangedOffRoad you buy a soft tire it should have a soft price tag for sure cuz it wont last. 80 dollar tire they are charging 185 for is just dumb waste of money. People should know the truth on utube not be brainwashed by B.S. I will choose my 130 dollar terrabites any day of the week and get my moneys worth out of them on any terrain.
Wildcat xx weed eater! I resemble that :)
Ha ha ha! That wildcat was decked out too! Too bad I didn't get any video of it. It was one good looking machine!
Well i tell you for sure what our friend @rockymountainbackcountry would say😂 🤣🤣
Ha ha! Yeah he's not a huge fan of the Terrabites on the rocks
@@DerangedOffRoad haha no he is not i think you csn here him in my video at the chute talking about them 😂😂
Freedom Factory hat 🦅👌
Ha ha! You're the only one who has ever noticed or commented on the hat. I wear it all the time too!
@@DerangedOffRoad Cleetus, PFISpeed, Boosted bois, JH Diesel, etc fanboy right here for sure. Haha
I've definitely spent way too many hours watching the same!
@@DerangedOffRoad I’m a Sr Network Engineer who works from home. I need something to drowned out the silence of my office. Lol
@@stoichiometry147 I got a few miniature versions of me I can send your way. You'll be begging for silence in no time!
That pisses me off as well man when I see outdoor toilets destroyed and trash on trails! Bullshit! Karma will pay them back!
$130 difference per tire. I’ll stick with the terabytes.
It wasn't that big of a spread back when I first got the Roxxzilla tires. They've gotten very expensive in the last six months
Still 32"? wait what??? shorter?
The new zillas are 32". I think 35" is a little much for the suspension components on this machine. Terrabites were a 32" tire also. Neither actually measure 32".
@@DerangedOffRoad you have to measure them out of the car,the weight,air pressure, stiffness of side wall will vary how much they compress with the veh load
What was wrong wit the "Liberty" tires? And I have to ask this question. Why do you not use a seat belt? shouldn't some sort of seat belt be used when your driving a UTV, and especially Rock Climbing. Seems you are really concerned about the TRASH, but not your safety. Just saying. I do watch all your video's, as good content.
There's nothing wrong with the liberties, . Just wanted to go up in size and try different options. As far as the seat belt goes, sometimes I choose not to put the shoulder straps on which is what you're seeing here. The lap belt is secured. Is it a good idea, and do I recommend it for others?? No. We can all probably do better when it comes to personal safety.
@@DerangedOffRoad Thanks for the reply.
Put a set of Bighorns on it!!!
Ole Dune YXZ loves him some big horns! 😜 -Joe
@@DerangedOffRoad The cats out of the bag!
A lot my but. There’s always a couple bad apples everywhere in life. You putting us in a box is foolish.
Actually it is a lot because it has only been getting worse out there. If you leave trash and clean up after yourself you’re not being put in a box plain and simple. 👍
@@DerangedOffRoad Yeah a hate that! Makes me sick. We carry an extra trash bag just for their lack of respect.
Nice video by the way.
If that was california that bathroom would not be the there.