Zionism Before Herzl (1882-1896)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025

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  • @SamAronow
    @SamAronow  2 года назад +201

    *NOTE:*
    We’re now in a period of Jewish history that is much more well-known (at least within the tribe), and that means that I can’t mention every single important figure that you may have heard of. I’m limited primarily by (1) the need for a well-paced, narratively coherent video, which requires avoiding information that’s technically relevant but unnecessary, and (2) the amount of time I can spend on each video while keeping to a semi-monthly schedule that prevents the RUclips algorithm from burying me. This will become even more apparent in the next video, which theoretically could involve almost every public figure in the entire western world. So apologies for not mentioning The Perushim, Haim Bibas, Chaim Zvi Schneersohn, or Menahem Ussishkin.

    • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
      @gyllenspetzfamily7993 2 года назад +9

      I'm sure you will cover everything needed over time. No need to rush. Weird, RUclips is telling you just published this an hour ago but your posting here says two days ago, hope I'm not late.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +18

      Yeah, you're not. I was sharing it with my voice actors in advance before going public.

    • @SonofLiberty-zw7op
      @SonofLiberty-zw7op 2 года назад +4

      Keep up the good and wise pace for yourself. You do such good work, we want you to continue without burning out or being too pressured by YT. Another well done segment.

    • @samuelkatz1124
      @samuelkatz1124 2 года назад +3

      As long as you don't ignore the Bund, I'm good. Lot of family history with them and it often gets thrown under the bus to talk about Zionism

    • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
      @gyllenspetzfamily7993 2 года назад +1

      @@SamAronow oh good, RUclips can be strange so I check. Don't worry about your pace, one of my favorite channels, Fall of Civilizations , only posts once every 2 months. Millions of views, if you go to their channel you will see why, excellent research, stunning visuals obviously comes from old money but nice folks. The algorithm will adjust and more people will find you. You do excellent work. This video gave me a new perspective on aliyah. Thank you.

  • @Kraut_the_Parrot
    @Kraut_the_Parrot 2 года назад +321

    Many thanks for inviting me to be a part of this :)

    • @barakdan1858
      @barakdan1858 2 года назад +19

      Love your videos too man, thanks for helping Sam :)

    • @bobg9
      @bobg9 2 года назад +7

      if only whatifalthist was here thats all my favorite history RUclipsrs in one video :)

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 2 года назад +9

      I'm very glad to see you guys collaborating! I imagine it will bring much new attention to Sam.

    • @rigelbound6749
      @rigelbound6749 2 года назад +7

      It's awesome to see you contributing to the growth of fellow history channels on RUclips.
      Maybe in a year or two you can make an Illiberal Democracies sequel about Israel, as it seems the country I grew up in is rapidly changing for the worse. It is actually quite fascinating, and I believe it would make for an interesting video essay. Glass half full.

    • @YarroGr
      @YarroGr 2 года назад +5

      I wondered when will you show up on this channel; it always had seemed inevitable to me for some reason. I love both of your channels very very much.
      What does your acknowledgment of this channel mean about your future plan of making a three part video about the history of the Jewish people? I remember reading about it in your future projects document.

  • @MetatronsRevenge613
    @MetatronsRevenge613 2 года назад +160

    28:30 He predicted 100+ years of future conflict. That's insane

    • @histori6259
      @histori6259 Год назад +23

      If only the Israeli state listened to his warnings!!

  • @petergershon4734
    @petergershon4734 Год назад +132

    What fascinates me about Ahad Ha’am is that a lot of his criticisms of the early Zionist movement are still applicable to the modern state of Israel. Mistreatment of the Arabs, over reliance on foreign aid and foreign investment he was a smart guy

    • @عليياسر-ذ5ب
      @عليياسر-ذ5ب Год назад +9

      A strange man seems to have finished the Freemasonry movement in order to know this information

  • @ajschlesinger
    @ajschlesinger 2 года назад +31

    Sam, I really appreciate your use of video game music throughout the series. It reminds me of the times I spent binge watching Jacob Geller's channel, then learning about our shared heritage through his essay on Wolfenstein.
    It also reminds me of growing up as a little kid in long island. I never thought my older brother's Zelda obsession would lead me down a long winding path to this video series, ultimately reconnecting me to my ancestors. It's wild how we can all be on the same wavelength without ever knowing one another.

  • @marcello7781
    @marcello7781 2 года назад +33

    I'm doing an extensive research on Zionism in these days and these videos come right in time. Many thanks!

  • @מ.מ-ה9ד
    @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +52

    8:08
    In 1939 Jews were the largest ethnic group in Odessa. In 1941 there were almost none.

  • @LordScreech
    @LordScreech Год назад +19

    So hard-hitting and prescient, that line from Ha'Am... "This sudden change has planted despotic tendencies in their hearts, as always happens to former slaves..."

  • @formulaone07
    @formulaone07 2 года назад +37

    9:08 "But it came at a significant time in the Jewish history of Europe". Notice the map of France during the time of the 1870 Franco-Prussian War, which was around the time of the Odessa riots depicted in this video. The rise of Bismark's German Empire and the subsequent taking of Alsace-Lorraine would arguably play a pivotal yet accidental role in the development of Zionism less than 30 years later.

    • @Jaynat_SF
      @Jaynat_SF 2 года назад +1

      Seems like that's exactly what he'll cover in the next episode.

    • @sportzajent
      @sportzajent 2 года назад +1

      Will you elaborate more on this idea @formulaone07? I’m curious to learn more

    • @formulaone07
      @formulaone07 2 года назад +3

      @@sportzajent i assume Sam will get around to mentioning it in one of the upcoming videos, so I prefer not to offer any spoilers. If you don't learn about this in a future video, I will try to remember to elaborate later.

  • @gyllenspetzfamily7993
    @gyllenspetzfamily7993 2 года назад +21

    I love it when Sam does a video that connects with little pockets of history I know.

  • @derondo2
    @derondo2 2 года назад +43

    I wish you could make a clip about the continuity of Jewish presence in Palestine and the attempts, even by spiritual people alone, to come and settle there. Even before Christian
    Zionism, for example the Vilna Gabon’s students in 1808 from Shklov. Only you could draw a timeline connecting the Bar Kokhva revolt, the Masoretes in 10th century Tiberias, the Ramban in Acres in 13th century, Shabtay Zvi in 16th century, etc.

    • @derondo2
      @derondo2 2 года назад +11

      Vilna *Gaon*

    • @bomdiacolega3081
      @bomdiacolega3081 Год назад

      That would be a very valuable idea, since today there is very peculiar phenomenon where most of history being taught around the world, hides all of this information when approaching the subject of the beggining of the Israeli-arab conflict and makes the students to have the wrong perception that the jews came in batches all of a sudden to the holy-land im a matter of couple of years, when this is false and in interest of fullfilling one side of the narrative.
      So having a clear picture of the truth, of a constant presence of the jews there, and also telling about the presence(or lack) of other people and their quantities accross the centuries and decades telling why the land was mostly empty and why is now full of people claiming a stake, could draw a clear picture that this land was transformed an re-transformed up until de end of the XIV century where this noble jews investing in agricuture, new neighborhoods and clearing deseases from swamp areas made people of both jew and arab sides to flock the area searching for new opportunities.

  • @EladLerner
    @EladLerner 2 года назад +49

    RISHON LEZION REPRESENT!!
    Wow, what an episode. I got literal chills when you revealed Ehad Haam's name.

  • @tombirmingham7033
    @tombirmingham7033 Год назад +35

    that part about how people that were oppressed oppressing others really got to me. hurt people, hurt people.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  Год назад +31

      It's even in the Bible! God makes the Israelites wander in the wilderness for 40 years to prevent a country from being run by former slaves.

    • @tombirmingham7033
      @tombirmingham7033 Год назад +5

      @@SamAronow There's another view of it is that they wandered the desert for that period of times they could build-up their numbers before they invaded another country to conquer it

  • @senttiee
    @senttiee 2 года назад +6

    I'm so excited to have finally caught up. Thanks so much for these videos!

  • @schrodingersmoose
    @schrodingersmoose 2 года назад +11

    A very informative look into an often misunderstood (to put it lightly) and interesting history. Great video as usual!

  • @SomasAcademy
    @SomasAcademy 2 года назад +15

    ~23:33 "If they were going to make a new life there, it had to be by working the land themselves, not hiring other poor people to do it" Comrade moment?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +16

      Surprisingly, Ahad HaAm was a Classical Liberal, which put him at odds with the vast majority of Zionists at this time. However, he sided firmly with the socialists in opposition to the pure Political Zionism of fellow liberal Theodor Herzl, of which there will be much to say in the future.

    • @מ.מ-ה9ד
      @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +3

      @@SamAronow
      Liberal? Herzl was a fierce supporter of unions and worker rights. Even the flag he proposed for the Jewish state reflects that.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +12

      You can be a Liberal and support unions and workers' rights. We're about to have a whole big talk about the Progressive Era in the US and that's a big part of it.

    • @simko8665
      @simko8665 2 года назад

      They tried doing it but failed since they weren't farmer in Russia. After a while they became skilled workers and didn't need the locals anymore.

  • @BS-vx8dg
    @BS-vx8dg Год назад +7

    I'm less than 20% into this video and you have already upended much of what I thought I knew. This is going to have major ramifications for my personal understanding of the 20th century history of the region.

  • @jameslooker4791
    @jameslooker4791 Год назад +11

    This was a very informative video for me. I basically had the opposite impression of Hertzl's influence on Zionist history. I thought the abstract idea of Zionism had been widely circulating for years, but it seemed very unattainable until Hertzl problem solved it enough that the idea seemed worth serious investment. Now I see Hertzl much more as the person that energized Zionism in the way we would talk about a social media influencer or politician. I still see how the conventional, "Father of Zionism" is true, but from a very different angle.

  • @icysaracen3054
    @icysaracen3054 2 года назад +16

    I was wondering if you can do a video on secular/non religious Jews who had taken up European ideologies like Fascism, Communism and anarchism and how they all interacted with one another in the new state of Israel.

  • @palsyr4307
    @palsyr4307 Год назад +45

    Well there were also many Christians in Palestine too, many likely being descendants of Jews and were persecuted by Islamic Caliphates for a time as well as the crusaders but still survived to this day as Palestinian Christians like my family and we still pray in the Aramaic language. We share many of the horror the Jews went through as a people including the Ottoman genocide with our Aramaic speaking communities in southern Turkey (where Aramaic speaking Jews also lived.) Yet now israel is persecuting us today and the israeli government does not recognize the ottoman genocide of our communities.

  • @thefisherking78
    @thefisherking78 2 года назад +15

    My goodness, your work is truly incredible.

  • @davidlisovtsev6607
    @davidlisovtsev6607 2 года назад +6

    ok very well done my dude, it's fun to learn more about the people whose names are streets in my area

  • @מ.מ-ה9ד
    @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +15

    13:12
    There is a mistake. The Moshava was called "Zamerin" (A Jewish or Samaritan name from the Second Temple period or the Mishna period which in the Aramaic-Samaritan language probably means 'growers') after the name of the area by the local Arab land tenant.
    It was named "Zamerin" because it reminded the immigrants, both the name "Zmarin" and "Sameria" (Shomron in Hebrew).
    Today it is called "Zichron Ya'akov".

    • @מ.מ-ה9ד
      @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад

      @@chimera9818
      That's exactly what I said...

    • @מ.מ-ה9ד
      @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад

      @@chimera9818
      What? The "E" and the "A"? That is still the same.

  • @sfrish
    @sfrish 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for yet another brilliant fascinating episode.

  • @sevelofficial2696
    @sevelofficial2696 2 года назад +33

    Interesting to hear you mention how in Israel religious authorities still have power in marriage. Last year I took a class on the Middle East and the teacher mentioned how Israel uses a lot of jurisprudence from the Ottomans, to the point where Turkish is still known by some legal experts to read old Ottoman law.

    • @palsyr4307
      @palsyr4307 Год назад +6

      interesting, israel also does not recognize the Armenian genocide

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for posting
    Always enjoy your videos !

  • @kurtrambus2728
    @kurtrambus2728 Год назад +4

    Wow. Thank you for this information.

  • @SomasAcademy
    @SomasAcademy 2 года назад +12

    ~27:54 "They were slaves in their diasporas, and suddenly finding themselves with unlimited freedom... This sudden change has planted despotic tendencies in their hearts, as always happens to former slaves..." Not sure how well that quote applies to all former slaves as he suggests, but it reminded me strongly of Liberia, the US colony founded as a place to resettle former slaves (partly by white racists who just really didn't want free Black people around them, partly by people who thought that Free Black people would never be safe from oppression in America). When they arrived, Afram settlers promptly instituted a similarly intense social caste system to the one in America, just with themselves as the elites and native Liberians as an underclass, with some native Liberians even being enslaved to work on Americo-Liberian plantations. Quite a literal reflection of the quote.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +10

      I mean, this is a political paradox that is even in the Bible, and in his original text that's what he references, but reading I couldn't help but think of the instances where that very emphatically _didn't_ happen. Iraq is probably the most prominent current example. Honestly, it seemed like the kind of subject Kraut would be interested in.

    • @thecoloroctet1365
      @thecoloroctet1365 2 года назад +2

      @@SamAronow I’m surprised you didn’t mention Ahad ha’am’s socialist leanings. The part in “The Truth from Eretz Israel” where he talks about the Arab landowners price-gouging Jews for tiny plots of dirt had me rolling

    • @mew11two
      @mew11two 2 года назад +1

      A similar situation happened in Haiti. As soon as they kicked out the French, the new Haitian ruling class became the new slave masters.

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 2 года назад

      @@mew11two No?

  • @millero15
    @millero15 2 года назад +14

    Small correction at 15:59 - Kattowitz was in Silesia, in the German Empire, not in Austria.

  • @charleskutner6346
    @charleskutner6346 2 года назад +2

    Excellent job, thanks for the depth and clarity of such a succinct history

  • @solareclipse4241
    @solareclipse4241 2 года назад +6

    please keep making great content.

    • @marksimons8861
      @marksimons8861 2 года назад

      And repeat after the first iteration!

  • @thedemongodvlogs7671
    @thedemongodvlogs7671 2 года назад +9

    Can't wait for the Dreyfus episode!!

  • @Rocinante2300
    @Rocinante2300 2 года назад +2

    I enjoy your music selections

  • @doyouknoworjustbelieve6694
    @doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 Год назад +43

    You put Beirut well INSIDE Palestine and portrayed Palestine as an arid abandoned land.
    My Palestinian grandfather and his brothers and sisters owned citrus farmland in Yaffa which they inherited from their parents. They sold oranges and lemons to Egypt and Syria. Many families farmed for Olives and different fruits and vegetables. Palestinian were also skilled merchants and fishermen. We had established cities and villages. We have our own local dialects, food, traditional cloths and music.
    My Muslim Palestinian dad used to play in the neighbourhood with the children of his Jewish and Christian neighbour. THEY ALL SPOKE ARABIC…

  • @isab0435
    @isab0435 2 года назад +3

    OHH shit two of my favorite channels in one vid. Kraut and Sam. Didn't know that they knew each other. Happy to see that they do 👍👍👍👍😁😁

  • @Grey000
    @Grey000 2 года назад +20

    Heretical is an overstatement. One could say it was against what the gemara said, but in terms of what constitutes heresy and what doesn't, no one would classify aliyah in those terms. Otherwise all those rabbinic figures who made aliyah never would've done it.

  • @SaraLevins
    @SaraLevins 2 года назад +1

    I’m afraid i’ll lose sleep watching all your videos. I can’t stop watching!

  • @spaguettoltd.7933
    @spaguettoltd.7933 Год назад +3

    Fantastic video. Looking for context about what’s going on right now, and I knew I should turn to your videos to help.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  Год назад +4

      And I'm glad you came to _this_ video, because it shamefully gets way fewer views than the Herzl one.

    • @spaguettoltd.7933
      @spaguettoltd.7933 Год назад

      @@SamAronow 😸

  • @hillelstoliar6003
    @hillelstoliar6003 2 года назад +5

    This whole channel is just putting all the street names I grew up around in historical context

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 2 года назад +6

    The dark opening is accomplished best with a cat playing with a finger

  • @myriam8947
    @myriam8947 2 года назад +6

    عمل جيد 🙏 شكرا !

  • @jacksonevans5679
    @jacksonevans5679 2 года назад +5

    Now, the only two historians we're missing are Blue from OSP and History Matters.

  • @alsatusmd1A13
    @alsatusmd1A13 2 года назад +4

    Petah Tikvah…I know about that place from the musical The Band’s Visit, where the band is supposed to go there, but they have Arabic accents and end up in Bet HaTikvah, in the middle of nowhere, instead.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад

      And Beit HaTikva is actually Yeruham.

    • @simko8665
      @simko8665 2 года назад

      I live in PT...

  • @snufkin7169
    @snufkin7169 2 года назад +2

    Amazing episode as always

  • @trevor1667
    @trevor1667 2 года назад +2

    Well done mate, I think you’ve got it, just don’t let it become complacency.

  • @alterklausner3885
    @alterklausner3885 2 года назад +5

    It’s weird that he chose Echad Ha’Am as his name despite the fact that the classical interpretation is that Echad Ha’Am refers to a king

  • @nadavbruchim7377
    @nadavbruchim7377 2 года назад +2

    im learning this in history class right now so this is also a perfect summery

  • @israeluncovered3653
    @israeluncovered3653 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic content as always :)

  • @naapalm82
    @naapalm82 2 года назад +4

    If the next episode is what I think it is, then it will cover reason I can never hear the Marseilles without cringing or feeling sick.

  • @iillii5
    @iillii5 Год назад +3

    Excellent research

  • @zacharytrosch3406
    @zacharytrosch3406 2 года назад +6

    Oh hey, we're going to learn about Julia Louis-Dreyfus's ancestry in the next episode!

  • @מ.מ-ה9ד
    @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +3

    6:09
    Gei Oni is today the main street of Rosh Pina. I've been there many times and it does look from an old period.
    But I didn't know it was THAT old...

    • @sleepworthy8349
      @sleepworthy8349 2 года назад

      rosh pina is considered by many (many sixth generation residents of rosh pina) to be the first ever mosava in reality that is generally considered to be false but it still is one of the oldest

  • @VillainousHanacha
    @VillainousHanacha 2 года назад +11

    3:50 this actually doesn't surprise me, in fact growing up I was always under the impression that Israel was not a religiously correct idea because of the lack of a messiah.
    This impression I had I would later find out was due to the fact I grew up in Borough Park, a neighborhood in Brooklyn that is a Hasidic stronghold with the Bobovs and Satmars particularly well represented (my family were the only gentiles on the block I grew up on). It wasn't until later in life that I learned that there were religious Jews that were also Zionists.

  • @theklorg305
    @theklorg305 2 года назад +5

    Just what did Ha’am mean when he attacked Jewish views towards Arabs in Palestine? I heard this idea before in my Jewish education, but when asked for examples I have only been given that Arabs were employed as farm-workers, which was a socially lower job. For a movement struggling in agriculture and with limited funds, that strikes me as incredibly petty.

    • @MrLute101
      @MrLute101 2 года назад

      That’s all the Arabs could do- generally speaking

  • @bluequiltedness
    @bluequiltedness Год назад +3

    23:18 "He didn't come back for you." Brutal reference! How many people got it? You'd have to be Canadian, remember the 2011 federal election, and know that Michael Ignatieff is the descendant Nikolay Ignatyev (and have some idea of who Ignatyev was). These vids have layers!

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  Год назад +3

      I didn't actually know that Michael Ignatieff is his descendant; I was just making a stupid joke that you're the first person to notice.

    • @bluequiltedness
      @bluequiltedness Год назад

      @@SamAronow Yes indeed! I looked it up again and Michael Ignatieff is the great-grandson of Nikolay. I guess their family, being aristocrats, escaped the Russian revolution and reinvented themselves as members of Canada's upper crust

    • @عليياسر-ذ5ب
      @عليياسر-ذ5ب Год назад

      ​@@bluequiltednessKhazari being smart and stupid at the same time is amazing

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Год назад

      @@عليياسر-ذ5ب it's called being cunning but not necessarily intelligent.

  • @paulsevenitz616
    @paulsevenitz616 Год назад +2

    Sam are You safe so far? Wish You and Your Close ones Strenght Health and Safety !

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 2 года назад +1

    Hearing Kraut on this channel is such a godsend tbh

  • @jsiolkowski
    @jsiolkowski 2 года назад +4

    Quick note: Kattowitz (modern day Katowice) was located in the German Empire, not Austria-Hungary.

  • @TwilightBornGirl
    @TwilightBornGirl 2 года назад +1

    Amazing. Thank you!

  • @JaJDoo
    @JaJDoo 2 года назад +4

    hey, regarding attitude towards jews in Yemen you mentioned around 14:00, do you have a source you can provide? its hard to find good sources on antisemetism outside of europe

    • @yotamrappaport6577
      @yotamrappaport6577 2 года назад +1

      There's a section about jewish and muslim relations in the wikipedia article about yemenite jews: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Jews.
      If you want more in depth details about yemenite jews in the modern era, try finding some of Dr. Menashe Anzi lectures.

  • @peterwilms3510
    @peterwilms3510 2 года назад +3

    Thanks to Sam aronau,l once learned a lot of jewish history, and Sam Aronov provided much angles I never heard off that I really enjoy his work🌷🇳🇱🌷💖Peeter 💖🐴🐴🐴🥁🐴🐴🐴

  • @GnosticInformant
    @GnosticInformant 2 года назад +3

    NICE Zelda music!

  • @bww2160
    @bww2160 Год назад +1

    I really appreciate the Zelda music in this video at 1:58

  • @denizalgazi
    @denizalgazi 2 года назад +12

    1870s Chris tian Zi o nism is the backdrop of George Eliot's Victorian novel Daniel Deronda. I recommend the book or watch the lovely 2002 mini series. Thank you for another wonderful vid! 👍

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +21

      I'm (allegedly) working on a miniseries based on a novel that was a Jewish critique of _Daniel Deronda._

    • @denizalgazi
      @denizalgazi 2 года назад +2

      @@SamAronow As an Englishman, Daniel being Jewish in British culture is what appeals to me and the pull that Judaism has on one's soul. I don't focus on the Zi on ism storyline. I can't fault Eliot because of her Chris tian perspective. Certainly handled better than Dickens! 👍

  • @pigegg100
    @pigegg100 2 года назад +1

    Sam, I love u! Thx for your videos!

  • @mane4209
    @mane4209 Год назад +4

    Bro, you can't have Final Fantasy music (or is it Zelda?) in the background of your video. I can't concentrate on what you're saying. xD

  • @rafradeki
    @rafradeki 2 года назад +8

    Small correction, kattowitz was german city though

    • @simko8665
      @simko8665 2 года назад

      Today in Poland.

  • @Jaynat_SF
    @Jaynat_SF 2 года назад +3

    Is there a reason you named pre-Rothschild Zikhron Ya'akov "Shomron" rather than "Zamarin"?
    I've also read that the name Shomron was used but mostly because it sounded similar to the existing Arabic name for the place "Zamarin" and one of the suggested etymologies for "Zamarin" is that there used to be a Samaritan settlement in that area. But as I was growing up in Zikhron I never seen or heard anyone use the term "Shomron", while some places (hotels, restaurants, etc.) use "Zamarin" in their branding, and my grandfather, who was born in the town long after its name was changed to Zikhron Ya'akov, still introduces himself as "Zamarini" when meeting Arabs while visiting nearby villages, so I just assumed that Zamarin ended up being the common name before the name change...
    Could that be the case, or maybe it was Shomron but reverted to Zamarin later in the public conciousness to avoid confusion with the Shomron region (today in the West Bank)?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +2

      My sources were also confusingly worded and I got mixed up.

    • @Jaynat_SF
      @Jaynat_SF 2 года назад

      @@chimera9818 my grandfather also says that it's related to flutes/music because it's from the root זמ”ר but that sounds more like a folk etymology to me.

  • @CaptainTowll
    @CaptainTowll 2 года назад +2

    The music choices in this one were a bit strange when compared to the test of the series

  • @primarytab902
    @primarytab902 2 года назад +4

    1:46 do you have a particular source for this?

  • @musicfromthezone
    @musicfromthezone 2 года назад +12

    Funny how until today Jews abroad have a lot criticism on the relations Israelis have with the Arabs without having any experience of living with them

    • @mew11two
      @mew11two 2 года назад +1

      Really makes you think.

  • @Danidan282
    @Danidan282 2 года назад +3

    Vary good video! But I have noticed that you are dispalying Hovevi Zion as a completely secular organization, but many orthodox rabbis were part of it. For example HaRav Muhaliver and Hanatziv MeVolozin. A big part of the leadership and members of Hibat Zion were religious. Not to mention your idea that Zionism was created by the Hascala. It was a factor, but as you stated on the video, many of the Proto Zionists were rabbis (And the students of the vilna gaon who actually came to Israel).

  • @jeannebouwman1970
    @jeannebouwman1970 2 года назад +5

    19:05
    soooo everyone?

  • @solemanali7448
    @solemanali7448 2 года назад +15

    Jews deserve better
    They suffered enough

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 Год назад +3

      They haven't suffered any more than anyone else. People have a bad habit of doing bad things and then wondering why they have problems. And when people migrate to new places, both they and the people they wander among have problems.

  • @palsyr4307
    @palsyr4307 Год назад +15

    Wow, what Ahad HaAm said blew my mind. If only his wise perspective at the time became what zionism is, then Israelis would have no better friends than Palestinians and build a country together. Worst thing to do is pit us sharp and shrewd Semites against each other haha ✊✊✌

  • @rigelbound6749
    @rigelbound6749 2 года назад +18

    It's incredible just how much Ahad HaAm was correct.

    • @tzvi7989
      @tzvi7989 2 года назад

      However tho while there is some truth to what ahad haAm said there he does completely fetishise the arabs and make the same fallacy you see western left-wingers make time and time again - cozy up to minorities (or in this case the "other" group) and treat them as a monolith instead of as individuals

    • @מ.מ-ה9ד
      @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +1

      Correct about what exactly?

    • @superelizabeth9253
      @superelizabeth9253 2 года назад

      How was he correct?

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 2 года назад

      @@superelizabeth9253 Well Palestinians are quite vengeful, law is on the side of Israelis in totality and he predicted this 50 years ago.

    • @avgvstvs7
      @avgvstvs7 2 года назад

      @@superelizabeth9253 Other than that his prediction of slaves becoming slavemasters is also incredible.

  • @sodadrinker89
    @sodadrinker89 2 года назад +7

    Oh shit, Dreyfus affair next!

  • @yakov95000
    @yakov95000 2 года назад +5

    Herzl is coming...

  • @ffreeze9924
    @ffreeze9924 2 года назад +7

    1:32 Cat.

  • @larry3591
    @larry3591 Год назад +2

    Awsome

  • @MetatronsRevenge613
    @MetatronsRevenge613 2 года назад +4

    2:00 OMG SONG OF STORMS OOT

  • @pmontu333
    @pmontu333 Год назад +11

    What Ahad Ha’An said sounds incredibly prophetic.

  • @gideonhorwitz9434
    @gideonhorwitz9434 2 года назад +2

    Hey Sam hope ur well.
    I know ur speeding along from the classical period to the modern period of Jewish but I wish u made a video detailing the 12 tribes the lands they occupied the symbols they identified with and individual quirks that set them apart from each other. More importantly how did this tribal structure impact ancient judean society to today.
    I’m of the tribe Levi on my fathers side ( surprisingly that hasn’t changed much in my family) and when I was younger and would go to Shul my dad would direct me to do certain action but they would never explain what it meant to be a Levi and the responsibilities it wasn’t until my first trip to Israel 5 years ago that I even learned that the levities are descended from Moses.

    • @Long-Ball-Larry
      @Long-Ball-Larry 2 года назад

      Please help me out here. Moses was a Levite (descendand of Levi, third son of Jacob and Leah) so were his cousins and siblings, like Aaron whose descendants are the Kohanim who naturally are also Levites. So how can all Levites be descendants from Moses alone?

  • @themacandcheeseorca1128
    @themacandcheeseorca1128 2 года назад +7

    I would like to thank UTJ and Shas for keeping Ottoman law intact for marriages and divorces. Israel should be kept in the 19th Century.

    • @kellygroen4254
      @kellygroen4254 2 года назад

      Well, I've been told that the ultra-Orthodox are indeed anti-Zionist.

    • @themacandcheeseorca1128
      @themacandcheeseorca1128 2 года назад

      @@kellygroen4254 Some are. But they compromise those values to halt change and get special funding.

    • @kellygroen4254
      @kellygroen4254 2 года назад

      @@themacandcheeseorca1128 Supporting 19th century Ottoman Empire marriage and divorce rules strikes me as the ultimate anti-Zionist move (even if Shas and UTJ now shill for the occupation as well.)

  • @reeddorger2655
    @reeddorger2655 Год назад

    25:50 Jon Bois reference ?

  • @stephenknizek2651
    @stephenknizek2651 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for the cat footage.

  • @zacharytrosch3406
    @zacharytrosch3406 2 года назад +1

    Totally off the subject of the material itself, whoever you got to do the read-over for Dr. Pinsker was fantastic.

    • @adrianblake8876
      @adrianblake8876 2 года назад

      I think it's Unpacked, who also have a youtube channel dedicated to jewish history...

  • @Eliqw
    @Eliqw 2 года назад +1

    No mention of the vilna gaon? Today's ultra-orthodox yerushalmi's are his cultural and spiritual descendants.

  • @kagetasan
    @kagetasan 2 года назад +3

    I sense a Dreyfus affair next time!

  • @problematic441
    @problematic441 2 года назад +3

    the only true zionisim

  • @spikethompson2000
    @spikethompson2000 2 года назад +2

    OOH BOY DREYFUS AFFAIR NEXT TIME!

  • @patrickkelmer6290
    @patrickkelmer6290 2 года назад +2

    1:27, ah, Israels national mammal

  • @yoavsnake
    @yoavsnake 2 года назад +5

    hearing "introducing western agricultural practices to the region" and im like _not again_

  • @kellygroen4254
    @kellygroen4254 2 года назад +9

    The criticism of Ahad Ha’am about the Jews mistreating the Arabs in Palestine really struck me. The more things change I guess...

    • @מ.מ-ה9ד
      @מ.מ-ה9ד 2 года назад +9

      I don't think you understood him very much...

  • @Hoheinohonryo
    @Hoheinohonryo 2 года назад +1

    intresting

  • @rbublitz3322
    @rbublitz3322 Год назад +1

    You didn't go back far enough. You neglected mention that the assyrians were first to remove the northern kingdom of Israel around 700 bc. Then nebuchadnezzar removed Judea in 586 bc

  • @derpasaurus_rex6919
    @derpasaurus_rex6919 2 года назад +5

    ZIONISM!
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @talink6867
      @talink6867 2 года назад

      indeed

    • @derpasaurus_rex6919
      @derpasaurus_rex6919 2 года назад +1

      @@talink6867 I've been waiting for a proper video on Zionism by Sam for almost a year, and it's just around the corner now.
      Damn it feels good.

  • @barakdan1858
    @barakdan1858 2 года назад +3

    Yay new dvar Torah

  • @modernmyth9050
    @modernmyth9050 2 года назад +3

    Over 100 countries? 🤔🤔🤔

  • @xDarkryder97
    @xDarkryder97 2 года назад +4

    Could all of this violence between Jewish settlers and Arabs been prevented?
    I unfortunately think, yes.
    Jewish fault in fucking up this relationship is unfortunately too big…
    But considering the emotional perspective of a individuals, who always have been spat on in the diaspora, I understand the precarious behavior and it’s source.

    • @slev6592
      @slev6592 2 года назад +6

      The Arabs are the ones who attacked the Jews.

    • @mew11two
      @mew11two 2 года назад +3

      I disagree

    • @samiabe8686
      @samiabe8686 Год назад +1

      ⁠​⁠@joaoribeiro5938 false in Ahad Ha’am’s own words “We who live abroad are accustomed to believing that the Arabs are all wild desert people who, like donkeys, neither see nor understand what is happening around them. But this is a grave mistake. The Arab, like all the Semites, is sharp minded and shrewd. All the townships of Syria and Eretz Yisrael are full of Arab merchants who know how to exploit the masses and keep track of everyone with whom they deal - the same as in Europe.”
      Also referring to the early settlers abuse of Arabs he wrote “They deal with the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, trespass unjustly, beat them shamefully for no sufficient reason, and even boast about their actions. There is no one to stop the flood and put an end to this despicable and dangerous tendency. Our brothers indeed were right when they said that the Arab only respects he who exhibits bravery and courage. But when these people feel that the law is on their rival's side and, even more so, if they are right to think their rival's actions are unjust and oppressive, then, even if they are silent and endlessly reserved, they keep their anger in their hearts. And these people will be revengeful like no other.”