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Bikepacking Overnighter Packing Tips
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2020
- Quick overview of things you need for an overnighter and 2.5 ways to pack them on various bikes.
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You provide such an important public service. I'm an injured trail runner, new to gravel biking, and most of what I know about my new passion I've learned from you. Thank you. I'm planning my first overnighter, and I the "room" organizing system is helping me feel less overwhelmed.
Never thought about categorizing my gear in terms of rooms - I like that!!!
I love my rear cargo rack & panniers! I also have the various small lightweight bags common in bikepacking and also have a single wheel cargo trailer and I like each setup for different reasons/ applications but I really like the pannier setup best overall. Cheers man 👍👍👍
Such a great post! Simple and straightforward Bikepacking information; with a calm and confident tone. Really enjoyed it!
Glad that you've showed a couple of variations; and especially panniers! Some folks get really up themselves at the mention of them. As though there's only one way to pack for Bikepacking!?
So a great big thumbs up! Thanks for taking the time and trouble to make this video! Take care.
I really appreciate the nod to panniers. For whatever reason, they have fallen "out of fashion" and people go to exorbitant lengths to avoid them, even when in many cases it's a simpler and superior solution (or at the very least, a viable alternative).
My bike is an old 1999 triathlon bike so it cant use racks, So I ended up going with a caradice style bag called a swift zeitgeist. got a brooks saddle and it all works amazingly together!
Panniers and single track do not mix very well
I’ve heard this before. Why not? I think weight distribution is mentioned in the video. Do panniers make sharp turns difficult? I’m not going to be flying through single track with stuff on my bike regardless of the setup. Maybe I just need to test different setups and see for myself. I would love some feedback. Thanks
I'm gearing up for my first over-nighter in a couple weeks, this was super helpful.
Well done Russ. I’m planning a trip soon and this comes at the right time.
Really great presentation! Dividing it by rooms is smart and I have learned too how a rack can help a shorter rider too.
Super helpful video and love the rooms of the house organization.
Love the carradice front bag. So much space 😍
this is so helpful. i was having trouble with thinking what i need to take and where to put it but this just made it so simple!
Really helpful video. Starting to wrap my head around a first solo overnighter. This really helped.
Thank you, sir, for this excellent and helpful overview of items we need for an overnighter! Wishing you safe trips! Stay blessed! Greetings from Sweden!
Getting creative over there Russ. Never thought about it like this but very memorable. 👍🏾
Love these kids of posts you do, no matter your experience you can pick up some pointers...
This Russ is why I'm a patron thank you! Need to up my amt though. Great work.
Absolutely. Thanks for another great video.
Love the house analogy. A bike is way better than an RV! I know they're only slightly cooler than a rear rack these days, but a long seat pack (ridiculed erotically by Ultraromance) is about the right shape for a tent.
Sweet, I like to conceptualise the outdoor gesr in the same way, bedroom has everything I need for sleeping etc. 😁
Great piece Russ. Grant Peterson would be proud! !
Thanks for this info. Yes i wish the Carridice style bags were less expensive. I've had to go with the sausage style. Durable and waterproof but yes more involved getting to your stuff. Thanks again!
Nice setup on the Crust. I use a Swift Ziegiest Bag, Relevate Seat bag , Frame bag and Swift Elwha bag . All I need to put on the Cutty or Warbird.
I think the folks at Rivendell are gracious enough to appreciate you spreading their wisdom
Another great video Russ! Sure I like the yard sale method and sweating the small stuff, but for riders just getting into bike packing I totally agree with your sentiment here.👍... Side note, I found cargo nets annoying after having one stretch out and turn into a big knot over multiple trips. Then found that just a few long misc. pieces of shock cord accomplish the same task, cut a few grams and allow for more flexibility/versatility for #basketpacking applications. I keep a few small hooked cords on hand to keep misc items more secure and a have a permeant piece zig-zagged though the bottom to hold stuff tight a foam pad I cut for the basket bottom (mainly used to keep glass beverage containers safe on long journeys lol). A spool is cheap and has other applications for gear repair and mortifications; as seen on your channel previously. Anyhow cheers like always!
Today is Sheldon Brown's Birthday. Pretty sure he'd be a subscriber. Cheers!
I prefer a rack and pannier.
Interesting to see that you use a duvet thingy instead of a sleeping bag.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Great video and very helpful
Thanks for showing bikepacking bags AND pannier setups! I still use rack and panniers for commuting on my old MTB and Salsa Journeyman. I am not going off road much so I don't worry about it bouncing around. I wouldn't mind seeing a review for trailers although I'm not sure it works well for the type of riding you're doing these days.
Great video. I think you should do more content like this. You're quite good at it.
Man, this is not how I expected Ira Glass to look. But still I love this channel even more than I love "this american life."
Lol I guess they kinda sound similar
Racks are awesome! Ty.
I have used so many ways to pack for trips and overnighters. I did just as you w/ the front and rear rack w/ dry bags frames bags, etc. This is totally overkill, but I switched to the Burley Travoy. Its nice to be able to just simply load up a gym bag with various compression bags to keep things organized, strap it on the trailer and go. I saw one of your reviews and the new Travoy is a lot better than the older model.
Better in what way? I know the new attachment arm extends now but besides that, not much else has changed other than the color.
@@MrDtgreen there are 3 significant improvements. 1. Wheel guards have been added to prevent what is being carried from rubbing against the wheels. 2. The connecting arm extends. This allows helps with tire clearance on larger bikes and maybe even racks. I haven't tried it with a rack attached yet. 3. The seat post mount utilizes a quick release. It's easier to switch from bike to bike. Heck, when riding with another, you easily could ask them to take over hauling the trailer in mid route.
Thanks Russ.
I have been using racks for over 35 years absolutely nothing wrong with them. I couldn't agree more with regards to sausage bags the carradice type bag really is better for organising the stuff within and you can guarantee those small items you need always work their way to the bottom of the sausage bag so you have to completely empty it to get at what you need.
S240 is one of the greatest ways to adventure!
Thank you for a very informative video. I also use a Carradice bag on the back the rear, but I use a basket on the front. I would like to mount a Carradice on the front, but I am not too sure how it is done. Could you talk more about how this might be done (if you did not already do so) If you did, can you direct me to the video ? Also, the Crust bike is very cool...
Very helpful! Can you do more vids like this for longer-duration rides too?
Basics are the same for e.g. three months, though probably more spares (sealant/plugs, tubes, derailleur hanger, chain, spokes, kitchen: stove!, sewing kit etc.), the more remote, the more components you should be able to repair, so check your kit and skills e.g. for hydro discs. More tools like dedicated hex/torx keys, spare clothing, thermal & rain shells. Bikewise a dynamo hub is a smart choice, plus connection for charging ( check e.g. sinewavecycles.com ). Starting from a longer weekend in a remote area, kit changes not much. Given you're not in different climatic zones, for which you could send supply/change/return boxes ahead, as thruhikers do). In desert regions you need more water per day, check how much food rations/fuel you want/need to carry before resupplying. Somewhere else maybe anti-bear food containers are obligatory for which you'd need e rack of sorts (or a trailer). Some choose routes incl. a pack raft passage, so packing setup depends on your minimal gear you have/want to take along.
The kitchen, the bedroom, the bathroom, the garage, and the library.
Great advice!
Any recs on a small 1-person tent under $100?
www.rei.com/product/168431/rei-co-op-passage-1-tent-with-footprint
Thanks Russ, this is a really helpful video! Could I ask what the exact rack is on that Jones bike? It looks like what I need for my Marin, as the rack in my parts bin won't fit it as the struts won't meet together at the seat-tube where it has it's eyelets, similar to your bike - thanks so much!
How do you like your Tarptent Double Rainbow? Have you been in any stormy weather? Also curious what quilt you are using, temperature rating and how you like it. Great way to look at how to group and pack your gear - thank you!
Perhaps if you put the panniers on a bike with long chainstays and carry the tent and some other stuff in front the weight distribution problem would be less of an issue.
Hey nice video, Russ. Can you tell us what is the rear rack you are using on this bike and is it any good? Cheers!
My husband and myself simple love your take on bike packing, touring. We did something like this years ago but we had two things not in your room..............children!. Had to have seats fitted to the Blackburn rear racks and front panniers carried on Blackburn low riders. Now Russ a question for you. My husband is going to replace his written off road bike and our local bike store as Surly bikes to order. He is thinking about the Long Haul Trucker, what do you think?. He will not be doing any gravel riding we don't have those types of road in our part of England. Thank you. KEEP SAFE!
I had a LHT for a few years. When equipped with wide tires, it's a couch on wheels. It's very adaptable and can go just about anywhere. I didn't keep it as I don't really like triple cranks and that's personal taste. It is also a bit heavy. There are ton's of write ups on the net about the LHT. It has a very loyal following. Test ride the LHT and the Cross Check. That'll give you a good idea of what's best to buy for you from that brand.
Check out PDW 'Bindle' racks. Has anyone used it? I'm going to make something like it myself, just to see if I like it. Seems like a pretty versatile idea.
Great video!
Love your 'rooms of the house' model for conceptualizing gear!
I have one question:
--> Where did you get that windbreaker?
It seemed to roll up into a cylindrical bundle the size of a can of Coca-Cola!
I want a windbreaker I can roll up, or pack into its own pocket, to a size so small it will fit easily into a pocket on my cycling jersey.
Thanks!
Great video. What kind of bags are you using? Brand / model, etc...
Laura on camera? Nice work team!
have you done a review of the super light weight tubes?
What did you call that red rubber strap you used to tie down with? I’ve looking for that instead of using bungee cord. *NVM - voile straps
Please do a video on the Jones set up, also, in your fashion video you mentioned plaid fly fishing shirts, got any brands you'd recommend?
@J K Patagonia
Columbia makes one that I picked up on sale on Amazon that's the same style if you want to save a couple bucks compared to Patagonia.
Any chance you could list all of the gear featured in the video? Both the bags on your bike and the camping gear you're putting in them? Thanks!
Yeah who makes that front bag?
@@souslesbombes Ron's Chest made by Swift Industries
I wouldn’t even think of doing a trip without a rack. I have front racks too.
I’d re-think
What is the brand of that top tube bag again?
NEVER, ever trust a bungie cord you can't keep your eyes on, as they can and will fail and you will lose part or all of your load. Nice video, thanks Russ.
May i know your size of wheelset and tires?thanks and have a safe ride.
One question...where does the cellar fit?
Can you please let us know which carradice-style bags you've got there? Thanks.
Bags by Bird
Been meaning to ask, whats the brand of your frame bag where you put your garage? i'm digging the colors but havent seen something like that online.
It's from Rogue Panda - he gives a peek into the process of having it made (including their cool "pandavision" process for custom fitting it to your frame based on a submitted photo) in this video: ruclips.net/video/HeTK4I8MYpw/видео.html
How much utility do you get from the frame bag? It looks like 90+% of everything is going in the front and back racks. I can see putting small dense things in the center of the bike, but I'm not sure what they would be -- tools, water? It seems like it's a lot of bag for not much volume.
If you’re a tall rider they are more useful.
Cool front rack on that pink bike, what is it?
Can someone tell me what brand tube Russ packed? No amount of pausing on the video will let me read it.
Tubilito
How do you shift when the front bag is practically pressed against the shifters?
It shifts fine. The bars are wide.
Nice practical visualization of how it can all fit. OF course I am a backpacker first, so my mind is just screaming, don’t gloss over the food and water (grins). You didn’t. I am a rack and panyers lower gravity type by choice.
Do you not take some lights, and locks to secure your ride while you're sleeping or if you have a supply run in a town you're passing through?
Sometimes.
“Mmmm rack and peanut steering ...” 😜 🥜
What water filtration system do you use?
That looks like a Katadyn Befree.
How do you feel about trailers? Especially an in-line single wheel one, lesser so the child chariots 🤣
Not a fan of single wheel trailers. Too much lateral torque on the bike.
What type of rear rack this that? Love the minimal size of it.
Tubus! Not sure wich model though, check out their website :)
@@olleolofsson12 not anything that look like this on their site.. www.tubus.com/en/products
its good to check before write..
damn, I want a bombora
...said everyone
what brand of panniers is shown in the video?
Swift industries.
which bags are you using in the first setup?
Bags by Bird bags.
Where would you put the food in those setups?
First set up in the rear bag. In the second in the left pannier.
no panniers for me just cant do em.
Why aren’t racks en vogue?
Did I miss something, or is there no food?
Who makes the bags you have on your Crust?
Bags by Bird
which tent do you use?
Tarptent.
Why is a rack not en Vogue ?
It’s odd to think that racks not being “in vogue” would worry some people. But it does.
Racks are still in vogue in Munich where everyone commutes to work with their laptop/sports gear/other essentials, day-trippers with their entire picnic for a group of friends with food and drinks, cyclists on their day adventures, and bike tourists on their long travels. I think they are a timeless item for anyone in need of a more supple ride :)
If I had to take a guess, it would be most Americans are car centric. They look at bicycles as toys....
Agreed - they are so practical. My girlfriend and I just rode across Ohio both on fairly vintage bikes with racks and panniers.
what's the front rack? looks neaaat
What is this rear rack? I can't find it on your YT channel.. :
it is not a tubu.. at least i can't find it on tubus site www.tubus.com/en/products
Tumbleweed rack
@@PathLessPedaledTV thank you!
Food?
2 burritos.
cycle touring setup Overnighter Packing Tips #S24O you mean
What about food?
It’s an overnighter. 2 burritos.
Book the Best Western
Food man, where's your food and water (and/or adult beverage)?
I was wondering where the MacAllans was kept myself...
Step 1: Determine where to safely stow bike. Step 2: Make B&B reservations. Step 3 … 😉
“Not in vogue” but practical. I just don’t get why Bikepacking culture is so set on bags. So much easier with racks and mounts.
Also on singletrack, I find a bag setup performs better on rough terrain, especially for MTB. It doesen't have to be fancy bags either. I've used homemade duct tape bags for 3 years now with no failure. They are watertight, easily repairable (Duct tape haha) and cost 40$ or less. www.pinkbike.com/u/GravityCandy/blog/bikepacking-on-a-budget.html
Bike packing has become a bit of a broad subject. Some think of it as traveling to campsites on single track, some think of it as riding on gravel or both. For the most part a very good set of bags on a rack will pass through single track unharmed. The true disadvantage of racks are the weight. Bags eliminate a bit of weight as well as distributes the weight along the full length of the bike. If you are riding at party pace and don't mind the weight and handling, then it doesn't matter.
Tons of bikepackers use racks. Look at bikepacking.com, they feature bikes with rack set ups all the time. The reason you don't see them on more "serious" setups is they perform poorly on rough terrain. A rack/basket set up is great for paved roads and gravel but just won't last long if you're going over bumpy stuff.
Another thing with avoiding racks and going with all strap on bag systems is they can work with more bikes. I specifically bought a bike with lots of mounting points so I could do racks and fenders easily. But another bike I have, lots of road bikes out there, etc, they don’t have mounts for racks. Hence bring on the sausage rolls and frame bags. Just mho. All are good ways to go.
Yeah Russ you didn’t show how to pack food & water
It would be really easy if I didn’t have to find places for those things also
Water in the cages and food in the bags. It’s an overnighter so I usually just bring two burritos.
@@PathLessPedaledTV Assuming burrito #2 is breakfast, do you carry something to protect it from bears and other animals overnight?
"straps are not in vouge"?
... did you forget that you're bike packing?
I said “racks” not straps.
I am looking forward to trying this out this weekend. Have 2 night trip planned. Only downside is that the post office lost my Carradice Handlebar bag I ordered. I guess I will have to strap a random dry bag to my handlebars. My bathroom/closet is 3x larger though, but I think it will make for a comfortable trip,
I have a Rogue Panda bag in USPS mail right now. I am terrified. 😬